Saturday, June 14 2008
Latest report from DigiTimes brings us a word of new Core 2 Quad Q8000 series processors.

Intel is planning to launch a Core 2 Quad Q8000 CPU series, offering entry-level prices to counter AMD's triple-core CPUs in the mainstream market, according to sources at motherboard makers. Intel will launch the Core 2 Quad Q8200 in the third quarter this year, supporting FSB up to 1333MHz, L2 cache of 4MB and a core frequency of 2.33GHz. Pricing will be set around US$203 in thousand-unit quantities. In order to separate the Q8000 series from Intel's Q9000 CPU family, the Q8000 CPU series will not support Intel's VT and TXT technology.
Source: DigiTimes
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by Wile E (June 15th - 11:05 AM) - Reply
by: Mussels
i was quoting you to agree, rather than re-quote Weer
Ah, I see. Sorry then. lol.
by btarunr (June 15th - 11:24 AM) - Reply
Now for the bigger question: Is this a 65nm Kentsfield with 2+2 MB L2 ?
by DaedalusHelios (June 15th - 11:29 AM) - Reply
The Q8200 will reach higher OC and use lower voltage/power consumption but not by much over the G0 (Q6600)

But It will be a case of whichever is priced better of course. Lets say Q6600's go for $190 new. Then I wouldn't pay more than $200 for a new Q8200. The prices would be relative to each other as to which would be a better chip to get.

Its sad Intel has to create its own competition nowadays in the quad market. :(
by Mussels (June 15th - 12:15 PM) - Reply
the 8200 might reach higher clocks, but the performance would be held back due to the cache and low ass multiplier.
by btarunr (June 15th - 12:22 PM) - Reply
That's right. A thread cannot access more than 2 MB of L2 cache at a given time.
by Mussels (June 15th - 12:25 PM) - Reply
by: btarunr
That's right. A thread cannot access more than 2 MB of L2 cache at a given time.
that actually goes into a funny thing i did once in regards to kentsfield design.

Kentsfield is 2 dual core CPU's with 4MB cache each.

so cores 0 + 1 share 4MB while cores 2 + 3 share 4MB.

Back when i was using some video encoding program that only supported dual cores, i actually realised that locking the CPU to use cores 1 and 2, would make it work as if it was an 8MB dual core - each thread had 4MB of cache each (instead of fighting over 4MB total)

totally random info, but it worked and sped the encoding up.
by kyle2020 (June 15th - 12:29 PM) - Reply
its fantastic that they are considering budget builders, i really like that - but the Q6600 is almost the same price, so i dont really see the point?
by btarunr (June 15th - 12:39 PM) - Reply
Awww look where the "similar threads" link takes me. Fascinating history.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=4356
by Mussels (June 15th - 12:42 PM) - Reply
lol that thread was as popular as a pentium D at a greenpeace summit.
by btarunr (June 15th - 12:45 PM) - Reply
by: Mussels
lol that thread was as popular as a pentium D at a greenpeace summit.
We'll now see AMD do that, with its Phenom X4 9950 that eats 140W "nom nom nom... eating ur megawhats!".
by Mussels (June 15th - 1:03 PM) - Reply
by: btarunr
We'll now see AMD do that, with its Phenom X4 9950 that eats 140W "nom nom nom... eating ur megawhats!".
forget thermal grease, lets just use some BBq sauce. For a heatsink, a frypan...


The way i see it, with todays 'green' mindset (and increasing electrical bills for the non greens) any CPU over 100W stock, is just ridiculous.
by Temps_Riising (June 16th - 2:01 PM) - Reply
by: cdawall
wonder if these will be like the e7200s :D 4ghz quads on air sounds good to me
Not with a 7x multi are you gonna get 4gig :eek: A quad running at 572mhz FSB would be something else, thing is most modern boards cant hit 500FSB on a 45nm quad so prob the best yer gonna see is 3.4 - 3.5gig.....possibly only 3.3gig.
by mrhuggles (June 16th - 2:31 PM) - Reply
by: Mussels
the 8200 might reach higher clocks, but the performance would be held back due to the cache and low ass multiplier.
with your northbridge? low multiplier could potentialy be a good thing
by tkpenalty (June 16th - 2:52 PM) - Reply
by: Mussels
lol that thread was as popular as a pentium D at a greenpeace summit.
ROFL. That has been sigged :p.


Ocing these chips won't be this easy, the obvious inferior manufacturing process (evident by lower clocks, higher temps etc) will certainly spoil and prevent most of the Q8200s from being able to hit 4GHz...
by Megasty (June 16th - 3:07 PM) - Reply
by: Temps_Riising
Not with a 7x multi are you gonna get 4gig :eek: A quad running at 572mhz FSB would be something else, thing is most modern boards cant hit 500FSB on a 45nm quad so prob the best yer gonna see is 3.4 - 3.5gig.....possibly only 3.3gig.
I don't see this reaching 3.2 even on a good board. You'll be baking the thing even at that speed. A Q8200 getting 3.15 @ 450 is just about the same as a Q6600 doing 4.05 @ 450. All 3 of my Q6600s can do 4Ghz so I guess I got the good part of 3 different batches :p
by jydie (June 16th - 3:38 PM) - Reply
That price is still to high for me, but it is nice to see the prices inching down. :)
by Mussels (June 16th - 4:37 PM) - Reply
by: mrhuggles
with your northbridge? low multiplier could potentialy be a good thing
my mobo only reaches 430FSB with 65nm chips, and reports of 550 or so with 45nm. but that 550 would require 2 sticks of ram, running at 1.1Ghz - no thanks, i like my 4GB.

higher multis are always a better choice, all things else equal.
by niko084 (June 16th - 5:16 PM) - Reply
by: Mussels
lower clocks, lower multiplier, lower cache (q6600 is 8MB) higher stock FSB (1333 vs 1066)

also
No virtualisation support.


Next to nothing even supports VT from intel to start with.

As for the chip compared to a Q6600, it doesn't much matter the Q6600 is a few years old and soon wont be available, they are offering a new chip for a mass market of new product, in which case it will compete fairly well, but I would say better against the Phenom Quads then the Tri's.
by Mussels (June 17th - 12:41 AM) - Reply
by: niko084
Next to nothing even supports VT from intel to start with.

all conroes and kentsfields do. i'm sure the E8xx0 series does as well. its only the budget ones that dont... i need it, as i run virtual systems a lot.
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