Monday, September 1st 2008

RivaTuner Creator Protests Anti-Russian Nazism, Bans NvNews Linkage

Alexey Nicolaychuk, popularly known by the computer enthusiast community as "Unwinder", creator of RivaTuner graphics card tweaking utility, lodged a strong protest against community members of NvNews for allegedly using slurs against his national identity. Community members of NvNews will not be able to post links to download RivaTuner as they are explicitly blocked by the author. Not that they can't get the software some way or another, but that it is more of a retaliation by Unwinder to contents of this thread, which portrays mockery against Russia and the recent Russian-Georgian conflict. The most recent license-agreement of RivaTuner now shows an added clause:
New license agreement explicitly restricts publishing any links to RivaTuner on nvnews.net homepage or in nvnews.net discussion forums. Russian software can not co-exist with the community tolerating anti-Russian nazism.


While the forum thread that had those slurs was closed rather quickly by the forum staff at the post count of 6, ironically, the same staff didn't find it necessary to delete those comments or the thread as a whole, or the thread that followed Unwinder's actions on NvNews forums that had posts of retaliatory nature with extreme personal attacks towards Unwinder. It made 198 replies without moderation of any sort. At least it didn't seem like the forum staff was doing its job, but since it claims to be a "fansite", they may have variable thresholds to trigger moderation. Some members even protested that Unwinder was making "Anti Free Speach [sic] remarks". Truly, the Internet is serious business.
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57 Comments on RivaTuner Creator Protests Anti-Russian Nazism, Bans NvNews Linkage

#1

Meh, it's a little silly. As for the political situation, the UN needs to stop warmongering - no part of it can afford a new cold war, not with much of the world's oil under Russian control.
#2

Europe relies very much on Russia for our gas supplies as well.
#3
devilhood
There is simply no way he can control the distribution of free software. Honestly, this is one of the most childish things I have read on the internet for a long time.
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: devilhood
There is simply no way he can control the distribution of free software. Honestly, this is one of the most childish things I have read on the internet for a long time.
It's not like he wants to control it, but lash out at NvNews community. Millions who download RivaTuner could read that license agreement and see NvNews mentioned there.
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#5
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
by: devilhood
There is simply no way he can control the distribution of free software. Honestly, this is one of the most childish things I have read on the internet for a long time.
regardless of whether he can control the distribution or not is not the case - the important thing here being that he decided to make a stand & made a statement/declaration that the world can see/hear. - it is a silent protest. (IMHO)

I dont think hindering distribution was top on his list of priorities.
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#6
HELLSPAWNPR
I can care less of that software. He can choke on it.
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#7
KieranD
one thing to say things about russia but to personally attack him is stupid

its not his fault russia and georgia are at war is it?

as far as im concerned heres a thanks for giving us this useful amazing program
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#8
DaC
If this community is making prejudice statments (which I don't know, because I won't look for it), about any country, creed or so on and mods doesn't take action about it's perfect normal to take this action of avoiding this community... he's not controlling anything, just avoiding to be part of a place that clearly don't like things that he care about, his patriotism.
Freedom of expression is one thing and is acceptable, prejudice is another and may not be tolerade.
It's the same thing IF I say "America is a dumb country for Bush election twice" ( I mean, it's just an exemple, I don't have any oppinion about americans presidents, it's America duty to decide the best one, not mine).... youy see... some may like Bush others may not.... but to make this kid of statment about American people is WRONG and is just prejudice....

So, don't blame the guy of getting offended by this kind of thing..
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#9
kid41212003
:laugh:, Silly.
I don't care who made it, It's a good tool.
Bucnh of kids, I mean they are just racilist.
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#10
Widjaja
Just because he is Russian it doesn't mean he must agree with what Russia is doing.
Just because someone comes from Germany it doesn't mean he's a Nazi.

Some people just like to start trouble on the internet because they are a long distance away from the other person they are insultng.

Chances are very slim of someone tracking the person down to thier house and beating them up.

So this is Alexey's way of getting back at them.
Who knows, there may never ever be another RivaTuner update ever again for teh people who use it.
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#11
devilhood
by: btarunr
It's not like he wants to control it, but lash out at NvNews community. Millions who download RivaTuner could read that license agreement and see NvNews mentioned there.
That is true, however, he is still labelling an entire community based on examples from two posters.
Has any attempt been made to solve this amicably, i.e. communicating with NvNews administrators and moderators? or has he just taken a stand because he can't handle comments from a few ignorant individuals?

I'm not entirely convinced that this license agreement will work to benefit him, other than bringing out the real ugly people that will suddenly see him as a target.
I sincerely hope that this is not the case though.
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#14
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
that vampireuk guy came across as a douche to me.
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#15
devilhood
by: DrPepper
that vampireuk guy came across as a douche to me.
The flag drawing was very distasteful.
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#16
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
by: devilhood
The flag drawing was very distasteful.
That is where he absolutely went too far, if someone did that on here they would be warned if not banned but if it was my opinion they would be perma banned.
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#17
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
If someone did that here, he/she would be banned, zero tolerance guaranteed.
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#18
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
I wonder if he gets away with that idiocy all the time.
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#20
Solaris17
Creator Solaris Utility DVD
I agree i actually dont see were unwinder did anything wrong imo he was walked into it bad taste indeed id like to personally moderate or administrate all of those members if they pulled that shit in my forums id ban their ass.
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#21
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
aye +1 on that solaris and by the looks of it he's been on that website a while with 12'000 post so he must get away with that crap.
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#22
devilhood
by: DrPepper
I wonder if he gets away with that idiocy all the time.
He's 24 yrs old as well, so he should know better. Very sad.
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#23
Solaris17
Creator Solaris Utility DVD
i mean think about it the first or second link were unwinder called propaganda from russia he was like dissing his own country imo he knows whats going on is rediculous it would be like me saying man this country blows thats basically what he said and he's russian the other guy walked him right into an argument that unwinder didnt even start if anyone can be victimized on the net id say that would be the deffinition. that vampireguy or whatever his vampirefreaks.com 5th grade name is is an antagonist if i ever saw one.
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#24
phanbuey
What a bunch of morons... i just EDIT (couldn't donate) $20 to rivatuner after that read.

Unwinder refuses to accept donations :slap:me. ... just assumed that you could do it.
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#25
Katanai
Damn. This just goes to show how some forums are... I've stumbled across stuff like this too, where everybody thought I was black because of an avatar. I've found out for myself how you're treated if you're not a white american by some of these scumbags... :shadedshu It's just sad really as nationality or race shouldn't be an issue on the internet...
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