Thursday, May 28th 2009

ASUS Designs Own Monster Dual-GTX 285 4 GB Graphics Card

ASUS has just designed a new monster graphics card that breaks the mold for reference design GeForce GTX 295, called the ASUS MARS 295 Limited Edition. The card, although retains the name "GeForce GTX 295", same device ID, and is compatible with existing NVIDIA drivers, has two huge innovations put in by ASUS, which go far beyond being yet another overclocked GeForce GTX 295: the company used two G200-350-B3 graphics processors, the same ones that make the GeForce GTX 285. The GPUs have all the 240 shader processors enabled, and also have the complete 512-bit GDDR3 memory interface enabled. This dual-PCB monstrosity holds 32 memory chips, and 4 GB of total memory (each GPU accesses 2 GB of it). Apart from these, each GPU system uses the same exact clock speeds as the GeForce GTX 285: 648/1476/2400 MHz (core/shader/memory).

Each PCB holds 16 memory chips, a 6-phase digital PWM power circuit, drawing auxiliary power from an 8-pin PCI-E power connector, the GeForce GTX 285-class GPU, and its companion NVIO2 processor. The PCB holding the PCI-Express bus interface, also holds the bridge chip. ASUS broke away with using the nForce 200 chip, and instead is using a yet to be disclosed third-party bridge chip. Currently, PLX and IDT are two likely sources for such a chip. The memory consists of high-density 0.77 ns memory chips made by Hynix.
The electrical-management on each PCB is care of a Volterra VRM controller, which supports the I2C interface, which means that the card supports software voltage control, perhaps a big plus for ASUS' Voltage Tweak feature that is gaining in popularity. Fused power circuit provides Over Current Protection while also facilitating extreme overclocking.

The cooler internally has the same basic construction as the reference cooler, it uses a single leaf-blower. The card spans across two expansion slots and is slightly higher than the reference design card. ASUS also used slightly longer internal bridges that make more room for third-party coolers, and the likes. Our source from ASUS EMEA conducted a quick 3DMark Vantage test proving the card's seamless compatibility with existing drivers, while also providing a significant boost in performance over existing GTX 295 cards. Being Quad-SLI capable, this card finally makes GeForce GTX 285 (effective) quad-SLI possible, and makes for the most powerful desktop multi-GPU setup ever conceived. ASUS designed this card despite pressure from NVIDIA enforcing its rigid policy of restricting its partners from custom-designing GeForce GTX 295. If everything goes smooth throughout the development process, the card might make it for a gala launch at Computex.
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179 Comments on ASUS Designs Own Monster Dual-GTX 285 4 GB Graphics Card

#1
allen337
$700 at least, how many they think there gonna sell?
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#2
Animalpak
Wow now Crysis 100 fps at 2560 x 1600

by: allen337
$700 at least, how many they think there gonna sell?
No more than 1000.
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#3
El_Mayo
by: Animalpak
Wow now Crysis 100 fps at 2560 x 1600
you have more ridiculous expectations than Jizzler
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#4
Animalpak
I wanna know if is that developed for playing games or for professional users ?
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#5
Animalpak
by: El_Mayo
you have more ridiculous expectations than Jizzler
I was not serious mate. :toast:

I think it is just an exaggeration this graphics card.
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#6
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
by: Animalpak
I wanna know if is that developed for playing games or for professional users ?
General enthusiast consumers. Yes, there are only 1000 pieces in the making.
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#7
tzitzibp
I dont know how many will buy this beast, but it seems to me that Asus is experimenting on certain aspects of the graphics card... sort of like a test base of small adjustments, improvements for future releases (car companies do it all the time).

in any case...:respect::respect::respect:
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#8
El_Mayo
by: Animalpak
I was not serious mate. :toast:

I think it is just an exaggeration this graphics card.
i dont think jizzler is ever serious either xD

by: tzitzibp
I dont know how many will buy this beast, but it seems to me that Asus is experimenting on certain aspects of the graphics card... sort of like a test base of small adjustments, improvements for future releases (car companies do it all the time).
a concept card?
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#9
werez
It`s better to buy two gtx 275 from Zotac , Galaxy , or Inno3d , the new ones that come with the
Accelero Xtreme Cooler and SLI them . The Accelero Xtreme let you push the cards to the max , and you actually kick ass with just 896 ram / card . One good deal right there . Oh .. i almost forgot , they look sexy :P


Do you remember this one ? Bet you don`t ...
http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/03/asustrinity.jpg

The ASUS EAH3850 TRINITY , tricore card .
Now tell me please , what can i do with this card in our days ? I think you get the point ...
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#10
tzitzibp
by: El_Mayo
a concept card?
No.... thats a different category!

this falls somewhere in the middle.... (cant think of the right word for it, Mercedes Benz releases such a car, about 6 months before a new release)
existing product with added or/and enhanced features, that will be real life tested... and depending on the acceptance and good performance, these "added or/and enhanced features" are made standard features for new products....

sorry about that, alex...
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#11
alexp999
Staff
by: El_Mayo
i dont think jizzler is ever serious either xD



a concept card?
Please stop double posting, use the edit button.
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#12
theorw
by: El_Mayo
that's a damn fine first post :p
+1:toast:
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#13
El_Mayo
by: alexp999
Please stop double posting, use the edit button.
my bad
can i still quote again using the edit button?
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#14
tigger
I'm the only one
More fodder for the rich show offs i think.
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#15
zithe
by: El_Mayo
my bad
can i still quote again using the edit button?
You can use multi-quote. Or, hit quote, copy the text, go into edit, paste it to your post, and comment on it.

You get this:
by: alexp999
Hit the quote button, copy it, edit last post and paste it in. :toast:
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#16
alexp999
Staff
by: El_Mayo
my bad
can i still quote again using the edit button?
Hit the quote button, copy it, edit last post and paste it in. :toast:
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#17
Jizzler
by: El_Mayo
you have more ridiculous expectations than Jizzler
WHAT!!!! SOMEONE MORE RIDICULOUS THAN ME?!!? :D

Well, my belief that technology moves as slow as it does is because we as consumers accept it - is serious. I may go about it in an exaggerated way though.

Case today: nVidia stifling board partners. Asus' show of rebellion (although small) brings me some happiness and consumers a unique option. Now people can ask themselves, will this Asus GTX 295 or a standard GTX 295 better serve me? Now, I accept nearly all answers and try not to judge others. e-peen points? Folding? Quadro alternative? Heck, I'll even accept gaming as a reason to buy one!
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#18
alexp999
Staff
Is it just me or are the overclocks extremely unrealistic.

There is no way a GT200 is capable of 833 core and 1861 shaders. That and the memory is far too slow for a GTX 285
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#20
Mussels
Moderprator
by: El_Mayo
ahh right yeah
i didn't know video RAM counted you see
(i'm noobish)



yes.. indeed it does.
read the link in my sig about 64 bit OS - not many people were aware of it, so i spread the word.
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#21
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
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#22
Mussels
Moderprator
by: werez
In games NO ! since it`s GDDR3 , the performance might actually drop in some games .Take HD4870 for example . The card uses GDDR5 , and you barely see any difference between the 512 and 1024 version , just in really high resolutions when you run out of buffer . But again , no big difference .
This card is made just to satisfy the "need for more" , a syndrome common in our days . I want to buy a Ferrari too , i don`t like the car , but it`s expensive , and there are not many who own it , so i must be some kind of god if i have it . This is actually just a "stock" card , but tuned on the outside . I don`t think the cooling is better because i see the same blower in there , and it`s just like the reference design . BIG ? yes , POWERFUL ? not really ... Expensive ? YOU BET ! If you want to have something special , design your own card and use the original PCB . Save money :)
every generation, the monster cards are for people with monster resolutions. This gen, thats 1080P and above.

2GB cards like this (its 2GB effectively since SLI isnt additive) are for people at resolutions like 2560x1600.

The thing is, when you DO run out of memory cause of high res and high AA... the performance doesnt just degrade, it goes instant slideshow.
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#23

I tell you this, my next system will be Intel based, and I must... must have one of them cards!

Asus fan boy?

H*ll yes!
#24
laszlo
by: btarunr
only 1000 pieces in the making.
i was right about purpose ;)

another cookie for people with too much $
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#25
Fitseries3
Eleet Hardware Junkie
3 of these would fold like theres no tomorrow..... let alone the 45k in 3dm vantage i'll have....

expect a few of these to show up at my house pretty quickly. :pimp:
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