Tuesday, April 14th 2009

Pioneer Launches New Blu-Ray Burner

Pioneer on Tuesday announced the release of its latest Blu-ray, DVD and CD writer, the BDR-2203. Using SATA interface, the BDR-2203 writes dual-layer Blu-Ray media at up to 8x speeds, equal to about 15 minutes of your time for writing a single-layer 25 GB Blu-Ray disc, or just about 30 minutes for completion of a dual-layer 50 GB disc. The burner also writes recordable DVDs at 16x, dual-layer DVDs at 8x, CD-R media at 32x, and CD rewritable discs at 24x. Along with the burner you'll receive CyberLink PowerDirector, PowerDVD, and Power2Go software products. The BDR-2203 should already be in stores, with a suggested retail price of $250.

Source: Electronista
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48 Comments on Pioneer Launches New Blu-Ray Burner

#1
alexp999
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I cant wait till Blu-Ray burners are like DVD drives now.

A quick after though of $30, that can chuck discs out in under 2mins! :D
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#2
Mistral
Cool, the moment the price drops by about 70% I'll likely get one...
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#3
EastCoasthandle
I've been keeping my eye on BR and it appears that they know that BR is a niche market. Therefore IMO, attempting to maximize profit on every unit sold. We may never see a BR player as cheap as current dvd players.
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#4
alexp999
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Sure we will, my dad paid about £200 for his CD burner.
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#5
Studabaker
Yeah give it around 3 years and BR burners will cost $50.
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#6
EastCoasthandle
Prices have only come down as manufacturing costs have gotten slightly cheaper. Besides, bleed edge hardware is historically more expensive. But I still see them trying to maximize profit on each unit sold none the less.
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#7
freaksavior
To infinity ... and beyond!
by: alexp999
Sure we will, my dad paid about £200 for his CD burner.
my grand mother stood in line to get a VHS player and paid $500 for it. Blu ray will come down.
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#8
EastCoasthandle
And rightly so, there wasn't a time prior to that were folk could actually bring home movies and watch them in mass as we do today. And, there wasn't a competing product being sold significantly cheaper either. IMO, 2 different types of markets. One can't relate to another. Both Beta and VHS brought about "Home Theater" to the masses.
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#9
Weer
by: freaksavior
my grand mother stood in line to get a VHS player and paid $500 for it. Blu ray will come down.
I have an old (antique) VHS recorder. I'll sell it to you for ~500$.

I bought my 6x BD Burner from Newegg for 200$. I honestly don't see why I'd want to burn a disk (no matter what kind) quickly. It takes only a few minutes anyway. If it were in the realm of hours, it would be a different story, but 10 or 20 minutes and 100 or 200 dollars is ridiculous. And even then, you can just leave it on at night. Heck, the only thing I'd burn a BD for now adays is to backup pirated games, err.. I mean store precious memories taken with my HD camcorder.
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#10
tigger
I'm the only one
So how long does it take to burn 25gb and 50gb discs? i mean really,has anyone actually burned one.
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#11
Weer
by: tigger
So how long does it take to burn 25gb and 50gb discs? i mean really,has anyone actually burned one.
I think the more appropriate question is how much one of those disks cost.

But I really don't see why their prices aren't going down almost at all. Three years ago when news of the PS3 came about I had an 80GB HDD and a CD Buner, so I was amazed at the 25-50GB capacity on a single disk. But now? With my 6TB of hard-drive space (and games not taking more than a DVD9)? Not really. It will take years for games to come out at anything close to 15GB, let alone 25GB or 50GB. Heck, it took us 10 years to go from 800MB to 8GB, so maybe Blu-ray will only become mainstream around ~2015.
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#12
timta2
by: Weer
I think the more appropriate question is how much one of those disks cost.

But I really don't see why their prices aren't going down almost at all. Three years ago when news of the PS3 came about I had an 80GB HDD and a CD Buner, so I was amazed at the 25-50GB capacity on a single disk. But now? With my 6TB of hard-drive space (and games not taking more than a DVD9)? Not really. It will take years for games to come out at anything close to 15GB, let alone 25GB or 50GB. Heck, it took us 10 years to go from 800MB to 8GB, so maybe Blu-ray will only become mainstream around ~2015.
Games of 15GB in size are quickly approaching if not here. Take a look at F.E.A.R. 2.
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#13
Weer
Actually, I haven't gotten F.E.A.R. 2 yet. As far as I know, there is no game above 8GB, except for The Orange Box, which was 15GB, but is a compilation.
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#14
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Grand Theft Auto IV weighed in at about 13 GB (DVD9 + DVD5).
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#15
alexp999
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by: FordGT90Concept
Grand Theft Auto IV weighed in at about 13 GB (DVD9 + DVD5).
Exactly as I was going to say :toast:
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#16
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Oh, and don't worry about games shipping on BluRay disks until BluRay players are the norm in gaming computers. That won't happen until about six months after the drives are under $60 each. Be prepared for 4 DVD DL disk installs! :laugh:
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#17
iStink
by: FordGT90Concept
Oh, and don't worry about games shipping on BluRay disks until BluRay players are the norm in gaming computers. That won't happen until about six months after the drives are under $60 each. Be prepared for 4 DVD DL disk installs! :laugh:
when hl2 came out, me and my little brother bought it, and i think it was like 6 CD's lol. At the time, DVD drives were still relatively expensive (if I remember correctly) so all we had was a cd drive.

What a pain in the butt that was to install.
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#18
Assassin48
by: FordGT90Concept
Oh, and don't worry about games shipping on BluRay disks until BluRay players are the norm in gaming computers. That won't happen until about six months after the drives are under $60 each. Be prepared for 4 DVD DL disk installs! :laugh:
Your forgetting about PS3 every PS3 game is Blu-Ray
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#19
alexp999
Staff
Doesnt mean to say its using all that space tho :)

GTA IV fit on single DVD for the 360
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#20
Yukikaze
by: Weer
Actually, I haven't gotten F.E.A.R. 2 yet. As far as I know, there is no game above 8GB, except for The Orange Box, which was 15GB, but is a compilation.
Empire: Total War has a HUGE install footprint.
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#21
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Rockstar went overboard with the textures for the PC release. On PS3 and XB360 versions, they probably scaled the textures way down to fit on a DVD9 (or equivilent) disk. They do that not only to spare having to change DVDs all the time but also because both consoles only have 256 MiB graphics memory. 256 MiB graphics memory on PC forced low settings on GTA4.
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#22
alexp999
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GTA IV for the 360 doesnt have scaled down textures :)

The reason the PC release is so big is because it is multi-lingual, so it has all the audio tracks present, for the 360 (not sure about PS3), you have different language releases, so it all fits on one DVD :D

Whats interesting with the PC release is that it is obviously cheaper to do one version with an extra disc, than more than one version with only one disc.
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#23
mrw1986
Metal Gear Solid 4 on PS3 uses the entire 50gb Blu-ray disc.
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#24
Slyr7.62
Lol, I don't get why it can only burn "CD-R media at 32x". Wait, yes I do, it will never fully replace "older" drivers while people are still burning stuff(music) to CD.
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#25
DonInKansas
by: iStink
when hl2 came out, me and my little brother bought it, and i think it was like 6 CD's lol. At the time, DVD drives were still relatively expensive (if I remember correctly) so all we had was a cd drive.

What a pain in the butt that was to install.
Pffft. Try installing Hero's Quest over like 8 5.25 floppies.:roll: That was back in the day.
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