ShadowFoldYay, now more developers can not use it!

RavenasIf a developer can't use it, they are probably just as lazy as Gabe Newell.

alexp999IIRC, the PS3 GPU is based on a 7800, so afaik, Physx would have to run on the CPU.

alexp999IIRC, the PS3 GPU is based on a 7800, so afaik, Physx would have to run on the CPU.

It just gives developers more options, but I have to agree, Havok works great on games like GTA IV and Crackdown, etc.

ShadowFoldNo I mean, no one uses it on PC so why would they use it on PS3?

RavenasNo one uses it on the PC because you have to have a seperate card to use it. The majority of people with PCs buy them from a manufacturer such as Dell... Dell (and other companies like Dell) usually don't give the option to install a physics card, thus the mainstream consumer doesn't have physics because their MOBOs are properitary.

As far as physics for us go, most people on these forums care more about benches, and physics cards don't really help with that... Plus you have to buy a seperate card, or dedicate one of your old cards to it.

RavenasNo one uses it on the PC because you have to have a seperate card to use it. The majority of people with PCs buy them from a manufacturer such as Dell... Dell (and other companies like Dell) usually don't give the option to install a physics card, thus the mainstream consumer doesn't have physics because their MOBOs are properitary.

As far as physics for us go, most people on these forums care more about benches, and physics cards don't really help with that... Plus you have to buy a seperate card, or dedicate one of your old cards to it.

RavenasIf a developer can't use it, they are probably just as lazy as Gabe Newell.

AtnevonI had to look that guy up. Your insult has provided me on the path to enlightenment.

Selenethis is wrong.
All you have to have is a 8000 or better card, and drivers with physics and bam, no need for a 2nd card, and Dell has nothing to do with it, unless they have older or Dell only drivers with out it installed, wich you can change.

RavenasYes, but dedicating your physics to one card is a bad approach in my opinion, and I would never be caught doing it.

DarkMatterThere are many benches out there that show little improvement when using a separate card, versus a single GTX2xx card (G80/G92 doesn't handle it so well, but it's good enough in my 8800, Mirror's Edge runs flawlessly maxed out, 1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF). You don't need a separate card.




As to the topic, PhysX can run on Cell processor's SPEs (remember one PPE, 7 SPEs), which pose a good array of FPU power, similar to a small GPU. A little bit more efficient (it has much less RAW power than a GPU, but it can use it more efficiently) than GPUs for such a task, it shouldn't have any problem handling PhysX and for the first time in PS3's history Cell can become useful.

DrPepperI wonder if this will use the cpu or the g70 gpu ?

1Kurgan1Am I missing something here? Havok works awesome in GTA 4.

RavenasValve is an awesome developer man (probably one of the greatest ever, besides Blizzard and iD), but when it comes to devoting recources to the PS3, they friggin blow.

DICE makes Valve look like a kiddy developer when it comes to the PS3.

RavenasI also don't need 4 cores on my processor, but I like to have the extra 2 cores to handle the data better.

RavenasNo one uses it on the PC because you have to have a seperate card to use it. The majority of people with PCs buy them from a manufacturer such as Dell... Dell (and other companies like Dell) usually don't give the option to install a physics card, thus the mainstream consumer doesn't have physics because their MOBOs are properitary.

As far as physics for us go, most people on these forums care more about benches, and physics cards don't really help with that... Plus you have to buy a seperate card, or dedicate one of your old cards to it.