Sunday, March 8th 2009

Acer, HP, Dell and Lenovo Included in China Stimulus Program, ASUS Rejected

DigiTimes recently reported that four out of the top-five branded PC vendors – Dell, Hewlett-Packard (HP), Lenovo and Acer – have been listed as branded PC products eligible for subsidies under the China government's rural stimulus program, and as a result are expected to enjoy increased sales in the China market in 2009. However, the number five ASUS did not gain the government's approval. According to ASUS that's because the company market their PC products under multiple tradenames. BenQ was another company not to find favor with the Chinese government. Exact details concerning the deal between the listed manufacturers and the Chinese government are still unclear.Source: DigiTimes
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33 Comments on Acer, HP, Dell and Lenovo Included in China Stimulus Program, ASUS Rejected

#2
h3llb3nd4
Screw the chinese!! they're stereotyping again!!
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#4
PCpraiser100
China hated ASUS from the start, cause they have been getting pwned by that company ever since.
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#5
Caonima
Never reported this news in China,why?Can you tell me why?:confused:
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#6
kiriakost
by: lemonadesoda
This all sounds very political to me.
No there are not political ..... or if they do ... its because China is a smart negotiator .

Its the No1 Super power .... and demands respect & positive perspectives for the well living of their citizens .
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#7
erocker
Anything that demands respect doesn't deserve it. Asus doesn't need handouts, they know how to run things unlike some of the companies listed above.
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#8
crazy pyro
by: Caonima
Never reported this news in China,why?Can you tell me why?:confused:
The censorship most likely, for this they're probably gonna block TPU off for you chinese users from what the BBC says, if they're right I'm sorry for you.
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kiriakost
by: erocker
Anything that demands respect doesn't deserve it.
Interesting theory :laugh:

I bet that at your school , you were the favorite student of your teachers .. :D
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#10
Baum
i smell history in here! Asus comes from Taiwan! that's the "Republic of China" not "People's Republic of China" what we refer to as China
I think if the government chose to promote firms the look also on their origin thus Asus benefit is contrary their interest.....
Then may be I'm wrong but why got Benq nothing? oh there are from Taiwan too :-)
And why is acer included then? mhh may be because of it's size ...
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#11
crazy pyro
Nah, it's just out of pity for them since they're a cr*p company:laugh:
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#12
erocker
by: kiriakost
Interesting theory :laugh:

I bet that at your school , you were the favorite student of your teachers .. :D
I teach art at schools from time to time. I do not demand respect, I get respect through good will and the respect of others. You did hit the nail on the head though, when I was in High School/Elementary School most teachers didn't care for me.:) I never give in to demands. Sorry for the off topic babbling.

by: Baum
i smell history in here! Asus comes from Taiwan! that's the "Republic of China" not "People's Republic of China" what we refer to as China
I think if the government chose to promote firms the look also on their origin thus Asus benefit is contrary their interest.....
Then may be I'm wrong but why got Benq nothing? oh there are from Taiwan too :-)
And why is acer included then? mhh may be because of it's size ...
This makes a lot of sense.
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#13
VIPER
Acer is also from Taiwan. Benq is Acer, just another offspring of Acer... So nothing political here.

WTG China in not accepting Asux.

@erocker: "Asus doesn't need handouts, they know how to run things unlike some of the companies listed above. " Excuse me??? They know how to run things better than HP and Lenovo?! Have you ever thought that those giants have waaaay better RMA than Asux? Which is damn important for a government? They don't need fancy stuff or gaming stuff, they need reliable products!
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#14
niko084
I could do well without Acer, HP and Dell.....

Lenovo is IBM... They can't honestly say they are hurting, unless it's their drop in sales of Redhat.... Sorry Debian FTW.
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#15
kiriakost
by: Baum
Then may be I'm wrong but why got Benq nothing? oh there are from Taiwan too :-)
And why is acer included then? mhh may be because of it's size ...
Benq had lastly a cooperation with Siemens mobile .... Siemens go down and the Benq partnership lost .


Now i will in light you , just a bit .
I had see on the Greek television one film about China and foreign investments ,
its was a very educational film 2008 production, about what to expect if you think to start a large business in China .

They had many rules , that you have to comply with ,
and they do not accept sort term relations.

I believe that the new harder rules , imposed because of the blind large production , that created many bad quality products , that started to damage the Chinese face world wide .

For example in motorcycles , that i am familiar with , the government of China ban .. yes BAN the exports of 120 makers of cheap motorcycles..

And set new rules ... every vehicle that will exported from China, it will comply from now and on, with the EU & international standards.

I am not in favor of any country other than my , but the new harder rules that China imposes to it self , has one major reason ,
they wish to wash out the label " Made in China = low quality ".

And another thing , China likes any technology that is created in China with the cooperation of others Chinese brands , that does not need American parts .

All Chinese weapons , runs Chinese made CPUs and parts.
China likes to be autonomous and independent , at military and in the technological field.

Its logical to peek partners , that are willing to cooperate by their terms .
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#16
Ravenas
Dell needs the help... Dell is looking at a very bleak future as far as their financial situation goes.
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#17
niko084
by: Ravenas
Dell needs the help... Dell is looking at a very bleak future as far as their financial situation goes.
GOOD!

Those screwballs said a long time ago in an interview LIVE that they would "LOSE" money for the next 10 years if that's what it took to put every small white box builder out of business.

So the way I see it, PEACE dell, I will finally not have to support your trash any longer!
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#18
Ravenas
by: niko084
GOOD!

Those screwballs said a long time ago in an interview LIVE that they would "LOSE" money for the next 10 years if that's what it took to put every small white box builder out of business.

So the way I see it, PEACE dell, I will finally not have to support your trash any longer!
For one thing, Dell has lost all of my business, because I build all of my PCs now. The only thing I will buy from a manufacturer is a laptop. I'm not willing to invest the time in building a laptop, so I buy a Macbook. I think Apple/HP/Gateway have the upper hand on Dell as far as laptops go, or desktops for that matter.
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#19
erocker
by: Ravenas
Dell needs the help... Dell is looking at a very bleak future as far as their financial situation goes.
So wait. Why do they need help? There is a thing called supply and demand, when there is no longer a demand you can no longer sell your supply. Why do we need businesses that make something we don't want. Dell needs to help themselves.
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#20
niko084
Apple notebooks are nice...

Acer/Gateway/Emachine can be the next group to go out of business...

HP/Compaq... Ugh, I haven't dealt with their new ones so much but those erm from a year to two years ago were such trash, so many recalls across their entire product line.. Simply a disaster, can't in good faith recommend one of them to anyone anymore...

The only reason I don't own a notebook is because I honestly don't think any of them are built worth half a crap without so massively overpaying for them.
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#21
Ravenas
by: erocker
So wait. Why do they need help? There is a thing called supply and demand, when there is no longer a demand you can no longer sell your supply. Why do we need businesses that make something we don't want. Dell needs to help themselves.
If a company makes enough money to boost one countries economy on the market, that country will feel the need to help that company financially during a worldwide recession.

Dell will then have the opportunity to innovate better products (to compete with other companies) and improve their customer customer relations. Not everyone has the ability to make their own computer. Thus Dell has the opportunity to serve them.

Your view on this matter is very selfish in my opinion.
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#22
[I.R.A]_FBi
why subsidize a premium product with no discernible advantages over the other options?

i wonder about you guys ..
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#23
tkpenalty
by: [I.R.A]_FBi
why subsidize a premium product with no discernible advantages over the other options?

i wonder about you guys ..
China's decision makes much more sense than what the US government has done with their car industry. The chinese government most likely realises the importance of the IT sector and it does make sense to reduce the pessimism in the market in order for people to invest more into it.
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#24
Celebriton
China government try to help foreigner greedy monster company, like HP and Dell. Wasting people tax money for just a useless goodwill. Like buying many US and Europe product last month, wasting billions of US dollar, to fill the Europe nations treasure chest.

In China if I write a thing like this, it will be deleted by government. The reason is because the government do not want to develop a bad attitude among Chinese people toward the western. WTF? :banghead:

The western media always try to mocking and look-lowly to Chinese. Why not Chinese doing the same, right? I feel angry and unfair for it.

I think the government should stop to helping other nations, especially for already rich and advanced nations like US and UE and focusing to make his own people more productive and creative.

Giving money to already rich people is stupid right? The western never do the same thing like the China government right? We should learn from the western.

I think, I should open a computer company right now too. And the stimulus money for useless Dell and HP, should be given to me.:D...just kidding.
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#25
Baum
@Celebriton: your right but why mock "nations" please stay to government as i think your post might be misunderstood by many.

May be China tries to get it hands on technology? that's how free market economy works
and apart from that i won't bother about how well the it sector goes in a country where other problems are greater?
I have never seen people looking down on Chinese as we more fear them because of their quantity and workforce/ enthusiasm and hard-working, thus seen the competition getting tight.
That should be a great honour for China instead any thing else.....

Don't take the media (or uneducated) people as an example for anything, as i don't.
We're one world an all strive for prosperity, abundance, health, wealth and success, only pity is that there are more stupid people than intelligent in every country ( I feel like in my country more than in others as our moves are sometimes way stupid and we struggle over ourselves.)
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I thought they took acer in the boat as they are among the biggest sellers thus other would join their boat? ( overlooking their origin once in this case as it benefits the "cause" )
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