Thursday, January 29th 2009

Water-Cooled GTX 295 in Works by EVGA, Zotac

January 8 saw NVIDIA reclaim the performance crown from arch-rival AMD/ATI with the introduction of its dual-GPU GeForce GTX 295 graphics accelerator. The company used two of its 55nm G200 graphics cores is building this accelerator. Maintaining a dual-slot construction with its reference design, the card provides a fair bit of overclocking on its stock cooler. EVGA and Zotac, two of NVIDIA's largest add-in card partners, are reportedly planning water-cooled versions of this accelerator.

It is not clear at this point if the accelerators come in the form of merely cards with factory-fitted water-blocks, or if they come equipped with dedicated water-cooling loops. The two manufacturers will take advantage of the superior cooling system to provide high, non-reference clock-speeds to the cards' GPUs and memory. The new SKUs are likely to surface at the upcoming CeBIT event held in Hannover, Germany.Source: Softpedia
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18 Comments on Water-Cooled GTX 295 in Works by EVGA, Zotac

#1
Weer
These are always terribly overpriced.
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#2
Castiel
by: Weer
These are always terribly overpriced.
Yeah, its going to add at least $150.
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#3
Weer
It's not the price, it's the mark-up. They charge about 100$ average just for installing the god-damn thing, comparing to street/market-price.
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#4
DOM
naw i say $250+ for one think thats how huch the ones for the 9800GX2 where
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#5
pentastar111
Will most likely work well. Unfortunately, the price will bruise your wallet. Another downside will be the lack of driver support. The previous Nvidia cards (7950 and 9800x2) should have contenders in the ring for ALOT longer than they where...But nvidia comes out with a new card series and drops all support for these dual gpu monsters..:shadedshu..ie (1.) They release the 7950, then VERY SHORTLY after they release the 8800 series and it is like the 7950 never existed at all...(2.)The 9800 X2. Support for it vanishes in the mist as soon as the 280 series looms on the horizon..:wtf:.. Which was sad, as the 9800 x2 was a very powerful card... So far the 295 is being looked after alot better than it's predocessors. I don't know why nvidia does this. They produce a very expensive, very powerful card. Then a few companies produce "liquid cooled" versions. Then WHAM!..:nutkick:.. The cards are ingored and neglected like a rented mule or the proverbial "red headed step-child" and the people who purchase these cards are left with expensive paperwieghts very soon after they've purchased them..:eek:
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#6
DarkMatter
by: pentastar111
Will most likely work well. Unfortunately, the price will bruise your wallet. Another downside will be the lack of driver support. The previous Nvidia cards (7950 and 9800x2) should have contenders in the ring for ALOT longer than they where...But nvidia comes out with a new card series and drops all support for these dual gpu monsters..:shadedshu..ie (1.) They release the 7950, then VERY SHORTLY after they release the 8800 series and it is like the 7950 never existed at all...(2.)The 9800 X2. Support for it vanishes in the mist as soon as the 280 series looms on the horizon..:wtf:.. Which was sad, as the 9800 x2 was a very powerful card... So far the 295 is being looked after alot better than it's predocessors. I don't know why nvidia does this. They produce a very expensive, very powerful card. Then a few companies produce "liquid cooled" versions. Then WHAM!..:nutkick:.. The cards are ingored and neglected like a rented mule or the proverbial "red headed step-child" and the people who purchase these cards are left with expensive paperwieghts very soon after they've purchased them..:eek:
I have never understood what that support means. I can grant you the 7950GX2 never had good drivers, but the 9800GX2 has good driver support from what I hear from friends and even some people here in the forums, SLI profiles too, one of my friend got a replacement GX2 last week after RMAing (or was it 2 weeks ago? nevermind)... so what does "lack of support" mean?
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ShadowFold
by: DarkMatter
so what does "lack of support" mean?
The 9800GX2 is already EOL and I can't see the 295 lasting much longer.. Nvidia always EOL's their X2 cards too fast.
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DarkMatter
by: ShadowFold
The 9800GX2 is already EOL and I can't see the 295 lasting much longer.. Nvidia always EOL's their X2 cards too fast.
So it's EOL and what? People who have it can still enjoy it and is as fast as always was. As I said, they can replace yours if it0s broken, they have enough stored cards for that. It's wonderfully supported on newer drivers and SLI profiles. So again what does it mean? That no longer is the fastest card? That you lost the e-penis? What? I swear I can't understand.
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#10
Bundy
by: pentastar111
Will most likely work well. Unfortunately, the price will bruise your wallet. Another downside will be the lack of driver support. The previous Nvidia cards (7950 and 9800x2) should have contenders in the ring for ALOT longer than they where...But nvidia comes out with a new card series and drops all support for these dual gpu monsters..:shadedshu..ie (1.) They release the 7950, then VERY SHORTLY after they release the 8800 series and it is like the 7950 never existed at all...(2.)The 9800 X2. Support for it vanishes in the mist as soon as the 280 series looms on the horizon..:wtf:.. Which was sad, as the 9800 x2 was a very powerful card... So far the 295 is being looked after alot better than it's predocessors. I don't know why nvidia does this. They produce a very expensive, very powerful card. Then a few companies produce "liquid cooled" versions. Then WHAM!..:nutkick:.. The cards are ingored and neglected like a rented mule or the proverbial "red headed step-child" and the people who purchase these cards are left with expensive paperwieghts very soon after they've purchased them..:eek:
I have a 7900GS and a 8800 ultra and they are still working just fine with the latest drivers. Just because Nvidia or ATI are no longer promoting or selling a particular model does not mean it no longer is supported. Of course, eventually support must cease as technology moves on too far - hence I have no current drivers for my AGP Radeon 9200.
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#11
pentastar111
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i7-multigpu-sli-crossfire-game-performance-review/15

here is one example of what i'm talking about...If I'm going to pay what this card sold for, I had better be able to play whatever I want, whenever I want and in whatever config is advertised, without any issues what-so-ever. As far as e-pen goes, I could care less. I like being able to buy and play a game without having to look at the "hardware" requirements.
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#12
pentastar111
by: bundyrum&coke
I have a 7900GS and a 8800 ultra and they are still working just fine with the latest drivers. Just because Nvidia or ATI are no longer promoting or selling a particular model does not mean it no longer is supported. Of course, eventually support must cease as technology moves on too far - hence I have no current drivers for my AGP Radeon 9200.
keep in mind those cards are single gpu cards, support for them is wonderful, ( I'm still running a 8800GTS a 640MB first run card and a older 7600gt both still run very good)it is the multi-gpu's that take the hit eventually.
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#13
DarkMatter
by: pentastar111
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i7-multigpu-sli-crossfire-game-performance-review/15

here is one example of what i'm talking about...If I'm going to pay what this card sold for, I had better be able to play whatever I want, whenever I want and in whatever config is advertised, without any issues what-so-ever. As far as e-pen goes, I could care less. I like being able to buy and play a game without having to look at the "hardware" requirements.
The X2's have the same problem, just different games, it's not because the card is not supported, it's because it's multi-GPU, you have to babysit them, that's why I don't like multi-GPU solutions and thus AMD's strategy.
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#14
BrooksyX
I could care less how much these are gonna cost. I just wanna see them in action. Should lead to some massive benchmark scores!

Come on Ati, you need to get back in the game!
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pentastar111
by: DarkMatter
The X2's have the same problem, just different games, it's not because the card is not supported, it's because it's multi-GPU, you have to babysit them, that's why I don't like multi-GPU solutions and thus AMD's strategy.
I'm with you on that. Although, I've never had any problems running two cards, the multiple gpu-on-one-card solution just doesn't seem as reliable and trusty as the single gpu config's.
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#16
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
by: pentastar111
Will most likely work well. Unfortunately, the price will bruise your wallet. Another downside will be the lack of driver support. The previous Nvidia cards (7950 and 9800x2) should have contenders in the ring for ALOT longer than they where...But nvidia comes out with a new card series and drops all support for these dual gpu monsters..:shadedshu..ie (1.) They release the 7950, then VERY SHORTLY after they release the 8800 series and it is like the 7950 never existed at all...(2.)The 9800 X2. Support for it vanishes in the mist as soon as the 280 series looms on the horizon..:wtf:.. Which was sad, as the 9800 x2 was a very powerful card... So far the 295 is being looked after alot better than it's predocessors. I don't know why nvidia does this. They produce a very expensive, very powerful card. Then a few companies produce "liquid cooled" versions. Then WHAM!..:nutkick:.. The cards are ingored and neglected like a rented mule or the proverbial "red headed step-child" and the people who purchase these cards are left with expensive paperwieghts very soon after they've purchased them..:eek:
i have a 7950GX2 they run perfect now

by: ShadowFold
The 9800GX2 is already EOL and I can't see the 295 lasting much longer.. Nvidia always EOL's their X2 cards too fast.
they are really an inbetween card IMO sometihng to be the top dog wihle a new bigger card comes out
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#17
DaedalusHelios
Saying they have dropped 9800GX2 support is BS. People who say that don't simply go to look for drivers do they?

January 22, 2009 latest WHQL driver release for 9800GX2: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_181.22_whql.html


Products Supported:

GeForce GTX 295
GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GTX 280
GeForce GTX 260
GeForce 9800 GX2
GeForce 9800 GTX+
GeForce 9800 GTX
GeForce 9800 GT
GeForce 9600 GT
GeForce 9600 GSO
GeForce 9500 GT
GeForce 9500 GS
GeForce 9400 GT
GeForce 9400
GeForce 9300 GS
GeForce 9300 GE
GeForce 9300
GeForce 9200
GeForce 8800 Ultra
GeForce 8800 GTX
GeForce 8800 GTS 512
GeForce 8800 GTS
GeForce 8800 GT
GeForce 8800 GS
GeForce 8600 GTS
GeForce 8600 GT
GeForce 8600 GS
GeForce 8500 GT
GeForce 8400 SE
GeForce 8400 GS
GeForce 8400
GeForce 8300 GS
GeForce 8300
GeForce 8200
GeForce 8100 / nForce 720a
GeForce 7950 GX2
GeForce 7950 GT
GeForce 7900 GTX
GeForce 7900 GT/GTO
GeForce 7900 GS
GeForce 7800 SLI
GeForce 7800 GTX
GeForce 7800 GT
GeForce 7800 GS
GeForce 7650 GS
GeForce 7600 GT
GeForce 7600 GS
GeForce 7600 LE
GeForce 7500 LE
GeForce 7350 LE
GeForce 7300 SE
GeForce 7300 LE
GeForce 7300 GT
GeForce 7300 GS
GeForce 7200 GS
GeForce 7100 GS
GeForce 7150 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 620i
GeForce 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
GeForce 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 610i
GeForce 7050 PV / NVIDIA nForce 630a
GeForce 7025 / NVIDIA nForce 630a
GeForce 6800 XT
GeForce 6800 XE
GeForce 6800 Ultra
GeForce 6800 Series GPU
GeForce 6800 LE
GeForce 6800 GT
GeForce 6800 GS/XT
GeForce 6800 GS
GeForce 6800
GeForce 6700 XL
GeForce 6610 XL
GeForce 6600 VE
GeForce 6600 LE
GeForce 6600 GT
GeForce 6600
GeForce 6500
GeForce 6250
GeForce 6200SE TurboCache™
GeForce 6200 TurboCache™
GeForce 6200 LE
GeForce 6200 A-LE
GeForce 6200
GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
GeForce 6150 LE
GeForce 6150
GeForce 6100 nForce 420
GeForce 6100 nForce 405
GeForce 6100 nForce 400
GeForce 6100

Release Notes (v181.22)
Control Panel User's Guide

Is that dropped support? Nope. The 7950GX2 was a mistake but thats not anything like the new improved versions 9800GX2 and even more improved GTX 295.
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#18
pentastar111
by: DaedalusHelios
Saying they have dropped 9800GX2 support is BS. People who say that don't simply go to look for drivers do they?

January 22, 2009 latest WHQL driver release for 9800GX2: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_181.22_whql.html


Products Supported:

GeForce GTX 295
GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GTX 280
GeForce GTX 260
GeForce 9800 GX2
GeForce 9800 GTX+
GeForce 9800 GTX
GeForce 9800 GT
GeForce 9600 GT
GeForce 9600 GSO
GeForce 9500 GT
GeForce 9500 GS
GeForce 9400 GT
GeForce 9400
GeForce 9300 GS
GeForce 9300 GE
GeForce 9300
GeForce 9200
GeForce 8800 Ultra
GeForce 8800 GTX
GeForce 8800 GTS 512
GeForce 8800 GTS
GeForce 8800 GT
GeForce 8800 GS
GeForce 8600 GTS
GeForce 8600 GT
GeForce 8600 GS
GeForce 8500 GT
GeForce 8400 SE
GeForce 8400 GS
GeForce 8400
GeForce 8300 GS
GeForce 8300
GeForce 8200
GeForce 8100 / nForce 720a
GeForce 7950 GX2
GeForce 7950 GT
GeForce 7900 GTX
GeForce 7900 GT/GTO
GeForce 7900 GS
GeForce 7800 SLI
GeForce 7800 GTX
GeForce 7800 GT
GeForce 7800 GS
GeForce 7650 GS
GeForce 7600 GT
GeForce 7600 GS
GeForce 7600 LE
GeForce 7500 LE
GeForce 7350 LE
GeForce 7300 SE
GeForce 7300 LE
GeForce 7300 GT
GeForce 7300 GS
GeForce 7200 GS
GeForce 7100 GS
GeForce 7150 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 620i
GeForce 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 630i
GeForce 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 610i
GeForce 7050 PV / NVIDIA nForce 630a
GeForce 7025 / NVIDIA nForce 630a
GeForce 6800 XT
GeForce 6800 XE
GeForce 6800 Ultra
GeForce 6800 Series GPU
GeForce 6800 LE
GeForce 6800 GT
GeForce 6800 GS/XT
GeForce 6800 GS
GeForce 6800
GeForce 6700 XL
GeForce 6610 XL
GeForce 6600 VE
GeForce 6600 LE
GeForce 6600 GT
GeForce 6600
GeForce 6500
GeForce 6250
GeForce 6200SE TurboCache™
GeForce 6200 TurboCache™
GeForce 6200 LE
GeForce 6200 A-LE
GeForce 6200
GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
GeForce 6150 LE
GeForce 6150
GeForce 6100 nForce 420
GeForce 6100 nForce 405
GeForce 6100 nForce 400
GeForce 6100

Release Notes (v181.22)
Control Panel User's Guide

Is that dropped support? Nope. The 7950GX2 was a mistake but thats not anything like the new improved versions 9800GX2 and even more improved GTX 295.
Well, I stand corrected sir. lol
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