| Saturday, July 5 2008 |
Amidst this whole 'nGOHQ' saga, and us getting astonished at the way things turned out, here's what we missed:
NVIDIA is in talks with AMD over a possible technology-transfer agreement over PhysX, say industry sources in Hong Kong. In a not-so-recent article by HKEPC, it is said:
"The graphics card industry pointed out that while AMD Open Table support of Havok, but Havok has been the acquisition of Intel, Havok and PhysX is the same competition on the product, AMD has its own wishful thinking, by NVIDIA and Intel in physics engine Competition and get access to two major physics engine authorization, two competition is very likely to become the largest beneficiary of AMD." (Chinese, translated by Google into English).
AMD and NVIDIA are in discussions over a common ground that allows AMD to use the PhysX API with its products. This follows the news of AMD optimizing their hardware for Havoc. There are two implications to this:
With inputs from HKEPC
NVIDIA is in talks with AMD over a possible technology-transfer agreement over PhysX, say industry sources in Hong Kong. In a not-so-recent article by HKEPC, it is said:
"The graphics card industry pointed out that while AMD Open Table support of Havok, but Havok has been the acquisition of Intel, Havok and PhysX is the same competition on the product, AMD has its own wishful thinking, by NVIDIA and Intel in physics engine Competition and get access to two major physics engine authorization, two competition is very likely to become the largest beneficiary of AMD." (Chinese, translated by Google into English).
AMD and NVIDIA are in discussions over a common ground that allows AMD to use the PhysX API with its products. This follows the news of AMD optimizing their hardware for Havoc. There are two implications to this:
- AMD gets to an agreement with NVIDIA and ropes in PhysX, leaving their graphics processors optimized for both physics APIs, thereby making buying a Radeon product a better option over GeForce. A short-sighted look at things to come.
- AMD plays risky, adopts PhysX, NVIDIA's developer relation programs popularize the PhysX API beyond Havoc (since now anyone can use it), eliminate Havoc, then hold a dominating position over AMD since PhysX would then become an indispensible technology for AMD, could affect the course of major corporate policies for AMD. A long-sighted look at things to come.
With inputs from HKEPC
User comments
Acutally there was a Socket that Supported Intel, AMD, Cyrix, IDT, and i believe Sun/Cisco, It is called Socket 7 and the Improvement was Super 7 which introduced many technologies we see on motherboards today and a few years ago.
by: KieranD
sorry to be of topic but
lol amd used to manufacture intel cpus back 20-30 years ago, then they started to do there own cpus
there was evebn that socket that could accept intel or amd cpus.
i think they were more alike back in the day.
IBM and Motorola were big cpu player years ago, motorola had all sorts of cpus, they did the cpu for the NES
by: eidairaman1soeckt 7 was 1337, man, one of the most versatile CPU platforms . . . ever
Acutally there was a Socket that Supported Intel, AMD, Cyrix, IDT, and i believe Sun/Cisco, It is called Socket 7 and the Improvement was Super 7 which introduced many technologies we see on motherboards today and a few years ago.
I've still got a couple of super 7 CPUs laying around here, hell, I've been using an AMD K6-2 sa a paperweight :laugh:
I said in the other thread(s) that AMD wins out of all of this, as they get support for both technologies (if this goes through).
by: EastCoasthandleseriously what are you smoking, Nvidia is sharing tech with AMD, and AMD is doing the smart thing and accepting it unoffically. Nvidia has no reason to cowtow to what AMD wants though, they still have the strongest card out and the GTX260 at its current pricepoint is well worth it over the 4870. Also your under the impression Nvidia controls TWIMTBP games, they don't, if you want that logo ask Nvidia for the geforce SDK and guess what you get that niffty logo, its free advertising for Nvidia. You need to get a handle on realaity and realize that what you ask is laughable and also realize Nvidia is doing this simply to hurt Intel, not to help AMD, remember AMD doesnt have a dedicated area of its GPU for CUDA like the GT200 does
ATI/AMD does hold the chips in the short term. However, if they actually consider this they should make Nvidia re-code all present and future TWIMTBP games to scale better with ATI cards in single and CF mode. Also, force them to support DX10.1 in ALL TWIMTBP games both present and feature. But ATI/AMD should give them a time line to get it done or else the deal is off!
So, if they are in a meeting ATI/AMD does have a short term bargaining chip they can use to get things rolling. In the long term ATI/AMD is in the position to play double agent between PhysX and Havok.
If Nvidia wants to embrace ATI/AMD then it should be a full embrace. Nvidia gets ATI/AMD full support with Cuda, ATI gets Nvidia full advertising support. This IMHO is a even trade! No ifs, ands or buts about it.
by: xfire
and it hopes to take Intel down along with itself, then Intel Nvidia merge to create 2 companies one can.
maybe nvidia turn over and go with ati and keep intel alone, cuz nvidia also need gddr5 technology , nvidia don't like intel after release the nehalem without support sli ,
candle_86, I agree.
Nvidia and AMD/ATI are both feeling threatened by Intel. Intel has a lot of money to throw at the graphics market and are doing it. It will only be a matter of time before Intel comes up with a standard and a chipset that performs best with their GPUs.
If ATI and Nvidia go with CUDA/PhysX then at this point it is more likely to be the standard and push Intel that much farther behind. We just need Red and Green to keep from back stabbing each other to make it work. I think if Nvidia is reasonable it won't hurt them ($$) and it won't give them a major advantage/disadvantage, of course I guess AMD would have to be reasonable as well ; P
Nvidia and AMD/ATI are both feeling threatened by Intel. Intel has a lot of money to throw at the graphics market and are doing it. It will only be a matter of time before Intel comes up with a standard and a chipset that performs best with their GPUs.
If ATI and Nvidia go with CUDA/PhysX then at this point it is more likely to be the standard and push Intel that much farther behind. We just need Red and Green to keep from back stabbing each other to make it work. I think if Nvidia is reasonable it won't hurt them ($$) and it won't give them a major advantage/disadvantage, of course I guess AMD would have to be reasonable as well ; P