Thursday, March 19th 2009

GeForce GTX 275 a Non-Reference Design, Launch Coincides With Radeon HD 4890

With AMD's new graphics card: the Radeon HD 4890 heading towards an April 6~8 worldwide launch, NVIDIA is looking at the situation carefully. While not wanting to spend much into devising a countermeasure, it still wants to address the potential threat Radeon HD 4890 poses. The most recent exposé by Taiwanese website OC Heaven shows there is reason to be optimistic about the performance HD 4890 could end up offering. NVIDIA's counter to the HD 4890 depends on where exactly it lands in its competitive positioning against NVIDIA. If it is closer to or better than what the GeForce GTX 285 offers, NVIDIA may bring in price-cuts for the GTX 285, making it more competitive, but if it is poised somewhere between the GTX 260 (216SP) and GTX 285, the new SKU GTX 275 will be brought in.

The new GPU will be specified to have all its 240 stream processors enabled, while having the memory interface GTX 260 comes with: 448-bit GDDR3, with memory configurations of 896 MB or 1792 MB. Furthermore, its development will be care of NVIDIA's partners, who gain license to do so from the company. NVIDIA will not develop a reference design. The launch of the new SKU will coincide with that of the HD 4890, perhaps a few days trailing it.Source: Expreview
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29 Comments on GeForce GTX 275 a Non-Reference Design, Launch Coincides With Radeon HD 4890

#1
TheMailMan78
Big Member
I love tit for tat competition. Go Nvidia!
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#2
h3llb3nd4
same here! this way we get better cards:D
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#3
alexp999
Staff
So it will be a GTX 260++ , lol.
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#4
Tatty_One
Senior Moderator
by: alexp999
So it will be a GTX 260++ , lol.
No.... a GTX285-- :p
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#5
JrRacinFan
Served 5k and counting ...
by: h3llb3nd4
same here! this way we get better cards:D
Not better, just "rebadged with different clocks" :p
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#6
kid41212003
Trade my GTX280 for GTX275, contact me if you're interested.
:laugh:
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#7
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
So it will be a single card from the GTX295. Not a bad idea. Though I'm hoping the HD4890 lands more towards the GTX285 so we see price cuts instead of simply new cards to fill the price gap.
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#8
soryuuha
It is rare to see Nvidia with tactical moves :roll:
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#10
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
by: lemonadesoda
What is this? GT206c?
What do you mean? If you are asking what core it is, it is GT200b.
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#11
[I.R.A]_FBi
What i have gathered is that the 4890 is going to be much much closer to the 285, so what gives?
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#13
lemonadesoda
If it was *just* a GT200b, and it is on the same PCB design, then it is just a firware hack, and they could release it tomorrow.

So there must be some change, even if it is nothing more than laser cut fuses, and possibly upgraded power circuitry.

Unfortunately, RV790 and GTX275 seem to bring no performance per watt gains.
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#14
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
by: h3llb3nd4
where's the a
When your company makes millions of dollars a year you don't have to abide by the alphabet.
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#15
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: lemonadesoda
If it was *just* a GT200b, and it is on the same PCB design, then it is just a firware hack, and they could release it tomorrow.
Yes, something along those lines..like how GTX 260 got 216 SPs from its original count of 192. This time period is to assign the SKU, print new boxes, stickers, etc, etc...
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#16
Nosada
You know what's sad about this? I'm actually giddy about the fact there are so many cards that have comparatively close price/performance ratios. Shopping for a good bang for the buck card hasn't been this much fun in years.
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#17
Tatty_One
Senior Moderator
by: Nosada
You know what's sad about this? I'm actually giddy about the fact there are so many cards that have comparatively close price/performance ratios. Shopping for a good bang for the buck card hasn't been this much fun in years.
Very True dat.
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#18
Selene
NV needs to stop play games with ATI and doing the tit for tat, and crush them early with the GT212, then in Dec crush them again with GT300.
All this revisions and crap is getting old, I dont want 5-10% gains from this or that, i was 50-100% more POWER!

Im getting ready to upgrade my GPU and sorry I want more then a GTX285 and I want a none SLI system, 98% of the games I play done use it, and the ones that do, play fine on 1 8800GT, even @1920x1200.
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#19
TreadR
by: Selene
NV needs to stop play games with ATI and doing the tit for tat, and crush them early with the GT212, then in Dec crush them again with GT300.
All this revisions and crap is getting old, I dont want 5-10% gains from this or that, i was 50-100% more POWER!
That's all you're gonna get... whether you like it or not!... it's nvidia for Pete's sake!

And about crushing... they already own the "crown"... what do you expect them to own more, the peasant itself?... No can't do... that's called and anti-trust breach and monopolization.
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#20
TheMailMan78
Big Member
by: Selene
NV needs to stop play games with ATI and doing the tit for tat, and crush them early with the GT212, then in Dec crush them again with GT300.
All this revisions and crap is getting old, I dont want 5-10% gains from this or that, i was 50-100% more POWER!
:laugh: If Nvidia could they would. However think real hard how the market would look without both players? Nvidia is having a hard time hitting AMD/ATI right now. Their Price/performance is second to none. Nvidia and Intel may be faster but who can afford to pay for speed not noticed in most games?

Professional level is a whole different story.
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#21
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
by: h3llb3nd4
where's the a
The GT200 would be considered GT200a, the only added the b once they released the 55nm version to differentiate between the 55nm GT200 and the old 65nm GT200. Naming the new 55nm GT200 GT200a would be confusing as a signifies first, not second. And it don't make sense to go back and rename GT200 to GT200a.

by: lemonadesoda
If it was *just* a GT200b, and it is on the same PCB design, then it is just a firware hack, and they could release it tomorrow.

So there must be some change, even if it is nothing more than laser cut fuses, and possibly upgraded power circuitry.

Unfortunately, RV790 and GTX275 seem to bring no performance per watt gains.
It is just a GT200b, though it uses a different PCB design left up to the card manufacturers to design(though they could use the reference design if they wanted I'm sure). This is essentially the same core as the GTX295 uses, still GT200b, but in a different configuration. Just like the GTX260 core 216 uses the same GT200 core as the GTX280 and GTX260 core 192, but the card came out at a while after the original releases. In fact the GTX260 Xore 216 was a very similar situation to the GTX275. It was also released later in a responce to a ATi product.
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#22
PCpraiser100
Nvidia needs to stay out of this fight, ATI was here first.

They are just wasting their time and especially money with this, small improvements won't do sh*t all with the trouble they are in. Once ATI is in, they will get the sales at the start and will continue a bit more frequently due to first impressions.

Plus the GTX 260 and 280 sales are gonna die out this way.
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#23
AsRock
TPU addict
by: Selene
NV needs to stop play games with ATI and doing the tit for tat, and crush them early with the GT212, then in Dec crush them again with GT300.
All this revisions and crap is getting old, I dont want 5-10% gains from this or that, i was 50-100% more POWER!

Im getting ready to upgrade my GPU and sorry I want more then a GTX285 and I want a none SLI system, 98% of the games I play done use it, and the ones that do, play fine on 1 8800GT, even @1920x1200.
Let them play it in mean time video cards stay cheaper. And last thing you want is NV to crush ATI as we all know what would happen to the prices then.

NV would rip us all off big time with no AMDATI. So let them play it and just do less upgrades hey after all it saves us money :)..
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#25
Methious
Might fall between the 280 and 285. If it does it'll be mainly a response to the 4890.

If the briefing I got from Nvidia still holds to their word it'll fall between the 260 and 280, they'd stated that their naming system will remain linear (bigger the number better the card).

That would make it 260, 275, 280, 285, 295.

At least that's what I'd like to see, keep things simple, here lately it's been a regular gaggle of cards and they need to keep the naming scheme consistent.
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