by: W1zzard;924253

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Another HD 4870 X2 picture leak comes from an anonymous E-Mail in my inbox. The pictures show how the PowerColor HD 4870 X2 will look like.

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Wow, they are all coming out today! Any word on whether TPU will be getting a retail one for testing? I want to know if they have fixed the power draw yet.

Lol 2gb ddr5.. no microstuttering.. thats insane - i see forward to the reviews

yes we will have a review when the nda is up tomorrow at 12:01 am EDT

You're going to review this, aren't you? (looking at the TPU watermark). :)

I think they already have reviewed it. The minute the NDA is lifted, you'll see the net swarming with reviews! I'm looking forward to anandtech and tpu's review, I find those the best there is.

In today's day and age, NDAs make me chuckle.

Bring on the reviews!

no we are not reviewing a powercolor card this time

Well, if they want to be the first to publish reviews next time around, they better agree with the NDA...

Man.... beautiful card. Can't wait to see the reviews.

Got a call today by distro rep to meet with him..told me its a surprise.

When i reach.. :P 4870X2 retail unit are here :)




not many pics i can take atm.. ill try to get more pics later :)


Package comes with standard driver cd and additional software.. but also comes with vantage. More details to come soon :)

regards
Reggie

12:01 AM EDT = 04:01 GMT . Nice, gonna set the clock one hour earlier so I have time to read some reviews :D :D :D

I will start testing this powercolor 4870X2 tomorow


i will report the tests later



regards

I wanna see the HIS ones. They usually have the coolest looking!

by: Zehnsucht;924317

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12:01 AM EDT = 04:01 GMT . Nice, gonna set the clock one hour earlier so I have time to read some reviews :D :D :D

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5 am gmt ?

Will the 4870 X2 work with my 680i SLI SE board(TR)?

I dont know how the Ati drivers are going to work with the nvidia chipset.:(

by: ShadowFold;924338

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I wanna see the HIS ones. They usually have the coolest looking!

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Hopefully they'll release an un-stickered cooler, too. :laugh: I was really jiving with the all-black look that the prerelease photos of this card had.

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Will the 4870 X2 work with my 680i SLI SE board(TR)?

I dont know how the Ati drivers are going to work with the nvidia chipset

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Yes, should work fine. Don't need crossfire to run this card, and I don't think the presence of an nvidia chipset should cause trouble.

by: CDdude55;924343

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Will the 4870 X2 work with my 680i SLI SE board(TR)?

I dont know how the Ati drivers are going to work with the nvidia chipset.:(

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Of course! You cant Crossfire two of them tho, but you can use one perfectly fine

by: W1zzard;924339

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5 am gmt ?

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EDT = GMT - 4 => GMT = EDT + 4

Man, writing 1201 AM is one strange way to put it. I'm used to 1201 (1201 PM) and 0001 (1201 AM).


Due to DST, CET should be GMT +2 this time of year, so 06:01 CET is pretty good time to get a coffee and wake up reading the reviews :D

I don't know why I'm so excited though, I probably wont even buy a new GPU until next year.

Now i have to pick, should i get a GTX 260 or one of the 4870 X2's?

I know the 4870 X2 will cost more but i think it may be worth it.

by: CDdude55;924371

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Now i have to pick, should i get a GTX 260 or one of the 4870 X2's?

I know the 4870 X2 will cost more but i think it may be worth it.

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Is the 680i mobo PCI-E 2 or 1 ? Cus if they havent fixed power issues, the 4870X2 needs the power capability of a PCI-E 2.0 mobo. i also dont know how well a 600W will cope either. Will be interesting to see TPU's review tomorrow and see if power issues are fixed.

by: Zehnsucht;924352

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so 06:01 CET is pretty good time to get a coffee and wake up

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sucks for me though because i have to get up so early and press the launch button :(

Cant wait for the reviews, my only question is, and only if you can respond W1zzard...

Are the reviews testing this card with a new unreleased driver??

by: CDdude55;924371

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Now i have to pick, should i get a GTX 260 or one of the 4870 X2's?
I know the 4870 X2 will cost more but i think it may be worth it.

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It will cost about 500$ but check this:

http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/15105/6
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3354&p=4
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/15105/5

by: W1zzard;924383

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sucks for me though because i have to get up so early and press the launch button :(

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I'll be up and waiting at six. :D Wonder if it will break the record of most people online...?

At six? Then you'll be one hour late :p (UK is GMT +1 with DST?)

by: W1zzard;924383

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sucks for me though because i have to get up so early and press the launch button :(

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Awww poor W1zzard :) I bet it was fun testing it though :D

by: alexp999;924373

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Is the 680i mobo PCI-E 2 or 1 ? Cus if they havent fixed power issues, the 4870X2 needs the power capability of a PCI-E 2.0 mobo. i also dont know how well a 600W will cope either. Will be interesting to see TPU's review tomorrow and see if power issues are fixed.

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680i is PCI-e 1.0(or 1.1) But you can run 2.0 card on it from what i have heard and seen.

by: robspierre6;924394

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It will cost about 500$ but check this:

http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/15105/6
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3354&p=4
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/15105/5

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Wow, the 4870 X2 must be very powerful. If it can beat 2 GTX280's in SLI.:eek:

by: CDdude55;924417

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Wow, the 4870 X2 must be very powerful. If it can beat 2 GTX280's in SLI.:eek:

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Aye, the GTX 280 is one powerful damn card, but SLI has very poor scaling compared to Crossfire. So, weirdly enough:

One GTX 280 > One HD 4870

Yet:

Two GTX 280's < One 4870 X2

I do wish that ATI would drop the damn "X2" from this cards -- just call it the 4890 or something. :p With this card and the 3870X2, forums like these are just filled with posts like "Can I run this card if I can't run Crossfire?" and "Can I run this card if I have an SLI board?" I wouldn't doubt that they're probably losing a few sales due to people with SLI boards and whatnot just being scared to buy one.

by: CDdude55;924414

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680i is PCI-e 1.0(or 1.1) But you can run 2.0 card on it from what i have heard and seen.

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Yeah, but the power requirements of the engineering sample needed 96W of power through the PCI-E slot under full load which exceeds PCI-E 1 spec.

by: Zehnsucht;924403

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At six? Then you'll be one hour late :p (UK is GMT +1 with DST?)



Awww poor W1zzard :) I bet it was fun testing it though :D

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Was thinking it was 5hrs from GMT then another for BST.

meh, will read it at some point, will prob crash the TPu servers if we all try to access it at once!

by: mdm-adph;924483

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Aye, the GTX 280 is one powerful damn card, but SLI has very poor scaling compared to Crossfire. So, weirdly enough:

One GTX 280 > One HD 4870

Yet:

Two GTX 280's < One 4870 X2

I do wish that ATI would drop the damn "X2" from this cards -- just call it the 4890 or something. :p With this card and the 3870X2, forums like these are just filled with posts like "Can I run this card if I can't run Crossfire?" and "Can I run this card if I have an SLI board?" I wouldn't doubt that they're probably losing a few sales due to people with SLI boards and whatnot just being scared to buy one.

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The 4870 competes with the 280gtx and beats it in some games.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870,1964-10.html
http://techreport.com/articles.x/14990/9
http://techreport.com/articles.x/14990/12
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870,1964-14.html

by: CDdude55;924371

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Now i have to pick, should i get a GTX 260 or one of the 4870 X2's?

I know the 4870 X2 will cost more but i think it may be worth it.

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For 12xx resolution you wont notice a lot of difference apart from maybe in Crysis.

by: W1zzard;924383

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sucks for me though because i have to get up so early and press the launch button :(

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NP, I'll be wide awake at 5 AM GMT, I'll press the 'buttons' for you if I could :)

To Do list:
- Publish the review.
- Deploy a platoon of moderators to keep an eye on the discussion thread
- Ask Zotac for a new ad (No more "Fastest VGA in the World")

How about the 9800 GX2?. But i only game at 1440x900, so i guess a GTX 260 or 280 would do.

by: CDdude55;924538

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How about the 9800 GX2?. But i only game at 1440x900, so i guess a GTX 260 or 280 would do.

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I got 1440x900 and my 4850 laughs at everything even crysis with AA so thats all you need if your gaming :)

I cant wait and I envy you guys who got reps who contact you about new stuff like this!!!

Grrr, I only know a few guys at TD & MC. They like to give you free stuff after they're done nearly blowing it up :p Especially the TD guys. I guess they loved all the business I gave them since they opened up over here :rolleyes: I do know a certain someone that will be getting the card today & I will be crashing on him later on :toast:

by: W1zzard;924259

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yes we will have a review when the nda is up tomorrow at 12:01 am EDT

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ooh, so that's in about 3 hours :D

I'll be up refreshing the site to see when it comes, though I wont buy this card because I have 2 3870X2's and even if I sell them both now it would only = a single 4870X2 :(

but the performance would be much better! :D

We need a countdown timer :D

by: ShadowFold;924883

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We need a countdown timer :D

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i second that option :D

by: btarunr;924528

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NP, I'll be wide awake at 5 AM GMT, I'll press the 'buttons' for you if I could :)

To Do list:
- Publish the review.
- Deploy a platoon of moderators to keep an eye on the discussion thread
- Ask Zotac for a new ad (No more "Fastest VGA in the World")

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That you will be ! :laugh:

Wont you be at work or school or where ever you are at 10:30 AM IST ?

Countdown would be nice, i cant WAIT to see the reviews!!!

It comes out today? What time?(in U.S.)

by: CDdude55;924896

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It comes out today? What time?(in U.S.)

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depends where you are located in the U.S.

Eastern time?

should be midnight

by: CY:G;924898

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Eastern time?

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Ya.

So i guess it comes out in three hours. Hopfully the price for the 4870 comes down with the X2 launch. So i can just get one of those.

by: CDdude55;924901

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So i guess it comes out in three hours.

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2 hours 15 minutes :D

by: CDdude55;924901

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So i guess it comes out in three hours.

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isn't it closer to 2 hours? (EDT, as per Wizzard's post, is Eastern Daylight Time...i.e. GMT-4)

While you guys are anticipating the 4870 X2, i am anticipating the price going down for the regular 4870.:)

by: mk_ln;924903

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isn't it closer to 2 hours? (EDT, as per Wizzard's post, is Eastern Daylight Time...i.e. GMT-4)

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Ya, sorry i just counted the hours and not how many minutes.

by: CDdude55;924913

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Ya, sorry i just counted the hours and not how many minutes.

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Whats your budget for the 4870?? how low do you want it to drop?

by: CY:G;924915

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Whats your budget for the 4870?? how low do you want it to drop?

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Around the $200's is my budget(when i get some cash). But i dont want to go for it now if its going to drop in price. I would like it to drop maybe to at least $199.99

by: CDdude55;924918

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Around the $200's is my budget(when i get some cash). But i dont want to go for it now if its going to drop in price. I would like it to drop maybe to at least $199.99

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Don't count on that. If the price drops that low, people will buy 2 4870's instead of 4870X2 in which ATI have invested so heavily ( dual-GPU on a chip design ) .

by: wolf2009;924923

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Don't count on that. If the price drops that low, people will buy 2 4870's instead of 4870X2 in which ATI have invested so heavily ( dual-GPU on a chip design ) .

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Very True...

that'd be sweet if prices dropped to those levels...but i think that, by that time, there will be something else that blows it out of the water

UPDATE: less than an hour to go! :D

Oh man. I like the color! I need 3grand right now. XD

give me a non sticker heatsink pls, at least till the EK 4870x2 blocks come out

5 more minutes omg omg omg. XD!!!! I want one of these!

Edit: 45 seconds!!!!!!1

Yay!!

by: CDdude55;925048

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Yay!!

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It's finally (sort of) out!!!!

by: wolf2009;924923

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Don't count on that. If the price drops that low, people will buy 2 4870's instead of 4870X2 in which ATI have invested so heavily ( dual-GPU on a chip design ) .

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So should i just buy a 4870 at a price it is at now?

by: CDdude55;925058

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So should i just buy a 4870 at a price it is at now?

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Price will not come down due to 4870x2 , but gradually over time.

Selling like hot cakes in the UK now, the cheapest I can find is £375.......$725 :eek:

by: Tatty_One;925454

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Selling like hot cakes in the UK now, the cheapest I can find is £375.......$725 :eek:

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There is a sapphire on ebuyer for £354.98
Or a Powercolor for £344.98

Thats expensive.

Hopefully they hurry up with in the the U.S., there not on Newegg yet.

by: CDdude55;925466

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Thats expensive.

Hopefully they hurry up with in the the U.S., there not on Newegg yet.

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Not really, like I'm doin in all these similar threads :p :

$549 -> £288 -> £338 (inc VAT)

Hopfully Nvidia shows a GTX 280 X2 or something that will combat Ati. Maybe at Nvision 08 they'll revel something.

by: CDdude55;925486

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Hopfully Nvidia shows a GTX 280 X2 or something that will combat Ati. Maybe at Nvision 08 they'll revel something.

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I hope its not just two GTX 280 PCBs slapped together cus that would kinda suck. I prefer single GPU's really. Roll on the GTX300 series! :D

I guess this means that the 4870 X2 reqires PCI-E 2.0:

by: CDdude55;925502

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I guess this means that the 4870 X2 reqires PCI-E 2.0:

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No, its still backwards compatible (apparently). Im still a little worried about its power draw though, could damage some PCI-E 1 mobos.

That sucks, i guess i ams till just going to stick with the regular 4870.(which isn't a problems since i game at 1440x900)

4870 X2's are now on Newegg!!!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=4870+x2&x=0&y=0

by: CDdude55;925694

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4870 X2's are now on Newegg!!!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=4870+x2&x=0&y=0

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Wow, that took a while, now to wait for them to appear on Canadian stores :P

So much for the $500 release price lol.... :shadedshu