Thursday, July 10th 2008

R700 up to 80 % Faster than GeForce GTX 280

Pre-release performance evaluations suggest that the Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB GDDR5 model will on an average be 50% faster than the GeForce GTX 280 and in some tests 80% faster. A second model, the HD 4850 X2 (2GB GDDR3 memory, 2x RV770Pro) will also convincingly outperform the GeForce GTX 280. The R700 series will be brought into the market late-July thru August.Source: Hardspell
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149 Comments on R700 up to 80 % Faster than GeForce GTX 280

#1
Kei
by: tigger69
Some people say because of this competition,we win.But that is not true,because nvidia and ati are competeing so fiercely now,they are releasing new cards more regularly.And we are buying them more regularly,giving them even more of our dosh.

I have not had my 3850 very long and i am about to change it for a 4850.
Ha, c'mon tigger we dont' HAVE to buy the cards...you just want one, that's not their faults :p

K
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#2
ShinyG
This might be just hype, but under any circumstances, we have: competition! :D

We have a saying in Romania for the situation in which nVidia is in now: "nVidia simte cum ii intra morocovul in cur!" which can be translated as: "nVidia can feel the carrot going up it's azz!" :))

I hope they have the power to come back and fight, because I'm loving this competition thing!
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#3
Jansku07
IF NVIDIA launches GTX280X2 or GTX260X2 it will cost like hell, and may not even be that faster. NVIDIA must now lower their top card's price and quickly launch g200b.
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#4
DarkMatter
by: tigger69
Some people say because of this competition,we win.But that is not true,because nvidia and ati are competeing so fiercely now,they are releasing new cards more regularly.And we are buying them more regularly,giving them even more of our dosh.

I have not had my 3850 very long and i am about to change it for a 4850.
Don't buy it then. :roll:

lol you sound like an alcoholic who seems to have been locked up by force in a cellar.
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#5
DarkMatter
by: Jansku07
IF NVIDIA launches GTX280X2 or GTX260X2 it will cost like hell.
GTX260 is pretty much at the same price as HD4870...
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#6
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
The world doesn't buy stuff from Newegg. Here it's only gone $15 less than launch price....GTX 260.
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#7
tigger
I'm the only one
by: DarkMatter
Don't buy it then. :roll:

lol you sound like an alcoholic who seems to have been locked up by force in a cellar.
:confused:

Well i suppose there is always the rich boys to keep their pockets lined.
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#8
DarkMatter
by: btarunr
The world doesn't buy stuff from Newegg. Here it's only gone $15 less than launch price....GTX 260.
Don't take offense, but India is not precisely the biggest market out there, one that big companies would care a lot of. In US and entire Europe the GTX260 IS almost at same price AFAIK. Here in Spain it is at least. I have seen Palit's and Gigabyte's GTX260 for 230 euros VAT incl. HD4870 sells for 215-230, I couldn't find one for less. I can't post the prices because the ones I'm talking about are retail, not etail. All the other GTX260 that I found are around 250 or above, but all of them are heavlily overclocked cards. Because Nvidia is more flexible with partners, they overclock a lot and their prices are very loose, but you can always have one (even OCed) for very good price. With 8800 GT happened the same, average price of the GT was significantly higher than HD3870 but I bought mine for 203 euros, when average GT was 250 and HD was 220.
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: DarkMatter
Don't take offense, but India is not precisely the biggest market out there, one that big companies would care a lot of. In US and entire Europe the GTX260 IS almost at same price AFAIK. Here in Spain it is at least. I have seen Palit's and Gigabyte's GTX260 for 230 euros VAT incl. HD4870 sells for 215-230, I couldn't find one for less. I can't post the prices because the ones I'm talking about are retail, not etail. All the other GTX260 that I found are around 250 or above, but all of them are heavlily overclocked cards. Because Nvidia is more flexible with partners, they overclock a lot and their prices are very loose, but you can always have one (even OCed) for very good price. With 8800 GT happened the same, average price of the GT was significantly higher than HD3870 but I bought mine for 203 euros, when average GT was 250 and HD was 220.
The fact that the release prices here are on-par (nearly) with release prices in the US shows that. Just as you sit in Basaque Country telling the prices are on par (of GTX260 and 4870), I can say that's not with all markets, but cards when launched are priced on-par with company-specified MSRPs. So you can't generalise.

And oh...our price-bands are close to those of China's, two really huge populations. You don't have such huge price-cuts in China too.
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#10
robodude666
How many nVidia supports do you think will say it doesn't count because its not 1 GPU?
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#11
DarkMatter
by: btarunr
The fact that the release prices here are on-par (nearly) with release prices in the US shows that. Just as you sit in Basaque Country telling the prices are on par (of GTX260 and 4870), I can say that's not with all markets, but cards when launched are priced on-par with company-specified MSRPs. So you can't generalise.
Well you can't generalise either, on the biggest US etailers price is close, on Germany and around countries is close, on Spain (politically Basque Country is Spain, but not on heart, long to explain) is close. And if you were figuring out, I've read somewhere Spain was the 3th bigger electronics consumer country in Europe and I think it was 9th in the world. I don't know if that survey was reliable anyway, so don't quote me, but you get the idea.
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#12
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
I didn't generalise, I said "The world doesn't buy from Newegg", you said "The prices of GTX 260 and HD4870 are nearly the same". We could agree to disagree.
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#13
candle_86
well in the US market they are the same price and id take the GTX 260 over the 4850 anyday
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#14
Millenia
by: candle_86
well in the US market they are the same price and id take the GTX 260 over the 4850 anyday
I guess you would take a GTX 260 over a 4850 since they're in a different performance class :p
Did you mean to type 4870?

Anyways, it seems that at Newegg the GTX260 costs at least 50 bucks more than a 4870 while performing similarly? The difference is even bigger here in Finland; 230€ vs 290€ for the cheapest offers I could found, 60€ (nearly 100 bucks) is quite a bit of cash only for the sake of fanboyism.

And bloody hell, you're the worst Nvidia troll I've ever seen, you're always bashing AMD/ATI in every single thread concerning either Radeons or GeForces - even when they're CLEARLY better D:
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#15
candle_86
you moron im running crossfire, but i would go Nvidia they have something that the R770 doesnt have, overclocking headroom and these special R770 cards are gonna cost a shit load, so ill take the card thats close in price and OC's like a mother
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#16
btarunr
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No name-calling please. Have respect towards each-other.
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#17
chron
by: candle_86
you moron im running crossfire, but i would go Nvidia they have something that the R770 doesnt have, overclocking headroom and these special R770 cards are gonna cost a shit load, so ill take the card thats close in price and OC's like a mother
yeah but ati has something nvidia doesnt have (correct me if I'm wrong) : dynamic voltage control (which in turn gives better overclocking with propper cooling)
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#18
DarkMatter
by: btarunr
I didn't generalise, I said "The world doesn't buy from Newegg", you said "The prices of GTX 260 and HD4870 are nearly the same". We could agree to disagree.
I didn't understand the sentence then. I thought you were saying Newegg was the only place where prices were similar. I didn't generalise either, I just mentioned Spain to say that I was sure about prices here, any honest person wouldn't try to ensure how prices are elsewhere, sorry if I sounded that way. Usually here prices are relative to those in US and the rest of Europe. That's why I mentioned it.
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#19
candle_86
by: chron
yeah but ati has something nvidia doesnt have (correct me if I'm wrong) : dynamic voltage control (which in turn gives better overclocking with propper cooling)
yea but there stock cooler is crap so that feature is worthless and its just a way for most people to damage something, i dont volt my video cards, i OC at stock volts and i care who has the headroom at stock voltage with stock cooling and IMO ATI doesnt have either
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#20
tigger
I'm the only one
I go for the cheapest card with some goooo.I usually change the cooler anyway from stock so i dont care if the stock cooler is loud/crap.

I dont see the point buying the high end uber cards when they will just replace it a few months making your card worth less than you payed for it(sometimes) :p
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#21
Millenia
by: tigger69
I go for the cheapest card with some goooo.I usually change the cooler anyway from stock so i dont care if the stock cooler is loud/crap.

I dont see the point buying the high end uber cards when they will just replace it a few months making your card worth less than you payed for it(sometimes) :p
Usually yeah, the 8800 GTX was the king of the hill for quite a while though, like 1½ years :laugh:
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#23
chron
by: candle_86
yea but there stock cooler is crap so that feature is worthless and its just a way for most people to damage something, i dont volt my video cards, i OC at stock volts and i care who has the headroom at stock voltage with stock cooling and IMO ATI doesnt have either
Actually the stock fans aren't crap, the stock fan SETTINGS are. And to volt mod an ati card all you need to do is stick a small case fan over the VRM heatsink while nvidia requires soldiering.

I can overclock my 8800gt to 700, but I have to turn fan to 100% or games like cod4 and crysis will lockup. With my x1800gto from back in the day, I hit 700/700 from 500/500 AND unlocked it to 16 pipes, all on stock cooling, but with an 80mm fan over the VRM heatsink.
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#24
vojc
by: X-TeNDeR
one word: PWND! :laugh:

At last the answer from ATI is here.. and i'm so happy :)
Now we need some nice new phenoms to go with our 48XX cards.. hey AMD, can you hear me?
True, we need better phenom CPUs, or else i go blue
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#25
vojc
by: candle_86
yea but there stock cooler is crap so that feature is worthless and its just a way for most people to damage something, i dont volt my video cards, i OC at stock volts and i care who has the headroom at stock voltage with stock cooling and IMO ATI doesnt have either
please read some news first to see further stock(or non stock if u wish) coolers ;)
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