Friday, May 15th 2009

Core 2 Duo E8700 Gets Listed, Price Displacement Model Stays

Although Intel made the Core 2 Duo E8700 official as early as in January, the chip showed little or no signs of reaching retail. Even the most popular retailers in US and EU don't offer this chip, and continue to sell the Core 2 Duo E8600 at its target price range of US $250~$270. Chinese retailer PCPop started listing E8700, at a price that displaces E8600: 1750 Yuan (US $256). While the store doesn't list E8600 so we could tell to which extant it is displaced, its nearest neighbour E8500 is priced at 1210 Yuan ($177), showing that the displacement may affect the price of E8600 to a greater extent than it would to its lower models, as E8500 remains at its common price. The E8700 is clocked at 3.50 GHz, with an FSB speed of 1333 MHz, and a bus multiplier of 10.5x. Despite its high clock speed, the processor continues to come with a rated TDP of 65W.
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52 Comments on Core 2 Duo E8700 Gets Listed, Price Displacement Model Stays

#1
aCid888*
5GHz 24/7 anyone??

Seems a bit pointless though, people want i7 these days or 775 quads...I'm not sure where this fits in aside from it has a 10.5 multi.



Volts seem a little high but I'm sure this is just an early example, once people really start to OC these chips I'm sure we will see much higher numbers. :toast:


Edit: Screenshot added. :)
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#2
Studabaker
i don't think that's high for five point frikkin five! :eek:
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#4
Duncan1
by: h3llb3nd4
IS it better than the E8600?
Its clocked ~200Mhz higher, plus the higher multi who helps when comes to overclocking;)
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#6
Ochi
cooling

by: aCid888*
5GHz 24/7 anyone??

Seems a bit pointless though, people want i7 these days or 775 quads...I'm not sure where this fits in aside from it has a 10.5 multi.


http://www.xcpus.com/Images/Docs/doc140/E8700%20OCed.PNG
Volts seem a little high but I'm sure this is just an early example, once people really start to OC these chips I'm sure we will see much higher numbers. :toast:


Edit: Screenshot added. :)
What was the cooling? Water?
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#7
Mussels
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by: Ochi
What was the cooling? Water?
whatever it was, it would have been unstable. high clocks like that are never good for anything more than screenshots.
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#8
Scrizz
almost time to pickup an E8600
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#9
aCid888*
by: Ochi
What was the cooling? Water?
Qouted as water, yes. :)
by: Mussels
whatever it was, it would have been unstable. high clocks like that are never good for anything more than screenshots.
The guy said it was bench stable. But, like you, I doubt it....I guess we will have to see if this is the case when someone puts it to work here on TPU.
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#10
Hayder_Master
by: aCid888*
5GHz 24/7 anyone??

Seems a bit pointless though, people want i7 these days or 775 quads...I'm not sure where this fits in aside from it has a 10.5 multi.


http://www.xcpus.com/Images/Docs/doc140/E8700%20OCed.PNG
Volts seem a little high but I'm sure this is just an early example, once people really start to OC these chips I'm sure we will see much higher numbers. :toast:


Edit: Screenshot added. :)
wow really impressive , can you tell me about your 3d mark06 cpu score , im become like e8600
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#11
DOM
me want :D
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#13
mlee49
The largest impact we will see from the release of this chip is the rest of the e8 series chips drop in prices.

Just another way Intel will make money by releasing a higher end chip to drop the price of the immediate surroundings. Good marketing Intel.

Prediction:
After i5 is released we'll have another round of backfilled 775 chips(ie e7600 or Q8500) and by then it should be time for 32nm technology to hold us over for a while.
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#14
Shadin
by: aCid888*
Seems a bit pointless though, people want i7 these days or 775 quads...I'm not sure where this fits in aside from it has a 10.5 multi.
Depends on the application. I use my PC for gaming and video/audio encoding. The encoding is the only reason I have a quad, and if it weren't for that I'd take an E8700 without question. Gaming doesn't yet benefit from quads very appreciably, and duals overclock better and tend to have far less issues with FSB walls.
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#16
SystemViper
by: DOM
me want :D
you bet, love that .5, it should rock some numbers.... :rockout:
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#17
phanbuey
this would be a fun chip if it was $180 - not for $256.
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#19
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
by: snakeoil
beating a dead horse
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25826&stc=1&d=1242408245

intel is beating a dead horse, core 2 is an old architecture that cannot be further improved
and is beginning to retire it.

Intel Core 2 Era Comes to the End: Intel Discontinues X48 Mainboard.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/display/20090512171231_Intel_Core_2_Era_Comes_to_the_End_Intel_Discontinues_X48_Mainboard.html
do you have to post things like this? name one thing that core2 cannot accomplish that i7 can? Core i7 shows only marginal improvements over core2 and thats with way more bandwidth available thanks to QPI.
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#20
snakeoil
by: cdawall
do you have to post things like this? name one thing that core2 cannot accomplish that i7 can? Core i7 shows only marginal improvements over core2 and thats with way more bandwidth available thanks to QPI.
well if you understand the old architecture you are using you know the front side bus is a gigantic bottleneck thats why when you stress your sistem is not as responsive as an amd system with hypertransport, thats why core i7 copied hypertransport and calls it QPI
if the cpu cant communicate with the rest of the components of the system the system suffers and so does your overall experience.
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#21
extrasalty
Well, technically it's Intel that killed the horse, before they started beating it.
Personally, after I got my BE-2400 for $18 from the egg, all of the rest seems marginally better for a lot more.
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#22
OnBoard
by: mlee49
The largest impact we will see from the release of this chip is the rest of the e8 series chips drop in prices.
That would be nice for a change, so far they've only gone up since the release..
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#23
Triton.se
old tech and not the slightest future proof, only 166mhz over E8600, why would ANYONE buy this when i7 is at door step ? insane price, go die

Next gen i7 will only be enthusiast, and now this...whats inbetween? Intel is going to stop 775 mobos, wanting us to empty the current i7 shelves....

go to h3ll, I will post 3 years how good my current cpu is..gth
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#24
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
by: snakeoil
well if you understand the old architecture you are using you know the front side bus is a gigantic bottleneck thats why when you stress your sistem is not as responsive as an amd system with hypertransport, thats why core i7 copied hypertransport and calls it QPI
if the cpu cant communicate with the rest of the components of the system the system suffers.
no i have run both FSB will not cause a bottleneck on a dual core. the only system that i ever even heard of the FSB bottlenecking was the Q6x00 series with the 2 dies talking to each other across the FSB. thats it and even then there are no benchmarks that show the Q6700 loosing to the 9850/9950 other than memory benchmarks.

the system is not more responsive it does not do anything better just drop it. FSB is a bottleneck but not enough to make a better processor perform worse than the AMD ones.

i'm not an intel fanboi at all check my specs ask anyone on the forums and they will all agree if i am a fanboi to any company its AMD and i am sitting here telling you that the intel chips perform better in just about every little thing you can think of.
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#25
Triton.se
I sure would wanted a tri-core 775 chip instead of this. 1-3 games in PC world (all ported from multi cpu console) makes PC sellers wanna sell their new cpus....
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