They'll probably go for the sliced gtx295.

hmm.. hopes this card can really perform than the new radeon

From our source, this is 50-50 right now. If the RV790 is closer to GTX285, there wont be a 275 but instead 285 will get a price-cut.

GPUCafeFrom our source, this is 50-50 right now. If the RV790 is closer to GTX285, there wont be a 275 but instead 285 will get a price-cut.

Makes sense to me. I really don't see the market demanding a card in the middle of the 260 and 285 especially at that price point. With the 4870's apparently getting another price cut, it seems as if the RV790 based GPU's will indeed be around $200 bucks. In this economy a 285 with a price cut would be much more welcomed than a new card.

I wonder how long it will take to launch this ... and what price it will be....

Can't wait for the reviews!!

spidertaker23I wonder how long it will take to launch this ... and what price it will be....

The price is in the OP, $225-$275.

Hmh GTX 280 is already there. Of course it's EOL, but this is getting funky. I was hoping HD4890 wouldn't be faster than my GTX 280 and now I must hope that GTX 275 isn't faster either. With full shaders and GTX 260 clocks it would be, but they it would be called GTX 285 and that is already out.

Kinda tight spot they are aiming at, high end has never had this much competition.
GTX 260 (192) 65nm, GTX 260 (216) 65nm, GTX 260 (216) 55nm, GTX 280 (240) 65nm, GTX 285 (240) 55nm, GTX 295 (240x2) 55nm and then this GTX 275 + all ATI 4870 stuff + 4850x2.

Nvidia has too many SKU's..
GTX 295, GTX 285, GTX 280, GTX 275, GTX 260, GTX 260 c216, and then the whole GTS and GT series.. Why do we need this many cards??

Meh -- neither one of these cards, either the 4890 or the 275, is likely to be anything special.

I'm waiting for some sort of freaky dual-GPU version of the 40nm RV740. Now, that's a card that'll scream, and be cheap and power-conscious to boot.

Too much shit is coming out. Its driving me insane.

ShadowFoldNvidia has too many SKU's..
GTX 295, GTX 285, GTX 280, GTX 275, GTX 260, GTX 260 c216, and then the whole GTS and GT series.. Why do we need this many cards??

Well first they released the GTX260 192/GTX280 to counterpart the 4870x2/4850/4870. GTX 260 192 failed hardly against the 4870 so they released the 216 shaders which performed a bit higher than the 4870. Then they found out that the GTX280 can't perform close to the 4870x2 so they released the 285/295. GTX 275 will counterpart RV790 the whole rebranding is just crap.

spearman914Well first they released the GTX260 192/GTX280 to counterpart the 4870x2/4850/4870. GTX 260 192 failed hardly against the 4870 so they released the 216 shaders which performed a bit higher than the 4870. Then they found out that the GTX280 can't perform close to the 4870x2 so they released the 285/295. GTX 275 will counterpart RV790 the whole rebranding is just crap.

You know, one day (and I honestly wouldn't mind this) the model numbers are just going to be simple numbers. No "HD" or "GTX" prefixes, even.

The Nvidia "17" will be slower than the "23" and faster than the "8," for example. I think it's cool -- kinda like a luxury sports car or someting.

Nvidia is a stupid

i was thinking about getting myself an nvidia card, and now, as a matter of principle, i won't because they have one (n-models) model too many. :D :shadedshu
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where are the times when we had three classes (low,mid,high-end) with 2 or 3 models at max for every class??

they could put the 4870 in its grave if they released a 240 sp card clocked 5-10% higher.

lets say a GTX260 core 240 (GTX275), running 633/1404/2200 would keep them clear up top and i doubt much they would have to worry about chips reaching these speeds. that still leaves plenty of oc headroom.

the extra shader cluster has shown those 5-10% gains themselves (192-216), and ~10% clocking will assure that stays well on top of a 4890, as it tends to beat a 4870 now. however the lack of ROPS, memory and a small sacrifice of speed keeps in nicely in check behind a GTX285 (which a 4870 would need a complete overhaul or LN2 to beat one)

AltecV1Nvidia is a stupid

Yeah, Nvidia is just jealous. I bet that ATI will price cut anyhow since they are first. Either way AMD and ATI are awesome now that they are finally showing effort in the market.

PCpraiser100Yeah, Nvidia is just jealous.

bulk lols, cos theyve got ALOT to be jealous of.... only prices imo, the products AMD offer dont have nvidia scared or jealous. they just undercut nvidia every single time.

PCpraiser100I bet that ATI will price cut anyhow since they are first. Either way AMD and ATI are awesome now that they are finally showing effort in the market.

some people say nvidia rebranding is sneaky, what i think is sneaky is selling your cards at a given cost, lets say $200 flat, and as soon as the competitions lands at that same price and performs the same, they undercut them!

of course ATi will price cut, its what you have to do when your on the losing edge. for all those who say that 48701gb > GTX260 and 4870X2 > GTX295 you are clearly wrong. ATi cut the prices to come in under the competition and its a clear admittance that their product is not as good. otherwise it would naturally sell for the same or more, and there would be no point in buying nvidia ever.

every company has something that we can facepalm at, but unfounded comments like Nvidia is stupid, and Nvidia is just jealous, where are you pulling this from?

@wolf
you mean ATi know that their card is not as fast as nvidia's so they cut the price?
but you said it yourself, that their card is not as fast as nvidias, that means i will definetly go ATi because im not buying geforce with much higher price for some extra 10 fps.
not to mention ATi beats NV in some benchmarks.

^thats the point, unless you hate the benefits of competetion :)

Salsoolo@wolf
you mean ATi know that their card is not as fast as nvidia's so they cut the price?
but you said it yourself, that their card is not as fast as nvidias, that means i will definetly go ATi because im not buying geforce with much higher price for some extra 10 fps.
not to mention ATi beats NV in some benchmarks.

^thats the point, unless you hate the benefits of competetion :)

of course ATI beats NV in "some benchmarks" but were not talking about the exceptions, on the whole the GTX260 already comes out on top of a 4870.

as per your price comment.... im at a loss, yes i said it myself that theyre not as fast, they also dont cost as much, works great for us as you always get value for money. for example the ATi card performs 10% worse but costs 10% less. nobody loses as you always get pretty much the same Bang for Buck.

making the choice very EVEN, not to mention NV beats ATi in some benchmarks. :p

"ATi card performs 10% worse but costs 10% less"
im pretty sure it cost more than 10% less.

It really is hard to choose. I wish I could pay monthly to get into some GPU exchange program lol

Salsoolo"ATi card performs 10% worse but costs 10% less"
im pretty sure it cost more than 10% less.

man its an example, if i quoted a real price it would have a link too. not to mention right now nvidia are the ones selling GTX260's at LESS than ATi's 1Gb 4870's

so are you here to try debunk my opinions and speculation or do you have something novel to add?

Great, wonder if anyone lost count of Nvidia product naming? I gave up remembering their low-midrange card because it's just a bloody mess. I'd wait for dx11 card because my HD3870x2 or your 9800gx2 @ 1920x1200res can pretty much handle everything atm. If you got anything less than that then I recommended the upcoming GTX275/Hd4890.
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