temps dont get that hot. someone is just trying to get you to not buy the new stuff.

thats the reason alot of ppl bitch. they cant afford it so they have to make themself feel good by convincing everyone else the new stuff sucks.

temps are a bit hotter than core2 but WTF did you expect? the bloomfield die is 3x the size of a 45nm dualcore die. it's going to put off some heat whether you like it or not.

if you dont like the price, heat, overclockability or anything about i7/x58 then keep your current setup and stop complaining. stop trying to convince other people to not get the new hardware if they want to.

bahahahhhhahahaaaahaha

by: fitseries3

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the p6t is ugly and doesnt allow for 3 dual slot cards. god i hate the looks of that board... i'd break it in half.

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I only chose it because it was possible to make a comparison: same items on both stores.

by: fitseries3

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the NB heatsink looks like total garbage! p6t that is.

the foxconn offerings wont alow for more than 2 dual slot cards either. and i dont know anyone who's gonna run 4 4850's on one. they do have a good look to them though.

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As far as i know, foxconn isn't available in Portugal: @ least not @ that store or any that i know of, for that matter.

@ present, there aren't many i7 boards available, here in Portugal.

by: farlex85

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They really are, every item I have price-checked in the last month or so (not that many, but still) has been cheapest at Microcenter.

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not when you add tax

by: fitseries3

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temps dont get that hot. someone is just trying to get you to not buy the new stuff.

thats the reason alot of ppl bitch. they cant afford it so they have to make themself feel good by convincing everyone else the new stuff sucks.

temps are a bit hotter than core2 but WTF did you expect? the bloomfield die is 3x the size of a 45nm dualcore die. it's going to put off some heat whether you like it or not.

if you dont like the price, heat, overclockability or anything about i7/x58 then keep your current setup and stop complaining. stop trying to convince other people to not get the new hardware if they want to.

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Thanks for saying it, fit.

I can't wait to piece together an i7 965 system, personally. Then I'll have that for benching, and a QX9650 setup for 24/7 use. Can't go wrong there. :D

by: TheGuruStud

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No thanks, I'll pass on something that can boil water and make my MB flexible.

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Just say you dont have the money or that u are an amd troll. that way you can keep typing those ''jokes'' while i lol my ass off at you. :toast:

by: fitseries3

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temps dont get that hot. someone is just trying to get you to not buy the new stuff.

thats the reason alot of ppl bitch. they cant afford it so they have to make themself feel good by convincing everyone else the new stuff sucks.

temps are a bit hotter than core2 but WTF did you expect? the bloomfield die is 3x the size of a 45nm dualcore die. it's going to put off some heat whether you like it or not.

if you dont like the price, heat, overclockability or anything about i7/x58 then keep your current setup and stop complaining. stop trying to convince other people to not get the new hardware if they want to.

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I can't agree more man! Good way of wording it, I might not be the biggest supporter of the new hardware, but it's going to bring some very good things to the table and eventually I will be upgrading to the new goodies. ATM I'm content with my gaming rig as it performs amazingly and really for what I do the new stuff won't treat me any better overall, but when the time comes, it'll be worth the wait and I'm pretty interested to see what the TPU gurus can extract out of the new hardware!

If you don't like it, want it or care for it, fine...enjoy what you have like I am. But many forget that CPU's run hot, hell many freak out about the GTX200's die size atm, but it runs cooler than most 48xx series of cards! The risk of starting with Gen1 goodies is always there, but in the end, it's never a total loss! At least in my experience!

:toast:

If it runs hotter than my trusty 1.4 thunderbird, it's too hot.

And it's not all that and a bag a chips. Take out the synthetic tests and it's lackluster for the upgrades.

by: TheGuruStud

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If it runs hotter than my trusty 1.4 thunderbird, it's too hot.

And it's not all that and a bag a chips. Take out the synthetic tests and it's lackluster for the upgrades.

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You forgot rendering and encoding. It smokes everything else on the market in those categories. But at any rate, synthetic tests are important to some of us. ;)

Thermalright LGA1366 Bolt-Thru-Kit Retail BOX:

For LGA1366 motherboards
For Ultra Series and HR-01 Plus

$9.00 USD.

http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_page/product_page/product_accessories.html#lga775boltnew

I guess I should get it now because I'm too lazy to remove the motherboard later ;)


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LOL, newegg only has one LGA1366 HSF listed and it doesn't look like much ;)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835114080

and they want $39.99 USD for it!!!


***edit again***

Damn can't find those Thermalright LGA1366 bolt-thru kits in stock anywhere yet,....Oh well,..stock cooling here I come!!!
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/rmaccessories.html

by: TheGuruStud

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If it runs hotter than my trusty 1.4 thunderbird, it's too hot.

And it's not all that and a bag a chips. Take out the synthetic tests and it's lackluster for the upgrades.

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Synthetic benchmarks aren't just there for the hell of it. They are designed to indicate various arenas of real world performance. A chip that does well in synthetic benchmarks will do well in like activities regularly done by many users.

It's better than any other chip atm by a long shot, I'd say that warrants it being "all that," at least for the time being.

Got my kit from overclockers on saturday, dont mind paying a little more as their customer service is brilliant, which is quite fortunate as my asus p6t deluxe oc palm board is DOA (power led's are on, but on pressing the power button nothing is running (no fans, nothing)).

I'm waiting for next year to buy. I have high hopes for the i7 to blow the current generation away.

w00t time to sell one of my systems!

by: fitseries3

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temps dont get that hot. someone is just trying to get you to not buy the new stuff.

thats the reason alot of ppl bitch. they cant afford it so they have to make themself feel good by convincing everyone else the new stuff sucks.

temps are a bit hotter than core2 but WTF did you expect? the bloomfield die is 3x the size of a 45nm dualcore die. it's going to put off some heat whether you like it or not.

if you dont like the price, heat, overclockability or anything about i7/x58 then keep your current setup and stop complaining. stop trying to convince other people to not get the new hardware if they want to.

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fits you have to admit the new intel systems are crazy,crazy expensive and overkill to the max, not that I don't like overkill :D If the darn motherboards weren't so crazy expensive the chips are fine. I for one will admit I can not afford the new intel motherboards and chips. I will hold my judgment as to whether they are worth it for now but man they are at a premium.

by: trt740

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fits you have to admit the new intel systems are crazy,crazy expensive and overkill to the max, not that I don't like overkill :D If the darn motherboards weren't so crazy expensive the chips are fine.

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It's following the same scheme they have since core 2, so it seems reasonable enough. The 920 is priced about where it should be considering it's speed and newness. For some reason intel always seems to initially think 300mhz and a slight boost in multi is worth double the price (q6700, q9550, q9650) and for an even stranger reason consumers seem to agree. And of course the almighty extreme demands at least a cool grand for slightly better oc flexibility. At least this one offers a quicker QPI and some other perks. :)

Anyway, the 920 is about right, and this isn't much different than they have been.

by: farlex85

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It's following the same scheme they have since core 2, so it seems reasonable enough. The 920 is priced about where it should be considering it's speed and newness. For some reason intel always seems to initially think 300mhz and a slight boost in multi is worth double the price (q6700, q9550, q9650) and for an even stranger reason consumers seem to agree. And of course the almighty extreme demands at least a cool grand for slightly better oc flexibility. At least this one offers a quicker QPI and some other perks. :)

Anyway, at least the 920 is about right, and this isn't much different than they have been.

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I agree the chip prices are okay but then add in ddr3 and the average motherboard price of 300+ is crazy. I just cannot drop 1000 dollars for 3 computer components.

these are the x58 boards. we'll get P55 and so on soon enough

by: Mussels

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these are the x58 boards. we'll get P55 and so on soon enough

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I hope so because geez and power for the sake of power is cool but what could you really need it for. Unless you render alot of video and price per performance here is way out of wack, but I could be wrong we will see. These are going to be great benching systems.

by: trt740

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I agree the chip prices are okay but then add in ddr3 and the average motherboard price of 300+ is crazy. I just cannot drop 1000 dollars for 3 computer components.

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Yeah but that's really par for the course when you consider they are x58 boards. X38/x48s still cost a lot, and at launch their prices were also ridiculous. Once we get some mid-range stuff it should be better. DDR3 is actually pretty low, lower than I thought it was now. $150 for 4gb of ddr3 1333 isn't too bad, and it'll be better by the new year.

But yeah I agree the price of new tech is ridiculous, especially when intel is involved. But hey you can do that when your the best I guess.

honestly... i think the i7 920 is the only chip i would even think about geting. they all clock the same to every day users. there is NO advantage to buying either of the 2 higher chips unless you have extreme cooling.

as for the mobos....

there is a reason for the price.

until now, most mobo's have been made with 6layer PCBs which is affordable to most.

because of the complexity of x58/i7, the new boards required a new 8layer PCB that is rather expensive to manufacture.

i do agree that prices are a bit inflated from what they will eventually become in a few months but i do think you pay ~dollar for dollar for what you get.

like i keep saying..... i think people have forgotten what a new product looks like and what prices look like upon launch. i seem to remember paying $340 for a good set of ddr2 about a year and a half ago. i know the prices are low down but dont forget where they were at launch.

another thing.... this is the EXTREME setup. if EXTREME is not you... i highly suggest you wait for the P55/lynnfield platform. it should be about the same price range as the current 775 offerings. lynnfield will be dualcore only though as bloomfield will be quad and octo core.

all im saying is... look at the big picture here... not just whats right under your nose.

by: fitseries3

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honestly... i think the i7 920 is the only chip i would even think about geting. they all clock the same to every day users. there is NO advantage to buying either of the 2 higher chips unless you have extreme cooling.

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maybe, but don't forget QPI, uncore and core at different frequencies with the non-extreme chips which makes a difference in performance


with extreme chips everything runs at 3.2 GHz , maybe wrong







I feel like I have no need to upgrade to Core i7 right now, and should wait till 32nm parts come out as I am already on 45nm ,



but then




wait is the biggest b & itch .

in all honesty, i wanted the octo-core CPU but its not gonna be out for a while. the i7 920 gives me something to play with until then.

there are far more things to research and develop on this new platform other than just OCing CPU and ram.

Here's Indian Listing (prices up by evening) http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?categoryID=1371

The storekeeper, Amarbir Dhillon is my pal. Expecting 920 at Rs. 13,500, 940 at 21,000, 965 at 46,000 (?)

by: btarunr

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Here's Indian Listing (prices up by evening) http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?categoryID=1371

The storekeeper, Amarbir Dhillon is my pal. Expecting 920 at Rs. 13,500, 940 at 21,000, 965 at 46,000 (?)

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That's apparently like $270 for the 920? That's cheaper than here in the US.