Thursday, December 4th 2008

ATI Catalyst 8.12 Beta Released, ATI Stream Now Available

It's already December, time for a new ATI Catalyst 8.12 driver. It's still a little bit early for the final driver release though, but a Beta version is already available, and now we know some inside information of what this driver will bring very soon. Here's a little sneak preview, with Catalyst 8.12 ATI will land its Stream support for Radeon video cards. The CAL (Compute Abstraction Layer) is now included in the Catalyst driver package. CAL is the enabling component for ATI Stream. Catalyst 8.12 is also said to bring Stream technology to ATI Avivo Video Converter, for enhanced video transcoding. For good or for bad, only ATI Radeon HD 4800 and Radeon HD 4600 series support this tool. At last, Catalyst 8.12 comes with many game performance improvements (read more below). Here's the link to the Catalyst 8.12 Beta version, the final release is coming soon. We'll inform you when it is available.

ATI Stream support:
With the release of ATI Catalyst 8.12 users can unlock the potential of accelerated applications enabling ATI Stream technology for millions of ATI Radeon graphics processors worldwide
ATI Stream harnesses the tremendous processing power of the graphics processing unit (GPU) for high-performance, data-intensive computations over a wide range of scientific, business and consumer applications.
ATI Stream enables the hundreds of parallel cores inside AMD graphics processors to accelerate general purpose applications. These capabilities will allow ATI Stream-enabled programs, for a variety of different tasks and from a growing number of software vendors, to operate with optimized performance or with new functionality.
The CAL (Compute Abstraction Layer) is now include in the Catalyst driver package. CAL is the enabling component for ATI Stream


ATI Stream application: ATI Avivo Video Converter:
Using ATI Stream technology, owners of ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series and ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series of graphics cards can take advantage of this video conversion tool (found in Catalyst Control Center Basic View) to achieve incredible performance levels in video transcoding.
ATI Catalyst Control Center – Noise reduction for progressive video content:

This release of Catalyst introduces a new advanced video quality control: Noise Reduction for progressive video content, which removes ghosting artifacts while preserving details of the original video. The slider control can be found in the All Settings page of the Avivo Video tab found in the Catalyst Control Center.

Performance improvements:
Catalyst 8.12 Preliminary Performance Notes
  • Crysis + 2-7%
  • Crysis Warhead + 2-3%
  • Devil May Cry 4 + 1-6%
  • Far Cry 2
  • + noAA scores are fixed for Crossfire configs; this is worth +20% on slower cards, and as much as 70% on faster ones
    + 5-10% gains when AA is enabled
  • FEAR + 2-6%
  • Left 4 Dead + 2-4%
  • Lost Planet Colonies + 3-10%, mostly in Area 2
  • Prey + 2-5%
  • STALKER Clear Sky + 5-10%, primarily on Crossfire configurations
Source: Guru3D, ATI-Forum.de
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81 Comments on ATI Catalyst 8.12 Beta Released, ATI Stream Now Available

#1
fullinfusion
1.21 Gigawatts
by: InnocentCriminal
Usually the release candidates do support AGP, the 8.11 betas did, so I'm going to presume these do as well. I'll be installing them tonight after work. If you haven't tried them out before me I'll tell you what I think.

:rockout:

UPDATE: Maximum disappointment! It wouldn't install :( I've now gone back to the 8.11 RC2 as this was the set I managed to get 9606 with - hopefully I'll be able to break that score.
maximum disapointment for me also.... about 200 points lower in pc mark06 using this driver.... back to trusty 8.10 for me
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#2
eidairaman1
surprised anyone gives a damn about a Benchmark like 3DMark.
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#3
Drizzt5
Isn't pcmark06 a separate benchmark from 3dmark06?
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#4
fullinfusion
1.21 Gigawatts
by: eidairaman1
surprised anyone gives a damn about a Benchmark like 3DMark.
Hmm...well for me 3Dmark06 has been a great program.... i use it for a base line for all of my gpu tests...
i have records from day one dating back to my 6400 amd cpu and single ati 3870...
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#5
Drizzt5
I think what he means though is that it is such a cpu benchmark.. more then a gpu benchmark. And he is right :/

Still, I like the program
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#6
eidairaman1
Actually 3DM06 isnt much CPU Definitive, because newtekies Mid Range Machine with the x800/850 vs my machine with a 1950 Pro i beat his, because the app is more Graphics Dependent, but ive always noticed 3D M06 being 1 sided and it seems it has been that way since the original program, thats my reasoning why should anyone care for it.
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#7
TRIPTEX_CAN
The Beta 8.12 that I have are working very well. Crossfire performance in Left 4 Dead is much better now and the minimum fps actually respectable.
I ran some tests in a lazy haphazard manor.. anyway you can see my results. I used various filtering and in game settings. H and VH textures are for High and Very High.

If anyone want a specific test done just ask. I have most of the recent popular games installed already.

Crossfire 4850 FTW!!
Catalyst 8.11

left4dead Single HD 4850 VH textures 4xAA, 4xAF --> No Mercy
Frames: 23532 - Time: 238919ms - Avg: 98.494 - Min: 50 - Max: 256

left4dead Single HD 4850 H textures 4xAA, 4xAF --> No Mercy
Frames: 25100 - Time: 226720ms - Avg: 110.709 - Min: 66 - Max: 256

left4dead CrossfireX HD 4850 VH textures 4xAA, 4xAF --> No Mercy
Frames: 34225 - Time: 264759ms - Avg: 129.269 - Min: 55 - Max: 255


left4dead CrossfireX HD 4850 H textures 4xAA, 4xAF --> No Mercy
Frames: 29384 - Time: 223811ms - Avg: 131.289 - Min: 53 - Max: 254


Catalyst 8.12 RC3

left4dead CrossfireX HD 4850 H textures 4xAA, 8xAF --> No Mercy
Frames: 25806 - Time: 175866ms - Avg: 146.737 - Min: 73 - Max: 289

left4dead CrossfireX HD 4850 H textures 8xAA, 16xAF --> Death toll
Frames: 41577 - Time: 228304ms - Avg: 182.112 - Min: 78 - Max: 296



left4dead Single HD 4850 H textures 8xAA, 16xAF --> No Mercy
Frames: 18207 - Time: 188728ms - Avg: 96.472 - Min: 54 - Max: 152

left4dead Single HD 4850 H textures 4xAA, 8xAF --> No Mercy
Frames: 17913 - Time: 183218ms - Avg: 97.769 - Min: 56 - Max: 171

left4dead CrossfireX HD 4850 H textures 8xAA, 16xAF --> Death toll
Frames: 22692 - Time: 221953ms - Avg: 102.238 - Min: 50 - Max: 171
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#8
Whilhelm
Is anybody else having massive issues with Vantage and these drivers. I started the run and all I got was a ton of texture corruption. Everything else sees some decent gains though except Crysis which actually dropped a few FPS.
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#9
TRIPTEX_CAN
by: Whilhelm
Is anybody else having massive issues with Vantage and these drivers. I started the run and all I got was a ton of texture corruption. Everything else sees some decent gains though except Crysis which actually dropped a few FPS.
I'll run it now (Vantage)

edit: just ran it and it was corruption city. Ran at stock clocks also... good thing I dont actually use Vantage.
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#10
Whilhelm
Well I am glad that it is not just me. Maybe ATi will fix this by the release date.

At least game performance is good.

They did not mention it but WIC got a pretty good boost.

Here are my scores taken from the in game benchmark.

8.11

Highest Settings, DX10, 16xAF, 1360x768
Built in Benchmark

0xAA
Ave- 45
Max- 103
Min- 24

2xAA
Ave- 44
Max- 101
Min- 23

4xAA
Ave- 44
Max- 101
Min- 23

8.12 RC3

Highest Settings, DX10, 16xAF, 1360x768
Built in Benchmark

0xAA
Ave- 47
Max- 109
Min- 24

2xAA
Ave- 45
Max- 104
Min- 19

4xAA
Ave- 48
Max- 111
Min- 24

All except the Min FPS in the 2xAA score are the same or higher so that is a win for me. :rockout:

It is interesting to see the 4xAA score slightly higher than the 0xAA score. Could have something to do with my fairly low resolution on my 37" 720p tv
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#11
Whilhelm
Here are some FC2 numbers with these drivers.

Cat 8.11
Ultra high, DX10, 16xAF, 1360x768
Ranch Small Overall average
0xAA
Ave- 60.41
Max- 92.32
Min- 40.92

2xAA
Ave- 62.20
Max- 95.39
Min- 41.01

4xAA
Ave- 63.93
Max- 99.23
Min- 41.04

8xAA
Ave- 61.17
Max- 93.14
Min- 40.35


Cat 8.12 RC3
Ultra high, DX10, 16xAF, 1360x768
Ranch Small Overall average
0xAA
Ave- 65.75
Max- 103.48
Min- 43.68

2xAA
Ave- 65.28
Max- 100.07
Min- 43.02

4xAA
Ave- 65.25
Max- 103.29
Min- 43.12

8xAA
Ave- 65.05
Max- 100.95
Min- 42.92

Pretty decent gains if you ask me. :cool:
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#12
TRIPTEX_CAN
Yeah looks good. I had the feeling ATI/AMD would release a performance driver soon. My scores for FC2 2xAA are almost identical to yours but @ 1680x1050..:confused:
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#13
Whilhelm
Sweet? I am just surprised to see how there is almost no effect on FPS when applying AA. In some scenarios the FPS is actually higher with AA on then without it. That makes no sense to me but I am certainly not complaining. :laugh:

For me it is most likely my resolution bottlenecking my results.

You have a huge overclock on your CPU and I remember reading somewhere that this game really benefits from fast CPUs.
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#14
TRIPTEX_CAN
Yeah my OC helps but I though this game more more multi-threaded than clock sensitive. It is official now though.... the RV770 is almost invincible to AA

FC2
DX10 Ultra High 4xAA 1360x769
Overall Averages.
* Average Framerate: 63.02
* Max. Framerate: 93.84
* Min. Framerate: 45.78
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#15
Whilhelm
Yeah I absolutely love the way these cards do AA. My old 3870x2 would get completely slaughtered when I turned AA on in most games.

What do you have your 4850s clocked at? I remember the ones that I had briefly were not too far behind what I am using now,
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#16
TRIPTEX_CAN
My 4850s are stock right now...long story short, one day I can run them @ 700/1200 and then for some reason I'll have to leave stock for a week or so..:confused:

I know what you mean about the 3870. I had a single 3870 and I was completely disgusted with it's filtering ability.
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#17
Drizzt5
Hey, triptex. I have a problem clocking mine too. I tested both sepretaly and one can do 800/993 and the other was able to do 700/993. I put them in crossfire and put both at 700/993... and they are now unstable....

I think I'm going to test them seperatlly again and then flash both there bios's, right now I have my older one back at it's stock bios and the newer one is also. I'm putting off pencil modding because I want to savor my setup now and don't wanna work on them for the moment :)
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#18
Hayder_Master
Far Cry 2
+ noAA scores are fixed for Crossfire configs; this is worth +20% on slower cards, and as much as 70% on faster ones
+ 5-10% gains when AA is enabled :confused:
seems this driver come to fix far cry2
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#19
eidairaman1
So Criminal have you tried the new drivers cause im itchin for a upgrade from 7 months of running 8.5 drivers.
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#21
James1991
by: Drizzt5
Are these new drivers expected to fix any crossfire issues?
with 8.11 it didn't even get to the desktop and it bluescreened. with these beta's the desktop shows until catalyst loads then it bluescreens:mad:.

slight improvement:shadedshu
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#22
InnocentCriminal
Resident Grammar Amender
by: eidairaman1
So Criminal have you tried the new drivers cause im itchin for a upgrade from 7 months of running 8.5 drivers.
UPDATE: Maximum disappointment! It wouldn't install I've now gone back to the 8.11 RC2 as this was the set I managed to get 9606 with - hopefully I'll be able to break that score.
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#23
Drizzt5
by: James1991
with 8.11 it didn't even get to the desktop and it bluescreened. with these beta's the desktop shows until catalyst loads then it bluescreens:mad:.

slight improvement:shadedshu
Had the same problem. Apparently a few people on these forums have 8.11 working for crossfire but I still can't get it to work. And, did you try not installing catalyst and just the display drivers?


When are the 8.12 drivers expected to be out of beta? I'm going to try my hardest to use the new drivers if I can get them to work with my crossfire once they get out of the beta stage.
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#24
InnocentCriminal
Resident Grammar Amender
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the end of the 2nd week of December, but as this is meant to be an important release I wouldn't be surprised if it'll be towards the end of December.
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#25
Steevo
I almost want to try these with GTA 4 and see if it fixes the occasional missing texture, and skip when it loads new textures.
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