Sunday, February 17th 2008

Dell Intros AMD Triple-Core Phenom OptiPlex Computers Next Week

TG Daily reports that Dell has developed a new line of AMD-based machines for businesses under the OptiPlex brand. Scheduled for a global launch next week on February 19th, these new computers will be named OptiPlex 740 and 740 Enhanced. The OptiPlex 740 will come with either a single or a dual-core Athlon 64 and GeForce 6150LE graphics/chipset combinations while the Enhanced version will utilize triple-core and quad-core Phenom processors mounted on a GeForce 6150LE/nForce 430 motherboard with Quadro NVS 210S graphics.

Source: TG Daily
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25 Comments on Dell Intros AMD Triple-Core Phenom OptiPlex Computers Next Week

#1
AphexDreamer
Wait wasn't there another thread saying Dell is droping AMD? :confused:
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#3
malware
Read again:
http://www.techpowerup.com/?52003
Dell recently announced that they're discontinuing almost all AMD-based Dell computers. The few ones that are left cannot be purchased online, and are only found in stores like Best Buy and Circuit City.
not all.
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#4
jpierce55
by: AphexDreamer
Wait wasn't there another thread saying Dell is droping AMD? :confused:
for online sales only
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#6
erocker
I wonder if these chips are going to have the new steppings.
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#7
happita
by: erocker
I wonder if these chips are going to have the new steppings.
If it does, then these will have great value to the consumer.
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#8
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
they wont be the new stepping dell probably got a ton of B2 chips cheap because AMD cant sell them anywhere else.
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#9

3Cores?
I don't sea why is this good for us, but probably it's good for AMD for the wrong Quads with a defect core, they will sell it!

Get a cheap Quad!
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#10
KieranD
whats with 3 core cpu anyway its not actual 3 cores in the chip its 4 cores but only 3 working so its just like crappy 4 cores really
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#11
trog100
making 4 cores and killing 2 to sell cheaper aint a deal different than intel making 2 core then sticking a pair together to sell dearer..

its all about filling market slots with the minimum number of base products.. given time i recon there will be a single core phenom right at the bottom..

trog
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#12
panchoman
Sold my stars!
apparently the intel funds to dell got cut a little shirt and dell is selling amd again.
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#13
brian.ca
by: kieran_fletch
whats with 3 core cpu anyway its not actual 3 cores in the chip its 4 cores but only 3 working so its just like crappy 4 cores really
If it runs faster than a dual core (but not as fast as a quad), and costs just a bit more than a dual (but not as much as a quad) does it REALLY matter what's on the actual chip? How they perform remains to be seen but if AMD hypothetically sells a slower clocked triple core for $400 that works as well as an Intel dual cire OC'd to a higher clock that costs $600 will the presence of that one disabled core that does nothing but sit there really turn you off that much that you would opt to pay the extra $200?

I will never get why some people are so hung up on that and keep thinking of this as a quad. If you want a quad then buy one... if you can't afford the premium of that then buy what ever gives you the best bang for your buck within your budget. If that ends up being a triple core than who really cares, just so long as you're getting a good deal.
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#14
kenkickr
I like the idea that they are trying to sell their defunct quads because I hope and pray they will be at a good price point to compete with intel and give a little boost of performance. Also I think this is a heck of a "green" idea by AMD because they are not just tossing a bunch of broken quads into the trash but instead selling them as tri's, dual's, or whatever down the line; in turn cutting down production costs.
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#15
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
by: kenkickr
I like the idea that they are trying to sell their defunct quads because I hope and pray they will be at a good price point to compete with intel and give a little boost of performance. Also I think this is a heck of a "green" idea by AMD because they are not just tossing a bunch of broken quads into the trash but instead selling them as tri's, dual's, or whatever down the line; in turn cutting down production costs.
intel does the same thing what do you think all of the conroe-L celerons are?
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#16
xfire
I read that these arent affected by TLB since there is no L-3.
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#17
aximbigfan
Mmmm....

Toms hardware tried a triple core setup once. It didn't work very well...

Chris
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#18
Scrizz
wth they're still selling P4's?!!
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#19
suraswami
Whatever! Screw Dell. They make sucky pcs/laptops. As long as IBM, Hp, Gateway and Acer supports them AMD will do good.
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#20
kenkickr
by: cdawall
intel does the same thing what do you think all of the conroe-L celerons are?
Ok, so what's your point? Semprons came from Athlon XP and Athlon 64 processors and were not that bad but celerons for some reason whatever they come from are cut down so bad that I wouldn't even wish a internet only PC to use them because 2 tasks kill it!! Now that they have dual core celeys you might be able to have 4 internet windows open!! LOL!
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#21
eidairaman1
by: suraswami
Whatever! Screw Dell. They make sucky pcs/laptops. As long as IBM, Hp, Gateway and Acer supports them AMD will do good.
Whats wrong with Dell? They Make pretty good machines- once you wipe the drive and fresh install. the XPS 9100 Laptop i have runs pretty good for being 4-5 year old part.
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#22
candle_86
by: moto666
3Cores?
I don't sea why is this good for us, but probably it's good for AMD for the wrong Quads with a defect core, they will sell it!

Get a cheap Quad!
actully its great, AMD plans to price these in the sub 150 market, where dual core is, and with multi threading being the future to be honest id rather have 3 cores over 2 in todays world. Its a perfect spot really and will for Intel to counter by either dropping prices on there quad cores or making a tri core of there own.
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#23
candle_86
by: kenkickr
Ok, so what's your point? Semprons came from Athlon XP and Athlon 64 processors and were not that bad but celerons for some reason whatever they come from are cut down so bad that I wouldn't even wish a internet only PC to use them because 2 tasks kill it!! Now that they have dual core celeys you might be able to have 4 internet windows open!! LOL!
i dunno i had a Celly 300A @ 450 it was freakin amazing and could outscore a P2 450 in most apps thanks to its one die L2.
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#24
asb2106
I thought these new Tri-Core procs were true 3 cores processors, and not a quad with a disabled core.

I heard they slowed down progress on the higher multi quad phenoms to make these, and I thought they were a true tri-core, am I wrong?
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#25
Silverel
by: asb2106
I thought these new Tri-Core procs were true 3 cores processors, and not a quad with a disabled core.

I heard they slowed down progress on the higher multi quad phenoms to make these, and I thought they were a true tri-core, am I wrong?
Nope, that's never been a plan for the x3's. They're hoping for better speed bins by cycling through quads and disabling the slowest core or using quads with 1 broken core as a x3. If demand is high for these we might see something along the lines of a true tri-core, but it would likely be composed of a quad core base, with only 3 cores installed. I think AMD is hoping for demand to be just right, that they can continuously produce quads, and sell off the weaker/broken ones as x3's and new-gen x2's.

It really makes a lot of sense, and it's absolutely no different than what both Intel and AMD have been doing for years. A new architecture comes out and you make as many as you can. Find the maximum speed, and bin them at different steps. Got an X2 with a busted core? Sell it as a sempron! Got a C2D with a borked core? Sell it as a Celeron! It's only as green as they've been all along. Broken chips get sold one way or another, now AMD can call it an advantage that their architecture is designed as such that there's another level they can sell on. Intel isn't going to pursue it, they'll just adjust prices on C2D's to match performance with AMD.

Hate on tri-cores if you want, but it's a standard practice. It's done by both companies, and it's been going on since the dawn of time.
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