Tuesday, November 27th 2007

Blu-ray Disks Outsell HD-DVD Disks By 3-1 in Europe

The HD-format war stalemate seems to have been smashed to pieces. Thanks to the PlayStation3 shipping with a Blu-ray drive, several million gamers have a Blu-ray player already attached to their HDTV, and are not bothered to buy an HD-DVD player. Now that several million gamers have a Blu-ray player, they're buying Blu-ray movies to watch. Of 1,369,863 HD movies sold last month, a relatively paltry 369,863 of them were HD-DVD. What's more, if Blu-ray sales figures included actual Blu-ray games sold, then there would have been more than 21 million Blu-ray disks sold. The main movie that attributed to such successful Blu-ray sales was the extremely awesome movie "300", which was a very graphic portrayal of the battle of Thermopylae.Source: Reg Hardware
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56 Comments on Blu-ray Disks Outsell HD-DVD Disks By 3-1 in Europe

#1
tigger
I'm the only one
Looks like blue ray might win then.300 is a great film,the 300 were a suicide squad if you didnt know.
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#2
Xaser04
Hopefully I will be picking up planet Earth on blu-ray shortly. It was epic when it was on TV. Should be even better in hi-def.
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#3
Ravenas
Blu-ray is the better player; it would be sad to see the better player loose (that just hurts us as consumers). Grats Sony.
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#4
kwchang007
Hopefully this means the end of all this crap between two formats. And hopefully after Christmas HD-DVD will back down if Blu-ray keeps selling this well.
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#5
Ravenas
by: kwchang007
Hopefully this means the end of all this crap between two formats. And hopefully after Christmas HD-DVD will back down if Blu-ray keeps selling this well.
I wouldn't be surprised if either of them never died lol...
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kwchang007
by: Ravenas
I wouldn't be surprised if either of them never died lol...
How much would that suck.
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#7
Ravenas
by: kwchang007
How much would that suck.
:laugh:

Just as much as having to decide wether to get a PC, a Xbox 360, a PS3, or a Wii (or any other gaming format) for your gaming needs.

:toast:
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#8
F-22
Doesn't bother me much. I think buying movies is a waste anyway. Most of my BD, HD DVDs, I've only watched one time since I bought them. Netflix FTW!
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#9
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
Wont matter to me who wins, stays or goes. So long as their respective burners and media drop down to affordable prices (think roughly 50 bucks higher than DVD burners with LS today and about 5 dollars more than cake boxes of DVD media today.)
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#10
EastCoasthandle
That article is a bit misleading, its not on all HDM movies but the most popular (this is why they are stating 300). Other then that it's a complete stalemate (as reported before). Therefore, it's safe to say that the majority of PS3 solds are used as gaming machines.
Here let me prove it (per the article, which I think isn't 100% accurate):

97,332 HD DVD players sold in Europe, 369,863 movies were sold. That's an attach rate of 3.8
1,666,667 Blu-ray players sold in Europe, 1mill movies were sold. That's an attach rate of 0.59

What does that mean? For every HD sold they are buying at least 3 to 4 movies for it. I believe I mentioned something similar to this in another thread. For every PS3 sold 1 out of every 3.5 PS3 owners will buy buy 1 BR movie (this is not an accurate depiction of buying trend only an explanation in the gap between players and movies sold). This trend has been going on since BR entered the market and there is no sign of it changing at all. In other words 1,666,667 BR players sold (PS3), 1mill movies were sold. That leaves 666,667 movies that wasn't sold.
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#11
hacker111
sales are up sounds very interesting...and it's a surprise that the blue rays are out selling the HD DVDS...good for sony.
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#12
lemonadesoda
Lies, damn lies and zek statistics.

This type of marketing spin should be punishable by torture.
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#13
effmaster
You can clearly see the bias in Zek's article. Normally its hard to see the bias in an article but this one is easier to see than others.
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#14
Ravenas
Some people can't accept the facts. :laugh:
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#15
effmaster
And lets not forget the fact that its complete Bullshit that PS3 owners have bought on average 12 PS3 games per PS3 console so this article is not truthful in the least bit except for the fact that the attachement rate for HD DVD is higher than Blu Ray when it comes to movies sold per player.
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#16
EastCoasthandle
I don't think it's fair to blame Zek he's only reporting the news not writing it.
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#17
effmaster
by: EastCoasthandle
I don't think it's fair to blame Zek he's only reporting the news not writing it.
Well no offense to Zek about what I said BUT PERSONALLY I don't want to have a really biased article in the news section does that seem any clearer now?
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#18
EastCoasthandle
by: effmaster
Well no offense to Zek about what I said BUT PERSONALLY I don't want to have a really biased article in the news section does that seem any clearer now?
If an issue like this is so offensive to you (and the tone in your posts show it) it's better to just not read/respond to it. You run the risk of take your frustration out on the wrong person(s).
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#19
effmaster
by: EastCoasthandle
If an issue like this is so offensive to you (and the tone in your posts show it) it's better to just not read/respond to it. You run the risk of take your frustration out on the wrong person(s).
Im sorry if my posts sounded like I was attacking Zek I wasnt really tryiong to attack him don't ask me why, Im really tired right now. I was really just refferring to the source as I really don't think that the person who made that article was on a neutral side rather I think that he is on more of a blu side. Again sorry if I was attacking you Zek Im sorry
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#20
Davidelmo
And yet HD sales as a total pale in comparison to DVD

Seriously, no-one in the UK cares at all. For the vast majority of people, watching a DVD is just fine on their ~40 inch TV. The difference between DVD and HD=DVD/BluRay just isn't huge enough to warrant spending £600 on a BluRay player.

I think neither format will "win." Both will continue to lag behind ordinary DVD sales until they are both cheap enough to co-exist.
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by: Davidelmo
The difference between DVD and HD=DVD/BluRay just isn't huge enough to warrant spending £600 on a BluRay player.
The difference is like night and day!

As for this stupid format feud, I hope HD-DVD wins, it's the better format and will be best for the consumer over time... Anything with a Sony design arrives tarnished.:wtf:
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#22
Kreij
Senior Monkey Moderator
Zek !!!

Where is your journalistic integrity?
What ever happened to verifying sources?
How can you reprint these manipulated statistics?

Off to your room and no moonpies for a month ! :D
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#23
Davidelmo
by: v-zero
The difference is like night and day!
No it isn't!

Not compared to the difference between VHS and DVD.
Not at "across the room" distance on a 30 to 40 inch TV either


When considering DVD vs VHS, don't forget the improved functionality. You don't have to fast forward or rewind. You can skip chapters, not wear out the tape, etc etc etc. Those were all selling points of DVD vs VHS.

Where is the super selling point of any HD format? It's basically a DVD with better quality. That difference is not worth £600. It's not even worth £200 for the cheapest HD DVD player.

Maybe when TVs larger than 40 inches become more common will the demand for HD increase.

My parents were in a shop and could barely tell the difference when standing right in front of the TV. It was a proper demonstration with two TV's right next to each other. One playing a DVD and the other playing an HD DVD.

If ANY HD format wants to win it will have to get ordinary people like my parents buying a HD DVD player. At the moment it is younger, more technological people who are slightly interested, but the majority of the market and the measure of success is based on getting HD formats into everyday homes. That is a LONG way off IMO.
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#24
zekrahminator
McLovin
by: tigger69
Looks like blue ray might win then.300 is a great film,the 300 were a suicide squad if you didnt know.
Aw man you ruined the ending :(

:roll:.
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#25
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
from the article...
The figures were published by the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) but produced by independent market watcher GfK. The two numbers don't quite synchronise: the total number of discs purchased are sales to date, but the percentage comes from disc sales since this time last year. But though Blu-ray Discs have been technically on sale longer than that, the year-to-date figure almost certainly so far outweighs disc sales up the the end of 4 November 2006 that the percentage isn't likely to be that far out.

From which we can conclude that around 1,369,863 high-definition discs have been purchased in the last 12 months, of which 369,863 were HD DVDs, less than a third of the total.
so unless you guys can find another independent study with different numbers you pretty much have to assume these are numbers accurate.

on another note, ive noticed just about every retailer gives equal space to HD DVD and blu-ray.
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