Tuesday, March 24th 2009

RV790 Reaches 1.00 GHz, Indicates Overclocked SKUs in the Making

Following our report of ASUS preparing an overclocked Radeon HD 4890 accelerator with clock speeds well above 900 MHz (core) and 1000 MHz (memory), the possibility has come to surface that AMD has carved out a new range of Radeon HD 4890 accelerators from the unusually high overclocking headroom the RV790 GPU has. The credit also goes to the reference-design PCB, which is known to possess some of the highest quality digital PWM components to handle power, and 4 GT/s GDDR5 memory, which is now known to have a good overclocking headroom.

It has surfaced on the forums of Chinese tech community PCInLife, that the RV790 rather effortlessly reached the 1 GHz mark, the slider-limit of Catalyst Control Center, sparking off fresh rumors that AMD partners may be creating a fresh niche of highly-overclocked cards shortly after Radeon HD 4890 comes to be. The overclocker reached speeds of 1 GHz (core) and 1125 MHz (4.50 GHz effective, memory). At the said speeds, the card was put through 3DMark Vantage with its eXtreme settings. It churned-out a score of X5480, which puts its performance somewhere between those of the GeForce GTX 280 and GeForce GTX 285. It should also be taken into account that the drivers RV790 users the world over have been using, are preliminary beta drivers. AMD plans to release Catalyst 9.4 with the release of Radeon HD 4890, which just may impact positively on the performance of the product.
Factory-overclocked cards based on ATI Radeon have since now been a formality. Even cards with the iconic HIS IceQ TurboX branding, haven't been known to have high (~15~20%) increase in clock speeds. With this feat surfacing, it has been established that the RV790 holds the capability to reach some very high clock speeds. On course to the 1 GHz mark, the overclocker at PCInLife comfortably reached 925/1025 MHz (X5021) and 950/1075 MHz (X5202). It sounds plausible that these speeds could be the speeds factory-overclocked cards come at, with a branding system similar to what NVIDIA uses: a tier-1 (light overclock), tier-2 (moderate overclock), tier-3 (high overclock), and tier-4 (extreme overclock). At any rate, this is turning out to be an exciting fortnight for the high-end GPU industry.
Source: PCInLife
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103 Comments on RV790 Reaches 1.00 GHz, Indicates Overclocked SKUs in the Making

#26
TheMailMan78
Big Member
erockerI want a 1ghz GPU out of the box. Where do I sign up/send the check to?
PM me. Ill give you my address :laugh:
eidairaman1Im Pretty sure they maxed the fan out so they don't have to test for BSODs, because for 1 BSODs can corrupt Graphics drivers and make them continue to crash.
Thats like the 5th thing you have taught me. Thanks man! :toast:
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#27
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
That was a tip from a buddy I game with, he is as much an enthusiast as I am. I couldn't figure it out for the life of me as to why when my monitor would go into standby (blank) I would move the mouse and the monitor would come back to and I would have multiple boxes covering the screen with black and white lines and I would have to remove power from the Monitor Totally to restore proper operation of it, graphics driver controls the monitor powerup.

But on that other part, Id run a fan at max to see what a card can do because if the card can't go that far with the fan at max even, either the cooler is not that good, or the Core is already reached its max, but from looks of it the 4890 is a good part indeed. TBH I wish I could run my fan at max but CCC wont allow it on the 1950, I know the fan is capable of it because it does run at max during POST (Runs at Max Speed) before it's handed off to the Operating system. Also lets be honest here, CPUs/GPUs that run at very high speeds on Stock/lower voltage and Stock Cooler are the Cherry Picked Parts- thus they slap higher price tag on it, all the rest else cant without voltage adjustment or requires 3rd party cooling. I also believe companies dont max the Cores of their Parts out because they want to make you think you are actually getting an extreme overclock out of it. I remember during the Socket7-P3/Athlon Era that a 100MHz OC was a Major Feat, and all CPUs at time were very high in pricing- aka before they ever thought of the Extreme Parts

Anyways end rant and thx for the Kudos
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#28
Marineborn
lol, i see much bickering going on about this new news, i hope it can break over 1gig, that would be sweet and possible make me think about buying one. well only if they have a x2 version
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#29
InnocentCriminal
Resident Grammar Amender
AltecV1where did i say that i can get it TODAY:eek: no seriously man if you can find it on sale i will go and buy it:p I MENT IN THE FUTURE you guys need do learn do read:nutkick:
You also need to be able to word your sentences correctly. As Lillebror pointed out, you're stating you're able to buy a 1GHz clocked GPU - to anyone that would indicate present tense.
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#30
soryuuha
eidairaman1Im Pretty sure they maxed the fan out so they don't have to test for BSODs, because for 1 BSODs can corrupt Graphics drivers and make them continue to crash.
I learned some new things today :rockout:
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#31
$ReaPeR$
this must be a nice GPU but until wizz tests it i dont trust anyone
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#32
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
BingeI have to say 1 ghz on an RV790 RV770 is very impressive. If it behaves better than it's predecessor I suspect this card will be a contender.
Fix'd that for ya

The HD4890 is nothing more than an RV770 with a beefed up power scheme to allow higher clocks. From what I have seen, there is nothing special about the RV790 over the RV770, they are the exact same core, any improvements come from the PCB not the GPU core, maybe some binning was done to pick the top RV770's to put on the HD4890's but that is it. AMD just changed the name to raise the hype level.
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#33
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
newtekie1Fix'd that for ya

The HD4890 is nothing more than an RV770 with a beefed up power scheme to allow higher clocks. From what I have seen, there is nothing special about the RV790 over the RV770, they are the exact same core, any improvements come from the PCB not the GPU core, maybe some binning was done to pick the top RV770's to put on the HD4890's but that is it. AMD just changed the name to raise the hype level.
No, it's a new chip with the same specs.
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#34
newtekie1
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btarunrNo, it's a new chip with the same specs.
I doubt it. Maybe a new revision, but not a new chip.
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#35
TheMailMan78
Big Member
newtekie1I doubt it. Maybe a new revision, but not a new chip.
You're wrong M8. Its a new chip.
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#36
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
its *modified* yes absolutely (from a preliminary look at the chip physically)

doesnt seem to do much more than allow for the higher clock speeds for now, the meat of the GPU appears exactly the same.
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#37
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
TheMailMan78You're wrong M8. Its a new chip.
How do you know? Have you seen the chip? Have you seen any real tech specs on it? What changes have been done? Do we even know a transistor count?

All we are going on is AMD naming it RV790, that is really the only thing that tells use it is a new chip. I'm just saying, I don't think it is any different from RV770. I believe RV790 is nothing more than a binned RV770, and the PCB has been beefed up to allow higher more stable voltage, leading to higher clocks. There have been no changes to the core itself.
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#38
Valdez
The rv790's die size is also bigger than the rv770's
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#39
AltecV1
InnocentCriminalYou also need to be able to word your sentences correctly. As Lillebror pointed out, you're stating you're able to buy a 1GHz clocked GPU - to anyone that would indicate present tense.
im pretty sure that my sentences were correct:rolleyes: YOU just miss understanded them!
now stop :cry: and be a man! :laugh:
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#40
Valdez
AltecV1im pretty sure that my sentences were correct:rolleyes: YOU just miss understanded them!
now stop :cry: and be a man! :laugh:
You're arguing with native English language users.
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#41
AltecV1
ValdezYou're arguing with native English language users.
:laugh:
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#42
iStink
it takes AMD 1ghz to do what it takes nvidia 650mhz to do.

I understand there's differences in architecture, but doesn't a chip using a higher frequency need more voltage? And less voltage for more performance is where we want to go, not more voltage for equal amount of performance...

Still though, as always, amd will need to offer these cards at a killer price to compete with nvidia. Also, they aren't using havok in their drivers just yet. These preliminary tests show promise.
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#43
AltecV1
nvidia fanboy:rolleyes: gool looking avater man:laugh:
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#44
iStink
AltecV1nvidia fanboy:rolleyes:
ACTUALLY, I consider myself an ATI fanboy more than anything lol
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#45
laszlo
you're all right don't argue on this

is not a new design is based on 770 but they've made a few important modification;i think the power leakage is less than at 770 also this is why it can reach 1ghz so easy

time will tell soon what is under the cover..
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#46
EarlZ
Hopefully the 1Ghz version can contend with the GTX285
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#47
iStink
EarlZHopefully the 1Ghz version can contend with the GTX285
I think it should. If beta drivers (with lack of havok) can fall in between a 280 and 285, then tweaked drivers and havok, along with higher overclocks should put this over the edge (but then again, that's against a stock 285. Taking into account the overclockability of a 285, then the 285 might still be top dog)
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#48
TheMailMan78
Big Member
ValdezThe rv790's die size is also bigger than the rv770's
Yeah that kinda gives it away as a new chip. But hey time will tell. However you wanna bet newtekie1?
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#49
AltecV1
EarlZHopefully the 1Ghz version can contend with the GTX285
"its performance somewhere between those of the GeForce GTX 280 and GeForce GTX 285"
its from the main story:o
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#50
laszlo
TheMailMan78Yeah that kinda gives it away as a new chip. But hey time will tell. However you wanna bet newtekie1?
even if the die is larger this "new" chip has a father-770;since the lauch of it amd like nvidia has learned what can be improved an voila the result
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