| Thursday, October 30 2008 |
Denmark's Danamics LM10 CPU cooler, the world's first commercially available liquid metal-based processor cooler, was reported today to have received a release date. The LM10 will land in Europe as of November 17th, but it will come in limited quantities. Outside of Europe, Danamics is still awaiting approval of its liquid metal-based technology, and after one is obtained the company can start selling.
Recently, Danamics engineers claimed to have developed a CPU cooler that will put to shame every air cooling solution available and most of the current water cooling kits. The LM10 has no moving parts and an unlimited mean time between failures. Inside is a yet-to-be-named liquid metal that's said to provide superior thermo physical properties and is circulated without moving parts thanks to a built-in electromagnetic pump. Expect more information next week.
Source: HEXUS.net
Recently, Danamics engineers claimed to have developed a CPU cooler that will put to shame every air cooling solution available and most of the current water cooling kits. The LM10 has no moving parts and an unlimited mean time between failures. Inside is a yet-to-be-named liquid metal that's said to provide superior thermo physical properties and is circulated without moving parts thanks to a built-in electromagnetic pump. Expect more information next week.
Source: HEXUS.net
User comments
If this works as good as they say, I will have one!
This could also be adapted for memory cooling too...
This could also be adapted for memory cooling too...
This should help clear some things up
http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2005/08/04/liquid-metal-is-so-cool-it-may-be-on-ice
http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2005/08/04/liquid-metal-is-so-cool-it-may-be-on-ice
by: erockerGallium and Indium
Now I'm curious. What is inside that thing? I was thinking mercury...
by: Woody112thats from 2005 buddy
Gallium and Indium
by: panchomanyes I know. Did you read it, I posted it because it gives a good explanation of what liquid metal technology is, how it works and efficency.
thats from 2005 buddy
by: [I.R.A]_FBiHeh, that's before I've joined (although I did read here before writing). Has taken them quite a while to get first product ready, hope it performs good and sells well.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=3105
metals can be molten in mercury, i'll have to look up wiki to find out how this exactly works
EDIT: i got beaten to it... it's not Hg
EDIT: i got beaten to it... it's not Hg
by: panchomanIts prolly mercury so unless you crack it open and find it a good idea to drink a silver liquid that moves on its own then you deserve what happens.
we can atleast conclude something about the liquid metal: theres some sort of hazard, its magnetic, and can stay in liquid form under standard temperature.
Thermalright will probably make something similar ... then one that is copper and weighs more than pluto and charge twice the price of the moon.
Look everyone this crap is simple. ;) The metals being used is gallium and indium, mixing the two gives the metals a low melting point of 10-15c as gallium has a melting point of like 30c alone. Having metal as liquid means you don't need an actual pump. Magnetic politary can be used to move the liquid through the system. Thats it nothing else to it.
MERCURY IS NOT BEING USED IN THIS COOLER!!!!:shadedshu SO PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP MERCURY!!!
OK I'm done:D
MERCURY IS NOT BEING USED IN THIS COOLER!!!!:shadedshu SO PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP MERCURY!!!
OK I'm done:D
by: Woody112How do you know it isn't mercury, Anyway it says it puts water to shame so it must be about 10 - 15 degrees wouldn't it solidify but then again it would heat up then cool down.
Look everyone this crap is simple. ;) The metals being used is gallium and indium, mixing the two gives the metals a low melting point of 10-15c as gallium has a melting point of like 30c alone. Having metal as liquid means you don't need an actual pump. Magnetic politary can be used to move the liquid through the system. Thats it nothing else to it.
MERCURY IS NOT BEING USED IN THIS COOLER!!!!:shadedshu SO PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP MERCURY!!!
OK I'm done:D
Gallium and indium have been used for a very long time in nuclear reactors. As technology advanced other uses were found and as [IRA] FBI pointed out it started to find its way into the computer world to aid in cooling. Then I showed the thread earlier that it was actually used on a GFX card to cool but was never put into production in 2005, which was probably due to cost back then.
Mercury is not the only liquid based metal out their, just the most widely know liquid based metal.
Mercury is not the only liquid based metal out their, just the most widely know liquid based metal.
by: Woody112Everyone suggest mercury because its one of the only two elements that are liquid at room temperature e.g 24 degrees.
Gallium and indium have been used for a very long time in nuclear reactors. As technology advanced other uses were found and as [IRA] FBI pointed out it started to find its way into the computer world to aid in cooling. Then I showed the thread earlier that it was actually used on a GFX card to cool but was never put into production in 2005, which was probably due to cost back then.
Mercury is not the only liquid based metal out their, just the most widely know liquid based metal.
http://www.minormetals.com/charts.aspx?mode=ga
So Gallium is $500 for 1kg, wonder how many coolers they can make of it. It's a bit heavier than copper so that doesn't help to get more. This might be very expensive after all :( 5 pipes, if it's 10 grams of the stuff in one of them, it's already $25 minimum.
"The current price for 1 gram gallium of 99.9999% purity seems to be at about US $15.00." Hope they don't have to use this stuff :D
"As recently as October 2000, the spot price of gallium was $550/kg; by March 2001 this had risen to $2000/kg, and exceeded $4000/kg in May." In 2001 they found some big gallium concentration, might have helpt with the development: http://compoundsemiconductor.net/cws/article/magazine/11632
So Gallium is $500 for 1kg, wonder how many coolers they can make of it. It's a bit heavier than copper so that doesn't help to get more. This might be very expensive after all :( 5 pipes, if it's 10 grams of the stuff in one of them, it's already $25 minimum.
"The current price for 1 gram gallium of 99.9999% purity seems to be at about US $15.00." Hope they don't have to use this stuff :D
"As recently as October 2000, the spot price of gallium was $550/kg; by March 2001 this had risen to $2000/kg, and exceeded $4000/kg in May." In 2001 they found some big gallium concentration, might have helpt with the development: http://compoundsemiconductor.net/cws/article/magazine/11632
Read the second paragraph, last sentence.
http://education.jlab.org/itselemental/ele049.html
http://education.jlab.org/itselemental/ele049.html
by: Woody112I guess it also has better thermal conductivity compared to mercury.
Read the second paragraph, last sentence.
http://education.jlab.org/itselemental/ele049.html
by: CrAsHnBuRnXpInstalling it might :0
Wonder if it could prove to be a health hazard?
by: newconroeraye if you eat it that is or when the power is still on :laugh:
Installing it might :0
Oh and I've got a feeling this will be far more expensive than any available air coolers but just cheaper than a good water cooling setup.
DrPepper, afaik you dont need to drink mercury for it to be fatal for you, it just needs to touch your skin and your *bleep*'d.
I could be wrong, but that was how hazardous it would be. Although I believe it won't contain mercury, and that itd be gallium with maybe ferrofluid or somthing.
I could be wrong, but that was how hazardous it would be. Although I believe it won't contain mercury, and that itd be gallium with maybe ferrofluid or somthing.
by: qwerty_leshI've never touched mercury so idk I assumed it would be fatal if you drank it though.
DrPepper, afaik you dont need to drink mercury for it to be fatal for you, it just needs to touch your skin and your *bleep*'d.
I could be wrong, but that was how hazardous it would be. Although I believe it won't contain mercury, and that itd be gallium with maybe ferrofluid or somthing.
by: DrPepperJust did a quick search and came up with this, as I was curious too.
I've never touched mercury so idk I assumed it would be fatal if you drank it though.
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem00/chem00156.htm
hmm *note to self ... don't play with mercury* Anyway its cheaper to make it out of gallium/indium because they are cheaper, mercury is about $600 a flask.
I'll wait for the reviews. Comments like "It will put to shame..." always throw up red flags in my book.
Electro magnetic pump - hmmm - very interesting. Mercury is diamagnetic....
Diamagnetism is the property of an object which causes it to create a magnetic field in opposition of an externally applied magnetic field, thus causing a repulsive effect
Check this link:http://danamics.com/technology/benefits.aspx
Diamagnetism is the property of an object which causes it to create a magnetic field in opposition of an externally applied magnetic field, thus causing a repulsive effect
Check this link:http://danamics.com/technology/benefits.aspx
Bigger pic,loks about 92mm fan size to me.
