Monday, August 11th 2008

Evaluation of the 45nm AMD Deneb Reveals an Efficient Processor in the Making

Chinese website Hardspell conducted a comprehensive pre-release evaluation of the upcoming Deneb 45nm Quad-core processor by AMD. The Deneb core incorporates thrice the amount of L3 Cache (that's 6 MB), and uses the same SIMD sets as its 65nm counterparts.

Here's a shocker: While the Phenom X4 9650 (65nm, 2.30 GHz, B3) consumes 104.1 W at load (peak), the 45nm Deneb (45nm, 2.30 GHz) peaks at an astonishing 57.3 W according to Hardspell's findings, go to see, the Deneb has an added load of transistors due to a 300% increase in the L3 Cache size. Let's bring in some numbers and figures.

CPU-Z Identification
Version 1.46.2 and above of CPU-Z detects the processor except the CPUID string which the engineering samples don't usually bring along. The 2.30 GHz Deneb Part comes with a 1.80 GHz HT link with 3600 MT/s of system bandwidth over the HyperTransport 3.0 bus. The L3 Cache uses 48-way set-associative paths.

Power Consumption
Specifications of the test-bed are provided. The 65nm Agena part was compared to the 45nm Deneb at the same clock-speed, idle and load consumptions were measured (first chart: idle, second: load):

Benchmark Scores

Fritz Chess (higher is better):

W-Prime Multithreaded Benchmark (time, lower is better):

POV-Ray 3.7 beta23 SSE2 (higher is better):

H.264 Encoding (time, lower is better):

3DMark Vantage (CPU score, higher is better):

The test bed was configured as follows:
Source: Hardspell
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67 Comments on Evaluation of the 45nm AMD Deneb Reveals an Efficient Processor in the Making

#51
vojc
NOT BAD NOT BAD, i like it ;)
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#52
candle_86
as I said this will be a beast as long as AMD does some agressive marketing, if they don't it wont sell as well as Intel. You have to win over the hearts and minds of intel users.
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#53
OzzmanFloyd120
candle_86as I said this will be a beast as long as AMD does some agressive marketing, if they don't it wont sell as well as Intel. You have to win over the hearts and minds of average Joes.
Corrected, people who use intel use them because they OC forever, average Joes buy Intel because they look and say "Hey, it's got 'Intel inside,' see? What's this A...M...D? FUCK THAT!"
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#54
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
OzzmanFloyd120Which is 90% of people who buy hardware. I don't consider OCing as pushing performance as much as I consider it optimization of current hardware.

Edit: also every review I've ever seen (other than TPU) has given crappy little overclocks that really don't amount to anything. Pity really.
its entirely depends on the system and its intended uses. if someone is buying a system for high OC's, go intel (its easier, thats for sure if you get a low stock FSB chip)

if someone is buying on a budget the E2160 kicks ass for its OCability, but if they're concerned abotu warranty or have no intention to OC then AMD certainly has a place there.

its not like AMD are useless, its just that in most situations theres a reason to go intel over AMD... and some of those will go away if those new wattage numbers are true.
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#55
candle_86
I go AMD simply for the fact I can't afford top range stuff, I have a crosshair out of dumb luck, but my boards tend to be ECS or lowend ASUS boards that do not overclock at all. Its just a matter of cost, so for me getting the best stock bang for the buck matters. I went x2 4200 after the Core2 E2xxx line was out, as an x2 4200 EE out preforms them at stock and I have low power to boot. My 65w Windows rules.
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#56
Hayder_Master
what about overclock , and im wait maybe for some amd with 8mb L3 cash
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#57
OzzmanFloyd120
hayder.masterwhat about overclock , and im wait maybe for some amd with 8mb L3 cash
Err, if it's anything like the 2mb L3 cache it's worthless.
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#58
Winterwind
dont forget that SB750 lowers the TDP compared to SB600.
that test was done with SB600 mobo so Deneb and SB750 would
lower the power draw even more
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#59
Ekklesis
Let's hope AMD will rise again cause it will be a refreshing change...
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#60
Valdez
i wonder if they fit in the good old am2?
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#61
Ekklesis
Valdezi wonder if they fit in the good old am2?
All 45 chips tested from various sites till now are in form of AM2+ socket(it deppends of bios version offered by every mobo maker but it is advised to purchase an AM2+ mobo)... AM3 will appear in 2009...
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#62
Valdez
EkklesisAll 45 chips tested from various sites till now are in form of AM2+ socket(it deppends of bios version offered by every mobo maker but it is advised to purchase an AM2+ mobo)... AM3 will appear in 2009...
My am2 mobo is compatible with all am2+ chips, i hope deneb will fit into it too :)
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#63
suraswami
Hope ECS gets out a bios update for my Blacky board, then I will sure go for it.
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#64
PCpraiser100
I still don't trust Chinese sites, but I'll ask my friend's father who works at the AMD building (yeah thats right!) to see if this is true. I'm getting the phone....

3 minutes later....

He's on vacation for 2 weeks.
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#65
peach1971
Congrats, AMD! :toast:

Though I´d like to see power consumption for the 3.2 GHz OC.
Anyways, killing ~50% energy appetite sounds record-breaking to my ears.
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#66
peach1971
PCpraiser100I still don't trust Chinese sites, but I'll ask my friend's father who works at the AMD building (yeah thats right!) to see if this is true. I'm getting the phone....

3 minutes later....

He's on vacation for 2 weeks.
We´ll stay tuned :)
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#67
PVTCaboose1337
Graphical Hacker
ValdezMy am2 mobo is compatible with all am2+ chips, i hope deneb will fit into it too :)
+1. My M2n is still waiting for a phenom, but I minus well wait for a Deneb.
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