Thursday, November 22nd 2007
AMD/ATI turns back on AGP users
For the past few months some of ATI's older AGP cards like the x800 and other second generation series cards, have been unable to run the latest Direct3D games. Users have noted problems in Hellgate London, Call of Duty 4, Gears of War, Need for Speed Pro Street, and Crysis(These problems often consist of not just minor artifacts, but D3D not even working!). These second generation series cards can not even pass Direct x diagnostics with the current drivers. Some say that those users on "old" graphics cards should upgrade and its simply their fault for having outdated technology. This Bias is contrary to what is actually going on, the x800 series cards are perfectly capable of running most of these games at medium to high settings especially Call of Duty 4 and Hellgate London. The Second and Third Generation ATI graphics cards are often referred to as minimum requirements for these new games, and yet they are incredibly unstable right now. And as being listed under AMD/ATI's supported products list, these cards should work with the latest drivers, but they don't. These problems started roughly with the 7.9 Catalyst release (Back on November 10th). Today ATI released its 7.11 Catalyst set of drivers and still has not provided a solution for these second generation AGP cards.
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Their are two methods to get around this problem.
The first and in my opinion best solution is Omega Drivers 7.10 Release. The omega drivers release is fully compatible with AGP.
According to Deluxe TNT over at Guru3d forums this method yields the following results:
Hellgate London: 100%
Call of duty 4: 100%
Gears of War: 100%
NFS pro street: High frame Stutter even with Frame Rates Above 50+ FPS
Crysis: Untested
The Second method is to install 7.7 Catalyst Drivers then copy the ati3duag.dll and ati3d1ag.dll(if u have this) from last working driver (7.8;7.x) in system32 to a temporary location. Next uninstall the 7.7 drivers and do a driver clean with driver cleaner pro. Then install 7.10 Catalyst drivers.Finally replace the 7.10 ati3duag.dll in safemode! with the one you copied to a temporary directory from 7.7 release.
See This solution here
According to Deluxe TNT over at Guru3d forums this method yields the following results:
Hellgate: Working but some low FPS
Call of duty 4: 100% ok
Gears of War: 100% ok
NFS Pro Street: untested.
Crysis: working but with bugs and terrible graphics
The best of luck to you who are toughing it out with x800 cards, hopefully AMD/ATI will help out the old AGP users soon. I hope this helps some of those select users with this major problem. Might I add a Personal Happy Turkey Day to those of you who live in the United States!
Source:
Guru 3d Forums
See Read More for solutions:
Their are two methods to get around this problem.
The first and in my opinion best solution is Omega Drivers 7.10 Release. The omega drivers release is fully compatible with AGP.
According to Deluxe TNT over at Guru3d forums this method yields the following results:
Hellgate London: 100%
Call of duty 4: 100%
Gears of War: 100%
NFS pro street: High frame Stutter even with Frame Rates Above 50+ FPS
Crysis: Untested
The Second method is to install 7.7 Catalyst Drivers then copy the ati3duag.dll and ati3d1ag.dll(if u have this) from last working driver (7.8;7.x) in system32 to a temporary location. Next uninstall the 7.7 drivers and do a driver clean with driver cleaner pro. Then install 7.10 Catalyst drivers.Finally replace the 7.10 ati3duag.dll in safemode! with the one you copied to a temporary directory from 7.7 release.
See This solution here
According to Deluxe TNT over at Guru3d forums this method yields the following results:
Hellgate: Working but some low FPS
Call of duty 4: 100% ok
Gears of War: 100% ok
NFS Pro Street: untested.
Crysis: working but with bugs and terrible graphics
The best of luck to you who are toughing it out with x800 cards, hopefully AMD/ATI will help out the old AGP users soon. I hope this helps some of those select users with this major problem. Might I add a Personal Happy Turkey Day to those of you who live in the United States!
63 Comments on AMD/ATI turns back on AGP users
The reason I am still on AGP is the fact I bought a X1950pro when I had a P4 system.
Its the way our economy works in general, this countries companies screwed up when they started importing everything and took out almost all industry. It's corporate greed for money that in the end tumbles itself.
By the way yes I have taken multiple advanced economics and business classes.
so if they have stopped supporting(drivers, software, etc.) agp, it has been less than a year.
I just don't think it's right to cut support that soon.
I think it's more of "this is as much as I have to spend right now and I want to play the latest games right now."
Bottom line is Intel and AMD have stopped making 478skt,939skt and lower.
So there will be no CPU UPGRADES to these boards so why go and by the latest AGP card for something which is going to bottleneck it badly?
If you can't crack 5K in 3Dmark06' with a X1950pro AGP then the CPU bottleneck is too much IMO.
I just picked up a Used Asus A8N32 SLI for 49.99 off Ebay. This way I won't be held hostage to AGP and can now go PCI E while keeping the rest of my components in check.
when the time is right and phenom has matured so probably summer for B3 revision that is when I do a complete overhaul while keeping the PCI E card i'm soon to buy.
I love my current board has served me well from 2005, but not being able to buy a highend cards and being stuck to midrange cards, which have a much lower resale value forced me to go PCI-E.
Low power too.
No too sure on GPU yet.
Either a eVGA 8800GTS 320 super overclock or a 8800GT.
The bios can't be weirder than the AV8 I'm currently using.
its either 8800GT or 3870 nothing less.