Thursday, November 20th 2008

Phenom II X4 Overclocks to 6.00 GHz on LN2

During an event by AMD held at its facility in Austin, Texas, the engineers took an engineering sample of the unreleased Deneb core based Phenom II X4, installed a copper-pot for liquid nitrogen cooling, and dropped the operational temperature to -185 °C. They then jacked up the vCore to 1.90V, to facilitate a clock speed of over 6.00 GHz!

At this point the exact frequency isn't known. Cameras weren't allowed at the event, and so no clear pictures were taken. Earlier the company had released slides to its channel contacts, telling that Phenom II would overclock very well, and 24x7 overclocks beyond 3.60 GHz on air didn't sound unreal. At the same event, AMD showcased Deneb chips doing 4.00 GHz with air-cooling (with vCore set at 1.6V).


Sources: NordicHardware, Legit Reviews
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111 Comments on Phenom II X4 Overclocks to 6.00 GHz on LN2

#1
tigger
I'm the only one
Looks like the sales of big copper tubes will be going up :)
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#2
EarlZ
They show an LN2 OCing potential but say it should clock well in air , is that always the case when a chip does decently on LN2?
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by: EarlZ
They show an LN2 OCing potential but say it should clock well in air , is that always the case when a chip does decently on LN2?
ya, they showed 4Ghz on air
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Paulieg
The Mad Moderator
by: Para_Franck
But why is the overclocking potential so important? just release a 4.0Ghz stock clock already, even if does not overclock much over stock....
(Should I be asking this knowing that my X2 5600+ runs at 3.3Ghz)
It's all about the life of an enthusiast. Overclocking potential is king. :D
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#5
[I.R.A]_FBi
i think intel is going to get a beating in the midrange ....
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#6
DaMulta
My stars went supernova
by: btarunr
It's going down.
Best time to buy a ton of it:toast:
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by: [I.R.A]_FBi
i think intel is going to get a beating in the midrange ....
absoly i agree
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farlex85
All these ghz clocks are meaningless w/o architecture efficiency, which we have no indication of as of yet. :( 6ghz on the same phenom clock for clock speed still isn't that good compared to i7. We had some indication of how nehalem would do clock for clock this long before launch, I wish they would show us the same here, cause raw ghz is meaningless these days unless comparing the exact same architecture to itself.
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Paulieg
The Mad Moderator
by: farlex85
All these ghz clocks are meaningless w/o architecture efficiency, which we have no indication of as of yet. :( 6ghz on the same phenom clock for clock speed still isn't that good compared to i7. We had some indication of how nehalem would do clock for clock this long before launch, I wish they would show us the same here, cause raw ghz is meaningless these days unless comparing the exact same architecture to itself.
Very good point. I'm not expecting the new phenom to beat i7 in architecture efficiency, but even if it were reasonably competitive would be great. Especially when "high end" AMD chips often fall in the price range of mid range Intel cpus. I can't wait to see the numbers. If it's even close to i7, I'll be moving to AMD.
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#10
tonyd223
6GHz... architecture equality

wonder what my SuperPi score would be if I could clock my Athlon XP2600+ up to that without setting fire to the house - wife would KILL me...

and as for the ZX81...
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by: farlex85
All these ghz clocks are meaningless w/o architecture efficiency, which we have no indication of as of yet. :( 6ghz on the same phenom clock for clock speed still isn't that good compared to i7. We had some indication of how nehalem would do clock for clock this long before launch, I wish they would show us the same here, cause raw ghz is meaningless these days unless comparing the exact same architecture to itself.
you are forgetting that 9950 was almost equal to Q6600. and quad core penryns are not much faster.

So if P-II is a little bit faster than P-I, then it is equal to Intel quad core penryns. Maybe it will even beat them, thats what AMD needs to do.
Thats the mainstream, that is where money is.

Core i7 is not going to have a market share of 1-2% until Q3 2009 until Intel starts shipping P55/Lynnfield
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#12
ShadowFold
I hope the Athlon X3-X4 line OC just as good if not better. They have half the cache so they might need a lot less volts.
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#13
Pixelated
6.3Ghz under LN2 at 1.9v!

1.9v! :toast:
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#14
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
If Propus and Rana indeed lack L3 caches instead of them merely being disabled, there is scope for a good OC potential (reduced transistor count, vCore).
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farlex85
by: wolf2009
you are forgetting that 9950 was almost equal to Q6600. and quad core penryns are not much faster.

So if P-II is a little bit faster than P-I, then it is equal to Intel quad core penryns. Maybe it will even beat them, thats what AMD needs to do.
Thats the mainstream, that is where money is.

Core i7 is not going to have a market share of 1-2% until Q3 2009 until Intel starts shipping P55/Lynnfield
Not really, it was still a bit behind. And penryn is actually considerably faster than kentsfield. Penryn will also be able to be priced extremely competitively since at this point it's old tech. If all PII does is match penryn's performance, there still isn't much of a compelling reason to go that route, except perhaps novelty and amd dedication.

However, we do seem to be coming into a time where many enthusiasts don't need the power that the entire i7 line brings (gamers). So if AMD can beat penryn a bit and make the price super compelling, then many, including myself, will have a very good reason to go over. But I personally couldn't care less if it does 6ghz or 4ghz on air (my 2 year old 6750 does 4ghz on air no problem).
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Paulieg
The Mad Moderator
by: farlex85
Not really, it was still a bit behind. And penryn is actually considerably faster than kentsfield. Penryn will also be able to be priced extremely competitively since at this point it's old tech. If all PII does is match penryn's performance, there still isn't much of a compelling reason to go that route, except perhaps novelty and amd dedication.

However, we do seem to be coming into a time where many enthusiasts don't need the power that the entire i7 line brings (gamers). So if AMD can beat penryn a bit and make the price super compelling, then many, including myself, will have a very good reason to go over. But I personally couldn't care less if it does 6ghz or 4ghz on air (my 2 year old 6750 does 4ghz on air no problem).
But if that 4ghz on air translates into performance, and the price is right...I'll go for it. I've got an old soft spot for AMD. :laugh:
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farlex85
by: Paulieg
But if that 4ghz on air translates into performance, and the price is right...I'll go for it. I've got an old soft spot for AMD. :laugh:
Oh absolutely, my point was just that 4ghz alone means nothing w/o even knowing what 3ghz does. I almost don't like AMD b/c of the constant fanboyism they receive :laugh:, but if they do this right I'll probably have a phenom II next year.
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#18
jydie
by: btarunr
It's going down.
True... but with this awful slump, almost ALL stocks have been going down. :ohwell:
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Paulieg
The Mad Moderator
by: farlex85
Oh absolutely, my point was just that 4ghz alone means nothing w/o even knowing what 3ghz does. I almost don't like AMD b/c of the constant fanboyism they receive :laugh:, but if they do this right I'll probably have a phenom II next year.
i'm just looking for the same kind of fun I had with my 939 DFI LP boards and AMD chips. There was enough of a challenge to overclock them to keep it fun. Intel has been way too easy. Though I hear the i7 is a bit more challenging.
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#20
KBD
by: farlex85
All these ghz clocks are meaningless w/o architecture efficiency, which we have no indication of as of yet. :( 6ghz on the same phenom clock for clock speed still isn't that good compared to i7. We had some indication of how nehalem would do clock for clock this long before launch, I wish they would show us the same here, cause raw ghz is meaningless these days unless comparing the exact same architecture to itself.
yes, i also agree with this, high clocks dont mean a hell of a lot without the architecture to back it up. We already seen this in the P4 days when Intel had insane clocks and AMD had the superior architecture.

But we dont know what kind of revisions AMD made to k10, if it was vastly improved then it will be challenger to C2Q/C2D and may be even Corei7. The bottom line is that AMD still made a very impressive move, 6Ghz on LN2 for AMD is a huge leap forward, remember with Phenom 1, the limit was 4GHz, so all in all i'm very pleased to see this happen.
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#21
r9
by: Noggrin
Nice, mb now amd will finally beat the old Q6600..:laugh:

If its close to the 45nm intel quad-cores would be cool.. :toast:
That is so sad and so true :(
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#22
Zyrocenus
According to Neowin

According to Neowin the computer only booted at 6GHz on LN2. It was stable at 5GHz. Impressive none the less but where does the inaccuracy lie? Here or Neowin.... I'm lookin into it

Zyro
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#23
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Sources point at the same thing. They achieved a 5+ GHz clock, and finished their session with a successful 6+ GHz boot.
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#24
Gam'ster
Well done AMD, have a beer or 2 :toast:
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#25
trt740
well great for AMD but to tell the truth there is nothing wrong with the current AMD chips or for that matter Intel. They both can handle anything thrown at them and all this is overkill so bring it on. LOL
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