Thursday, June 19th 2008

NVIDIA Gently Intros GeForce 9800 GTX+

AMD today took a major point for the red team by positioning its brand new ATI Radeon HD 4850 cards between NVIDIA's GeForce 9 series and GTX 200 series cards. The all new HD 4850 cards beat NVIDIA's GeForce 9800 GTX while also maintaining the very reasonable MSRP of $199. Currently NVIDIA has no card that can compete in this category, but that's eventually going to change in mid-July, when the company will announce a new mid-range video card dubbed GeForce 9800 GTX+. The card will be idential to GeForce 9800 GTX from the outside, but from the "inside" it will use a smaller and more efficient 55 nanometer GPU with increased default clock/shader speeds: from 675MHz to 738MHz and from 1688MHz to 1836MHz respectively. Memory speeds for this card will be dropped slightly to 1GHz (1100MHz for GeForce 9800 GTX). Other than that the card is virtually the same as GeForce 9800 GTX, the three-way SLI support also remains untouched. NVIDIA expects to start offering GeForce 9800 GTX+ with a MSRP of $229. The company also plans to drop the price of the 65nm GeForce 9800 GTX to $199.

First card is Leadtek 9800GTX, second one is GeForce 9800 GTX+

Source: bit-tech.net
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137 Comments on NVIDIA Gently Intros GeForce 9800 GTX+

#1
newconroer
And this goes to show how flexible Nvidia can be due to ATi trailing behind for a considerable amount of time.

They've got a handful of cards, new and old that they can re-hash, tweak, optimizie etc. throw them in the market at whatever price point to compete against ATi, while they continue to hold flagship crowns.

I had a feeling this was going to happen.
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#2
CrAsHnBuRnXp
Looks like I know what my next card is going to be.
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#4
Dark_Webster
But still... is it worth it? With the new HD4850's ??
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#5
panchoman
Sold my stars!
saw this one coming.. the new 4 series would probably raise a red flag at nvidia and being a bigger company with more resources, they'd probably find a way to quickly put down ati and still hold the crown, and this is it, a die shrink and clock up..
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#6
ElWapo973
Everything about this card sounds good except for one thing. Why lower the memory speed on this card? It's not like the original 9800GTX had too much bandwidth to begin with(or any G92 based card for that matter). :ohwell: If any thing they should be throwing in the higher rated GDDR3 chips running in the GTX 280 as the additional bandwidth would go hand in hand in helping this card at higher resolutions/settings. I am a bit confused on that subject. Oh well, the way things are looking at the moment the next card to find it's way in my rig will probably be an HD 4870. :rockout:
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#7
calvary1980
the fabrication will be smaller which means you can fit more transistors on each chip, the temp will also be a little better. they already planned this for the 9800GT.

- Christine
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NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+ GPU @ 55nm


NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX GPU @ 65nm

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Daamn u nvidia, just when i had my heart set on amd , u bring this out with all the physx, cuda capabilities that i may use for my video encoding.
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#10
Aeon19
by: wolf2009
Daamn u nvidia, just when i had my heart set on amd , u bring this out with all the physx, cuda capabilities that i may use for my video encoding.
But physx will be supported by drivers...so everyone who have 8800 series could use physx...

Isn't it?? :wtf::confused::wtf:
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by: Aeon19
But physx will be supported by drivers...so everyone who have 8800 series could use physx...

Isn't it?? :wtf::confused::wtf:
g92 and above .

wat i meant was i wanted a powerful card than 9600gt , and i was about to go amd, but now nvidia comes in cheaper unless ati is significantly better .
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#12
ShinyG
This card proves that the 4850 hit the spot! We now have competiton again, my friends :) Direct competition: price AND performance! Wohooo!
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#13
farlex85
Now if AMD can do the same on the processor front, then we will be rolling.........
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#14
panchoman
Sold my stars!
by: wolf2009
g92 and above .

wat i meant was i wanted a powerful card than 9600gt , and i was about to go amd, but now nvidia comes in cheaper unless ati is significantly better .
isn't it also supported by the G80 cores?
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#15
ShadowFold
Ok now im confused.. idk if I should get this or the 4850 for 1440x900..
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#16
farlex85
by: ShadowFold
Ok now im confused.. idk if I should get this or the 4850 for 1440x900..
4850 is out now. :laugh: Of course, better to wait for official comparisons then make the decision. I think the 4850 looks nice, however w/ this die shrink these things will likely have some very good oc capabilities, possibly enough so to make them decently faster than the 4850.
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#17
overclocker!
:laugh::laugh: what next? 9800gtx Rambo! :laugh::laugh:

Go Go ATI Go Go!!!!!!
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#18
newtekie1
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Hmmm...now I don't know what to do. I was all set to switch to an Intel Motherboard and ATi graphics cards, but now that the 9800GTX is dropping to $199 I am really tempted to just buy another one of those for SLI...:banghead:
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#19
Psychoholic
So, i wonder if there will be a "miracle driver" i'm using the 177.35's on my 9800gtx and i love them, but i wouldnt complain for a little more performance of course.

I wonder what kind of clocks it will do.. I have mine at 800/2000/2400 (core shader mem) 24/7 clocks, and 850/2100/2480 for benching.


I'm guessing you could sli one of those with one of the current 9800gtx's?
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#20
Urbklr
Yes, but does this take AA like the 4850 does?
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#21
yogurt_21
by: calvary1980
much more preferable :p

- Christine
hey keep your looney comments to yourself, wait that's a twoney, nvm carry on.


@ the topic I'd expect sapphire and powercolor to launch a clocked version of the 4850 to counter this they do have some wiggle room as the 9800gtx+ is launching at 230$ slightly above the stock clocked 4850.
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#22
rodneyhchef
With this imminent release it makes me wonder how long it will be before they release the 260/280 in 55nm form. Could this hurt the current 260/280 sales? I'm not too bothered as I won't be buying one but it's an interesting question nonetheless...
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#23
HTC
by: rodneyhchef
With this imminent release it makes me wonder how long it will be before they release the 260/280 in 55nm form. Could this hurt the current 260/280 sales? I'm not too bothered as I won't be buying one but it's an interesting question nonetheless...
It's quite possible that they are already finishing it and are just waiting for the 4870x2 to be launched to make their counter-strike.
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#24
newtekie1
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by: rodneyhchef
With this imminent release it makes me wonder how long it will be before they release the 260/280 in 55nm form. Could this hurt the current 260/280 sales? I'm not too bothered as I won't be buying one but it's an interesting question nonetheless...
I don't expect 260/280 in 55nm form any time soon. They already had G92's shrunk down to 55nm a while ago, there was a news article about them switching to using them on the 9800GX2. So they probably just used the same core on the 9800GTX+. I don't think they already have a 55nm 260/280 core yet, but I'm sure it will come in time. I give it 4-6 months before 55nm 260/280 cores hit the market, at least.
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#25
lemonadesoda
NICE COMEBACK from nVidia. And perfect timing
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