yikes...you'd be stupid not to just get the 9800GX2

nflesher87yikes...you'd be stupid not to just get the 9800GX2

especially when the 9800gx2 is as low as 509.99 w/free shipping

nflesher87yikes...you'd be stupid not to just get the 9800GX2

Unless the card is $350 on this side of the pond, and your on a budget (but if your looking at this and a GX2, probably not:)) I want to see some more reviews of this thing first.

fear the frog :toast:

Well Europe probably has higher taxes than the US, so take off perhaps $50 or so for that I'd guess.

Well the 9800GTX is outperforming the 9800GX2 for the most part right now...

its the same G92 core as the 512 GTS, just a few more rops, and a higher shader, I would just stick to a GTS and OC alittle.

I was hoping they were gonna go to a new core design for the 9000 series. Espesially after naming the G92 GTS a 8000 series.

Standard pre-release price gouging. I wouldn't waste my money when the MSRP is set at $350. Chances are you can order one the day they are released for $350. They are just trying to play on the hype of buying a pre-release product and charging more.

asb2106its the same G92 core as the 512 GTS, just a few more rops, and a higher shader, I would just stick to a GTS and OC alittle.

I was hoping they were gonna go to a new core design for the 9000 series. Espesially after naming the G92 GTS a 8000 series.

How many times does this argument need to be brought up? ATi upped their series name, so nVidia did the same to match, there was no major redesign on either side.

newtekie1Standard pre-release price gouging. I wouldn't waste my money when the MSRP is set at $350. Chances are you can order one the day they are released for $350. They are just trying to play on the hype of buying a pre-release product and charging more.



How many times does this argument need to be brought up? ATi upped their series name, so nVidia did the same to match, there was no major redesign on either side.

ATI had a huge redesign, they dropped to a 55nm core size, odd that you dont see that as a big change.

and its fine that they went to the 9000 series for the g92, but why couldnt they take the g92 GTS up to a 9000 then. It doesnt make sense.

asb2106ATI had a huge redesign, they dropped to a 55nm core size, odd that you dont see that as a big change.

and its fine that they went to the 9000 series for the g92, but why couldnt they take the g92 GTS up to a 9000 then. It doesnt make sense.

You call a die shrink a huge redesign? I don't. And it has never warranted a naming scheme change in the past. Die shrinks aren't big changes, and aren't huge redesigns.

Why rename a product that is already on the market? It doesn't make sense to do that, unless you are ATi of course. The simple fact is that nVidia had already released the G92 in the form of the 8800GT and already announce the 8800GTS and was read to release it when ATi suddendly decide to move on to the next series. It was a rather confusing time, with one company planning to stay in the same series and another moving on.

Personally I don't think either should have moved onto the next naming series. The RV670 cards should have been the 2950 series, and the G92 cards should have been the 8900 series. That is what has happened in the past, and it worked.

However, ATi knew they were behind, and decided that marketting an entirely new series would make them seem better. When in reality it was just a die shrink.

At least nVidia reworked their core for the new series.

newtekie1Personally I don't think either should have moved onto the next naming series. The RV670 cards should have been the 2950 series, and the G92 cards should have been the 8900 series. That is what has happened in the past, and it worked.

However, ATi knew they were behind, and decided that marketting an entirely new series would make them seem better. When in reality it was just a die shrink.

At least nVidia reworked their core a little for the new series.

Ok, i agree here. ATI's die shrink was a huge step for them and the cards were much better for it. They were also trying to get away from the failure that was the 2900. The price was way to high and so were the temps.

I think both companies should have stuck with the level they were at and moved up at the next step. The only thing for me is that they have G92's that are 8000's and g92's that are 9000's now. They never made a 55nm 2000 series. Thats what Im getting at

Regardless, these new GTX's should be pretty nice. I was thinking they were gonna make this change awhile back when they did the GTS. And like you said, I would wait for the release day, as prices should set at MSRP pretty quickly

newtekie1blah blah blah

acctualy it wasnt just a die shrink,they did some tweaking to the core as well check the transistor count for proof as well as the video decoding suport.

wasnt changes that warrented a model change,BUT they needed to do it to make it clear this wasnt the same card as the 2900.

nvidia have used the same core in 8800 and 9600/9800 cards now, utterly stupid, only an nvidiot wouldnt see how stupid this is, they could have just called the card the 9 seirse from the start BUT then they wouldnt have been able to use 9800gx2/gtx for their top cards that came out months after the 8800gt.......

nvidia sucks, i got an 8800gt, i have to hack the new drivers to get them to work on the 8800gt dispite it having the same core as the 9600/9800 cards, because nvidia is fucking over anybody who dosnt got a 9 seirse......screw them......

That looks to be pretty much identical to the gts 512 with the exception of the memory clock, which is about twice that of the aforementioned. As long as the price is right, pretty solid ($420 seems a little much....).

Crazy stupid. I was hoping with this Uber card of theirs that they would increase something. Still 128 stream processors. Time to crank those up to 156 or so.