| Monday, August 18 2008 |
Intel is readying its first wave of processors based on the Nehalem-derived Bloomfield core which should hit shelves sometime this autumn. Meanwhile motherboard manufacturers seem to be in a rush to bring in supportive LGA 1366 motherboards based on the spanking-new Intel X58 chipset around that time. Intel had reportedly preponed launch of the Bloomfield processors till September. It was then known that motherboard manufacturers wouldn't be able to keep up and would take a little later (as in late October) to deck their shelves with supportive motherboards.
Bit-Tech interviewed Richard Liu of ASUS (read here). It can be read that ASUS would be out with not only Intel X58 based motherboards by the (new) launch date of these Intel processors, but also have NVIDIA SLI-supportive motherboards with BR-04 chips ready by that time.
Source: Bit-Tech.net
Bit-Tech interviewed Richard Liu of ASUS (read here). It can be read that ASUS would be out with not only Intel X58 based motherboards by the (new) launch date of these Intel processors, but also have NVIDIA SLI-supportive motherboards with BR-04 chips ready by that time.
Source: Bit-Tech.net
User comments
The cost of both the CPU and Mobo alone will cost you around $1000 or more. So i am not going for Nehalem. Hopefully when it comes out the Core 2 prices will go down.:):rockout:
Every one seems to be rushing thing up.
asus .... do not want ...
by: CDdude55;934213And add to that DDR3 for those who have not already got it!
The cost of both the CPU and Mobo alone will cost you around $1000 or more. So i am not going for Nehalem. Hopefully when it comes out the Core 2 prices will go down.:):rockout:
by: CDdude55;934213
The cost of both the CPU and Mobo alone will cost you around $1000 or more.
:)Where's that information coming from? I looked around online and it seems that the cpu's are going to be pricey and start around $300 range and up.. The motherboards are said to cost as much to make as the x48's.. I would imagine that one could still get an introductory cpu and mobo for around $500, with the higher end product ,of course, running up in the $1000 range.. But IDK, thus my question..:) It all seems to be around the prices I would have expected..
$500 is all you really need to go Bloomfield (2.66 GHz Bloomfield + Some $200 "value" X58 board), assuming you have DDR3 memory sticks. If not, it's not really something you should blame the new platform for.
you can get 2GB of DDR3 for ~$100
so the whole thing would be way under $1000
so the whole thing would be way under $1000
I seriously don't get the point of this. Why make 4-8 cores if games are just now starting to use 2 cores? I seriously doubt games will be octo-core ready within 2 years.
by: ShadowFold;934306Cause not everyone uses their PC exclusively for gaming :p For those that do....get a dual core IMO.
I seriously don't get the point of this. Why make 4-8 cores if games are just now starting to use 2 cores? I seriously doubt games will be octo-core ready within 2 years.
Yup! e8600 ftw.
For those that so....get a dual core IMO.
by: Tatty_One;934310you are right, dealing with audio programs it can be easy to use a decent amount of all the cores you can get. I can only imagine the benefits for the video editting guys.
Cause not everyone uses their PC exclusively for gaming :p For those that so....get a dual core IMO.
My dual core can process a 10 min video in windows movie maker in under a minute so I'm happy there :p
well i guess alot of tracks of audio + several effects + summing + virtual instruments + realtime recording must be a little more taxing than that.
I hope the Core 2 Prices go down. May get me a new CPU and Video card.
Early adopters are most likely going to be enthusiasts with money to burn.
This is not me. While I like to have the latest and greatest, I can settle for the "pretty darn good and reasonably priced"...
This is not me. While I like to have the latest and greatest, I can settle for the "pretty darn good and reasonably priced"...
by: ShadowFold;934306
I seriously don't get the point of this. Why make 4-8 cores if games are just now starting to use 2 cores? I seriously doubt games will be octo-core ready within 2 years.
For Vista. People who want full experience of Vista should upgrade to these multi cores for enjoying Vista and those who can't upgrade or have upgraded and still can't get a good experience shouldn't complain /sarcasm
by: spy2520;934386Exactly, especially video editing. I edit videos with SonyVegas Pro. Most unrendered videos I make that are around 7 minutes long with audio can be anywhere from 2 to 8 gigs. Compiling them on my quadcore still takes about 2 hours. Having an octacore would be great! :cool:
you are right, dealing with audio programs it can be easy to use a decent amount of all the cores you can get. I can only imagine the benefits for the video editting guys.
and what is exactly 'full experience of vista'?
I use vista only for one reason: DX10 :D
and for that matters, a dual core CPU and 4Gb DDR2 would be more than just enough :)
I use vista only for one reason: DX10 :D
and for that matters, a dual core CPU and 4Gb DDR2 would be more than just enough :)
Ultimate experience of vista- Bsod with extreme Aero effects /jk
lol in the UK its going to cost us double what it will in the US to build one of these new intel systems
a value x58 board LOL, they have features that the old boards dont what makes you think even a value board will be cheap
a value x58 board LOL, they have features that the old boards dont what makes you think even a value board will be cheap
by: ShadowFold;934306
I seriously don't get the point of this. Why make 4-8 cores if games are just now starting to use 2 cores? I seriously doubt games will be octo-core ready within 2 years.
Well if games are just now starting to use dual cores why then have so many of us had dual cores for so long before this?
The answer to that is twofold:
1) It's one if not the major direction that the industry has chosen to take. Perhaps some people would prefer to have higher and higher clocked single core CPUs over multi-core but this isn't the industries current working business model nor has it been for some time.
2) pricing can be a big issue. There are a lot of people who bought dual core 64bit capable chips that had little to no immediate need for either (no 64bit OS or 64bit apps and no multithreaded apps). The reason for this is it was cost effective and mainstream (AKA, not cost prohibitive).
If entry level Nehalem Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 chips do indeed come at or under the reported ~$300 mark that would constitute reasonable broadly accessible pricing. I would estimate another ~$200 to ~$300 on basic X58 based motherboard. Name brand DDR3 1333 RAM can be had for about as low as ~$70 for 2x1GB. So yeah, I'd estimate a ~$500 entry fee ~$570 not including tax and S&H to account for DDR3 RAM.
So its very reasonably priced which is key to adoption and accessibility. Couple this with being a powerful new architecture,….carry the one,…..cross multiply,……. Yeah it all adds up, these suckers will fly off the shelves!
Don't get me wrong, I love to play games its just not my only focus. I think I'll be buildihg one come Q4 ;)
I plan on waiting until January-February time until I upgrade to Nahalem.
My major concern is if they are rushing the motherboards that it might equate to a larger number of defects or larger number of quality control issues then what is typically expected.
It might be wise to wait for a board revision before buying but then again,…..
It might be wise to wait for a board revision before buying but then again,…..
anny news when Abit IX58-MAX gets released?
To bad its still only truly a quad core.
Having an octacore would be great!
The curiosity of the expected price gives me the shivers, anyway I will still be waiting for the P53, P55, and the G55 to be released if the price goes through the roof. And when I do, a dual-core will hopefully serve us well.
by: Morgoth;934541
anny news when Abit IX58-MAX gets released?
forget about Abit when it's come to mobos. they're just dead
kinda sad really
abit quited?
by: Scrizz;934276
you can get 2GB of DDR3 for ~$100
so the whole thing would be way under $1000
It's triple channel, dual channel kits do no good.
This is what happens with them, you end up in single channel mode (eew :p)
wow you people really dream don't you, the X58 will have twice the layers to build it compared to a high end motherboard now days to support the high frequencies. so expect to pay 300 low end (features missing) and 500 high end (i read that @ a few places am afraid) so the concept of 1000+ still hold
i think its 7/8 layers low end and up to 9/12 for high end (that's a guess)
i think its 7/8 layers low end and up to 9/12 for high end (that's a guess)
by: OnBoard;935024
It's triple channel, dual channel kits do no good.
This is what happens with them, you end up in single channel mode (eew :p)
Tri-channel is indeed a checkmark feature. However, a single stick of DDR3 should be functional. From what I have read dual DDR3 memory modules will yield noteworthy performance improvements over a single module configuration. And finally Tri-channel will improve performance over dual but not on the same magnitude as going from single to dual. So it looks like Tri-channel will be a diminishing return, and a nicety but certainly not a necessity.
by: X1REME;935202In my estimate I made room for flux between ~$200 to ~$300 for X58 motherboards. Although if ASUS is indeed first to market with X58 boards we may see some elevated prices due to the lack of competition. Prices often go up on new introductory products that are hard to keep in stock so it may go even higher initially (~$50 to ~$100 price gouging on the board alone if not more). DDR3 memory prices may go up slightly too in conjunction with increased demand in both the OEM sector and retail upgrade kits for the DIY.
wow you people really dream don't you, the X58 will have twice the layers to build it compared to a high end motherboard now days to support the high frequencies. so expect to pay 300 low end (features missing) and 500 high end (i read that @ a few places am afraid) so the concept of 1000+ still hold
i think its 7/8 layers low end and up to 9/12 for high end (that's a guess)
I'll still stick with the original approximation though knowing full well that there are a number of factors that could increase the bottom line.
I paid about ~$300 or a little more for my ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard when it first came out. Therefore it wont be the first time or the last time I pay upwards of ~$300 on a motherboard. I'll just try not to make too much of a habit of it ;)
A raw estimate of ~$300 on the CPU and ~$300 on the motherboard is in the comfortable range for me and along the lines of what I have paid for such a combo in the past.
X58 mobo prices shouldnt concern me.....after all I am a 790i Ultra owner :eek: I paid £225 for my board....thats almost $450US.......I think that will buy me a half decent x58, I already have DDR3 so just the CPU left......but hey, I just remembered......I dont want one!
doesn't X58 support single channel, dual channel and triple channel memory?
I red on maximumpc:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/exclusive_we_build_first_nehalem_system_dont_tell_intel
I red on maximumpc:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/exclusive_we_build_first_nehalem_system_dont_tell_intel
by: ShadowFold;934395process a 1080p HD video using Adobe primeir and tell me how fast it does it
My dual core can process a 10 min video in windows movie maker in under a minute so I'm happy there :p
by: candle_86;936138If he doesn't have a HD camera, it wouldn't make a difference for him.
process a 1080p HD video using Adobe primeir and tell me how fast it does it
by: nINJAkECIL;936134It supports DDR3 memory in single, dual or triple channel mode
doesn't X58 support single channel, dual channel and triple channel memory?
I red on maximumpc:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/exclusive_we_build_first_nehalem_system_dont_tell_intel
by: Tatty_One;936184I'm fine enough with dual channel as it is. Those photos show that the motherboard has 6 memory slots. If they support the same memory, this is a workstation motherboard that is installed with FB-DIMM memory. Seeing tri-channel in action will be interesting, but I suspect an upgrade in quad-channel later on if that is the case. Number 3 is the PC's unlucky number at most applications when stability comes into play.
It supports DDR3 memory in single, dual or triple channel mode
I think tri-channel ram is about as retarded as AMDs tri-core. Maybe its just me *shrugs*. Then again i was kinda late to jump on the dual channel bandwagon too.
by: Tatty_One;936184Ah, that's interesting. Then you can just reuse the old mem and buy some more of same stuff when it gets cheaper. Wondered why the early boards had only 4 slots but seems they still have 3 channels.
It supports DDR3 memory in single, dual or triple channel mode
by: PP Mguire;936843I think it's great. 2gigs is too little and 4 gigs is too much for 32bit. 3x1GB is perfect for most users in Vista. And if you don't want 6GB in x64 you can still start of with 2x2GB or go for crazy overclocks with 4x1GB and still have room for memory upgrade.
I think tri-channel ram is about as retarded as AMDs tri-core. Maybe its just me *shrugs*. Then again i was kinda late to jump on the dual channel bandwagon too.
It gives more choices and I'm sure that triple-kits will come out quite soon. Mean while peeps can just buy single modules.
The X58 support maxium 24 gigs ;)
Its just the concept really. 3? Seems it would go to quad instead of triple (since quad is already being used in Intel servers)
I think it's great. 2gigs is too little and 4 gigs is too much for 32bit. 3x1GB is perfect for most users in Vista. And if you don't want 6GB in x64 you can still start of with 2x2GB or go for crazy overclocks with 4x1GB and still have room for memory upgrade.