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Frederik S
Jun 15, 2010, 08:11 PM
I like your reviews, love to see more of them in the future ;) I recently discovered quality audio, and I must say, it is impressive, even with a small budget.

There will be more reviews of budget head/earphones over the summer from various brands. There will also be something a little something on the side for all of us interested in headphones.

Kursah
Jun 16, 2010, 01:43 AM
Kursah you might want to add a link to TPUs review section to the first post: http://techpowerup.com/reviews/?q_reviews=&p=1&pp=all&order=date&category=Headphones

Please note that the oldest ones feature a obsolete rating since the performance of headphones have been improved immensely over the last few years.

Technically I am a user so hopefully the reviews qualify (fingers crossed) :)

Great thread btw, nice to see people sharing thoughts on headphones in an organized way.

Consider it done my friend! In all honesty I didn't even consider doing that since what you do and what I've done are on completely different levels. I've enjoyed many of your headphone reviews, so I'm pretty stoked you want those to be a part of this thread.

Your reviews definitely qualify ya though, I gotta go through and add a few more user submitted reviews anyways, I needed a reminder. This thread picks up, then slows for a couple weeks, then picks up. I'm glad that people are able to enjoy it and post their thoughts here, and be honest about it along with the helpful TPU attitude that is impossibly hard to find elsewhere more often than not.

Any other changes you guys see, please let me know and please keep your reviews coming in for everyone to read and get an idea if it's something they want to buy or not. The worst part about headphones is the plethora of them you can't try without buying, and there are soo many great headphones out there for pretty much any need.

:toast:

AhokZYashA
Jun 25, 2010, 12:17 AM
wait..
ill repost my request here.
im thinking of 70-110US$ price range.
criteria :
1. headphone (circum-aural or supra-aural)
2. closed or open back doesnt matter
3. loads of bass but not sacrificing the mids and highs
4. easy to drive as i dont have an amp
5. sound characteristic like the CX300 <loved them>

any recommendations?

Frederik S
Jun 25, 2010, 08:07 AM
You could go for the Grado SR-80i or 60i. If you are lucky you can score a set of Audio-technica AD700s.

There is also Sennheiser HD555 but they are bass light compared to the CX300s.

assaulter_99
Jul 27, 2010, 04:24 AM
I'm actually looking for a headset, this thread has a lot of important information. I really think it should be stickied. Hats off to Kursah, you made my job easier.

Kursah
Jul 27, 2010, 06:05 AM
Glad it could be useful for ya man! Please do donate your own reviews in this thread, I do need to add a few to the OP. Would be cool if it was stickied..but people seem to find it even when it goes a few pages back. It's a good but often missed out on topic, people waste a lotta money sometimes before they get something decent or even what they expected.

What you planning on getting?

:toast:

assaulter_99
Jul 27, 2010, 01:26 PM
Well since I'm a bit on a budget, I think I'm gonna try the JVC HA-RX700. It will be a massive improvement for me, I come from an A4 Tech HS-800, which I have to admit has a pretty poo poo sound and the plastic holding the earcup just decided to break by itself with just the pressure of putting it on and off. (you get what you pay for, it cost me around $10) I would have tried some of the others you recommended, but since I don't know sh*t about sound (maybe I have bad ears) well I just don't see the massive investment since I'm saving to get another gpu. Be sure I'll send in some words when I get it. Might take a week or two though.

Again I do think this thread should be STICKIED, this could help a lot of folks here. I hope a MOD sees that ;)

Kursah
Jul 28, 2010, 12:50 AM
Well assaulter, it seems to have been stickied, thanks TPU staff! Never really expected this thread to be, just wanted to share what I learned diving head-first into this area that is often vague and not touched on as often as it should be here.

Assaulter, the HARX700 are a great start! I will say though, please do consider getting a sound card down the road...even a used X-Fi Xtreme Gamer or Xtreme Music would be HUGE compared to an onboard solution...this I know from experience...it's night and day difference. But just headphones themselves should be a good improvement, especially if you have EQ capabilities, but even then...it'll pale in comparison to what a dedicated soundcard can output. Don't let that deter ya though..many people are happy with the 700 + onboard, but many of them have yet to try a sound card...let alone with one like mine that has a dedicated headphone amp built in (but in headphone amp territory, it's pretty weak compared to a dedicated amp).

So you do have some options to grow, and the 700's rock! There are a couple of mods out there to modify the sound, comfort, clearness, bass, etc. Mostly on head-fi.org. I can post the links later after ya get some time with them. They will make your ears warm...they are mostly sealed...but they sound damn good for how cheap they are...JVC did a really good job giving people a better way to prove that good sound can be had for cheap...as I said in my Denon D2000 post, my slightly modified 700's are pretty close..the D2000's at almost 10X the price msrp is better in all areas and does stand out, but nothing worth 10X the price...but the comfort is worth 2-3X the price. I still use my D2000's, but both my JVC sets are with me. The HA-DX3's never get used anymore, but they were very comfy...just didn't have the bass hit like the 700's...but they were crisp and clear for gaming.

Keep us posted on what you end up doing, and again TPU Staff, thanks for stickying this thread, and Assaulter, thanks for suggesting it...I really had never considered it!

:toast:

Edit: Just noticed, 1 year after this thread was created it became a sticky...lol! Thanks again! And let's keep this thread rollin'!

inferKNOX
Jul 28, 2010, 07:10 AM
+1 Sticky

(I'll put my mini-review about the Roccat KAVE headset I have as soon as I get around to testing it.
Not sure how to test it though in other scenarios other than games. Perhaps you can put some sort of testing tips so that those of us that aren't really audiophiles can give a clearer opinion?)

Hayder_Master
Jul 28, 2010, 04:04 PM
guys anything for creative headphones

assaulter_99
Jul 29, 2010, 10:02 AM
Well I've decided to go for the 700's, but I'll only get em in a month or so, due to shipping it from far. In the meantime, I got an a4tech HU 510 to use till then, jeez, what an awful experience. Not saying they are bad (I'm no expert when it comes to discern whether sound is good or not) It was an upgrade from the HS 800, but there is a major problem with the head, since it is usb+5.1 and that a4tech don't have recent drivers for win7, its a major pain in the *ss. It does ship with some drivers, but they just crash up your pc and by that I mean f*ck up bad (just google the head and you'll understand). My pc has become a snail since I installed it. Even if you do uninstall it, it stays in your control panel. Seems that my experience with win7 longevity will stop here sadly, because of that POS. I'll probably just nuke it later. An advice here though, never, and I mean it, never buy sh*t that even their company has stopped supporting. Cheapness comes with a price I guess. I had some experience with their keyboard and mouse, same damn problem. I managed to get the head to work without their native drivers, thanks to windows though, but I can't seem to get past my memories of what I had to endure with it. Sorry this post has turned into a hate one instead of reviewing said product, but if you lived what I have lived since yesterday, you'd probably just attempt suicide. ;)

n-ster
Jul 29, 2010, 10:08 AM
Creative headphones? I've heard good of the Aurvana Live!

Alright let me talk about the headphone I have, the Shure SRH440, got them at 70$ through Amazon and Paulieg (thanks :D), used with a Fiio E5 amp, and Fiio L1 LOD for my ipod, and that amp + Asus Xonar DS for my PC

Mind you, I am completely new to good headphones so take my opinion with a grain of salt, the only other headphone I really tried is Beats by Drake or wtv

Great headphones overall, but comfort may be lacking

Before starting, I will say that I have an average sized head, a bit above average sized ears, and ears that stick out a little :p

1 problem I ran into was that my ears touched the metal round thing that protected the drivers and it hurt me like hell, so I stuffed tissue under the earpads :D That not only stopped that ears from hurting, but ended up being more comfortable that way and it has a better soundstage too. I will however replace the Kleenex with Foam when I get to that. I'm guessing the SRH840 pads would be better, what I can tell you is the pads for Beats by Drake are much more comfortable and softer

Another problem I have is that when wearing them for more than 2 hours, it starts hurting on the top of my head, and if I make them looser, the sound isn't as good (though not much of a difference), and the headphone basically slide of my head with a tiny nudge. This may be solved with a little more padding on the top. Again, Beats be Drake have great and soft padding in that area

I do sometimes listen to them in the subway, though I do look a bit ridiculous xD No style like Beats by Drake

One advantage of the SRH440 is at this price range it has a nice detachable cord :) The isolation of the SRH440, IMO, is medium-low. It does isolate enough, but you need medium-loud (ie: at the volume I usually listen to music) music to not hear someone talking 10 feet from you.

The Shure SRH440 aren't known for their Bass, and the Fiio E5 helps tremendously, but the best is when I EQ it with my Xonar DS, the Bass can be punchy enough for me, while being totally controlled. This also helps for games, a nice U-shaped EQ does the job. The sound is verrry accurate with this set of headphones, and isn't colored. If you want it colored, just EQ xD. I am very please with the sound quality, especially when I EQ it like I want. U shaped isn't the solution for everything, it depends on the song, I usual listen Flat or U shaped though. FINALLY something I prefer for the 300$ (at least in Canada) Beats be Drake, they were too colored


So before buying the SRH440, I'd suggest you try them on first and see if they are comfortable. If I had, I would NOT have purchased the SRH440, instead I would have tried the SRH840 or 750DJ. I would NOT buy the SRH440 as gaming headphones, but more for either Music, or multipurpose.

-1nf1n1ty-
Aug 20, 2010, 09:30 PM
Not sure if these headphones have been mentioned but, if It has could someone tell me how good they are?

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/akg-k121-studio-headphones/396688-01/?currency=USD&utm_source=google_us&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Google%2BShopping

n-ster
Aug 20, 2010, 09:51 PM
I heard good from them but I haven't heard much... have you checked head-fi?

OnBoard
Aug 24, 2010, 06:36 PM
Hey Kursah, you think this would be good with HA-RX700s ?)

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=129331

Sounding like a perfect card for my need with impedance tunable amp onboard. Think I found a birthday present for myself :)

edit: more specs http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ASUS-Xonar-DG-specifications.jpg
and a front image http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ASUS-Xonar-DG-sound-card-top-view.jpg

Wouldn't mind having virtual 3D sound with my cans in certain games at all. Price seems to be 40-50€ and available already this month \o/

Kursah
Aug 24, 2010, 11:59 PM
I would be willing to bet compared to onboard audio it'd be great...and who knows how good the onboard headphone amp is, but I'm sure it's better than using the standard speaker output which is much, much better than any onboard audio output I've ever heard. So I'd be willing to bet that card would do well. Most of my experience lies with Creative based cards...but the HARX700 is easy to drive, but loves more power and feeds really well off of more power and a good EQ. The 3D sound in a gaming mode is actually pretty neat, and for most FPS games I play and even racing games it works well.

If I didn't have my Auzen Forte, I'd be getting it! :toast:

OnBoard
Aug 25, 2010, 01:27 AM
Yep, I'll post some pictures/feelings of it if/when I get it/find it somewhere :) Have a feeling the price might rise once it gets here locally and you never know when that is. Although it's ASUS so availability should be great everywhere.

Low profile is also nice, leaves more room for GPU to breathe. Well will be already 2 slots in between even if I don't put it to the lowest slot as that is bracket "taken" with fan controller.

Wulfgar
Aug 27, 2010, 06:54 PM
What do you guys think about the Creative Soundblaster Arena headset ?

I'm looking for a good pair of headphones (or headset if it has a removable mic) to use in gaming (not professional, just for entertainment), movies and music. I'm used to playing for 2-3 hours so I want something light. Noise cancelling is not a requirement but high fidelity is a must.

Up until now I had the Sony MDR-V300 which were very light and extremely resiliant. I must've dropped them 30 times and they still work. The only problem is that the ear pads are broken (after 3 years of usage lol).

My current pair is a Sennheiser PC-161 and I'm not very impressed with them. They're heavier and the sound quality is a bit better, however the bass is lacking and I have to boost up the sound in Windows to get something out of them.

I want to replace them while at the same time staying under 100$. Not sure I want supra-aural anymore, I'm willing to try something around the ears.

skinnyq
Aug 27, 2010, 07:39 PM
I am looking for a headset under $100, mainly for gaming (MW2, CS 1.6 - pinpointing enemies is a priority). I have an onboard soundcard (Realtek ALC889A), does that mean I need a USB headset?
I have heard about:
- Siberia V2 which all of my friends have.
- Creative Sound Blaster Arena
but no idea which is better.
anyway, I'm open to suggestions.

Frederik S
Aug 27, 2010, 07:56 PM
Creative headphones are basically Fostex design with another badge on them sold at a much higher price. They typically OEM the same headphones to several brands with Creative being one of the higher priced ones.

For gaming I think it is hard to beat the Audio-technica AD700s and 500s which I heard the other day. They sound really good. The first is also available in a closed back design which sounds a bit more tinny but has many of the same virtues which makes them good for gaming.

The JVC fullsized headphones sound really good compared to their price. They are definitely behind the Audio-technicas in terms of sound quality, but they are priced way lower which to my mind makes them one of the best headphones for gamers.

skinnyq
Aug 28, 2010, 12:31 AM
Creative headphones are basically Fostex design with another badge on them sold at a much higher price. They typically OEM the same headphones to several brands with Creative being one of the higher priced ones.

For gaming I think it is hard to beat the Audio-technica AD700s and 500s which I heard the other day. They sound really good. The first is also available in a closed back design which sounds a bit more tinny but has many of the same virtues which makes them good for gaming.

The JVC fullsized headphones sound really good compared to their price. They are definitely behind the Audio-technicas in terms of sound quality, but they are priced way lower which to my mind makes them one of the best headphones for gamers.
I already mentioned I have an onboard soundcard.
Would the AD700's still sound good enough for gaming?

Frederik S
Aug 28, 2010, 09:29 AM
Yes they would because they are relatively easy to drive. Of course they will sound better on a better card but for starters it is a good upgrade.

random
Aug 28, 2010, 09:51 AM
http://blog.verselogic.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sennhd215.jpg


The Good:

* Affordable
* Detachable cords for length & replacement convenience
* Comfortable light-weight design with studio level monitoring sound quality
* Highly detailed and accurate sounds with noise cancellation


The Bad:

* Appearance is too plastic
* May not be the headphones for Bass Junkies
* You get what you pay for



The Review:

Well after going through a couple of monitoring headphones, I found the Sennheiser HD 215 to have the most detailed and balanced sound. Most headphones within its price point usually either have too much treble or bass, but this model is crystal clear and on the spot. It goes hand in hand with my Auzentech X-Fi Forte for both gaming and music playing.

It may not have 5.1 spec but with a sound card that supports X-Fi CMSS-3D, there is no need for one. You get both 5.1 and studio quality music and sound which is more than what anyone can ask for at the price point of my Sound Card and Headphones together.

Summary:
Best studio quality & monitoring headphones I've tested to date. Wish I had money for the more expensive models :rockout:

AhokZYashA
Aug 28, 2010, 07:06 PM
how about the Audio Technica M50?

n-ster
Aug 28, 2010, 07:29 PM
very popular, bassy and "fun" colored sound, great for music and game IMO

Hayder_Master
Aug 29, 2010, 08:23 AM
hello guys, im look for best of the best gaming headset, not wireless
thx

majestic12
Aug 29, 2010, 08:45 AM
What's your budget?

I can recommend $100 dollar headphones, $500 headphones, $1,000+ headphones, etc. It's a really big market!

n-ster
Aug 29, 2010, 10:15 AM
best of the best would technically mean unlimited xD

random
Aug 29, 2010, 10:23 AM
Its personal preference!

majestic12
Aug 29, 2010, 11:21 AM
If I had a really high limit for my budget, I would choose a Sennheiser HD800 with a WooAudio 5 amp and a Headroom Ultra Micro DAC. The headphones run about $1300-$1400 USD, the amp is about $3000 USD, and the DAC is a bargain at around $700.

With a smaller budget, I'd go with a Sennheiser HD650 with a WooAudio 6 amp (or a little dot MKIV with better tubes) and probably use the DAC built into the sound card.


If an external headphone amp isn't much of an option, I would most likely go with Audio Technicas. The better models with open designs include the ATH-AD2000 which is amazing and work their way down to the AD700 or A700 (closed design) which are the lowest you'd probably want to go with. Don't get headphones that are targeted as "gaming headphones". A quality set of cans will blow them away in quality almost every time.

Edit: Another option for unamped headphones if the Sennheiser sound is wanted would be the HD595s. They're about to be switched out to a newer model (the HD598) which will translate into a lower price for the 595s. Their retail price varies quite a bit.

AhokZYashA
Aug 30, 2010, 05:51 PM
FWIR the ATH M50 is pretty balanced with a slight bump in the sub-bass section.
how is it for music and gaming?

Frederik S
Aug 30, 2010, 06:04 PM
They are alright for gaming as well. I slightly prefer the AD700s due to their better sound stage but they do not have the low end presence of the M50s.

inferKNOX
Sep 7, 2010, 02:04 PM
hello guys, im look for best of the best gaming headset, not wireless
thx

Roccat KAVE 5.1 (http://www.roccat.org/Products/Gaming-Sound/ROCCAT-Kave/) :rockout:

AhokZYashA
Sep 8, 2010, 11:18 AM
@Frederik S :
what headphone are you using for music?
what amp/DAC?

Frederik S
Sep 8, 2010, 11:28 AM
I am using the following setup at home:
HifiMAN HM-801 (via line out) -> Head-Direct EF1 (with sylvania grey plate tube) -> HifiMAN HE-5LE

On the go:
HifiMAN HM-801 (via line out) -> RSA Tomahawk -> Westone 3 / JH|16Pro

For gaming:
X-fi -> Audiotechnica AD700

AhokZYashA
Sep 8, 2010, 04:07 PM
wow...
thats quite an equipment you have there....
want to share hows your impression with them?

Frederik S
Sep 8, 2010, 04:31 PM
You can find the reviews of the pieces here:
http://techpowerup.com/reviews/?q_reviews=&p=1&pp=25&order=date&category=Headphones

And there will be an article about the other stuff soon.

catnipkiller
Sep 24, 2010, 09:13 PM
i have a logitech g35 and its great its only usb but has great sound and bass. it also comes with a build in voice changer i will try to make a review when i get the time but its my fave head set so far.

Wulfgar
Sep 26, 2010, 06:50 AM
I am considering the AKG K99 which is currently $69.99 at a local store:

http://www.long-mcquade.com/products/538/Pro_Audio_Recording/Headphones/AKG/K99_Semi_-_Open_Headphones.htm

What's best for gaming beween semi-open and closed ? Does anyone have any experience with AKG headphones ?

Btw, today I tried out the Sennheiser HD280Pro and the highly rated Audio-Technica AH-M30 on a high quality amp and rock music.

The Sennheiser sounded very good but it was too heavy and not very confortable overall. The M30 sounded like crap with distorted and muffled sound and the confort level was horrible. This made me realize that you can't trust online reviews when looking for headphones. Overall the K77 was the most confortable with decent sound (not up to 280 Pro quality). That's why the K99 might be a better choice, unfortunately I coudn't try them.

AhokZYashA
Sep 27, 2010, 01:39 PM
i think the one that highly rated are the M50 not the M30
the M30 sound is not that good..

for gaming i can suggest the ATH-AD700 for its massive soundstage.

Wulfgar
Sep 30, 2010, 07:52 PM
I couldn't find AD700 anywhere in Montreal Canada so those are pretty much out of the question.

So I went and bought the K99 and here are my impressions:

-very good for music and movies, solid bass
-decent for games
-decent noise cancelling aka I can't hear the PC rumbling

After a few hours of Mafia 2, the weapons lack some punch. The voices and the engines can be heard very clearly though.

The major dissapointment is the confort level. Don't get me wrong, some people might have no problem with these since they're very light. It pretty much depends on the shape of your ears. I have average size "wide" ears as opposed to large flat ears (for which they might be better suited) and the outer cartilage rubs against the inner part of the headphone. Therefore, after 30 mins or so my ears are burning and I have to take them off. I wish they were wider or maybe they should've added some soft padding inside the cans.

Since the store has a 10 day return policy, I won't be keeping them around for too long.

n-ster
Sep 30, 2010, 08:13 PM
Hey, I'm from MTL too :D I suggest you get your headphones from the US

raptori
Oct 5, 2010, 05:12 PM
does the Ear Force HPA2 5.1 still good competitor what should I consider if I'm Looking for something better ? I've read most of the this thread trying to make a decision but it's still hard and was surprised that creative SB Arena took the 1st place in Best Gaming Headset @bit-tech.net although many users reviews says its flimsy and lack sturdiness so its not considered for me.


budget :60-80$
purpose :1st gaming 2nd music

Hayder_Master
Oct 5, 2010, 08:32 PM
does the Ear Force HPA2 5.1 still good competitor what should I consider if I'm Looking for something better ? I've read most of the this thread trying to make a decision but it's still hard and was surprised that creative SB Arena took the 1st place in Best Gaming Headset @bit-tech.net although many users reviews says its flimsy and lack sturdiness so its not considered for me.


budget :60-80$
purpose :1st gaming 2nd music


guys me too, but for me add more budget range up to 120$

Kursah
Oct 7, 2010, 01:26 AM
Well raptori, the beginning of your post makes no sense.... "does the Ear Force HPA2 5.1 still good competitor what should I consider...". But I can manage as I am pretty sure I get what you're asking. :D

The HPA2 5.1 was by far the best gaming headset I had experience with (see the OP for my reviews)...but even the cheaper JVC HARX700's were better...though they were driven by an old Sound Blaster sound card...onboard is horrid in comparison from my experience. That CAN make a difference with gaming headsets and true headphones. I still support and stand behind the get the cheaper headphones, get the cheap Zalman Clip-on mic when you have a sound card or even also get a sound card for the same price as a mid-high-end headset and in reality but MUCH happier with sound volume, quality, position, ability and pretty much every area for much longer with much better durability (JVC HARX700 vs HPA2 for example...I have had both).

Step one, get a damn sound card...many will say no..but in reality they have cleaner output power which translates into better sound, crisper, deeper, higher, harder hitting, larger sounding, etc....then get the headphones...get what you can. Gaming headsets are good, and some are getting better...but I've still yet to hear any gaming headset that would deter me away from STILL recommending the JVC HARX700 + Zalman clip-on mic + old Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music combo...gaming headsets are the easy way...and for many work well and are good enough...until they hear what the same money could've achieved...then like me you're annoyed with lesser decisions and move on, do it right and get over it. Not all gaming headsets blow...but you'll spend dearly to attain one worth it and really "true 5.1" while impressive isn't great, and when an X-Fi with emulation and stereo headphones does just as good for less overall...why not go that route?


Just some food for thought. Please do read the OP, I have multiple links to different posted reviews in this thread along with my reviews in the OP.

:toast:

raptori
Oct 7, 2010, 04:00 PM
Kursah your right but I didn't explain it all

1:HPA2 5.1 released as far as I know in jun 2007 at least thats what reviews say and till now there r tons of headsets released since then so thats why the non-sense question "does the Ear Force HPA2 5.1 still good competitor"

2:the shipping cost for separate products (JVC HARX700 + Zalman clip-on mic) are expensive especially when it shipped from USA to our country(25$ for 1 pound of shipping weight), I know it looks like steeling but we r still lucky to get what we want considering all the rubbish in our market + we can get some small discount on overall cost

3:I've already read most of the posts in this thread and thats what makes me focus on all in one cost effective(in shipping) and good solution .

and thanks for all the efforts.

Frederik S
Oct 7, 2010, 07:45 PM
Raptori I think if you make one order on amazon you only pay shipping once. And the JVCs are sold on there as far as I can remember.

So maybe it is worth trying?

raptori
Oct 7, 2010, 10:15 PM
Raptori I think if you make one order on amazon you only pay shipping once. And the JVCs are sold on there as far as I can remember.

So maybe it is worth trying?

they are available now both the 700 and 900 JVCs
JVC HARX700 @35$
JVC HARX900 @59$

Kursah
Oct 7, 2010, 11:46 PM
Kursah your right but I didn't explain it all

1:HPA2 5.1 released as far as I know in jun 2007 at least thats what reviews say and till now there r tons of headsets released since then so thats why the non-sense question "does the Ear Force HPA2 5.1 still good competitor"

2:the shipping cost for separate products (JVC HARX700 + Zalman clip-on mic) are expensive especially when it shipped from USA to our country(25$ for 1 pound of shipping weight), I know it looks like steeling but we r still lucky to get what we want considering all the rubbish in our market + we can get some small discount on overall cost

3:I've already read most of the posts in this thread and thats what makes me focus on all in one cost effective(in shipping) and good solution .

and thanks for all the efforts.

HPA2 5.1 rev2 was released in late 2008, it uses USB power for the amp instead of 120v wall socket power. But around 2007 sounds right...I caught wind of them around the time CoD4 was released, prior to that I used garbage headsets.

Some like the Roccat Kave 5.1 (iirc that's the name) more... You did say your market is rubbish...but maybe theres a diamond in the rough somewhere over that way?

The JVC's are a good, affordable, and durable start for all around listening with decent gaming abilities. But if you're set on the HPA2's, they are pretty good and will sound louder and a tad crisper when connected directly to onboard audio due to having the in-line amplifier. Where as the JVC's will only use the power from the 3.5mm audio output...which is why a sound card with more power out would do both good. One thing about the HPA2's is that they're an open headphone...so sound leaks in and out. That's why I prefer closed like the JVC's (the 700's are semi-open, with a very, very small ring vent...but isolate decently). In my application I gotta have closed back 'phones to keep more sound in and intrusive sound out...that and keep my roommate sane lol. But the HPA2's can go very loud even off of onboard audio, and while some have done it, I really don't recommend the JVC's (which are pretty easy to power...the 700's at least are) without a dedicated sound card to push 'em.

Keep doing some research and asking questions, you'll get something that'll do the trick! :toast:

raptori
Oct 8, 2010, 02:02 PM
I just want to share some updates
I found a Sennheiser store but its kinda more dedicated towards TV channels products and here what I've found :
HD280 @ $125
HD215 @ $65
HD202 @$50

I think non of them will do the job especially at those prices but they have some good quality gold plated cables for future needs and here what I'm settled with

1-HPA2
2-JVC700 or 900 + clip on mic if I get good shipping discount

I'll give my review as soon as I get any of them

MT Alex
Oct 17, 2010, 04:03 PM
Do USB input headsets bypass the sound card?

Bo$$
Oct 17, 2010, 04:07 PM
Do USB input headsets bypass the sound card?

yes they do, they use their inbuild one :toast: hope that helps you

AhokZYashA
Oct 17, 2010, 05:07 PM
anybody here uses the K701 for gaming?

MT Alex
Oct 17, 2010, 05:31 PM
The K701s look nice, but out of my price range.

I'm torn bwtween the JVC RX700s and the Audio Technica ATH-AD700s. The $50 price difference isn't an issue, I have about $140 I want to spend on some cans. They are only for gaming, and I'm looking at getting a cheap X-Fi XtremeGamer from E-Bay. I just wanted positoning, and am sure this should be better than onboard. Unless someone has a X-Fi Forte they want to unload:)

The Witcher
Oct 17, 2010, 06:12 PM
Hi guys, I want to ask you what is the best headphones/headsets in this price range ($100 to $150)

Currently I've a Razer 5.1 headset, which has a decent sound quality but the positioning is just messed up because of compatibility issue in my motherboard.

First I was thinking about getting the PC 350 when it used to be $125, but now that they have released the PC 360 ($270) the prices of the 350 raised to almost $170.

I've seen many people here recommending the AD700, do you think that it's better than the Sennheiser PC300s ?

By the way, I'm looking for:

1. Best Sound quality possible.

2. Good sound staging.

3. A good bass (optional).

Thanks in advance.

The Witcher
Oct 17, 2010, 06:40 PM
ok, I've done a short research about the AD700, many people says that it has a very light bass, the question is, how light ?

I'm not a heavy music listener but I like to hear music when I do my projects :)

I hope that any AD700 could give me his feedback about the bass.

Sorry for asking too much questions

Thanks again

Kursah
Oct 17, 2010, 06:52 PM
The AD700's are highly recommended for gaming, they are open back so they leak sound in and out, but have a larger sound stage than many closed back headphones. They are also bass light and for that many will recommend them for gaming and not music as much...though with a good sound card and/or headphone amp you could EQ and push some more bass through them. Beyond that there are the A700's which are the same but closed back, so they will have more bass. Though I don't see them recommended nearly as much for gaming, being closed back their soundstage will be less open...which for some is a bunk deal.

I prefer closed headphones or semi-closed for the fact I need some sound isolation, I like good bass, and can't afford a monster open heapdhone that can produce good bass (again with the right driving setup). I recommend the JVC HARX 700's a lot because for the price and for someone going from headsets to headphones the change is generally very impressive, they are a great starter and at the price they have been at (around $33-40) they an amazing value.

What a lot of people at places like head-fi seem to end up is having an open gaming headphone and then something else tuned more for their musical preferences. I prefer a better all-in-one solution which means my headphones are the perfect gaming or music phones, but are capable of both at least decently to my ears. If you can, you may try to get to a guitar shop or similar to see if they have headphones on display, try different types to see what sound fits ya.

I am personally thinking of selling my Denon D2000's and going with a set of buyer DT990's or similar in the future...but I love the D2000's...It'll just be tough to spend so much on headphones again, when to my ears and after a couple quick and easy mods to the HARX700's...the D2000's really only beat them out in comfort and a little more open-ness in soundstage, a little more bass and a little more treble...none of which is worth $200+ when the JVC's are $35+. You may also check into the HARX 900, supposed to have even more bass capability and a more open soundstage though still being closed back.

I hear a ton of good about the AD700's for gaming, but that's about it...I'd rather not have 2-3 headphones to listen to games, movies and music. So that should definitely be some food for thought...I'm sure more suggestions will come this way, but also do check out head-fi.org for a lot more info on heapdhones.

:toast:

MT Alex
Oct 17, 2010, 07:51 PM
Thanks for the comprehensive response. I did check out Head-fi, and was happy to see a few of your posts there.

The HARX700s look tough to beat, I wish they looked more comfortable. I have an enoromous mongloidal head that my pea size brain rattles around in, and after suffering over a year in these Platronic bags of crap, I was looking to pamper aforementioned mellon in comfort.

The biggest drawback for me with the reportedly comfy a700s would be the open back. I usually game after the family has hit the rack, so a closed can would be much quiter, albeit hotter with a chance of sweat. I'm not a bass thumper, so a diminished low end would be fine.

Soylent Joe
Oct 17, 2010, 08:24 PM
What do guys think of the Corsair HS1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826816001&Tpk=Corsair%20HS1) headset? It looks pretty nice.

Ra97oR
Oct 17, 2010, 08:28 PM
anybody here uses the K701 for gaming?

I did that a while ago. Not too bad actually, still prefer my AD1000PRM so I sold it onwards.

MT Alex
Oct 17, 2010, 08:35 PM
What do guys think of the Corsair HS1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826816001&Tpk=Corsair%20HS1) headset? It looks pretty nice.

They spurred my question in post #301. I decided to take the good advice offered in this thread and get a $50 sound card and a 50ish dollar set of headphones, which I'm confident will give a much better result for the same price.

The HS2s do look nice, though. The video cannot be fully trusted, as no one will design and build something and then tell you it's mediocre.

Ra97oR
Oct 17, 2010, 08:47 PM
EssenceST + HA5000 + AD1000PRM is so awesome... I wonder should I try a higher-end source.

Tried using the DAC on my iBasso D2+, EssenceST sounds better hands down.

Soylent Joe
Oct 17, 2010, 08:48 PM
They spurred my question in post #301. I decided to take the good advice offered in this thread and get a $50 sound card and a 50ish dollar set of headphones, which I'm confident will give a much better result for the same price.

The HS2s do look nice, though. The video cannot be fully trusted, as no one will design and build something and then tell you it's mediocre.

Truth. I believe Corsair does know what they're doing in the sound dept., but it would probably be smart to wait for a future model. Buying a company's first model puts you in the position of a guinea pig.

The Witcher
Oct 18, 2010, 02:59 AM
Man, I really don't know, I'm afraid of buying the AD700 and ending up with no bass....

Maybe I should save money and get the AD900....

The Witcher
Oct 18, 2010, 03:09 PM
OK, I've limited the options to the AD700 and the ATH-M50.

ATH-AD700 (http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1287413173&sr=1-1): Price: $87

Pros:

1. Supposed to have an excellent sound stage.

2. It's an Open-air design which is more comfortable for me.

Cons:

1. Many complain about the bass, some say that it has very light bass, and some say that it doesn't any bass at all.



The ATH-M50 (http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B000ULAP4U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1287410903&sr=1-1): Price: $115

Pros:

1. Supposed to have a very good sound quality which some people claim that it even beats the Dr.Dre Beats headphones which are like x4 more expensive.

2. An excellent bass.

Cons:

1.It has closed-in-ear design (leather) which isn't comfortable for me.

2. I don't know about it's sound stage capability.

So guys, any suggestions ?

MT Alex
Oct 18, 2010, 03:22 PM
My ATH-AD700s will be here Wednesday. I'll let you know. I wouldn't worry, like Kursah said, bass can be dealt with in the EQ. I bought them strictly for gaming, however, so I'm not concerned. There are heaps of good info on almost all cans at Head-fi. I was totally confident in the recommendations about how good the JVCs are, I just had the extra cash.

I also bought a refurbished X-fi Xtreme Gamer. Not the best, I know, but will suffice for my needs. I was just after positioning. Besides that, my mATX doesn't have an extra PCI-E for something nice, so I had to rule out a Forte.

casual swift
Oct 26, 2010, 02:36 PM
Perfect I was looking for a thread on headphones. I wanted to talk about the Turtle Beach x41's. I invested in these last year. As you know they are optimized for xbox 360 but recently I started using them with my pc.

I really feel you get what you pay for with this set. Extremely light, excellent 5.1 sound quality. For determing locations based on sound alone these are the best headphones I have ever used. Battery life leaves something to be desired but I can lice with that as long as I'm stocked on rechargeable batteries. Overall, 5/5.

I don't know if anybody else has these, but the only problem if using them with a pc is that the mic connection uses what I BELIEVE is a 2.5mm jack. (the smaller connection used on the xbox controllers). There's some figuring you need to do to get the mic to work properly with your sound card but I will investigate this further and get back to you.

Hayder_Master
Nov 8, 2010, 05:23 AM
i have turtle beach HPA-2 with real 5.1, well it have great sound but seems my bad luck give me a piece with bad amplifier it's have problems when i put it in creative x-fi titanium so i should put it in built in realtek sound to make it work, i lose some quality but still work nice

Frederik S
Nov 10, 2010, 07:25 PM
Perfect I was looking for a thread on headphones. I wanted to talk about the Turtle Beach x41's. I invested in these last year. As you know they are optimized for xbox 360 but recently I started using them with my pc.

I really feel you get what you pay for with this set. Extremely light, excellent 5.1 sound quality. For determing locations based on sound alone these are the best headphones I have ever used. Battery life leaves something to be desired but I can lice with that as long as I'm stocked on rechargeable batteries. Overall, 5/5.

I don't know if anybody else has these, but the only problem if using them with a pc is that the mic connection uses what I BELIEVE is a 2.5mm jack. (the smaller connection used on the xbox controllers). There's some figuring you need to do to get the mic to work properly with your sound card but I will investigate this further and get back to you.

You can buy micro-jack to mini-jack converters online.

SabreWulf69
Nov 10, 2010, 07:37 PM
Has anyone tried a ASUS Xonar Essence STX + Shure SRH840 Combo? If so what was/is it like price to performance wise?

CJCerny
Nov 10, 2010, 07:46 PM
OK, I've limited the options to the AD700 and the ATH-M50.

ATH-AD700 (http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1287413173&sr=1-1): Price: $87

Pros:

1. Supposed to have an excellent sound stage.

2. It's an Open-air design which is more comfortable for me.

Cons:

1. Many complain about the bass, some say that it has very light bass, and some say that it doesn't any bass at all.



The ATH-M50 (http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B000ULAP4U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1287410903&sr=1-1): Price: $115

Pros:

1. Supposed to have a very good sound quality which some people claim that it even beats the Dr.Dre Beats headphones which are like x4 more expensive.

2. An excellent bass.

Cons:

1.It has closed-in-ear design (leather) which isn't comfortable for me.

2. I don't know about it's sound stage capability.

So guys, any suggestions ?

All closed headphones, including the M50, do not have much of a soundstage. What they do have is bass. That is the nature of a closed headphone.

WhiteLotus
Nov 10, 2010, 07:48 PM
Why have only just discovered this thread?!?!? Keep it up guys!

Fourstaff
Nov 10, 2010, 07:54 PM
Why have only just discovered this thread?!?!? Keep it up guys!

This thread starts and stops whenever it likes, and people head over to Head-fi for better news, reviews and stuff.

majestic12
Nov 11, 2010, 02:42 AM
This thread starts and stops whenever it likes, and people head over to Head-fi for better news, reviews and stuff.

You read my mind with that. Head-fi has as much about headphones and accessories as TPU has about computers.

MT Alex
Nov 11, 2010, 02:44 AM
If it wasn't for this thread, I wouldn't have known about Head-fi :)

Kursah
Nov 12, 2010, 01:20 AM
This thread starts and stops whenever it likes, and people head over to Head-fi for better news, reviews and stuff.

Yep this thread was inspired by my experiences at Head-Fi and my willingness to share it here on TPU seeing as noone else had done anything close to what this thread started as or has become. Thanks to all those that have donated their experiences, and I plan to add some more in the future. This is thread starts and stops when someone needs help finding headphones/headsets, though at the end of the day this is a hard topic because of so many variables from source, ears, listening preference, driving power, etc...it may be a humble effort, but I figured it would be better than nothing at all.

:toast:

n-ster
Nov 12, 2010, 02:37 AM
better this way than scattered threads about headphones once every 2 months

Frederik S
Nov 12, 2010, 04:56 PM
Please remember that we actually have one headphone related review per two weeks on average: Review section - Headphones filter on (http://techpowerup.com/reviews/?q_reviews=&p=1&pp=25&order=date&category=Headphones)

Kursah
Nov 13, 2010, 12:57 AM
Please remember that we actually have one headphone related review per two weeks on average: Review section - Headphones filter on (http://techpowerup.com/reviews/?q_reviews=&p=1&pp=25&order=date&category=Headphones)

Please remember, that I have also linked TPU's headphone reviews by our very own Frederik S in at the top spot in my review listings detailed on the OP review grid: *TPU's Headphone/Headset Thread ORIGINAL POST* (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=100173)

:toast:

motasim
Nov 16, 2010, 04:47 AM
... firstly; thank you Kursah, and all the guys for the nice effort ...

... I have a question for the experts; I'm building an HTPC gaming rig and I'm not sure which sound card to get. Main use is gaming ( in which case it'll be paired with Sennheiser PC 360 G4ME headset) and watching Blu-ray movies (in which case it'll be paired with a surround sound-bar type speakers [Yamaha YSP-2200 Digital Sound Projector]), I'm considering many sound cards (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=134577) but quite inclined to go with Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD, what do you think guys? ...

Count Shagula
Nov 17, 2010, 01:46 PM
Has anyone tried a ASUS Xonar Essence STX + Shure SRH840 Combo? If so what was/is it like price to performance wise?

I dont have any Shure cans. I do have many Senns 555/595/650/598 coming in the mail, some AT's and BeyerD's. All sound absolutely stunning when connected to the STX. Love this soundcard :)

-1nf1n1ty-
Nov 17, 2010, 01:48 PM
dont forget to try out your headphones in the virtual barber shop!

http://www.noob.us/entertainment/amazing-digital-surround-sound-virtual-barbershop/

raptori
Nov 17, 2010, 07:41 PM
dont forget to try out your headphones in the virtual barber shop!

http://www.noob.us/entertainment/amazing-digital-surround-sound-virtual-barbershop/

epic, amazing, perfect

motasim
Nov 17, 2010, 08:07 PM
... firstly; thank you Kursah, and all the guys for the nice effort ...

... I have a question for the experts; I'm building an HTPC gaming rig and I'm not sure which sound card to get. Main use is gaming ( in which case it'll be paired with Sennheiser PC 360 G4ME headset) and watching Blu-ray movies (in which case it'll be paired with a surround sound-bar type speakers [Yamaha YSP-2200 Digital Sound Projector]), I'm considering many sound cards (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=134577) but quite inclined to go with Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD, what do you think guys? ...

... ehmmmm ... guys? :wtf: ...

Fourstaff
Nov 17, 2010, 08:45 PM
... ehmmmm ... guys? :wtf: ...

Eh, you missed my earlier post? (about how this thread is slow)

While I don't have much experience on recommending sound cards, I would stay away from Creative unless you are fine with frustration, something along the lines of Claro XT? or Asus Xonar Essence/D2x?

Kursah
Nov 18, 2010, 05:05 AM
Meh...many people say they're frustrated with Creative cards...I honestly haven't had that much frustration with lower to mid-end creative cards, but had heard about a ton of bad about the first gen PCI-e Creative cards. Not so much now-a-days with people I know and work with on builds. There is plenty to search for here on the forums motasim, along with your own thread. This thread is more about headphones as the primary topic more than anything (hence the title :P ), not really set towards speakers or sound cards.

But I do highly recommend the Auzen X-Fi Forte for it's solid use of Creative's X-Fi chip and drivers, and adding a dedicated and moddable headphone amplifier. It's a solid performer, solid drivers and fairly spendy if you can find one...but worth every penny for someone like me that uses it on a daily basis, be it music, movies or games. Auzen, Asus and Creative all make good cards, but I will say it seems Auzen and Asus provide more bang for the buck. It also seems Asus is more towards the Music listeners and Auzen is more towards the gamers. There are actually quite a few good options out there, but even getting a used Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music (read my reviews in the OP), it'll make a HUGE difference between onboard audio...though with speakers..that I cannot answer as I rarely use my Logitech X-230 2.1 speakers...and the sub has the speaker amp...so it's a pretty simple unit, but sounds pretty good with eq tuning and get's the job done when I need more than headphones.

Hope that helps man! But please next time, keep in mind this thread is for headphones, that's what I dedicated it to...and yes it is slow for that reason as Fourstaff pointed out..hopefully we'll start seeing more TPU user headphone reviews submitted, but if not the OP has plenty of links to getcha going if you decide to take the headphone route.

:toast:

majestic12
Nov 18, 2010, 06:10 AM
... ehmmmm ... guys? :wtf: ...

The PC360 doesn't have the toughest of requirements to get a lot out of it. It's a combination of low-impedance (50ohms?) and high sensitivity (112dB+/-) which should be fine with most any sound card, but the standard for higher quality usually leads one to the Xonar Essence line. I think I recommended the used X-fi that was offered for cheap, because if it doesn't work well, you can always sell it for what you paid and get something better.

MT Alex
Nov 26, 2010, 04:26 PM
How do all of you keep your cans when not in use? I just leave them lying on my desk, but I can see how that may eventually make them misshapen. I have seen pics of people that have mannequin heads to keep them on, but that seems a little bit much.

Kursah
Nov 26, 2010, 04:31 PM
I use those 3m wall hooks with the command removable strips to hang them. Works out very well..some guys on Head Fi use bananna hangers, etc. It's just nice to keep the headphones off my desk and outta the way when I don't use them, granted I also have a lot of other crap on my desk lol so it's just one more layer that needs cleared off.

MT Alex
Dec 2, 2010, 04:45 AM
Thanks for the good idea, the command hook works great. Plus I hung my wife's broom in the closet with one of the others:laugh:


http://img.techpowerup.org/101202/003.jpg

Mussels
Dec 2, 2010, 04:49 AM
Thanks for the good idea, the command hook works great. Plus I hung my wife's broom in the closet with one of the others:laugh:


http://img.techpowerup.org/101202/003.jpg

i tend to just have my hanging like this

http://img.techpowerup.org/101202/Capture122.jpg

n-ster
Dec 2, 2010, 04:59 AM
i tend to just have my hanging like this

http://img.techpowerup.org/101202/Capture122.jpg

I am now using this method thanks to you :p Never thought of it... you'd think they'd fall but they don't at all

MT Alex
Dec 2, 2010, 05:15 AM
That just blew my mind. Works smashingly.

-1nf1n1ty-
Dec 2, 2010, 07:17 AM
Im going to put you guys to work lol. My friend wants a headset for gaming, but he mainly wants it for music he listens to a LOT of music thats actually how his first headset died he turns it up really loud and listens to music. I showed him a couple of headphones and gaming headsets and he still doesnt know I'd name you all what I showed him but I dont remember most of them. price range is about 150 nothing more than that good luck guys! And thanks for the huge help.

Headphones I've showed him:
AD700
HD555
Astro Gaming Headset
Tritton 5.1
This is all I can remember

xBruce88x
Dec 2, 2010, 02:52 PM
here's another pair to show him... http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.169420200/parentCategoryID.35096300/categoryId.40856100

what's his budget...

as for where i put my cans... i usually have my comp "wear" them when not in use lol. They're a set of White-Westinghouse WHP-2024. They have pretty good sound and great bass.

majestic12
Dec 2, 2010, 06:58 PM
I'm waiting on the Mrs. to make me some headphone stands out of stained glass. Until then, I'm keeping the headphones I use the most on the top level of my desk.
http://img.techpowerup.org/101202/CA3C0204.jpg

Crap Daddy
Dec 2, 2010, 07:38 PM
This is my first post here. It's a great forum and I visit daily, since I quit drinking three years ago I developed a strage interest in al things PC plus my son is an avid gamer (he's 15 now). That a very short intro and now on to this topic. We have a pair of Roccat Kave (headset with detachable mic) which are 5.1 "real" which means they are fed by 4 jacks analogue straight from the soundcard (Asus Xonar D1, the one which is PCI compared to Xonar DX which is PCI- E otherwise they are the same soundcards). Since we live in Europe and Roccat is a company from Germany it is easier to find these here. High quality product, leather and aluminium, solid, great design and finish but most of all they sound great in 5.1 games and movies. Very good reviews out there, if you want to check others more specialised than me. For music they are just good and not exceptional mainly because the sound you will hear comes only through front speakers - stereo -(every can has three speakers incorporated). I'm not much of a headset fan, my son is in charge as I prefer the amplifier and speakers, exclusive stereo - I listen to lots of music. So, if you are into gaming and movies and real 5.1 through headphones then with a Kave and a good soundcard you can't go wrong. If your main target is music then go for Senns, AKG, Beyer Dynamic or whatever you consider OK. I might add that those would cost more.

MT Alex
Dec 2, 2010, 07:42 PM
I have wondered about the performance of those Roccats, they have a wonderful styling. With a multiple channelled headphone, do you select 5.1 in your soundcard control panel, or stick with the headphone setting?
Thanks for the info. Also, welcome:)

Crap Daddy
Dec 2, 2010, 08:08 PM
You do select from the soundcard panel to output to 5.1. Our Xonar has also Dolbys galore but what Dolby does is to emulate surround on stereo headphones. We do not use this because with Kave they have separate channels and also you have a desk remote control on the cord with which you can adjust levels - with nice sliders - on four separate channels front, center, sub and rear plus a general volume control and mic mute. So you output directly the sound that is processed by the soundcard. You have to pass through your soundcard's control panel or through onboard sound but remember also to tell Windows about that. If you have set the output through Kave to be 5.1 and you have only stereo - as in music - then you will hear only the front speakers regardless of the settings in the controls panel. But believe me, music also sounds good. Did I mention that they also vibrate at some low frequencies - great for some gamers.

-1nf1n1ty-
Dec 2, 2010, 09:56 PM
here's another pair to show him... http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.169420200/parentCategoryID.35096300/categoryId.40856100

what's his budget...


his budget is 150(not including tax and crap)

MT Alex
Dec 2, 2010, 10:26 PM
I don't think I would ever want to own another pair with drivers smaller than 50mm. Much more comfy. Something to consider.

Kursah
Dec 3, 2010, 12:08 AM
Im going to put you guys to work lol. My friend wants a headset for gaming, but he mainly wants it for music he listens to a LOT of music thats actually how his first headset died he turns it up really loud and listens to music. I showed him a couple of headphones and gaming headsets and he still doesnt know I'd name you all what I showed him but I dont remember most of them. price range is about 150 nothing more than that good luck guys! And thanks for the huge help.

Headphones I've showed him:
AD700
HD555
Astro Gaming Headset
Tritton 5.1
This is all I can remember

Does he have a decent sound card? If not, I'd recommend (as I usually do) a good sound card (possibly with an integrated HP amp) and a pair of JVC HARX700/900.

the AD700 is good for gaming, but most dislike for music, no bass, no impact, very tinny on music. HD555 I'm not entirely sure, but I'm sure it'd be ok.

Honestly, I'd rather see him get a real pair of headphones and a Zalman clip-on mic. The JVC's are VERY durable, they are large tho. But they put out some serious sound and can have a very ample amount of bass. They work well for gaming also. Plus they've blown away every gaming headset I've ever owned, and when modded (to my ears) compete with a $200+ set of Denon D2000's sound-wise....for closer to $30-40 (or used to be, I got my HARX700 for $34 shipped from Buy.com over a year ago...). Just some food for thought, check out the OP as I did submit quite a few reviews along with a list of user submitted reviews and TPU HP/Headset reviews.

Find out what he's after beyond loud sound, find out what he's driving them with, if he wants open headphones that leak sound in and out but have a larger sound stage or closed that or more isolated with more bass. All of the headphones you list all excel well in certain areas, but I don't think any are really directly comparable. Honestly I'd add a few more to the list...if he's more for music, and likes an agressive sound for rock, etc, and doesn't mind open, he might consider the Grado SR60i for around $60-80-ish. There's a lot of options, and while Gaming Headsets simplify this, the quality of sound is sacrificed and most don't even realize it. That's why I push for people go spend $30-40 instead of $150 to see what they can achieve with headphones and then go from there. I also highly recommend a sound card, even an old X-Fi Xtreme Music as mine ran my headphones quite well, had a very useful EQ and could crank some serious volume...it simply crushed onboard sound in direct comparisons using my JVC HARX700 for testing.

Hope that helps! :toast:

-1nf1n1ty-
Dec 3, 2010, 02:42 AM
Great stuff thanks it helps quite a bit. He does have a sound card it is a fatality xfi sound card. I have AD700's I showed him but he doesnt seem interested in headphones that huge sitting on your head

ShadowGA
Dec 19, 2010, 10:01 AM
Hi,
My Steelseries 5HV2 headset is beginning to fail - i have to punch it sometimes to get sound it both sides, so some connection is loose i suspect. Therefore I am looking to get a new one to replace it.

I really liked the comfort in this headset with the open ear pads that surrounds the ears - so a new headset should preferably be similar in this way, and I'd also like a new headset to have a microphone attached if possible. However, can external microphones work well enough for communication when gaming? This would open up for some more possibilities.

I havevn't been particular happy with the sound quality in this Steelseries, it is very high pitched and any kind of low frequency bass is completely non-existant. It's especially irritating when listening to music, it sounds very dull.

I have been looking a bit on Sennheiser RS 160, but it doesn't have a microphone. Do you have any suggestions? Will wireless even work alright?

I use the headphones for both music (just at home at the PC, so no requirements in terms of being portable) and gaming.

ShiBDiB
Dec 19, 2010, 11:18 AM
theirs a sticky..

*TPU's Gaming Headphone/Headset Thread* (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=100173&highlight=headset)

ShadowGA
Dec 19, 2010, 11:30 AM
Ah ok sry didnt see that :)
However, it doesn't seem like there are so much info on the RS 170.

I did a little more research and it seems like the Sennheiser HD 360 is a really nice headset - it's wired but got a mic too.

The RS 170 and HD 360 are about the same price, so which one of these would you recommend? I'll probably be using them about equally much for gaming and music listening.

Mussels
Dec 19, 2010, 12:12 PM
ask in the stickied thread, at least there users with the knowledge you seek will all be in one place.

Fourstaff
Dec 19, 2010, 12:14 PM
Alternatively, head towards Head-fi, they are nuts about their headphones.

-1nf1n1ty-
Dec 20, 2010, 08:04 PM
Hi guys and merry Christmas! I need some help, I am looking for a pair of ear buds they can be in ear or just normal buds just something for my mp3 player you can either give me a company or just give me some links to really good ones. I know you guys can do this you helped out my friend quite a lot and he is going for the razer megalodon headset thanks for the help everyone!

MT Alex
Dec 21, 2010, 03:31 AM
Head Direct RE0s are some of the best made, and only $79, down from $200.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Head-Direct/RE0/4.html
http://www.head-direct.com/product_detail.php?p=38

I have the RE2s, and I love them. Wear them all day long at work. They are a little light on bass, but very precise. They are now $29, down from $99.
http://www.head-direct.com/product_detail.php?p=23

-1nf1n1ty-
Dec 21, 2010, 03:57 AM
Head Direct RE0s are some of the best made, and only $79, down from $200.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Head-Direct/RE0/4.html
http://www.head-direct.com/product_detail.php?p=38

I have the RE2s, and I love them. Wear them all day long at work. They are a little light on bass, but very precise. They are now $29, down from $99.
http://www.head-direct.com/product_detail.php?p=23

Holy crap! thanks! Imma definitely check out these

Kursah
Dec 21, 2010, 03:59 AM
Hi guys and merry Christmas! I need some help, I am looking for a pair of ear buds they can be in ear or just normal buds just something for my mp3 player you can either give me a company or just give me some links to really good ones. I know you guys can do this you helped out my friend quite a lot and he is going for the razer megalodon headset thanks for the help everyone!

For around $20 shipped I picked up the Meelec M9's, and I gotta say I'm very impressed. I use them with my Sansa Fuze v2 w/Rockbox...pretty damn amazing and can provide very good sound. I used JVC HA-FX34 Marshmallows before..and while I was impressed with those...the M9's are amazing in comparison. Though I don't use them for gaming at all or the sort so I haven't posted a review here yet.

And right now with every pair purchased at $19.99, a pair is sent overseas to our military...how cool is that? Along with that you get a solid pair of buds, a case, cable organizer and 3 extra sets of rubber cushions. And they sound very good for the price imho.

http://www.meelec.com/MEElectronics_M9_Hi_Fi_Sound_Isolating_Earphone_p/earphone-m9-mee-og.htm

AhokZYashA
Dec 22, 2010, 06:46 PM
a small review of the ATH-M50 from Audio Technica

got them for 150US$ from the local shop :)

Pro :
- Very easy to drive (15% on windows is loud enough)
- Exceptional Sound Quality for its price
- Circumaural (doesn't touch your ear)
- superb isolation
- coiled cord (win)
- good soundstage for closed headphone
- sparkly treble and extension is good
- bass extension, quality, quantity is one of the best for its price
- a bit recessed mid
- suitable for all music genre

Cons :
- a bit heavy on the head
- a bit tight clamping
- ears can get hot after 2-3hours of use


the review :
when i first received this headphone, im a bit dissapointed of its sound quality, bass is a bit boomy, treble extension is average. after listening for about 45 minutes, bass tightens up, treble is more sparkly, and extension on both ends improves, soundstage also increased,
i first tried it with Ichiban no Takaramono (Original Ver.), all of the instrument sound so clear and separated, the piano, the bass and the guitar all sounds separated and full.
when i changed to bass heavy song, this headphone can produce deep bass (30Hz-50Hz), without breaking a sweat, the bass doesnt covers other frequency spectrum,

the frequency response of this headphone is flat with a slight bump on the low bass section and a slight dip on the midrange section, is sound signature is not fatiguing for long session listening and for gaming, ears do get hot a bit, but its still very comfortable cans to wear,
its not as comfortable as AD700 or AD1000PRM, but its very comfortable for a studio monitoring headphone.

i've never tried this headphone for gaming, but im pretty sure it can do better than the PC350 that AFAIk uses HD595 driver but in a closed cup,

and M50 sounds better than almost all of the gaming headphones under 200US$ mark,
:):)

imperialreign
Dec 24, 2010, 06:15 PM
A little revival on my part, eh?

http://www.platformnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Tritton-AX720.jpg


Tritton AX720 - :shadedshu


Pros:

Semi-optical input
Supports Dolby Digital and Pro Logic II
Removable microphone
Compatible with PC, xBox and PS3

Cons:

Somewhat uncomfortable ear pieces
Slightly heavy design
Spiderweb connectivity
(For PC users) Designed more friendly for consoles
2-channel output
Rather expensive (about $130 USD)

Review:

I had high hopes for this headset, but was rather disappointed. For playback, one must make use of a decoder box (which comes with the headset), which brings me to my first major gripe with the unit: connectivity. A few wires here and there is alright, but the decoder box uses a DC adapter which must be plugged into a wall outlet. This is understandable for console users as USB connections are rather limited . . . but, IMHO, the option to have the decoder powered by USB should've been available. Even with console users, having to hunt down another free wall outlet can be a chore in the first place. Input to the decoder is handled via a rather short optical cable, which limits the decoder's placement to whatever unit you're hooking up to. From there, an analogue PS2 cable connects the box to the headset. If you're using an xBox or PS3, there's further connections to be made for xBox Live support or Voice to PS3. On the bright side, the decoder box supports two headset outputs - should you have a friend over for a gaming session. Still, you're left with a mess of wires going every which way from the decoder box - couple with the massive amounts of connections already in place from your PC or console, it can simply add to the mess.

The decoder box itself must have it's power turned on to recieve any playback, and the unit has it's own volume +/- buttons . . . for PC users, output from the decoder does not appear to be affected by your audio driver software, and not all applications seem to affect it either; this results in the need to adjust volume levels at the decoder. There is an in-line unit which allows the user to adjust volume and microphone levels (as well as turning on the in-line output amp), but some further volume adjustment will be necessary at the box. Dolby output can be turned on and off at the box, and the unit supports a couple of different playback options - either "movie/game" mode or "music" mode, which adjusts how sounds are "positioned" for playback. The unit itself is rather lightweight, and seems of fairly sturdy construction.

Playback is excellent for 2-channel, even more-so with Dolby support . . . but, at the same time, you're stuck with 2-channel support (where-as Dolby support sounds tons better with an actual multi-channel setup). If your audio hardware supports it, you can kinda "fake" 4.1 or 5.1 playback . . . DDL takes up the slack in "expanding" the output to sound more like you're actually using a multi-channel setup, coupled with most PC audio hardware that's capable of positional audio. But you're still left with a stereo channel mix, which sounds extremelly evident in media which supports true multi-channel playback (some forms of audio, HD-DVD/Blu Ray, some games, etc.) . . . sounds which would originate from the rear tend to have a muddy sound which affects forward placement as well. A big gripe I have, though, is that they've used the optical connectivity as a major selling point, when instead the headset is actually using analogue. Sure, there's the digital connectivity between your hardware and the decoder box, but from there's it's passed to an analogue PS2 connector, then to two 3.5mm mini-jacks at the "break-away" connector (one for the headphones, the other for mic).

The headset itself can be a little uncomfortable, although they're very sturdy. The ear pieces are rectangular in nature, and the padding is quite stiff. They do an excellent job of isolating outside sounds, though, but don't offer much breathability. I don't foresee this unit mearly falling apart from being roughed around - they definitely designed it to stand up to the abuse gamers put their equipment through. The in-line controller incorporates a "break-away" design, where the unit will split in two should you both ends of the cable be pulled hard enough. In instances where one end of the cable has become entangled around something, you don't need to worry about ripping the headset off your head . . . but, if the cable is being pulled at the decoder box, it's lightweight design will ensure the box is pulled off of wherever it's sitting . . .

Once up and running, I set these headsets through a slew of playback tests with two different audio cards: a Creative X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty supporting native optical and an Auzentech X-Fi Bravura 7.1 with the optical-coaxial digital adapter - I wanted to hear how this headset would sound when paired with an upper-end gaming audio card, and an upper-end "audiophile" card.

I used the following for music playback:

Front Line Assembly - "Providence" - a broad electronic track, with lots of percussion, accompanied by synthlines, samples and opera-esque vocals. Reproduction was decent. The vocals were clear, as was the synthlines and background sounds and samples. The percussion tracks felt weak, though, especially the timpani drums rolling in the background (which give this track it's true sense of power). The track felt a little muddy without the expanse multi-channel playback provides, with the bass and drums frequently overlapping each other. Otherwise, the track's broad range kept from focusing too heavily on the weaknesses of the headset.

Hybrid - "Finished Symphony" - another broad electronic track, combining elements of techno and trance with an actual symphony. The electronic portions of this track were clear and crisp, but the sound of the strings suffered greatly. Instead of the strings feeling like they're driving the track forward, it sounded more like they were simply along for the ride. With the many quieter parts of the track, the headset's weaknesses became really apparent, especially with bass reproduction.

Gorillaz - "Dirty Harry" - good track with strong vocals, percussion and keyboard. Playback was rather quite excellent with this track. Bass repoduction (which had been a weakness of the last two tracks) sounded excellent with the Gorillaz tight bass lines. Vocals were clear as well. The keyboard line wasn't as clear as I like to hear, but it didn't sound like it was being heavily drowned out, either.

The Offspring - "You're Gonna Go Far Kid" - Typical rock track. Another track with excellent playback. Cymbals and guitar were extremely clear and crisp, as were the vocals, and the bass line wasn't drowning out the track. Drums sounded a little weak, though.

СЛОТ - "Конец света — нет Интернет@" - Another typical rock track, although heavy on the bass and drums. Playback was decent, but not great. Vocals and guitar were clear, both the track's bass and drums just sounded like a muddy mess, losing a lot of power from this track.

For gaming, I played about an hour in Metro2033, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Crysis and STALKER: Call of Pripyat. Across all titles, playback was similar in performance. Gunshots were crips and clear, as were many ambient sounds and much of the in-game music. Explosions were crisp as well, but lacking in bass. The biggest weakness I noticed was in positional audio. All titles are known for having exceptional audio engines and playback positioning, but many times I felt disoriented trying to locate where sounds were coming from . . . especially during instances when there was a lot going on nearby - sounds were drowning each other out quite frequently. For slower paced games, this headset would probably be alright, but has a hard time standing up to numerous nearby sounds.

Overall, I'm rather disappointed with this unit - at least at the unit's $130 USD price, and would be hard pressed to recommend this unit to any avid PC gamer. Perhaps if true 5.1 output were provided (instead of the 2-channel output), it's price would seem more justified . . . but, I've used other units priced much lower that have better sound output. Playback is decent, but not impressive in the least, even with Dolby support. Comparatively, Razer's Baraccuda HP-1 headset sounds night and day better than this unit, and is nearly half the price (although it lacks digital connectivity and Dolby support). The optical connectivity marketing point is misleading (IMHO), as optical/digital does not exist between the decoder box and the speakers.

My final recommendation: pass on these and look for something else. :toast:

imperialreign
Dec 24, 2010, 07:09 PM
On a side note, I'm trying to get a hold of a pair of these: Pioneer SE-DIR800C (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Headphones/Headband/SE-DIR800C) for testing.

Kinda nervous by the "virtual" 5.1 provided by Dolby (the headset is only 2-channel) and it's "wireless" setup, but the specs are impressive and the headset gets superb reviews (not surprising, IMHO, considering the manufacturer).

Will keep y'all posted :toast:

Kursah
Dec 24, 2010, 07:14 PM
As long as the Dolby Headset part is a controllable feature like X-Fi's CMMS-3D you'll be fine. I use CMMS in games only, FPS primarily...really beyond that it's not useful to me...and it generally destroys music, though there are some songs I do enjoy with it enabled.

The specs are impressive for sure, but I just dunno about wireless. Keep us posted for sure!

I think I'll stick with my JVC and Denon headphones for now! Though I am still debating trying something different along the lines of Grado or Beyer DT880 or 990. Will have to wait till spring or later at this point though.

BumbleBee
Dec 24, 2010, 07:20 PM
I need headphones for my receiver. thinking of Denon AH-D1001 or Shure SRH440.

imperialreign
Dec 24, 2010, 07:34 PM
As long as the Dolby Headset part is a controllable feature like X-Fi's CMMS-3D you'll be fine. I use CMMS in games only, FPS primarily...really beyond that it's not useful to me...and it generally destroys music, though there are some songs I do enjoy with it enabled.

The specs are impressive for sure, but I just dunno about wireless. Keep us posted for sure!

I think I'll stick with my JVC and Denon headphones for now! Though I am still debating trying something different along the lines of Grado or Beyer DT880 or 990. Will have to wait till spring or later at this point though.

I'm kinda worried over the Dolby upmixing - even with something like CMSS behind it. Really, with the last headset I just reviewed, having CMSS available was really their only saving grace - but, I tried to keep the review as much to the headset as possible and not what you'd need to make them sound better :p

I'm simply in the market for something to replace my beat-down Barracuda's . . . I'd prefer to stay with true 5.1, or find true 7.1, but they're few and far between. It seems over the last year there's been an influx of "5.1" marketing, where manufacturers are adding Dolby support simply so they can claim 5.1 output, whether the headset is actual capable of native or not - and they they tend to neglect the number and/or types of drivers, and/or the frequency response (numerous drivers tend to have a few different FR listed - or a very broad range listed) in their specs :wtf:.

IDK . . . I've come to the conclusion over the last two years that the whole of the audio market has suffered greatly from consumer ignorance. Manufacturer's have gone on a marketing propaganda spree, simpyl because the consumer doesn't have any idea what they're looking at. :ohwell:

BumbleBee
Dec 24, 2010, 07:48 PM
take a look at Turtle Beach they have a couple models now with multiple drivers.

Kursah
Dec 24, 2010, 07:58 PM
Yeah my HPA2's were a solid gaming headset, used them for years (see OP for review). Still one of the best gaming headsets I've tried...but now I'm spoiled by a true headphone, and just can't go back to a headset. My HPA2 mix and a couple zip ties turns any headphone I use into a headset. I gotta say my D2000 still do a sweet job for gaming audio and provide a good sense of space considering they're a closed can. The HPA2 were open though, and while they were damn good...I'd still take a pair of JVC HARX700 over them or any gaming headset I've tried to date...especially after a couple easy mods.

:toast:

AhokZYashA
Dec 24, 2010, 08:03 PM
btw,, ill take a K701 with a matrix M-Stage over anything for gaming
you should try those combo..

fullinfusion
Dec 30, 2010, 06:21 PM
sennheiser pc-350 LINK (http://www.sennheiser.com/comm/icm_eng.nsf/root/502141?Open&print=#)

I received this gaming head set for x-mas from the wife and so far I love them.

PRO'S
-nice and lite
-long cord
-closed can and they don't touch the ears
-nice soft foam around cans for hours of game play or listening to music
-collapsible for easy storage
-great sound and haven't had a hint of distortion even with the bass thumping
-excellent clarity from mic as I've been told by others while gaming
-excellent for killing the out side noise even when turned off
CONS

-not usb plug style
-thats all really

fullinfusion
Dec 30, 2010, 06:40 PM
Sorry for the double post but I need help with sound settings.
This headset is my first real good gaming set and I'd like to know, is there a trick most use to get the best sound outta there head set?

I mean...

I play with the EQ settings while listening to MP3's and have the sound matched to my likeness.
But when I jump into a game it's like holly crap!!! BASS!!!! I need to lower the volume as my bones are vibrating lol. But really is there a setting I need to be concerned about for proper gaming sound?

hear, I took some screen shots on what my settings are at. If there is something off would you kind ppl please help guide me on what needs to be adjusted?

http://img.techpowerup.org/101230/1.png

http://img.techpowerup.org/101230/2.png

http://img.techpowerup.org/101230/3.png

http://img.techpowerup.org/101230/4.png

http://img.techpowerup.org/101230/5.png

http://img.techpowerup.org/101230/6.png

MT Alex
Dec 30, 2010, 07:06 PM
I'm not familiar with the Supreme Onboard X-Fi, but on stand alone Creative cards there are three modes, Entertainment, Gamer, and Create. If this is true on your onboard X-Fi, then set up a sound configuration that you like in Gamer Mode, and simply switch to that mode via the console launcher prior to gaming.

I always do this for mine, because I have Entertainment Mode set up for 5.1, and gamer mode is for my headphones. Don't forget to select the right speaker configuration.

blu3flannel
Dec 30, 2010, 07:40 PM
This may be a noobish question, but I can't stand it anymore. I have a (cheapish, but great sound quality) set of Skullcandy headphones, seen here (http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/lowrider-sc-blue.html) (I have a different color, but whatever). I've used them on other devices, such as iPods and the like, and they can be extremely loud without loss of quality. However, when I use them on my computer, Windows will only let me turn them up so loud (not very loud at all). I'm tired of everything being medium loud, I wanna hear something! Is there a way to raise the limit or something? Thanks. :toast:

majestic12
Dec 31, 2010, 02:20 AM
Sorry for the double post but I need help with sound settings.
This headset is my first real good gaming set and I'd like to know, is there a trick most use to get the best sound outta there head set?

I mean...

I play with the EQ settings while listening to MP3's and have the sound matched to my likeness.
But when I jump into a game it's like holly crap!!! BASS!!!! I need to lower the volume as my bones are vibrating lol. But really is there a setting I need to be concerned about for proper gaming sound?

hear, I took some screen shots on what my settings are at. If there is something off would you kind ppl please help guide me on what needs to be adjusted?


http://img.techpowerup.org/101230/6.png

Yikes! Doesn't it kill your ears having the equalizer set like that?!! The treble must be piercing.

Mine's turned off usually-

http://img.techpowerup.org/101230/EQ.jpg

fullinfusion
Dec 31, 2010, 03:40 AM
Yikes! Doesn't it kill your ears having the equalizer set like that?!! The treble must be piercing.

Mine's turned off usually-

http://img.techpowerup.org/101230/EQ.jpg
Ummmm, na, I droped the treble a bit and it's nice ATM to listen to...

I'm kinda trying to work out x-fire atm... 5970 plus 5870 Tri-fire and so far the audio sounds great but im at the limit for a image restore...

i need to reload a fresh copy of W7 in the morning to get everything working the way it's suppose to...

Kursah
Dec 31, 2010, 04:20 AM
It depends on quite a few things whether or not the use of EQ is necessary. I'd guess that most people out there would use an EQ to color the sound while others prefer a pure and flat sound. The first and foremost "thing" is your ear/listening preference. Some like bass, some like treble, some like all of the above, some like mids, etc. But if you gotta wimpy sound card, you might need a heavier EQ than a mixing setup or high end sound card, etc. I use EQ, mostly flat with some extra bass and a slight boost in the mids. But with my speakers to attain the sound I want out of my X-230's the bass goes waaay down, and the mid and treble get a boost.

Just pick a few of your favorite songs go for that in entertainment, then pick gaming mode and turn the EQ flat, maybe reduce the bass and go from there. Onboard X-Fi's have the console/mode too right? If not, you might just save a Gaming EQ instead. But I doubt what I listen to how I listen to it as a preference is what you prefer. So really messing around with the EQ is the best way to go. Honestly, I still tune my EQ's from time to time...it's a never ending deal but I am content with it how it is atm.

:toast:

fullinfusion
Dec 31, 2010, 06:48 PM
It depends on quite a few things whether or not the use of EQ is necessary. I'd guess that most people out there would use an EQ to color the sound while others prefer a pure and flat sound. The first and foremost "thing" is your ear/listening preference. Some like bass, some like treble, some like all of the above, some like mids, etc. But if you gotta wimpy sound card, you might need a heavier EQ than a mixing setup or high end sound card, etc. I use EQ, mostly flat with some extra bass and a slight boost in the mids. But with my speakers to attain the sound I want out of my X-230's the bass goes waaay down, and the mid and treble get a boost.

Just pick a few of your favorite songs go for that in entertainment, then pick gaming mode and turn the EQ flat, maybe reduce the bass and go from there. Onboard X-Fi's have the console/mode too right? If not, you might just save a Gaming EQ instead. But I doubt what I listen to how I listen to it as a preference is what you prefer. So really messing around with the EQ is the best way to go. Honestly, I still tune my EQ's from time to time...it's a never ending deal but I am content with it how it is atm.

:toast:

The on-board don't have gaming and such options. But any way I seem to have found a medium between gaming and music.. i just made a game profile and load it b4 gaming.

fullinfusion
Jan 8, 2011, 01:43 AM
*update* I have a great headset but it was bothering me that the on-board X-fi sound card was so limited. Just installed an Asus Xonar DX pci-e 7.1 audio card and WOW!!!

Finally Now I have the settings that make every thing sooooo much more enjoyable :rockout:

Kursah
Jan 8, 2011, 01:46 AM
It's amazing what a good feature set and solid sound card can do. Good to know the add-in/ship-with x-fi's aren't as good as I thought they might be. I love my Auzen Forte...wouldn't trade it for any other card out there! Glad you're happy man!

fullinfusion
Jan 8, 2011, 02:14 AM
It's amazing what a good feature set and solid sound card can do. Good to know the add-in/ship-with x-fi's aren't as good as I thought they might be. I love my Auzen Forte...wouldn't trade it for any other card out there! Glad you're happy man!
I just cant believe the difference! Man where have I been? under a rock I guess :laugh:
The sound is nuts! I have all sorts of modes and even gaming mode :D And the cards interface looks sweet, not plain and boring like the Creative X-fi one...

Bo$$
Jan 8, 2011, 10:55 AM
damn, im still running an audigy 2 ZS, i must be really missing out

TheMailMan78
Jan 16, 2011, 11:37 PM
A friend of mine is looking for some good ear buds OR behind the head for no more then 50 bucks. He uses this for gaming only. What would you guys recommend?

Kursah
Jan 17, 2011, 12:13 AM
I honestly don't know with ear buds that would be worth gaming with, but the buds I use are kickass with my sansa fuze. They are Meelec M9's, http://www.meelec.com/M9_Series_earphones_s/244.htm

For 19.99, they absolutely kick ass. I've had a few pair of skullcandy, jvc and noname buds...the M9's are by far the best I've used yet.

Though for behind the ear, Koss KSC75's are where it's at...look them up on head-fi. One of the most talked about headphones in it's class.

http://www.amazon.com/Koss-KSC75-Portable-Stereophone-Headphones/dp/B0006B486K

If he's using them for gaming only, have him consider a full-size headphone...while what I just suggested are good values in their class...the JVC HARX700's are pretty kickass in the closed full size headphone class also (check op)...and can generally be found at sub $40. Just some food for thought.

:toast:

mcloughj
Jan 17, 2011, 12:21 AM
I love my turtle beach X41 wireless headphones

Robert-The-Rambler
Jan 22, 2011, 05:48 AM
really? i had 202's many many years ago and thought they had way too MUCH bass.

oh and i have the CX300 II precisions (and got laughed at a few posts back) and find them to be quite comfortable and decent sounding for the price ($30 au, not the $100 retail)

I don't know what you guys are using to drive the HD 202s. I'm using the headphone output of my Pioneer VSX-1016 TSV receiver from the rear analog output of my X-Fi Fatality set at 192khz and the sound quality is amazing for $29.95.

They are so smooth and loud. They don't distort at all when being pushed and no matter what I listen to from Heavy Metal to the Neverending Story Soundtrack the depth of the soundstage is awesome. Color me impressed. They are way more comfortable than the Creative MK IIs and sound much better without having to adjust any equalization at all. Just go direct with no enhancements and play it loud. :toast:

MT Alex
Jan 22, 2011, 06:12 AM
A friend of mine is looking for some good ear buds OR behind the head for no more then 50 bucks. He uses this for gaming only. What would you guys recommend?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I love my Head Direct RE2s. WileE turned me on to them, and they are inexpensive. Frederik S has some good reviews on the subject, with the step up, the RE0s.

http://www.head-direct.com/product_detail.php?p=23

EDIT: I found he has a review for the RE2s, as well. Rated 9.6. At the time of the review, they were going for $80, now they are $30. I really need to order a spare set.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Head-Direct/RE2/5.html

Frederik S
Jan 22, 2011, 10:24 AM
If it has to be earbuds then he should look into the Sunrise Audio products. We covered those on TPU a while back. Basically cheaper slightly more music Yuin earbuds.

If in-ears are alright as well then definitely look into the RE2s and the Meelec in-ears that Kursah mentioned they are also priced sold at a great price.

Behind ear, Koss KSC 35/75 are alright. Yuin G2A and G1A are better but cost a lot more.

Anisotonic
Jan 22, 2011, 11:05 AM
We have a pair of Roccat Kave.

Hey there mister, just a quick question for you... for 4 years I have been using the turtle beach hpa2 which is similar to the Kave, and of course I couldn't live without it anymore. however I have thought of upgrading it quite a few times, and the Kave is certainly a contender, what I have not managed to know however, is if the integrated amp produces any notable hiss when turned on and idle? that would be the only negative point of my cans, the amp, while powerful, is quite noisy. also, how would you describe the bass unit of the Kave? is it more of a boomy, shaky experience (mine are like that), or is it closer to the tighter, punchier approach to bass of a high-end 2.0 headphone? oh and are the pads thick enough so your ears don't touch the cups? cheers

Mussels
Jan 22, 2011, 11:44 AM
I don't know what you guys are using to drive the HD 202s. I'm using the headphone output of my Pioneer VSX-1016 TSV receiver from the rear analog output of my X-Fi Fatality set at 192khz and the sound quality is amazing for $29.95.

They are so smooth and loud. They don't distort at all when being pushed and no matter what I listen to from Heavy Metal to the Neverending Story Soundtrack the depth of the soundstage is awesome. Color me impressed. They are way more comfortable than the Creative MK IIs and sound much better without having to adjust any equalization at all. Just go direct with no enhancements and play it loud. :toast:

well, let me put it this way.


i felt the same when i got my 202's... and then i found them lacking when i got my 555's.

just because they are awesome, doesnt mean there doesnt exist awesomer

n-ster
Jan 22, 2011, 12:23 PM
I love my KSC75, but they are no match for my SRH440 :p

If you don't mind open sound, the KSC75 will give you the best for the $ IMO

Robert-The-Rambler
Jan 23, 2011, 02:11 AM
well, let me put it this way.


i felt the same when i got my 202's... and then i found them lacking when i got my 555's.

just because they are awesome, doesnt mean there doesnt exist awesomer

I do believe Albert Einstein came up with that theory some time ago. And possibly the reason for the high divorce rate. :)

BumbleBee
Jan 23, 2011, 02:42 AM
I love my KSC75, but they are no match for my SRH440 :p

If you don't mind open sound, the KSC75 will give you the best for the $ IMO

I got a pair of Shure 440 in my living room. nice headphones.

Mussels
Jan 23, 2011, 03:45 AM
so how good are those RE2's everyones ranting about? I've noticed i can get them shipped here to Au for about $40 USD

Frederik S
Jan 23, 2011, 11:03 AM
so how good are those RE2's everyones ranting about? I've noticed i can get them shipped here to Au for about $40 USD

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Head-Direct/RE2/1.html
Please remember the review is old, lots of new stuff has made it to the market. For the price they are still pretty much unbeatable if you are after a analytical sound. Bass wise they lack a little but you cannot have it all especially not for $40.

Cheers,
Fred

Widjaja
Jan 23, 2011, 11:26 AM
Using HD202 at the moment.
Into a Sony amp to Infrasonic Quartet Pro Audio sound card.

Bought them for half price so I can't complain.

Blue-Tiger
Feb 12, 2011, 05:07 PM
If I might add, Blue-Tiger is using a Sennheiser RS-170 headset, powered bij a ASUS Xonar DX and an semi-vintage Kenwood amplifier, powering 2 L&S floorstanders. Too add some power on the lower frequencies, I currently own a JBL TLX-125 sub and I am simply loving it. :D

Robert-The-Rambler
Feb 16, 2011, 05:50 AM
Just want to give impressions of the headset after the first few hours. It sounds great after my initial fears about the total seaming lack of bass have been alleviated. I've been listening to a variety of music and these things are coming alive with the output of my Xonar DS set at only 25% - 30% and my $21 little Behringer HA400 headphone amp set at just 50% gain. I had the thing set way too loud at first and now I know what to expect it is getting easier to refine the volume based on the various sound levels of the recordings. I'm listening to a 1996 studio recording from John Denver titled the Best of John Denver and the vocals are insanely clear. I don't know whether bass is lacking or just getting swallowed up by rich midrange and crisp treble that could simply wake the dead it is so loud. These seem to be the loudest headphones I have ever heard even surpassing the HD 202s that are insanely loud, too. Haven't got a chance to play games I've been enjoying the music so much. I only paid about $60 at Newegg. I think it is wise to get discontinued models at a huge discount. I was about to go sleep and now I just don't want to. It almost 2:00 AM here. :)

Mussels
Feb 16, 2011, 09:39 AM
peeps here were right.

I upgraded from my sennheiser CX-II 300 precision (or whatever complicated name they had) to some RE2's.


first impressions were that the RE2's had less bass.
second impressions was that the senns sound like shit in comparison at anything that isnt bass.

opinion pretty much stuck with that.

n-ster
Feb 16, 2011, 06:55 PM
I honestly don't know with ear buds that would be worth gaming with, but the buds I use are kickass with my sansa fuze. They are Meelec M9's, http://www.meelec.com/M9_Series_earphones_s/244.htm

For 19.99, they absolutely kick ass. I've had a few pair of skullcandy, jvc and noname buds...the M9's are by far the best I've used yet.

Though for behind the ear, Koss KSC75's are where it's at...look them up on head-fi. One of the most talked about headphones in it's class.

http://www.amazon.com/Koss-KSC75-Portable-Stereophone-Headphones/dp/B0006B486K

If he's using them for gaming only, have him consider a full-size headphone...while what I just suggested are good values in their class...the JVC HARX700's are pretty kickass in the closed full size headphone class also (check op)...and can generally be found at sub $40. Just some food for thought.

:toast:

I hate my M9's, though it might be because I'm used to my SRH440s and KSC75s

Oh and my EQ for music (for 2/3rd of the times) :

http://img.techpowerup.org/110216/Capture048.jpg

Kursah
Feb 17, 2011, 03:50 AM
Wow I love my M9's on my Fuze, they sound awesome...much better than all my other ear buds by far, though I've never spent more than 20-30 bucks on a set. EQ settings on my Fuze is less aggressive...as they are quite bass heavy. But they seem to carry a decent amount of detail and comfort that makes me feel very content for 20 bucks.

Though the KSC75's sure do kick ass...I'm just not a fan of on ear phones anymore. I've yet to try the Shures.

I will say I still love my D2000's, they are a rockin' set of phones. I still wanna try out some Grado's to get a feel for them, but open phones in my living situation isn't a good idea to keep the peace. I'm considering finishing the other resonance mods for the HARX700's..and if I could adapt a different set of pads to them cheap and easily I'd probably sell the D2000's.

n-ster
Feb 17, 2011, 04:19 AM
That EQ is for my SRH440. Bass is muddy and treble too high for the KSC75 or M9s with this EQ.

The SRH440s are very neutral, and are more focused on mids than on bass and treble. While I love them with a flat EQ, I love them more with this EQ :D

And this might sound like crazyness, but I prefer the apple earbuds to the M9s

I don't like wearing the ksc75s, but they sound so good for something portable that I use them anyways

Ra97oR
Feb 24, 2011, 07:35 AM
Winter is over, and the need of my WS70 is over now. I am still rather interested about the Westone 4 yet its no where to be found.

I am wondering if there is any TPUer going to the Head-Fi meet in UK?

pentastar111
Feb 24, 2011, 09:36 AM
I have the Roccat Kaves....aside from the head band being a little uncomfy after a few hrs these things are fantastic.

Frick
Feb 24, 2011, 09:39 AM
I'm just tossing this one in here:

The main use of headsets around me are 1) Skype, and 2) music. As in music recording and mixong and whatnot.

Are there headphones that are good for that, music creating?

hv43082
Feb 24, 2011, 10:33 AM
I use Ultrasone Pro 650 with Zalman mic.

Pro:
-This headset gives you very accurate sound reproduction.
-It's bass heavy so perfect for shooter.
-It's closed eared so the sound is not as airy.
-Long extension cord.
-Comes with an extra set of earpad.
-Comes with nice protective case.
-Good price for entry level audiophile headphone. $99 a while back.


Con:
-Being closed eared so sound stage is so so.
-Can get hot after a few hours of gaming.
-If you have crappy mp3 songs, this set will point that out rather quickly.
-Made of plastic

Ra97oR
Feb 24, 2011, 11:14 AM
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8707/img5756g.jpg

Recent system change.

Frick
Feb 24, 2011, 03:18 PM
I use Ultrasone Pro 650 with Zalman mic.

Pro:
-This headset gives you very accurate sound reproduction.
-It's bass heavy so perfect for shooter.
-It's closed eared so the sound is not as airy.
-Long extension cord.
-Comes with an extra set of earpad.
-Comes with nice protective case.
-Good price for entry level audiophile headphone. $99 a while back.


Con:
-Being closed eared so sound stage is so so.
-Can get hot after a few hours of gaming.
-If you have crappy mp3 songs, this set will point that out rather quickly.
-Made of plastic

They are €400 here. The Pro 550 are about €170 and 750 are €300. A tad bit too much.

Urbklr
Feb 25, 2011, 11:52 PM
For my gaming and audio engineering I use a set of AKG K240/MKII's, along with an ebay headphone amp. They sound great and are nice and flat for studio use. Cost under $300 for everything, in CDN funds.

BumbleBee
Feb 27, 2011, 02:30 AM
I just picked up a pair of Sennheiser PC360 which are a popular choice with the Astro Mixamp (see here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1285726)). I don't like the microphone because it's not detachable and it's rather large for above average quality. they sound great and I couldn't be happier.

fullinfusion
Feb 27, 2011, 02:33 AM
I just picked up a pair of Sennheiser PC360 which are a popular choice with the Astro Mixamp (see here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1285726)). I don't like the microphone because it's not detachable and it's rather large for above average quality. they sound great and I couldn't be happier.
I have the pc 350 and ppl tell me they cant believe the mic clarity this thing gives off....

nice choice man!! :rockout:

techtard
Mar 2, 2011, 06:03 AM
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8707/img5756g.jpg

Recent system change.


Wow, that looks slick. One of these days, I'm gonna ditch this Razer sound card and go audiophile level sound.

Congrats on the setup :)

Fourstaff
Mar 2, 2011, 10:16 AM
So someone I know wanted to get Monster Beats. Please to show me the chart which recommends various earphones at different pricepoints?

BumbleBee
Mar 2, 2011, 02:06 PM
So someone I know wanted to get Monster Beats. Please to show me the chart which recommends various earphones at different pricepoints?

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-zCvQmBopzEZjUxMDEzODUtNDA5Mi00NWQ5LTllYzUtMjBmZmIw YjM5MTc3&sort=name&layout=list&num=50

it's a bit dated but a good place to start.

n-ster
Mar 2, 2011, 02:08 PM
So someone I know wanted to get Monster Beats. Please to show me the chart which recommends various earphones at different pricepoints?

They are definitively comfortable and sound great and the EQ appeals to most, but the price is just too damn high.

Fourstaff
Mar 2, 2011, 03:11 PM
They are definitively comfortable and sound great and the EQ appeals to most, but the price is just too damn high.

That is the whole point.

Frederik S
Mar 2, 2011, 05:25 PM
They are €400 here. The Pro 550 are about €170 and 750 are €300. A tad bit too much.

Why not just get a set of HFI-680/780 they ought to be cheaper and perform almost the same except they are closed back headphones. I did a review of them a while back, you can find it under reviews on the front page.

furbylover
Mar 6, 2011, 06:20 PM
I've been looking around recently and it is really hard to find a decent headset in my price range with all the mixed reviews I see and all the complaints. Hoping to get some answers here. My budget is $70.00, and I am looking for casting so it needs to be comfortable for a long span of time (2-5 hours straight) and it needs to have a nice sounding microphone. (I will be talking a lot)

I am looking forward to your suggestions! Thank you :)

P.S. I currently have been interested in the Razer Piranha for $54.99 because I heard the sound quality was good. Also the Plantronics GameCom 367 I heard packs a great punch for it's cheap price.

Onderon
Mar 6, 2011, 07:04 PM
Recently i was on the market for a new pair of headphones, my choises were extremely limited, I live in venezuela and i can't import because of a stupid law that limits the amount of money you can spend on the exterior, but well i had the choise of akg 412 , akg 99, sennheiser 201 and 202, and one pair of Kicker hp541 (O.o never new they made headphones), they were all my posibilities there were some denon but way of of my price range. so i read reviews and wached unboxings trying to see the build qualities and stuff, i never liked the akg design and those 2 dont really look like akg made them, they have a "cheap" feeling to me, so i was thinking of the 3 other, to my surprise the kicker had really great reviews also the sennheiser.
In the end i decided for the Kicker for the following reasons.

1. Dual male jack cable. so no worries for cables damage just buy another pair and done. also you could buy any pair you want.
2. Saw better reviews. really detailed.
3. Better design and sturdier looks (my opinion)

So here comes the pros and cons.
Pros:
1. No need for amps, god wen i first conected them i though o well im going to need am amp like many other headphones do but no to my surprise they are great without reaaaly loud.
2.Amazing sound, i've had skullcandy, panasonic, sony headphones, my brother have a steelseries siveria v1, but this pair tops them all, great bass really clear audio. I dont have and audio card yet but my brother have an xfi and man i really need a card the difference i huge.
3. Brings 2 cables, 1 of a meter long and the other one of 3 meters long.
4. Closed tipe.
5. Strong but not anoying grip.
6. Even though they are plastic, they are really sturdy and have a great build quality
7. 1 side cable only, Jack on the left earcup. no "v" tipe string.

Cons:
1. Leathery pads. They get warm but not hot.
2. Nothing else that i can think right now

http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/kicker_hp541.jpg
Reference image.
Edit: 1 more pro.

Fourstaff
Mar 6, 2011, 07:25 PM
Are you open to the idea of using a clip on mic and a good headset?

snuif09
Mar 6, 2011, 07:46 PM
does anyone know a good cheap surround sound headset? It doesnt have to be true surround but i just want that if a grenade explodes behind me that I would hear it like that :P

Onderon
Mar 6, 2011, 11:52 PM
@Fourstaff: i dont like clip on i think they are not that good just because they grab all the noise arround. BUT i do use a stand mic, pointing directly at me, cristal clear sound and because its like that it only pics wats in front of it. i know its a weird combo but i like it better than clip on. Even though the mic doesnt get to 10 bucks its one of the best i've had. i had a clip on and prefer this one way better. I use skype daily. i speak with my dad that is not living in the country and with my friends to coordinte and game. (i reaaaally don like TS nor ventrilo, have had bad experiences with them. skype is easy and havent given me any prob.) and they say is way better too no distortions or noise.

On another topic im looking for a sound card but i can only find x-fis in my country. I could try to import another, i really want a asus xonar as i've read that they are better. what do you guys think.

Edit: Spelling checks :D (english is not my first language but i try to write as best as i can) :P

hv43082
Mar 7, 2011, 05:28 AM
They are €400 here. The Pro 550 are about €170 and 750 are €300. A tad bit too much.

You can get them on ebay for far less. The seller, like me, got them from Musician's Friends deal for cheap a while back.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky
Mar 29, 2011, 11:08 PM
What are a good Gaming Headset for $25-50? I need to replace my Plantronics 377 set. The slider joint snapped. I thought about the Creative Fatal1ty ones and other but dont really know.

Fourstaff
Mar 29, 2011, 11:16 PM
What are a good Gaming Headset for $25-50? I need to replace my Plantronics 377 set. The slider joint snapped. I thought about the Creative Fatal1ty ones and other but dont really know.

I am using the Creative Fatality HS800, honestly if you cannot get it lower than $20-30 I would ignore it. Its functional, yes, but on the other hand it causes my ears to hurt after a few hours. You might have a different experience though. My advice is to get a nice earphone with a clip on mic. Might be more expensive right now, but on the other hand, you get to upgrade your headset as you go along without needing to care about the mic, and also there is a wider selection to choose from.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky
Mar 29, 2011, 11:30 PM
I am using the Creative Fatality HS800, honestly if you cannot get it lower than $20-30 I would ignore it. Its functional, yes, but on the other hand it causes my ears to hurt after a few hours. You might have a different experience though. My advice is to get a nice earphone with a clip on mic. Might be more expensive right now, but on the other hand, you get to upgrade your headset as you go along without needing to care about the mic, and also there is a wider selection to choose from.

Ah but I am interested in replacing my Plantronics 5.1 set. So, I need quality noise canceling Mic and excellent speakers. I need comfort and excellent build quality.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky
Mar 29, 2011, 11:40 PM
This one is OverKill!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-MMX-300-Premium-Microphone/dp/B001BYMZ5W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1301441852&sr=8-13

Bo$$
Mar 30, 2011, 07:28 AM
This one is OverKill!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-MMX-300-Premium-Microphone/dp/B001BYMZ5W/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1301441852&sr=8-13

right in your budget too, i have the fatality headset (non USB one) they are very comfortable and quite balanced in my opinion :)

IndigoGoose
Mar 30, 2011, 08:34 AM
Guys i have had Philips SHP9000 for a couple of years now and i'm am inpressed.

Product Details

The philips shp9000 ensures you get everything out of your music! these high definition headphones render every single tone faithfully to produce lifelike sound. they also come with an impressively large frequency range and have a pair of specifically tuned speaker drivers that react precisely to audio signals. the philips shp9000 are suited to all head shapes as they're lightweight and fully adjustable for that comfortable, natural fit.

Here they are:
Features Gold-plated connectors
Headphones Type Headphones - binaural
Headphones Form Factor Ear-cup
Headphones Technology Dynamic
Connectivity Technology Wired
Sound Output Mode Stereo
Response Bandwidth 5 - 40000 Hz highest i could find at the time :rockout:
Sensitivity 106 dB
Impedance 32 Ohm
Diaphragm 50 mm
Magnet Material Neodymium
Connections
Connector Type 1 x headphones ( mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm )
Miscellaneous
Cables Included 1 x headphones cable - detachable - 4 m Another thing the wire is braded with fabric so that it doesn't tangle easily and feels good.
Included Accessories Carrying pouch, 6.3 mm (1/4") stereo adapter


My opinions

They are really comfortable you some times forget they are even on your head. The head strap is amazing it auto adjusts which makes these headphone fit everyone which also makes them quite big. The lows and highs are amazing its how music should be listened to. For gaming you hear all. I would easily recommend them to anyone who likes music, films and gaming.

Before these i thought music and gaming experiences couldn't get any better. Even with my favourite songs that i had listened to 100s of times without them. I never knew that i was missing parts of the songs till i used these its like you hear more of the music than a normal pair. I guess that is because of their amazing 5 - 40000Hz frequency responce.

The build quality feels like they have put a lot of time and money in creating these. They are stronge and durable, considering i have been using them on planes, trains, buses etc for nearlly 2 years. With their carry case which doesn't add protection but is a nice extra to transport them.

http://media.247electrical.co.uk/media/catalog/product/w/a/wae-5142252.jpg

Hope the above was helpful to someone

Fourstaff
Mar 30, 2011, 09:14 AM
Ah but I am interested in replacing my Plantronics 5.1 set. So, I need quality noise canceling Mic and excellent speakers. I need comfort and excellent build quality.

There is a Zalman clip on mic that I seem to see people recommending everywhere, but I can't seem to find the exact model. Add on a JVC HA RX 700, you are good to go :toast:

BumbleBee
Mar 30, 2011, 10:40 AM
There is a Zalman clip on mic that I seem to see people recommending everywhere, but I can't seem to find the exact model. Add on a JVC HA RX 700, you are good to go :toast:

Zalman ZM-MIC1

Mussels
Mar 30, 2011, 10:45 AM
Zalman ZM-MIC1

i have one. not perfect audio quality, but its loud. clip on system can be annoying, but it fits that niche of working on any headphones.

BumbleBee
Mar 30, 2011, 11:03 AM
I don't like it. if the inline cable is too thin it won't clip on and it likes to pick up background noise.

here are some alternatives.

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mini-clip-on-microphone-7080

http://www.amazon.com/Califone-CM-316-Flexible-Neck-Microphone/dp/B002SZ2P76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1288041332&sr=1-1

Mussels
Mar 30, 2011, 11:05 AM
yeah you can rip the mic off just about any headset you want, really.


i used zipties to hold the zalman to my cord, but it does have that issue with background noise, since its not positioned in front of your mouth. only really useful for people in quiet environments, and using push to talk.

AhokZYashA
Mar 30, 2011, 04:36 PM
im using the fostex t50rp mod for game now..

extremely great separation going on there.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky
Mar 30, 2011, 07:24 PM
What are your opinions of the Razer Carcharias? I think I Might snag a Asus Xonar card to improve audio too. My onboard is VIA audio...bleh!!!

Killer_Rubber_Ducky
Mar 30, 2011, 08:39 PM
Come to think of it, I might go after a Tactical Throat Mic!

http://www.clearercom.com/pc_throat_mic.htm

http://www.clearercom.com/IMAGES/stryker%20lite/3.jpg

Fourstaff
Mar 30, 2011, 08:58 PM
What are your opinions of the Razer Carcharias? I think I Might snag a Asus Xonar card to improve audio too. My onboard is VIA audio...bleh!!!

You would want to avoid Razer products as much as possible unless there are no clear alternatives, simply because they tend to be a bit pricey and their quality slightly below average. My onboard is VIA too, but I find them "adequate".

AphexDreamer
Apr 1, 2011, 07:58 AM
I'm looking to get some new 7.1 Surround Sound Gaming headphones and have no idea what to get.

I'm currently using ABS FX7 that I got for 30 a while back but I'm looking to speed up to $100 or so for some nice headphones.

Suggestions?

HookeyStreet
Apr 1, 2011, 08:01 AM
Has anyone got any info on the Tritton AX120 headset?

BumbleBee
Apr 1, 2011, 10:31 AM
I'm looking to get some new 7.1 Surround Sound Gaming headphones and have no idea what to get.

I'm currently using ABS FX7 that I got for 30 a while back but I'm looking to speed up to $100 or so for some nice headphones.

Suggestions?

a roundup I like to post.

intro

http://www.tested.com/first-look-at-7-high-end-gaming-headsets/47-94/

article and results

http://www.tested.com/news/7-high-end-gaming-headsets-tested-and-reviewed/627/

AphexDreamer
Apr 1, 2011, 02:44 PM
a roundup I like to post.

intro

http://www.tested.com/first-look-at-7-high-end-gaming-headsets/47-94/

article and results

http://www.tested.com/news/7-high-end-gaming-headsets-tested-and-reviewed/627/

Well dang... that didn't really help. They all seemed nice but heck the way the review made it sound I might as well just stick with the 7.1 I have now.

BumbleBee
Apr 1, 2011, 02:49 PM
have you thought about stereo headphones instead?

AphexDreamer
Apr 1, 2011, 03:06 PM
have you thought about stereo headphones instead?

But I really want some good Surround Sound headphones.

I'm thinking about this.

http://www.surroundsoundssystems.info/videos/psyko-pc51v1-5-1-pc-gaming-headset-system/

Psyko Carbon Surround Sound PC Gaming Headset with... (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826705003&cm_re=surround_sound_headset-_-26-705-003-_-Product)

Fourstaff
Apr 1, 2011, 03:23 PM
I heard the Psyko is very head heavy, and can get really uncomfortable even with short periods of use. I think you are better off sticking with the standard ones.

AphexDreamer
Apr 1, 2011, 03:33 PM
Ok so reading across the web people that do seem to be happy with Surround Sound Headphones are plauged with a good many people that claim its just a gimmick and perfer using Stereo Headphones coupled with a good Soundcard that mimics the Surround Sound.

Is that what yall suggest for gaming and music listening?

In that case whats a good Stereo Headset for a price range around $100?

EDIT:

I'm actually thinking about one of these.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12302/snd-50/Corsair_HS1_USB_Gaming_and_Audio_Headset_w_Mic_and _Dolby_Headphone_Technology_CA-HS1.html?tl=g39c51s408

or

http://www.airetechit.co.uk/e-shop/products.php?13892&currency=USD

Fourstaff
Apr 1, 2011, 04:03 PM
I would vote Roccat Kave, but it uses USB in. If you want a USB in, you might as well get the G35 (that is, if you don't wear glasses).

After scouring the internet for hours, I think Steelseries Siberia (V2), Sennheiser PC350 and Creative Fatal1ty (if you can find one for cheap) are those I would take a better look at. Possibly the Creative MKII too.

AphexDreamer
Apr 1, 2011, 04:05 PM
I would vote Roccat Kave, but it uses USB in. If you want a USB in, you might as well get the G35 (that is, if you don't wear glasses).

After scouring the internet for hours, I think Steelseries Siberia (V2), Sennheiser PC350 and Creative Fatal1ty (if you can find one for cheap) are those I would take a better look at.

They are only 50
http://us.store.creative.com/Creative-Fatal1ty-Gaming-Headset/M/B002DS4HTM.htm

I'll take a look.

Fourstaff
Apr 1, 2011, 04:10 PM
They are only 50
http://us.store.creative.com/Creative-Fatal1ty-Gaming-Headset/M/B002DS4HTM.htm

I'll take a look.

I paid mine for £10 2nd hand :laugh: Honestly, I wouln't pay more than £20 for them, or about $35.

BumbleBee
Apr 1, 2011, 04:11 PM
Ok so reading across the web people that do seem to be happy with Surround Sound Headphones are plauged with a good many people that claim its just a gimmick and perfer using Stereo Headphones coupled with a good Soundcard that mimics the Surround Sound.

Is that what yall suggest for gaming and music listening?

In that case whats a good Stereo Headset for a price range around $100?

EDIT:

I'm actually thinking about one of these.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12302/snd-50/Corsair_HS1_USB_Gaming_and_Audio_Headset_w_Mic_and _Dolby_Headphone_Technology_CA-HS1.html?tl=g39c51s408

or

http://www.airetechit.co.uk/e-shop/products.php?13892&currency=USD

using 5.1 headphones will surely give you exact surround, better surround than stereo headphones, even the best ones, but surround "5.1" headphones have one major weakness, they have to compromise most of the sound quality to get multiple drivers just to make that surround sound.

AphexDreamer
Apr 1, 2011, 07:04 PM
Well I ended up buying this.

Turtle Beach Ear Force PX5 Programmable Wireless H... (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879459005&Tpk=PX5)

Currently trying to get it to work.

I can't get any sound out of it for some reason. I have to leave for work soon, but its a little discomforting.

I have the optical cable plugged into the out of my Motherboard and then its going in to the Wireless dock. The headphones are paired so I'm not sure whats wrong.

Default in sound is the optical port I'm using.

Also my PC won't install drivers for it :(

Hope I can get it working when I get back. Probably toss in my X fi card to use with it.

If anyone has this and knows whats wrong PM me please.

EDIT: Tried it with my PS3 same thing. I'm thinking its the crappy optical cable they gave me. I'll try another when I get back from work.

Bo$$
Apr 1, 2011, 10:23 PM
I paid mine for £10 2nd hand :laugh: Honestly, I wouln't pay more than £20 for them, or about $35.

i paid £24 for mine

Ra97oR
Apr 4, 2011, 12:09 PM
Not so much as gaming headphones, but after Head-Fi London meet, I have (pretty sure I have) finally heard all the high-end headphones in production today.

There is a few highlight as in the Head-Direct HE-4 is simply underwhelming compared to their higher end counterpart, where it's mids is a real let down to me.

Head Direct HE-6 didn't wow me either with its dark presentation which contribute to a lower preserved detailed level compared to the HE5-LE which I quite like.

LCD-2 is a beast of a phone, I could say it excel on all front BUT in soundstage, which it just lacking. If the soundstage could have been better, it will be my future phone.

Going back in time, listening to the second batch AKG K1000 did surprise me with its great presentation and it have more bass than I expected. The bass impact is there for sure and mid is very sweet and airy. Great for vocals, it does sounds a lot like my AD1000PRM though.

AhokZYashA
Apr 5, 2011, 08:30 AM
i love the synergy of AMB Gamma2 > Burson HA-160D > Silver Dragon V3 > LCD2..

the bass is very clear, detailed, fast, and very ideal for rock..

and dont ask how it games,

COD-MW2 on it is awesome..

Frederik S
Apr 5, 2011, 01:37 PM
Not so much as gaming headphones, but after Head-Fi London meet, I have (pretty sure I have) finally heard all the high-end headphones in production today.

There is a few highlight as in the Head-Direct HE-4 is simply underwhelming compared to their higher end counterpart, where it's mids is a real let down to me.

Head Direct HE-6 didn't wow me either with its dark presentation which contribute to a lower preserved detailed level compared to the HE5-LE which I quite like.

LCD-2 is a beast of a phone, I could say it excel on all front BUT in soundstage, which it just lacking. If the soundstage could have been better, it will be my future phone.

Going back in time, listening to the second batch AKG K1000 did surprise me with its great presentation and it have more bass than I expected. The bass impact is there for sure and mid is very sweet and airy. Great for vocals, it does sounds a lot like my AD1000PRM though.

What amplifier did you hear the HE-6s on, the ones I have here are brighter than the HE-5LEs with stock cable.

n-ster
Apr 5, 2011, 01:57 PM
I love my Shure 440's, but I'm thinking of perhaps upgrading... Problem that I have with my 440s:

1) the metal (driver?) thing inside the earcups presses against my ears and after 1 hour I have MASSIVE pains, I have a fix for this however, and that is to stuff tissues around the earcups, which gives a much more comfortable feel AND improves soundstage, but brings problem #2

2) Because of the tissues, there is a lot more heat inside the earcups, so hot ears is unpleasant.

3) The headband is not very comfortable. Something like the Beats' headband would be godly :D but anything better than the current would do.

4) sound is of good quality, but it could be better :p Perhaps it is time I get more 'fun' headphones? idk if I'll like it more than the more neutral sound of the Shure's though. I do add a small U shape in my sound card's EQ

5) My earcups are all scratched and have small rips

Should I just buy Shure 840 earcups and be done with it? Or should I save up for new headphones :/

Ra97oR
Apr 5, 2011, 03:20 PM
What amplifier did you hear the HE-6s on, the ones I have here are brighter than the HE-5LEs with stock cable.

Used the Schiit Lyr and Head-Direct EF5.

Ra97oR
Apr 9, 2011, 11:31 AM
Well sorry for double posting, just grabbed a pair of W5000. Initial impression is rather positive, it sounded better than what I was heard from a pair of W5000 before (amp pairing maybe?)

Overall its a more all round phone than the PRM or the AD2000, but doesn't do rock as well as they do so.

-1nf1n1ty-
May 9, 2011, 03:54 PM
Hey guys im looking for a equivalent version of the Audio Technica AD700 headphones. Preferably low in price and something with a single cord, and low profile.
Any suggestions? and I was looking at the Sony extra bass line since they are cheap but I have no experience on them

Frederik S
May 9, 2011, 04:14 PM
Hey guys im looking for a equivalent version of the Audio Technica AD700 headphones. Preferably low in price and something with a single cord, and low profile.
Any suggestions? and I was looking at the Sony extra bass line since they are cheap but I have no experience on them

Look at the JVC HARX line of headphones. They are not as good as the more expensive Audio-technicas but they can hold their own.

-1nf1n1ty-
May 9, 2011, 06:02 PM
Look at the JVC HARX line of headphones. They are not as good as the more expensive Audio-technicas but they can hold their own.

some of the ones I've seen dont have that much of a low profile, I guess I was looking more of something more like beats by dre. how its sleek etc.

Frederik S
May 9, 2011, 06:46 PM
There is a model in the HARX line that is quite sleek.

-1nf1n1ty-
May 9, 2011, 07:04 PM
There is a model in the HARX line that is quite sleek.

Do you mind linking it to me?

n-ster
May 9, 2011, 07:11 PM
RX300 and RX 500 are smaller... else you gotta look at HA-S series, the HA-M series is not made, nor is the HA-X

Dr.dre beats are expensive like macs cause they are beautiful :)

Fourstaff
May 9, 2011, 08:11 PM
Dr.dre beats are expensive like macs cause they are beautiful :)

At least Macs have something to boast about, Dr. Dre does not. Or does it... http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;0;-1;-1;-1&sku=99529

n-ster
May 9, 2011, 08:15 PM
At least Macs have something to boast about, Dr. Dre does not. Or does it... http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;0;-1;-1;-1&sku=99529

ROFL

have you tried the headphones though ? SO DARN COMFORTABLE AND BEAUTIFUL AND SLICK

Fourstaff
May 9, 2011, 08:24 PM
have you tried the headphones though ? SO DARN COMFORTABLE AND BEAUTIFUL AND SLICK

I see a lot of them around my area, but most of the time the Beats are hanging around the neck rather than on the ears, and from that I concluded that the Beats either sound bad or is uncomfortable. Since that you said they are rather comfortable, it must mean they sound very bad. Would probably consider them at half price and I am a bass junkie, but since that I am not and there are never discounts, Beats is out of my list.

n-ster
May 9, 2011, 08:28 PM
naa they sound great as well, and have a decent amount of bass. They just sound like 80~100$ ish headphones nothing more

I'm actually talking about the Monster Beats studio (300$) btw, not the Beats solo.

They require batteries LOL I did not know that

Fourstaff
May 9, 2011, 08:41 PM
naa they sound great as well, and have a decent amount of bass. They just sound like 80~100$ ish headphones nothing more

I'm actually talking about the Monster Beats studio (300$) btw, not the Beats solo.

They require batteries LOL I did not know that

Studios are noise cancelling, and they are actually half decent. Its just a pity you can get something better at that price point.

AhokZYashA
May 10, 2011, 07:18 AM
for 300 you can get the HD25 which is miles better..


HE6 is very bright and very heavy to drive..
i love that headphone..

Ra97oR
May 10, 2011, 08:39 AM
My A2000X just arrived, it is quickly becoming one of my top 5 headphones. It's just like a HD800 but less bright. They are seriously pretty too.

http://www.phileweb.com/news/photo/200810/ATH-A2000X_big.jpg



On the issue of Monster Beats *sign*, they are one of the most ugly and worse built headphones I even touched, the sound is terrible for the price. They just sounds like one of those seriously bass heavy headphones with slightly better clarity.

AhokZYashA
May 10, 2011, 08:42 AM
thats sweeett..

im rocking my ER4P now..
and its soo great

Ra97oR
May 10, 2011, 08:48 AM
Ah, the ER4P. Although I preferred the ER4S though. Having a good setup with portable amp really does make a different.

I run Sony Hybrid retipped and pure silver reabled TF10 with iBasso D2+ (D12 sounds even better with it though) and custom low profile pure silver LOD with iPod Touch 64GB. I am rather happy with its sound.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9239/img5738z.jpg

Fourstaff
May 31, 2011, 06:08 PM
Saw a guy wearing Monster Beats Solo Justin Bieber edition just now. He needs to be castrated.

El_Mayo
Jun 19, 2011, 04:53 PM
I had a pair of Sony XB300s but they broke
So I want to upgrade my headphones :)
I want something with either similar or better

My first thought was the XB500s, but I don't think my xb300s had a very nicely balanced sound. The bass was perfect but not enough trebleee, so now I'm thinking of buying either Sony MDR V700s or Sennheiser HD 215s. My budget is £50-£80.
Over ear OR in ear headphones :)

Killer_Rubber_Ducky
Jun 20, 2011, 10:06 PM
Get a pair of JVC HARX700

Ra97oR
Jun 21, 2011, 07:04 AM
I had a pair of Sony XB300s but they broke
So I want to upgrade my headphones :)
I want something with either similar or better

My first thought was the XB500s, but I don't think my xb300s had a very nicely balanced sound. The bass was perfect but not enough trebleee, so now I'm thinking of buying either Sony MDR V700s or Sennheiser HD 215s. My budget is £50-£80.
Over ear OR in ear headphones :)

Are you looking to use them mainly for gaming or for music? Quite a few different choices for music use with different sound signatures.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146672

I however recommend the AD700 no matter for gaming or music at this price. It is bass light compared to the XB500 but have great soundstaging and details for its price. It is slightly above £80, at £87 on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-ATH-AD700-Headphones-ear-cup/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1308639757&sr=1-1

AppleB
Jun 22, 2011, 11:44 AM
oki as far as i can see no one has reviewed the siberiav2 from steelseries right? Im SO close to pressing the purchase button but i wanna know if anyone here in the thread loves them as much as i think. i dont normally read reviews from sites because they tend to be either lovers or haters depending on their relationship with the manufacturer. User opinions = win!

Fourstaff
Jun 22, 2011, 11:56 AM
Hardware Canucks did one: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/40914-steelseries-siberia-v2-full-size-headset-review.html

Ra97oR
Jun 22, 2011, 11:58 AM
I haven't heard it personally, but from most the sites that reviews them seems to be just computer hardware sites, lacking experience on better headphones. If you haven't heard anything better, you are going to say it is the best headphones you have ever heard, just like the Monster Beats crowd. Also, sound is very personal. Some likes detailed and fast phones, some like them with lots of bass.

Fourstaff
Jun 22, 2011, 12:06 PM
I haven't heard it personally, but from most the sites that reviews them seems to be just computer hardware sites, lacking experience on better headphones. If you haven't heard anything better, you are going to say it is the best headphones you have ever heard, just like the Monster Beats crowd. Also, sound is very personal. Some likes detailed and fast phones, some like them with lots of bass.

Never heard one either, but if the reviews are to be trusted (and scaled according to other "gaming headsets"), I think its quite a good buy. Sure, you will get better sounds from other similarly priced headphones, but the integrated mic can be a big plus. I know I like my HS800's detachable mic at least. And the difference between that and its next competitor (in the headset category at least) should be unnoticeable if you are not using good audio outs.

Mussels
Jul 17, 2011, 02:07 PM
odd request, i'm looking for headphones for my iphone 4 with good music quality, AND a built in mic for calls that doesnt suck.


help me TPU-wan kenobi, i'm too lazy to google and read thousands of pages of biased reviews on this one.

Frederik S
Jul 17, 2011, 03:40 PM
How much are you willing to spend Mussels?

Fourstaff
Jul 17, 2011, 04:27 PM
odd request, i'm looking for headphones for my iphone 4 with good music quality, AND a built in mic for calls that doesnt suck.


In Ears allowed?

Mussels
Jul 18, 2011, 12:20 AM
In Ears allowed?

in ears preferred, and to answer the question above maybe $100 Au?

Bjorn_Of_Iceland
Jul 18, 2011, 06:29 PM
Anyone here using a Razer Carcharias?

Frederik S
Jul 18, 2011, 06:45 PM
I do not know any Au shops, but the Klipsch S4i is around $100 and is a good set. Ultimate Ears 500vi are also quite good for the price.

AhokZYashA
Jul 24, 2011, 06:55 PM
Mussels, when you don't mention budget, I was going to recommend the klipsch x10i,
Its very good, but I personally prefer the mic-less ER4P from it,

For 100au, you can grab S4i, UE500vi, or if you're lucky, you can grab a second hand UE700vi,

Frick
Jul 28, 2011, 08:36 PM
I have a question about headsets: How many of them have mute buttons? I am totally in the dark about headsets but I do know that I want a mute button.

EDIT: I'm going all in: I want a headset for talking. I will not game with them, but I might listen to some music with them. However I will talk alot. Any recommendations?

Mussels
Jul 29, 2011, 01:38 AM
I have a question about headsets: How many of them have mute buttons? I am totally in the dark about headsets but I do know that I want a mute button.

EDIT: I'm going all in: I want a headset for talking. I will not game with them, but I might listen to some music with them. However I will talk alot. Any recommendations?

i use a playstation 2 USB headset with a single earpiece and the mic, and it has volume control and a mute button on the cord. costs about $5-$10


not very good for music, but you can always listen to music via speakers while you use them (as i do)

Horrux
Aug 5, 2011, 12:57 PM
I currently run the Psyko Audio 5.1 headset and am growing disenchanted with audio quality and sound leakage, not to mention feedback between the drivers and the microphone. But of course, directionality of sound is absolutely great with these.

So I am looking for something better. I am willing to sacrifice some directionality for greatly improved sound quality and insulation. Oh, and my soundcard is the Auzentech Prelude X-Fi, which puts out very high sound quality. Any suggestions?

I'm willing to pay, say, $200 or so, or perhaps a tad more, depending on the quality...

chinesekiwi
Aug 8, 2011, 03:16 PM
just for gaming? music tastes? comfort and isolation an issue?

Horrux
Aug 8, 2011, 03:26 PM
just for gaming? music tastes? comfort and isolation an issue?

Yeah the headset is only for gaming. My music style is the various kinds of techno and electronica only, but I won't be listening to music on them. Comfort is important. Isolation of the outside from my sound is also important, although I would rather not be too insulated from the sounds outside, if that makes any sense. Like hearing the door ring when the UPS lady brings my computer parts. Well, actually she knocks on the door, and the dogs get into a barking fit, so I have to be able to hear that LOL.

chinesekiwi
Aug 10, 2011, 03:39 AM
Yeah the headset is only for gaming. My music style is the various kinds of techno and electronica only, but I won't be listening to music on them. Comfort is important. Isolation of the outside from my sound is also important, although I would rather not be too insulated from the sounds outside, if that makes any sense. Like hearing the door ring when the UPS lady brings my computer parts. Well, actually she knocks on the door, and the dogs get into a barking fit, so I have to be able to hear that LOL.

the Denon D2000 seems a good fit

$225 slow ship

http://www.etronics.com/p-37434-denon-ahd2000-denon-ahd2000-aroundtheear-headphones.aspx?dp=62E2026212E6620253938363A383579 3636373D333A313

Horrux
Aug 12, 2011, 01:26 PM
the Denon D2000 seems a good fit

$225 slow ship

http://www.etronics.com/p-37434-denon-ahd2000-denon-ahd2000-aroundtheear-headphones.aspx?dp=62E2026212E6620253938363A383579 3636373D333A313

Those look OK for great sound quality. Any other ideas? No surround ones?

Horrux
Aug 12, 2011, 07:44 PM
Right now I'm thinking these are probably the best, if somewhat more expensive than I would like: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=52370&vpn=504122&manufacture=Sennheiser%20Electronics

AhokZYashA
Sep 12, 2011, 05:57 AM
i can recommend you for the HD598/558 + clip on mic.

sound wise, it will beat the PC360 straightaway.

Yin
Sep 14, 2011, 08:19 AM
in ears preferred, and to answer the question above maybe $100 Au?

Have you checked out Razer Moray+?

AhokZYashA
Sep 14, 2011, 12:07 PM
Razer Moray+ sounds quite good, but i think 100AU is still a bit much for them.

i think UE600vi should be your best bet