Tuesday, June 30th 2009

Mozilla Firefox 3.5 Released

Mozilla today announced the newest stable version of Firefox, version 3.5, which has been available in various developer preview forms for months. The new version is a milestone release, unlike timely updates that Firefox receives on a near-monthly basis, and boasts of better performance. For instance, Firefox 3.5 outperforms its previous version (Firefox 3) by over 100% in the SunSpider benchmark.

Under the hood, this new version extends support for HTML5 audio and video elements, including native support for open-source formats such as Ogg Theora. It uses a faster TraceMonkey Javascript engine (which is behind the performance boost in SunSpider), It supports downloadable fonts, CSS media queries, new transformations and properties, JavaScript query selectors, HTML5 local storage and offline application storage, canvas-driven text, ICC profiles, and SVG transformations. The user interface remains fairly identical to its predecessor, except for a few minor changes. The browser finally supports a private browsing feature which MSIE 8 (InPrivate) and Google Chrome (Incognito mode) have. Existing users of Firefox will be prompted to upgrade to the new browser. Others can find it here.
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38 Comments on Mozilla Firefox 3.5 Released

#1
WhiteLotus
Been running the RC on the laptop, it's ok. Doesn't feel any more or less faster compared to my Desktop. So no idea where they are getting these figures from, unless it's for super specialist things that i dare not venture to.
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#2
DanishDevil
Just speed it up yourself then.

Go to "about :config" in your browser.

Look for these values:

network.http.pipelining > TRUE
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests > 30
network.http.proxy.pipelining > TRUE

Now right-click anywhere and select New > Integer. Name it "nglayout.initialpaintdelay" and its value to "0" and you should get a nice speed boost on any DSL or higher connection.

Going from 3.0 to 3.5 using these fixes in both, it's a tad quicker :)
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#3
Mussels
Moderprator
you know whats funny? i just updated systems to the RC3 here, less than 4 hours ago... sneaky bastards.
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#4
DanishDevil
I was going to download RC3 today as well, but now we get the actual release!
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#5
dcf-joe
I just ran that sunspider java benchmark, and I got it done in 594.8 ms! Go Firefox 3.5:)

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#6
dani31
Looks like chrome is still the one to beat for speed.

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#7
Mussels
Moderprator
my PC blue screened in another thread while typing a reply (testing new ram).

Upon rebooting and starting FF 3.5 back up, it not only recovered my tabs... but everything i'd been typing in the reply box :) lost maybe two words of a whole, large reply.

FireFox FOREVER!

(a download in progress when FF crashed also auto resumed when it came back.... <3 )
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#8
mdm-adph
by: dani31
Looks like chrome is still the one to beat for speed.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2028/45734453.png
No one's doubting that. :laugh: Chrome's a damn fast browser.

Been using Firefox 3.5 for a few months now in various beta and RC forms, and I have to say -- after developing in it heavily, keeping it open all day, opening up 20+ javascript-heavy tabs all while using 10 different developer extensions -- the memory-hogging problems seem to be fixed!

I can do this with Firefox 3.5 all day and it's barely using over 250mb of memory. Firefox 3.0 would be taking up 500 or more by that point.
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#9
Mussels
Moderprator
^ mine hangs at 250MB or less all the time now too. i noticed that. old one used to reach upto 2.5GB if i tried hard :D
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#10
Weer
by: Mussels
^ mine hangs at 250MB or less all the time now too. i noticed that. old one used to reach upto 2.5GB if i tried hard :D
Why does it matter anymore? We both have 8GB of RAM.
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#11
csendesmark
The fastest browser is chrome, the smartest is Opera
But FF is the best replacement for ex-Internet Explorer users for the first time :)
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#12
Kitkat
its not faster , after i opera'ed once i didnt turn away has some kinks like other browsers but once your connection and computer are so fast like 1 /100th of a sec dosnt mater anymore lol. THEY ALL CRASH the same (if your a power user and dont go to the same 3 sites everyday) the internet is more the problem over the browers. websites with HORIBLE code no where near standard.

by: Mussels
my PC blue screened in another thread while typing a reply (testing new ram).

Upon rebooting and starting FF 3.5 back up, it not only recovered my tabs... but everything i'd been typing in the reply box :) lost maybe two words of a whole, large reply.

FireFox FOREVER!

(a download in progress when FF crashed also auto resumed when it came back.... <3 )
opera will rec all tabs and what u type too ie now also. + there is ALWAYS an update for firefox, thats the main thing i hate about it lol. Other than that its ok, i still like operas setup and coming with everything already for me.
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by: DanishDevil
Just speed it up yourself then.

Go to "about :config" in your browser.

Look for these values:

network.http.pipelining > TRUE
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests > 30
network.http.proxy.pipelining > TRUE

Now right-click anywhere and select New > Integer. Name it "nglayout.initialpaintdelay" and its value to "0" and you should get a nice speed boost on any DSL or higher connection.

Going from 3.0 to 3.5 using these fixes in both, it's a tad quicker :)
tested ...

its my result ... have a see ...
here is it : compare link No Change ...

its too slow than tests ive seen in other sites ..
maybe its cause of my addons ...
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#14
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
Wow FF3.5 is quite nippy. Four as fast as IE in the sunspider test.
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#15
pr0n Inspector
As usual, Mozilla said Fuck You then fixed things that aren't broken and you have to waste time and resources to "UN-FIX" them: 3.5 ignores your group policy concerning zone.identifier(need three fucking settings in about :config to disable), closes window with last tab by default(have to go into a:c again) and does not have a close button on the last tab(userchrome.css or Stylish+styles).
There might be more, but those three are the most retarded ones I've encountered.
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#16
t77snapshot
Just got the 3.5 release and I like the new little features it has. :)
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#17
Scrizz
This version fixed the problem with capping upload at 3Mb/s
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#18
Mega-Japan
I'm hating it so far. The Aero Fox theme I was using is incompatible, and my Edit, View and Help menus disappeared. Anyone knows how can I get them back? O_o
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#19
OnBoard
by: mdm-adph
after developing in it heavily, keeping it open all day, opening up 20+ javascript-heavy tabs all while using 10 different developer extensions -- the memory-hogging problems seem to be fixed!

I can do this with Firefox 3.5 all day and it's barely using over 250mb of memory. Firefox 3.0 would be taking up 500 or more by that point.
by: Mussels
^ mine hangs at 250MB or less all the time now too. i noticed that. old one used to reach upto 2.5GB if i tried hard :D
Nice! 3.0.5 or something about there started to leak memory and it's just gotten worse and no fix yet. I'm on 3.0.11 with 6 tabs now open and 643MB used..

by: Weer
Why does it matter anymore? We both have 8GB of RAM.
I have 4GB and no it wouldn't matter, but it does, as it also gets slower and slower the more memory it hogs.

Will be upgrading to 3.5 right after this post, it can't be worse than 3. I don't like restarting the browser constantly, just the free up the memory. btw. while writing this post the memory usage went up to 644MB, 1MB for just sitting there, no wonder the memory usage builds up if I have the browser open for couple days.
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#20
NeSeNVi
I will try it since... last 2nd version.
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#21
Disruptor4
I find it takes forever to open up 3.5.... It also seems slower. Memory Usage seems the same as before too...
Did I do something wrong by just updating straight from 3?
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#22
Mussels
Moderprator
by: Disruptor4
I find it takes forever to open up 3.5.... It also seems slower. Memory Usage seems the same as before too...
Did I do something wrong by just updating straight from 3?
maybe its a plugin or addon? uninstall and reinstalling would fix that.
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#23
mdm-adph
by: pr0n Inspector
As usual, Mozilla said Fuck You then fixed things that aren't broken and you have to waste time and resources to "UN-FIX" them: 3.5 ignores your group policy concerning zone.identifier(need three fucking settings in about :config to disable), closes window with last tab by default(have to go into a:c again) and does not have a close button on the last tab(userchrome.css or Stylish+styles).
There might be more, but those three are the most retarded ones I've encountered.
I'm pretty sure closing the window on the closing of the last tab is standard behaviour now -- Chrome does it the same way.

Plus -- and this is the beauty of Firefox -- don't like the way the tab behaviour works? Get an extension to fix it. :D

This beta build of the famous TabMixPlus extension works with Firefox 3.5: http://tmp.garyr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9864&start=0

by: Mega-Japan
I'm hating it so far. The Aero Fox theme I was using is incompatible, and my Edit, View and Help menus disappeared. Anyone knows how can I get them back? O_o
Open up a command line, and type "firefox -safe-mode". Then turn off your extensions, and test them one by one.
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#24
pr0n Inspector
by: mdm-adph
I'm pretty sure closing the window on the closing of the last tab is standard behaviour now -- Chrome does it the same way.

Plus -- and this is the beauty of Firefox -- don't like the way the tab behaviour works? Get an extension to fix it. :D
1. standard behavior? BS. ONLY Chrome does that and that's because every tab in chrome is a separate process. it's not in Firefox.
2. The close button on the last tab was there in 3.0.x. there's nothing wrong with it.
1 and 2 happened because some moron submitted a bug and it got "FIXED" even though many people were/are opposing it.

3. Firefox started giving a f about Windows security zones in 3.0. now 3.5 stopped giving a f about group policy - SO WHAT IS THE POINT OF IT?
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#25
Mussels
Moderprator
no need for the language, or you directing your rage at members of the forum.

if you have such serious problems, stop using firefox and go play with chrome. Or do something constructive, such as send reports to the firefox team.
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