| Friday, January 2 2009 |
Full-featured motherboards in the mATX form-factor seem to be back in fashion, with manufacturers gaining interest. mATX motherboards based on some performance desktop chipsets such as Intel P45, AMD 790GX, even the Core i7 supportive Intel X58 have seen the light of the day. After the DFI LP JR X58-T3H6, the second known X58 motherboard in the form-factor has surfaced thanks to an observation by one of our community members: Gateway TBGM-01 (as read from its DMI data). This motherboard from Gateway is for the OEM channels, and features some Gateway FX gaming PCs. It has been pictured in an installed on one such PC.
The motherboard features a 4+1 phase CPU power circuit. It features two PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slots for ATI CrossFire, and a PCI-Express x4 slot. Sadly it lacks PCI slots. It has six DDR3 DIMM slots for DDR3-1333 MHz memory. It features six SATA II ports, 7.1ch HD audio among other standard features.
The motherboard features a 4+1 phase CPU power circuit. It features two PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slots for ATI CrossFire, and a PCI-Express x4 slot. Sadly it lacks PCI slots. It has six DDR3 DIMM slots for DDR3-1333 MHz memory. It features six SATA II ports, 7.1ch HD audio among other standard features.
User comments
Many Thanks to cdawall for sending this in.
i think this is trying to say something with the lack of a "legacy" pci slot
Is that your board cdawall ? or did you find it.
No single PCI slot, no go!
4x PCI-E slots on an matx board is next to useless.
4x PCI-E slots on an matx board is next to useless.
by: DrPepper;1136543not mine i'm still running AMD
Is that your board cdawall ? or did you find it.
Reason they claim to be back in fasion is because they can produce basically twice as many of them vs full scale ATX boards off the same Platter.
To Answer your question about the 4x slot, RAID Controllers or Sound cards utilize them.
To me a Full ATX machine is my choice of most system builds.
To Answer your question about the 4x slot, RAID Controllers or Sound cards utilize them.
To me a Full ATX machine is my choice of most system builds.
RAID controllers yes, but all the high end professional sound cards costing several hundreds are still only available on the PCI format, the vast majority of HDTV tuners still require a PCI slot.
They should have ditched 1/4 PCI-E slot for a single PCI slot.
They should have ditched 1/4 PCI-E slot for a single PCI slot.
I wonder when pci will be phased out :p its outlasted agp and pci-e 1.1
by: insider;1136571thing is PCI IS a legacy port and all high end sound cards have a pci-e alternative as well as TV tuners
RAID controllers yes, but all the high end professional sound cards costing several hundreds are still only available on the PCI format, the vast majority of HDTV tuners still require a PCI slot.
They should have ditched 1/4 PCI-E slot for a single PCI slot.
Probably after the PS/2 connectors get ditched all together, ie not any time soon :D
by: cdawall;1136574
thing is PCI IS a legacy port and all high end sound cards have a pci-e alternative as well as TV tuners
Don't confuse consumer grade Creative sound cards with real professional high end cards, they only come in PCI slots and no one would ditch such cards for any new PCI-E version when they do become available, the cost of replacing them would be as much if not greater than the entire pc upgrade.
Thats a lot of power packed into such a small board! :toast:
by: DrPepper;1136572Ya i would of thought AGP would of continued to be upped in bandwidth and then eventually Dual AGP slots would be found on motherboards but i guess that wasnt a solution because then that makes the slots Graphics Only, which seems what PCI E 16 is.
I wonder when pci will be phased out :p its outlasted agp and pci-e 1.1
Yeah, thanks for posting this.
I've been wondering about what motherboards OEMs have been using for their Core i7 / X58 builds. Naturally they want cheap motherboards with perhaps some cut down features. Cost and size does matter a great deal to the OEMs.
So we got a look at a Gateway system. I'd like to see whatever documentation they have for this board.
I'd also like to see Dell Core i7 / X58 system boards and HP Core i7 / X58 system boards but I'm not sure if HP even has one on sale yet.
I've been wondering about what motherboards OEMs have been using for their Core i7 / X58 builds. Naturally they want cheap motherboards with perhaps some cut down features. Cost and size does matter a great deal to the OEMs.
So we got a look at a Gateway system. I'd like to see whatever documentation they have for this board.
I'd also like to see Dell Core i7 / X58 system boards and HP Core i7 / X58 system boards but I'm not sure if HP even has one on sale yet.
They Usually Rely on MSI for OEM parts.
by: Octavean;1136585
Yeah, thanks for posting this.
I've been wondering about what motherboards OEMs have been using for their Core i7 / X58 builds. Naturally they want cheap motherboards with perhaps some cut down features. Cost and size does matter a great deal to the OEMs.
So we got a look at a Gateway system. I'd like to see whatever documentation they have for this board.
I'd also like to see Dell Core i7 / X58 system boards and HP Core i7 / X58 system boards but I'm not sure if HP even has one on sale yet.
by: insider;1136579pro workstations use soundboards....its a way different setup with way different design not to mention X58 is consumer grade hence the idea of using a consumer sound card.
Don't confuse consumer grade Creative sound cards with real professional high end cards, they only come in PCI slots and no one would ditch such cards for any new PCI-E version when they do become available, the cost of replacing them would be as much if not greater than the entire pc upgrade.
oh and stop skipping around the point PCI is legacy its the same as AGP and ISA old and going away. Manuf need to realize this and stop bloody using it
by: cdawall;1136602Agreed, then it will push manufacturers to create pci-e slot cards which save space on the motherboard and allow for more erm ... stuff.
pro workstations use soundboards....its a way different setup with way different design not to mention X58 is consumer grade hence the idea of using a consumer sound card.
oh and stop skipping around the point PCI is legacy its the same as AGP and ISA old and going away. Manuf need to realize this and stop bloody using it
I personally have never used a pci slot in 5 years. My raid card is pci-e x1 and soundcards are often pci-e these days.
is it just me or does that computer have no ram look at the pic's i see no ram:laugh: i would not want that lol but its interesting
by: DrPepper;1136613once i convert all my MIDI music using the rendering of my SB PCI 512, i will finally move to a PCI E Card when Someone Other than Auzentech and CL have PCI e 1/4 parts
Agreed, then it will push manufacturers to create pci-e slot cards which save space on the motherboard and allow for more erm ... stuff.
I personally have never used a pci slot in 5 years. My raid card is pci-e x1 and soundcards are often pci-e these days.
by: Delta6326;1136785look in the third pic
is it just me or does that computer have no ram look at the pic's i see no ram:laugh: i would not want that lol but its interesting
just hope that is cheaper than the x58 matx from dfi
I don't see why you would go premade for an i7 system, you would know firsthand if you needed pci slots and build up one of these i7 beasts yourself, these are targeted (imo) for gamers who want the box, don't care wants inside it as long as it can play their games like crazy for the next 24+ months on med-high or highest, although I am surprised their putting 4850s in and not 4870's for a gaming system, but then again, 50's would be classed more mainstream I believe.
I think we'll be seeing more i5's available through OEM manufactures over i7's sure is interesting though, I wouldn't buy one however. :)
I think we'll be seeing more i5's available through OEM manufactures over i7's sure is interesting though, I wouldn't buy one however. :)
That would make a great little HTPC.
Building anything new wouldnt require a PCI slot. Everything new is being made in PCI-E, even if it doesnt require the bandwith. My current sound and tv cards are pci-e.
The only thing im using pci slots for these days are for the excess amount of network cards i have.
Building anything new wouldnt require a PCI slot. Everything new is being made in PCI-E, even if it doesnt require the bandwith. My current sound and tv cards are pci-e.
The only thing im using pci slots for these days are for the excess amount of network cards i have.