that is the worse translation ive ever seen.

by: 3870x2

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that is the worse translation ive ever seen.

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:laugh: This is my favorite line, "Have to go on unstable or fart".

I wish I could afford Nehalem hardware, and the power bill from rigs with Nehalem :laugh:

I read all the posts and what I can say is I think you guys are missing the point. With all due respect this is a different architecture. This is like when guys compared the max 3.0 overclock of the AMD X2 clockspeed to the 4 and 5 ghz OC possible on a Dual Core Pentium Clock without taking into account that the AMD was more efficient and got more ops per clockcycle accomplished. At the same OC Which was better, the X2 3800 or the Pentium D820?

Nehalem architecture in general is better at getting the work done than the current architecture from either MFR. This means for actual computational prowess the 8 threaded Bloomfield is unmatched...when coupled to the right peripherals (low latency RAM, SSD Drives) it's well beyond what anything out can do in terms of bandwidth, op cycles, rendering, encoding, the real stuff..not Futuremark crap.

If you are into Distributed Computing like F@H and BOINC this kind of CPU power will give you permawood...until you see the price tag.

If you are into gaming the current platform is a much much better bang for the buck...and maybe better in general for the average desktop user...surfing for porn, shopping, posting on the Forums...only thing Nehalem would give you is e-peen.

From what I understand the way to OC the Nehalem platform is to set up your rig in a deep freezer :D....the microcode (depending on the BIOS) actually adjusts the speed and voltage based on the cooling and workload...

I want my wife to be Extreme Edition.

by: CyberDruid

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I read all the posts and what I can say is I think you guys are missing the point. With all due respect this is a different architecture. This is like when guys compared the max 3.0 overclock of the AMD X2 clockspeed to the 4 and 5 ghz OC possible on a Dual Core Pentium Clock without taking into account that the AMD was more efficient and got more ops per clockcycle accomplished. At the same OC Which was better, the X2 3800 or the Pentium D820?

Nehalem architecture in general is better at getting the work done than the current architecture from either MFR. This means for actual computational prowess the 8 threaded Bloomfield is unmatched...when coupled to the right peripherals (low latency RAM, SSD Drives) it's well beyond what anything out can do in terms of bandwidth, op cycles, rendering, encoding, the real stuff..not Futuremark crap.

If you are into Distributed Computing like F@H and BOINC this kind of CPU power will give you permawood...until you see the price tag.

If you are into gaming the current platform is a much much better bang for the buck...and maybe better in general for the average desktop user...surfing for porn, shopping, posting on the Forums...only thing Nehalem would give you is e-peen.

From what I understand the way to OC the Nehalem platform is to set up your rig in a deep freezer :D....the microcode (depending on the BIOS) actually adjusts the speed and voltage based on the cooling and workload...

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by: zithe

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I want my wife to be Extreme Edition.

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Thanks for the explanation CD!

ROFL zithe!

Also in regards to the G200, they are far from fail...my GTX280 smokes everything I throw at it, same with my GTX260.

To The Hell with the Voltages!
Just Put it on the market, and I buy one! :D
4Cores 8Threads Sounds Tasty! :toast:

ps: My Girlfriend is Extreme Edition! (Gorgeous+Clever+The Bomb you know where...) ;)

psps:I wonder what she funds on me? :D

Time will tell! :rolleyes: :toast:

by: moto666

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To The Hell with the Voltages!
Just Put it on the market, and I buy one! :D
4Cores 8Threads Sounds Tasty! :toast:

ps: My Girlfriend is Extreme Edition! (Gorgeous+Clever+The Bomb you know where...) ;)

psps:I wonder what she funds on me? :D

Time will tell! :rolleyes: :toast:

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I bet your girlfriend takes 12v to run :p

"I bet your girlfriend takes 12v to run"

Yes Yes 12V and a lot of air to fill it!

:slap:

But Hey I think You Boyfriend don't mine if you try it for once!
You Know with a Girl! (possibly with a living one) :D

:nutkick:

If the Nehalem is a letdown, it'll just be because of one of two things (or maybe both):

1) Intel feels like it doesn't really have to try too hard since AMD is kinda crappy right now. If the Nehalem can't overclock, big deal -- people will still buy it.

2) These are still growing pains that Intel has to work out -- this is their first design with an integrated memory controller.

I wonder if vmem = vcore + vmch

Voltage does not necessarily translate to heat. The move to better conductive materials in the chips reduces heat output with the same voltage input. So, 1.7 V may not be as hot as we may think.

4x AA batterys does my wife good.

i guess you cant satisfy her:confused:

by: TheGuruStud

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I can't believe you just linked to anand. :shadedshu
That's sad.

And BTW, if that's real, apparently you missed the other 5,000 games that the geforces excel at.

And at that res (that no one will play at or use AA), it just makes it even more irrelevant.

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And what is so bad about Anandtech?
A lot of people play at that res and use AA. Since the new radeons virtually give you free AA, why NOT use it? *rolls eyes*
Sure, GT200 is far from fail, but please don't be oblivious to how much ATi has caught up to nvidia's slacking off.
Stop being a nvidia fanboy.

Back on topic.

1.7v imo is way too high. Let's just hope its due to being an ES or something!

by: Disruptor4

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And what is so bad about Anandtech?
A lot of people play at that res and use AA. Since the new radeons virtually give you free AA, why NOT use it? *rolls eyes*
Sure, GT200 is far from fail, but please don't be oblivious to how much ATi has caught up to nvidia's slacking off.
Stop being a nvidia fanboy.

Back on topic.

1.7v imo is way too high. Let's just hope its due to being an ES or something!

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Anand is a joke. He skews results for whomever is paying or whomever he likes. I can't say for sure if he does it with video, but the CPU bullshit is enough for me.

And by a lot, you mean .1 % of gamers? 1920x1200 is still marginal. Being at the bottom end of playable framerate at that res, you're going to need any extra fps and how exactly are you going to see any jaggies at that res?

Good call on the fanboy, I mean, I totally hate ATI/AMD. Riiiight. ATI had bad drivers for a looooooooong time. They turned me off. Nvidia has been flawless for me (chipsets included). There's no reason for me to switch, that's why I have one.

by: TheGuruStud

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Anand is a joke. He skews results for whomever is paying or whomever he likes. I can't say for sure if he does it with video, but the CPU bullshit is enough for me.

And by a lot, you mean .1 % of gamers? 1920x1200 is still marginal. At the bottom end of playable framerate at that res, you're going to need any extra fps and how exactly are you going to see any jaggies at that res?

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I see your sly attempt to hijack this thread and raise you keep it on topic because your instigating a fanboy flame-war.

I think this sort of thing is all in fun as we all want to know more about new toys! I don't care the source right now because the numbers are interesting if true or smudged. To think this thing at 1.7v can hit 4.3ghz doesn't impress me but shows me that the architecture must be meant for something other than speed. Vantage was a horrible test for the cpu :shadedshu-- We all know duals and enthusiasts with nice quads will hold the crown for gaming in this coming year, but the industry might have a need for all of this multi-threading. I know someone who works in 3D design who is very excited about this because in Feb he's due to upgrade. Maybe, if he wants, he can hit a cool 3.6ghz on a significantly lower voltage!

by: zithe

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I want my wife to be Extreme Edition.

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HAHAHA!! That made me LOL! :laugh:

i think we see for gaming cpu , but if you comparing with last core2 cpu , not impressive