Saturday, August 2nd 2008

ZOTAC Watercools GeForce 9800 GTX+ , Names it ZONE Edition

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ZOTAC International, an award-winning NVIDIA AIC, today unleashes the latest edition to its ZONE Edition line of quiet graphics cards - the ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GTX+ ZONE Edition. The new ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GTX+ ZONE Edition delivers the power of NVIDIA GeForce 9 series graphics power, PhysX technology and PureVideo HD video processing technology into a virtually silent graphics card. The ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GTX+ ZONE Edition is quieted by a custom water-cooling system and able to deliver phenomenal visuals and frame rate in DirectX 10 and OpenGL 2.1 titles while maintaining low thermal and noise levels.

Unlike conventional water-cooling units, the ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GTX+ ZONE Edition features a self-contained water-cooling system that requires no end-user maintenance. The self-contained unit comes already attached to the graphics card and only requires the user to mount the 120mm fan and radiator module.

"Many users seek to quiet their systems. Previously, our ZONE Edition models were limited to our ZOTAC GeForce 8-series, with the new ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GTX+ ZONE Edition, we're able to deliver NVIDIA GeForce 9 graphics technology to quiet computing users," said Carsten Berger, marketing director, ZOTAC International (MCO) Ltd. "And because the water-cooling unit is self-contained, customers can have the high performance and quiet operation of water-cooling without the hassles of regular maintenance or installation, which often voids the factory graphics card warranty."

The ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GTX ZONE Edition comes backed by the standard ZOTAC graphics card warranty to ensure users that the ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GTX ZONE Edition and its water cooler are guaranteed for long-term use.

Harnessing the power of NVIDIA's GeForce 9800 GTX+ GPU, the ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GTX+ ZONE Edition delivers compatibility with NVIDIA PhysX technology for immersive gaming that blurs the line between reality and gaming. With NVIDIA PhysX technology, the ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GTX+ ZONE Edition delivers realistic weather, explosion effects and environmental interaction previously thought impossible.

Enjoy high-performance and quiet computing from a single graphics card with the ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GTX+ ZONE Edition.

General details

New ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GTX+ ZONE Edition
ZOTAC Water-cooling system
High-performance, quiet computing
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+
512MB of GDDR3 memory
128 processor cores
3-way SLI ready
HybridPower compatible
NVIDIA PhysX ready
NVIDIA CUDA ready
PCI Express 2.0 interface (Compatible with 1.1)
DirectX 10 with Shader Model 4.0 compatible
OpenGL 2.1 compatible
PureVideo HD technology with hardware decoding of high-definition video formats
Dual dual-link DVI - up to 2560x1600

Source: ZOTAC

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73 Comments on ZOTAC Watercools GeForce 9800 GTX+ , Names it ZONE Edition

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator

that.... seems lame.

they talk about being 'limited' to geforce 8 until now... 'cept the 9 series is the same G92 core so its the same. Only if it was a GTX280 would i care.

oh and looking at the tubing it could be a real ass to mount - fixed lengths could be too long or too short for the majority of people who get this card.

PCpraiser100

One giant step for stupidity while we wish they will just did that to the GTX 200 series.

ShadowFold

I love the idea its just the 9800GTX is kinda worthless now.. And its gonna be pricey cause of the liquid system. Probably the price of a GTX 260!

newtekie1

Semi-Retired Folder

A water cooled card...and it isn't being released by Saphire...

Selene

I have been looking at coolits SLI cooling for the GTX200 cards, it looks nice, and can run 1 or 2 cards.
Its alittle pricey, wish their was a way to use it on more then 1 gen of cards.
They make it for the G80 cards and GTX200 only right now.

thoughtdisorder

I can't help but think this is aimed for people who don't really understand about HW but want something "sexy" in their puter. Don't get me wrong, nice, but a lil late (9800)imo. :cool:

PrudentPrincess

thoughtdisorderI can't help but think this is aimed for people who don't really understand about HW but want something "sexy" in their puter. Don't get me wrong, nice, but a lil late (9800)imo. :cool:

Yeah, it's the same as the Fatal1ty series of products. "Tested by a 30-something year old with nothing better to do with his life than pretend he knows about computer hardware" :laugh:

robspierre6

9800gtx+

Nothing special at all.
It's a 9800gtx with higher clocks.
The 4850 from ATI beats the 9800gtx/gtx+."check at techreport/tomshardware"
Another stupid step from nvidia.the 280gtx has a 578mm of die size.yet,the 4870 with a
234mm die competes with the 280gtx.
nvidia needs to come up with a new architecture and to improve it's quality.
the coverage scene aa used in the 8000/9000/200 series is crap compared to ATI's adaptive aa. with 8/16bits of colordepth and 1/2 textures via each added pixel vs 32/64bit of colordepth and 4/8 textures with ATI's adaptive aa .
The LS-HDR used in the 200 series supports up to 2400 levels of shades.not bad,
But ATI's SSGA-HDR suports up tp 11040 level of shades.
NVIDIA's gamma correction doesn't cover over 4x aa. ATI's alpha gamma correction covers up to 24x aa.
Not talking about the damaged pixels you get when using aa and af at the same time
with the geforce card. because of the mixed textures deliverd with the added pixels via the coverage aa.
killing quality for performance is the way nvidia does things.

TheGuruStud

robspierre6Nothing special at all.
It's a 9800gtx with higher clocks.
The 4850 from ATI beats the 9800gtx/gtx+."check at techreport/tomshardware"
Another stupid step from nvidia.the 280gtx has a 578mm of die size.yet,the 4870 with a
234mm die competes with the 280gtx.

more BS and more BS and more BS and more BS and more BS, etc, etc ,etc, etc

Troll much, douche?

As long as you can switch out the hoses, I say it's a good idea. But only realistic if the value warrants it (can't cost too much or it's pointless).

#10

newtekie1

Semi-Retired Folder

I wouldn't say the 9800GTX is totally worthless right now, and that isn't just because I own two of them.

At stock it matches a 4850, it is cheaper than a 4850, and I can't think of a better card to get in the sub-$200 bracket. IMO, it is a very fine card still. I'm personally glad manufactures aren't focussing entirely on the extremely expensive cards and are showing some support for the affordable cards.

#11

dalekdukesboy

I agree...

newtekie1I wouldn't say the 9800GTX is totally worthless right now, and that isn't just because I own two of them.

At stock it matches a 4850, it is cheaper than a 4850, and I can't think of a better card to get in the sub-$200 bracket. IMO, it is a very fine card still. I'm personally glad manufactures aren't focussing entirely on the extremely expensive cards and are showing some support for the affordable cards.

Well, you have the biggest nuts of all these guys far as I'm concerned, because you didn't just go on the same tantrum everyone else goes on and just bash anything Nvidia...funny, people have short memories and forget things like the 2900xt or the 3000 series by Ati...now THOSE were just awesome cards weren't they??? I didn't think so...particularly not compared to the 8800 series and then the g92 variants including the 9800 gtx and now + version, and STILL Nvidia with its 280gtx has the overall fastest single video card in existance, yet all I hear is how it should be better, smaller, faster whatever the gripe is. NOT saying there aren't issues with it or the 9800 but please, show some objectivity and remember your graphic card history a little better.

I've owned both ati cards and nvidia cards, so I'm not really biased at all, I prefer the fastest platform in reference to price and also heat/energy concerns and kudos to whichever company has that card at the time. Sorry to be so caustic but I'm just a bit tired of this bandwagon bashing of late at Nvidia, for a while they were your ONLY real choice for a good video card while ATI was making the aforementioned joke cards namely the 2900xt, which uses the energy and produces heat practically on par with the 280 and would be an utter embarrasment if you actually graphed its graphical performance next to the 280, and the 3000 series is better but still quite a far cry from anything Nvidia produces at this point.

Anyway no offense to anyone, but that's just my opinion and I believe some of you are being very shortsighted even though SOME of your complaints are valid, true objectivity is lacking greatly...

#12

spy2520

you gotta admit though, all the reviews seem to put the 4850 a decent amount above the 9800GTX+ performance wise and at almost the same price. From some points of view i can see how it is seen as wasted effort.

#13

[I.R.A]_FBi

last time i checked 9800gtx+'s were going for 220ish

4850's go for 170 ish ...

its no competition

#14

Bundy

Several posts above question why Nvidia are focusing on 9800. I just scrolled back through the news posts on TPU and the 9000 series is mentioned often. It would seem at the moment that Nvidia and their partners are focusing on the mid-performance market rather than the top.

#15

robspierre6

You dalekdukesboy are a nvidia fanboi.comparing the 2000 series from ATI to nvidia's 200 series is totally stupid.
The performance/mm of the 4870 is 2.5x of that of the 280gtx.So,lets compare the last generations from both manufacturers.
I don't know where you get your reviews from.i get mine from reiliable sites like tomshardware,techreport and anandtech.
The 4870 with 2.5x smaller die than the 280gtx's beats the 280gtx in some games.
The g80 architecture is old now.nvidia has to come up with something better to compete with ATI.
It's not how many stream cores you can fit on that die,its the processing power"The number of constructions/flops a gpu can achieve in a single cycle" you can put on that die.
Now the 4870 can achieve 1200 Giga-Flops/cycle vs 933 Gig-Flops/cycle for the 280gtx.
And offensing people for their different opinions is no that way we argue here.

#16

Dia01

bundyrum&cokeSeveral posts above question why Nvidia are focusing on 9800. I just scrolled back through the news posts on TPU and the 9000 series is mentioned often. It would seem at the moment that Nvidia and their partners are focusing on the mid-performance market rather than the top.

Interesting point, maybe they are and trying to recover a little from the substantial price reductions of their top ends?

#17

PrudentPrincess

robspierre6Anyway no offense to anyone, but that's just my opinion and I believe some of you are being very shortsighted even though SOME of your complaints are valid, true objectivity is lacking greatly...

You are dalekdukesboy a nvidia fanboi.comparing the 2000 series fro ATI to nvidia's 200 series is totally stupid.
The performance/mm of the 4870 is 2.5x of that of the 280gtx.So,lets compare the last generations from both manufacturers.
I don't know where you get your reviews from.i get mine from reiliable sites like tomshardware,techreport and anandtech.
The 4870 with 2.5x smaller die than the 280gtx's beats the 280gtx in some games.
The g80 architechtuer is old now.nvidia has to come up with something better to compete with ATI.
It's not how many stream cores you can fit on that die,its the processing power"The number of constructions/flops a gpu can achieve in a single cycle" you can put on that die.
Now the 4870 can achieve 1200 Giga-Flops/cycle vs 933 Gig-Flops/cycle for the 280gtx.
And offensing people for their diefferent opinions is no that way we argue here.

Who bloody cares?
Troll elsewere.

#18

[I.R.A]_FBi

rechecked 9800gtx+'s are 200

#19

Megasty

Aren't WC cards usually single slotted. TY Zotac for another useless overpriced card :pimp:

#20

Tatty_Two

Gone Fishing

robspierre6Nothing special at all.
It's a 9800gtx with higher clocks.
The 4850 from ATI beats the 9800gtx/gtx+."check at techreport/tomshardware"
Another stupid step from nvidia.the 280gtx has a 578mm of die size.yet,the 4870 with a
234mm die competes with the 280gtx.
nvidia needs to come up with a new architecture and to improve it's quality.
the coverage scene aa used in the 8000/9000/200 series is crap compared to ATI's adaptive aa. with 8/16bits of colordepth and 1/2 textures via each added pixel vs 32/64bit of colordepth and 4/8 textures with ATI's adaptive aa .
The LS-HDR used in the 200 series supports up to 2400 levels of shades.not bad,
But ATI's SSGA-HDR suports up tp 11040 level of shades.
NVIDIA's gamma correction doesn't cover over 4x aa. ATI's alpha gamma correction covers up to 24x aa.
Not talking about the damaged pixels you get when using aa and af at the same time
with the geforce card. because of the mixed textures deliverd with the added pixels via the coverage aa.
killing quality for performance is the way nvidia does things.

Just for the record and the sake of accuracy (as opposed to fanboi...ism).....the 9800GTX+ is also actually a die shrink from 65nm to 55nm firstly, secondly it runs considerably cooler than the 4850, thirdly is tends to overclock a little better, ohhhh and fourthly it beats the 4850 in most benches, certainly at the most popular resolutions :p.....however, IMO the 4850 is def the better bang for buck and unless someone already has an SLi board and will be looking to SLi in the future.....the 4850 is the only way to go!

www.legitreviews.com/article/731/1/

#21

TheGuruStud

4850 can only win a couple times by a few fps when the res is 1900x1200 and aa and af is cranked up and a couple times with no aa or af. Both 9800s hold their ground.

#22

dalekdukesboy

let's be real please

robspierre6Anyway no offense to anyone, but that's just my opinion and I believe some of you are being very shortsighted even though SOME of your complaints are valid, true objectivity is lacking greatly...

You are dalekdukesboy a nvidia fanboi.comparing the 2000 series fro ATI to nvidia's 200 series is totally stupid.
The performance/mm of the 4870 is 2.5x of that of the 280gtx.So,lets compare the last generations from both manufacturers.
I don't know where you get your reviews from.i get mine from reiliable sites like tomshardware,techreport and anandtech.
The 4870 with 2.5x smaller die than the 280gtx's beats the 280gtx in some games.
The g80 architechtuer is old now.nvidia has to come up with something better to compete with ATI.
It's not how many stream cores you can fit on that die,its the processing power"The number of constructions/flops a gpu can achieve in a single cycle" you can put on that die.
Now the 4870 can achieve 1200 Giga-Flops/cycle vs 933 Gig-Flops/cycle for the 280gtx.
And offensing people for their diefferent opinions is no that way we argue here.

Your post...speaks for itself, least mine is in something resembling the english language, and I wrote that I was speaking my opinion, which last I checked can be whatever I damn well please lol. Anyhow my comparison wasn't even between the 280 vs the 2900xt directly it was to make a point that ATI has had some crappy years and until the 4000 series it had a heck of a long BAD drought of sub par video cards in ALL classes, entry level to the supposed enthusiast model 2900xt which as I pointed out was a flop. Strange I'm such a Nvidia um (fanboi) as you put it when I still have my x1900xtx ati card in hand and always liked ATI and I still am considering getting a 4870 but I already have the 8800gts in sli and can't really afford it at this moment in time!! All I was saying, is people have very short memories of what company is what and now that ATI is actually competitive again Nvidia is just getting bashed all over the place...so I'm simply trying to inject some sensibility and objectivity vs complete subjectivity on the subject. So you are robspierre ati "fanboi"!!! You speak of how people argue, I never called anyone stupid, however you did, and gigaflops by the way is great, but that isn't real life performance, put up the 4870 vs 280gtx game fps results and show me how ATI's card takes the crown...didn't think so.

#23

newtekie1

Semi-Retired Folder

spy2520you gotta admit though, all the reviews seem to put the 4850 a decent amount above the 9800GTX+ performance wise and at almost the same price. From some points of view i can see how it is seen as wasted effort.

What reviews are these? All the ones I have seen put the two about neck and neck at stock. With the 9800GTX+ running cooler and overclocking better.

Can you show me some reviews otherwise?

The latest review done on this very site puts the 9800GTX(no +) within 2% of the HD4850 overall.

[I.R.A]_FBilast time i checked 9800gtx+'s were going for 220ish

4850's go for 170 ish ...

its no competition

Putting this single special card aside. The 9800GTX+ sells for $200 over at the egg. The standard 9800GTX goes for $172 though, and it essentially matches the HD4850. Though, IMO, the best bang for the buck still was with the 8800GTS 512MB. They overclock to 9800GTX speeds, bringing them to within 2% of the HD4850, and can be had for $160. Though the HD4850 available for $165 is also a damn good buy. IMO, you can't really go wrong with any one of the cards.

#24

robspierre6

dalekdukesboyYour post...speaks for itself, least mine is in something resembling the english language, and I wrote that I was speaking my opinion, which last I checked can be whatever I damn well please lol. Anyhow my comparison wasn't even between the 280 vs the 2900xt directly it was to make a point that ATI has had some crappy years and until the 4000 series it had a heck of a long BAD drought of sub par video cards in ALL classes, entry level to the supposed enthusiast model 2900xt which as I pointed out was a flop. Strange I'm such a Nvidia um (fanboi) as you put it when I still have my x1900xtx ati card in hand and always liked ATI and I still am considering getting a 4870 but I already have the 8800gts in sli and can't really afford it at this moment in time!! All I was saying, is people have very short memories of what company is what and now that ATI is actually competitive again Nvidia is just getting bashed all over the place...so I'm simply trying to inject some sensibility and objectivity vs complete subjectivity on the subject. So you are robspierre ati "fanboi"!!! You speak of how people argue, I never called anyone stupid, however you did, and gigaflops by the way is great, but that isn't real life performance, put up the 4870 vs 280gtx game fps results and show me how ATI's card takes the crown...didn't think so.

Realy,and what's wrong with the 3800 series?
The 3870 was a very good midrange card ?
Secondly the 4800 series doesn't suffer from any heat issues.raising the fan speed up to 30% will idle the card at mid 40s..
Check at techreport or tomshardware for some real benchmarks.
Cuz you can't trust any site these days.
The 4870 competes directly with the 280gtx.
yet not talking about nvidia's cheap quality.

#25

robspierre6

Tatty_OneJust for the record and the sake of accuracy (as opposed to fanboi...ism).....the 9800GTX+ is also actually a die shrink from 65nm to 55nm firstly, secondly it runs considerably cooler than the 4850, thirdly is tends to overclock a little better, ohhhh and fourthly it beats the 4850 in most benches, certainly at the most popular resolutions :p.....however, IMO the 4850 is def the better bang for buck and unless someone already has an SLi board and will be looking to SLi in the future.....the 4850 is the only way to go!

www.legitreviews.com/article/731/1/

Legitreview? I would call it nvidiaview.
Check at techreport/tomshardware then tell me what do you think.

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