Hmmm. price is a bit much for the performance, $180-$200 USD would be better.

Yep that's true.
How do they expect people to buy it if it's at the price range of 3870? Unreasonable price.

rougalYep that's true.
How do they expect people to buy it if it's at the price range of 3870? Unreasonable price.

Is it not as quick as the 3870? I think it might be, but I agree it's a bit high considering 8800GT prices are starting to settle. Also bear in mind this is an overclocked edition so is likely to be more expensive than reference cards.

Tatty_OneIs it not as quick as the 3870? I think it might be

It's not...

Tatty_OneIs it not as quick as the 3870? I think it might be, but I agree it's a bit high considering 8800GT prices are starting to settle. Also bear in mind this is an overclocked edition so is likely to be more expensive than reference cards.

The price seems ok if the current exchange rate to sterling is used (around 1.31 £/€)

That puts it at about £120 which seems plausible. Thats smack in the middle of the 3850 and 3870. I would assume performance is around there as well.

v-zeroIt's not...

Really? Strange, this card is supposed to be marginally faster than the 9600GT which in the limited info available (some here) suggested that beat the 3870 in 2 out of 3 game tests. TBH, it's to early to know for real, the 9600GT appears to be aimed at the 3850 market.....not sure of the point of the 8800GS apart from getting rid of some old substandard parts although some people are saying that the GS will be a "limited edition".

hm if the price is true ill just get a 8800gt.

160 euros are ~$238 with current exchange, that doesn't mean they will cost $238. When 8800GT was about 250 euros, it was about $300 in US (250 euros = 371USD with current exchange). That is the way they price them here. Yeah it sucks. HD3850 is about 150 euros here and HD3870 around 230. If the same relation between prices applies this time, and nothing points otherwise wil happen, as it's been always the same, 8800GS will be priced below $200 for sure.

en.expreview.com//?p=160

Here you can see the performance compared to 8800gt and they say the price could end up at $165 (384MB) and $204 (768MB). To my knowledge this is close in price to the HD3850 and is clearly faster. More memory too, appeling for those who think 256 (corrected) is not enough... All in all, I think it's a nice addition, good for competition.

hope that's thecase

So, this being a dumbed down G80 core, that would make it slower than the 3870, and most likely the 3850, for the same amount of money.... Im not too sure about Nvidia's new tactic...

Expreview was right again:

www.xfxforce.com/web/company/viewNews.jspa;jsessionid=aA_dEKiXoUpdbuju-D?newsId=1882229&year=0

seems to be a very reliable source for upcoming hardware. :)

Urbklr911So, this being a dumbed down G80 core, that would make it slower than the 3870, and most likely the 3850, for the same amount of money.... Im not too sure about Nvidia's new tactic...

Its based on the G92 core from the 8800GT albeit with only 96 shaders. (One can assume that these are simply 8800GT cores that have stream processors that arn't functional and so are binned, instead of getting rid of them nvidia are doing the intelligent thing and selilng them as a lower end product).

Judging by Expreviews quick review the GS is roughly 25% slower than the GT which puts it right in line between the HD3850 and HD3870.

As long as the price is right on launch these could steal a few sales away from the ATI cards.

this heatsync sucks major butt

well it appears to be copper fins and slimline. It looks like an accelero S1 would fit as well :)

sum of us nun rich folks can just barely buy a card much less a cooler ...

seriously, people need perspective here. this card should be fairly cheap, its single slot, should run cool, 384MB of ram (vs 256) and overall not a bad card.

That USD $238 is for this pre-OC alpha dog edition, the normal variant could be well under $200 :D

i wonder how much fro teh 768 version ...

Xaser04Its based on the G92 core from the 8800GT albeit with only 96 shaders. (One can assume that these are simply 8800GT cores that have stream processors that arn't functional and so are binned, instead of getting rid of them nvidia are doing the intelligent thing and selilng them as a lower end product).

Umm, G92 is 256Bit?....is this 256Bit?? How is it getting 384MB if it is??

Im reading in multiple places, that this is 192Bit, can it still be a G92, or a binned G80??

its 192

It has a 192bit memory interface.

Well, it's good to see XFX return to its iconic non-reference PCB+cooler design.

Urbklr911Umm, G92 is 256Bit?....is this 256Bit?? How is it getting 384MB if it is??

The memory interface is tied into the ROPs on the card.

The GT and GTS (256bit) have 16 rops (16 x 16* is 256)
The GS (192bit) has 12 rops (12 x 16* is 192)
The GTX (384bit) has 24 rops (24 x 16* is 384)

* This refers to the fact they are 16bit chips IIRC.

The memory amount is a multiple of the memory interface (In this case 2 x so 192bit - 384mb)

Just because its G92 does not mean it is limited to a single memory interface. G92 is nothing more than a die shrunk G80 anyway (albeit with the video processor from G84/86)

Xaser04The memory interface is tied into the ROPs on the card.

The GT and GTS (256bit) have 16 rops (16 x 16* is 256)
The GS (192bit) has 12 rops (12 x 16* is 192)
The GTX (384bit) has 24 rops (24 x 16* is 384)

* This refers to the fact they are 16bit chips IIRC.

The memory amount is a multiple of the memory interface (In this case 2 x so 192bit - 384mb)

Just because its G92 does not mean it is limited to a single memory interface. G92 is nothing more than a die shrunk G80 anyway (albeit with the video processor from G84/86)

Okay, thanks:)

Still, it probably wont have near the performance of a 256Bit card. So, 38xx FTW:p

Bought id, dissapionted

I recently purchased this card and am not really satisfied. Ok, the card seems to perform well but it's fan makes more noise than my vacuum cleaner! Even when it has no hard work to do. For a friend I've put a HD3850 in his machine, but that one you can hardly hear. Now I'm going to try to get me money back :(

Could try an after market cooler. I just got my XFX 8800GS today and put a Zalman VF900-CU on it and now I can adjust the fan, and can hardly hear it. :)