Man.. these RV700s are a beast though, cheaper than two GTX 280s, and outdoing three GTX280s. Crazy. Black PCB too :D looks mad.

All Of Keep Saying How Good The New Ati Cards Are But As Crossfire Is Concerned Two 4870 Crossfire Perfomance Sucks! And I Am Sure That This Is Fake And Even It's Real I Am No Way Convinced That The Performance Of 4870x2 In Crossfire Will Be Good In Games! All Dual Chip Cards Allways Suffer From Stuttering And Usual The 2nd Dual Card Causes The Stuttering. I Have Tried All Quad Sli Setups And Quad Crossfire Cards And Performance In Games Sucks!
I Don't Believe That Ati/amd Managed To Fix Their Drivers! We Just Have To Wait And See! Fan Speed Bug On 4870 & 4850 ? Ha Ha Ha Ha!

you are wrong, the 4870x2 uses a new gpu interconnect bus that enhances scalability and as far as im aware makes the card appear as a single gpu. unlike the 3870x2 which uses an internal crossfire bridge, the 4870x2 uses something for more effective and should eliminate the microstutter

Edit: you didnt just create an account to bad mouth particular companies, did you? as that would be very sad... lol

by: psefer

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All Of Keep Saying How Good The New Ati Cards Are But As Crossfire Is Concerned Two 4870 Crossfire Perfomance Sucks! And I Am Sure That This Is Fake And Even It's Real I Am No Way Convinced That The Performance Of 4870x2 In Crossfire Will Be Good In Games! All Dual Chip Cards Allways Suffer From Stuttering And Usual The 2nd Dual Card Causes The Stuttering. I Have Tried All Quad Sli Setups And Quad Crossfire Cards And Performance In Games Sucks!
I Don't Believe That Ati/amd Managed To Fix Their Drivers! We Just Have To Wait And See! Fan Speed Bug On 4870 & 4850 ? Ha Ha Ha Ha!

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Mate, DO NOT TYPE YOUR WHOLE POST IN CAPS.

ALL OF YOU KEEP SAYING HOW GOOD THE NEW ATI CARDS ARE BUT AS FAR AS CROSSFIRE IS CONCERNED TWO 4870 CROSSFIRE PERFORMANCE SUCKS! AND IM SURE THAT THIS IS FAKE AND EVEN IT'S REAL I AM NO WAY CONVINCED THAT THE PERFORMANCE OF THE 4870X2 IN CROSSFIRE WIL BE GOOD IN GAMES! ALL DUAL CHIP CARDS ALLWAYS SUFFER FROM STUTTERING AND THE USUAL 2ND DUAL ARD CAUSES THE STUTTERING. I HAVE TRIED ALL QUA SLI SETUPS AND QUAD CROSSFIRE CARDS AND PERFORMANE IN GAMES SUCKS!
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ATI/AMD MANAGED TO FIX THEIR DRIVERS! WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE! FAN SPEED BUG ON 4870 & 4850 ? HA HA HA HA!

^Is that the spam you wanted to post?


All dual chip cards sufer from stuttering? ORLY now. My friend's Dual 9800GX2 setup was virtually free from such an issue. If you call me blind or whatever I'll label you as a troll. Photos or it didnt happen.

No I Didn't Signed Up To Say Bad Things About A Company. But Lately Ati Performance Is Dissapointing! I Think That We Should Start Caring About The Performance In Games! Higher 3d Mark Scores Doesn't Mean Higher Performance In Games! We Should Always Stick To Better Performance In The Games Especially In Minumum Frame Rate! Who Cares If A Card Scores Better In 3d Mark But Sucks In Games! We Buy Graphic Cards To Play Games Not To Benchmark! All Of Us Have To Decide What We Are : Gamers ? Or Benchmarkers ?

But for RV770, the 3DMark scores do translate to high performance in games? :confused:

by: psefer

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No I Didn't Signed Up To Say Bad Things About A Company. But Lately Ati Performance Is Dissapointing! I Think That We Should Start Caring About The Performance In Games! Higher 3d Mark Scores Doesn't Mean Higher Performance In Games! We Should Always Stick To Better Performance In The Games Especially In Minumum Frame Rate! Who Cares If A Card Scores Better In 3d Mark But Sucks In Games! We Buy Graphic Cards To Play Games Not To Benchmark! All Of Us Have To Decide What We Are : Gamers ? Or Benchmarkers ?

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stop typing in caps. Its rude. you're fortunate that the forum wont display your whole post in caps. So if you say AMD sucks so much, nvidia must be in a worse position-so you are saying that ALL GPUS SUCK.

We dont need to hear your angst.

lol omg... ATI performance dissapointing?

you gotta be kidding?

they are manufacturing cards that cost a fraction of their direct competators and are running on par with them!

Hell, the 4870x2 is gonna hold the crown untill NV can bring out something new, so you are really ignorant if you believe ATI is being dissapointing? lol

Hell, for example, id rather pay $200 less for a card that is on par or even a few % behind its competator, it just makes sense, and the scalability, ability to add as you go, it is all very impressive

anyways, moving on and back to topic;

a banana on a rail track is not gonna derail this thread :p

by: mandelore

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a banana on a rail track is not gonna derail this thread :p

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SIGQUOTED ROFLROFLROFLROFLAMBO

does anyone have pics of the card itself?

Life & graphics card companies are pretty similar. Each have its ups & downs, highs & low, victories & defeats. Seeing this thread is a good indication of how far fanboism will go. There are only 2 real facts about these cards that true consumers should pay attention to: The 4870x2 is faster than the GTX280. The 4870x2 is cheaper than the GTX280. ...& yet some ppl still think the GTX280 is better for some dumb reason, this is unforgiveable. We must find some way to alleviate these ppl from this plait :nutkick:

by: Megasty

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Life & graphics card companies are pretty similar. Each have its ups & downs, highs & low, victories & defeats. Seeing this thread is a good indication of how far fanboism will go. There are only 2 real facts about these cards that true consumers should pay attention to: The 4870x2 is faster than the GTX280. The 4870x2 is cheaper than the GTX280. ...& yet some ppl still think the GTX280 is better for some dumb reason, this is unforgiveable. We must find some way to alleviate these ppl from this plait :nutkick:

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I dont see anyone in Australia who i know who intend on buying the GTX2xxs.... I only see three kinds: 4850 owners, 4870 owners, or people waiting for the R700.

True, but everyone has been guilty of being loyal to ones "cause" at some point. But when hard facts stare you in the face, and then left hook you one, you gotta pay attention

by: tkpenalty

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does anyone have pics of the card itself?

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Kind of poor quality but this one is installed:



Did you notice, they're running it using two 6-pin power inputs instead of 6 pin + 8 pin?

i have to say the black theme adopted by the x2 is something it needed to seperate it from the rest of the lineup coz this card is finally something ATI should and are proud of (id hope)

Red theme, nah, this is apparently one slick card, so black all the way :D

by: btarunr

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Kind of poor quality but this one is installed:



Did you notice, they're running it using two 6-pin power inputs instead of 6 pin + 8 pin?

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wondering, are they gonna restrict overclocking to a full 6+8pin config?

I cant remember where i seen the peak power consumption list, or even if the 4870x2 was included but im wondering about my PSU, given can run my qx9650 way over 4ghz, and run my 2900xt at 925core for 24/gaming no probs, is this gonna be sufficient?

For a single card, yes I think 36~40A (12V) should suffice for the entire system with the OC as well. Corsair claims its VX450W (that has a single 33A 12V rail) runs a 9800 GX2 / HD3870X2 just fine. You get the idea.

by: tkpenalty

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SIGQUOTED ROFLROFLROFLROFLAMBO

does anyone have pics of the card itself?

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Hows this ? http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=news_4870x2cpenk1.jpg

more here .http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9741/rv770_based_radeon_hd_4870_x2_stripped_naked/index.html

notice the PCI-E 2.0 bridge chip has the specs hidden.This is directed to the Nivida Fanboy above.....So long micro-stutter mythology

He was asking about a fully-clothed card.

wooooooooow very cool , that what i wait for

Black on black with that red fan & copper HS is just gonna look badass. A black fan would have probably been too much black to still consider a red card :p

by: btarunr

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He was asking about a fully-clothed card.

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oh ,

I think the cooler will look similar to the 3870 X2 one,But some company`s might use the Thermal-Take Dual Orb on them .

by: PrudentPrincess

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Nvidia hasn't come out with a dual processor card for this generation, so benchmarks like this mean jack shit.

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Some Nvidia Fanboy looks a little peeved:toast: never mind I am sure Nvidia will be back ontop in the next 24 months, it will take them that long to play catch up ,and the Intel debarcle is slowing them down ^^

by: H82LUZ73

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Hows this ? http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=news_4870x2cpenk1.jpg

more here .http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9741/rv770_based_radeon_hd_4870_x2_stripped_naked/index.html

notice the PCI-E 2.0 bridge chip has the specs hidden.This is directed to the Nivida Fanboy above.....So long micro-stutter mythology

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yeah i read that article and another similar, 15% gains over crossfired cards is NICE. and thats not even accounting for overclocking :)

by: Megasty

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Black on black with that red fan & copper HS is just gonna look badass. A black fan would have probably been too much black to still consider a red card :p

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This is probably an ASUS Republic For Gamers card,Hence the Black PCB like they use on all the high end Mother Boards.

by: H82LUZ73

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This is probably an ASUS Republic For Gamers card,Hence the Black PCB like they use on all the high end Mother Boards.

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Not likely, ROG cards are usually released mid-way through a series' lifespan after ASUS has some time to tweak them & add their own cooling. Plus this appears to be a prototype card no matter how you look at it.