The HD 5970 Clubhouse

[hv43082]

So apparently it is a heat issue.

Apart from taking care of dust, check if perhaps you need more exhaust fans in the case. You said you have two 120mm blowing on the GPU -- do you have any other fans blowing out of the case apart from that of the PSU?

2 120 mm exhaust. 3 120 intakes (2 onto the GPU). I will do some cleaning, hopefully it will help.

[mdsx1950]

Yo bro, do you get much microstuttering with your Xfire setup?:eek: Would you recommend a Qaudfire setup?:D

Well not at all except Splinter Cell but i think that was much more than microstuttering. :laugh: :laugh: Quadfire is awesome! You planning on going 4x 5870s? :respect:

Is it possible to have more than 4 cards in a PC? Maybe have Hexafire or Octafire. :laugh::laugh:

[undy22]

Hi guys
i recently brought a 5970 XFX BE
with a GA-MA790XT-UD4P and a 1055T @ 4ghz
so im wondering if these scores are ok?
in 3d mark vantage drivers 10.5

GPu score 23129
CPu score 19763

if their not any way i can make them better? i think the card is over clocked to 900 core 1125 mem or something around that

[Pulpoh]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

My XFX 5970 is defective. BC2 starts to crash so often (a lot more than usual) so I ran furmark at stock speed. My comp would crash in like 2 minutes and the GPU fan blowing at 100% until I hard reset it. 2D mode is unaffected. I hope XFX have reserve to exchange for this.

I have the same problem in 2D & 3D:

XFX 5970 BE
HX1000W
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Catalyst 10.5

Upgraded to 10.5 and started with gray screens. Edit my profile increasing the speed in 2D and started this new problem. I went back to 10.4 (unninstall and Driver Sweeper) and so far, so good...

Sorry for my english...

[Lionheart]

Well not at all except Splinter Cell but i think that was much more than microstuttering. :laugh: :laugh: Quadfire is awesome! You planning on going 4x 5870s? :respect:

Is it possible to have more than 4 cards in a PC? Maybe have Hexafire or Octafire. :laugh::laugh:

Ah sweet, hahaha nah no 4 HD5870's, too much for me, I would go with wat you got bro, just 2 HD5970's:toast: and overclock em like crazy, but gonna do sum other little upgrades first:laugh::toast:

Octafire sounds cool and crazy & extremely buggy lol, you could get 7 of those new galaxy single slot GTX470's and run them lol:laugh:


PS. look at these prices lol Aussie dollar as well:laugh:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_978&products_id=13113 Gigabyte HD5970

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1066&products_id=14235 EVGA GTX 480 SC

[mdsx1950]

Ah sweet, hahaha nah no 4 HD5870's, too much for me, I would go with wat you got bro, just 2 HD5970's:toast: and overclock em like crazy, but gonna do sum other little upgrades first:laugh::toast:

Octafire sounds cool and crazy & extremely buggy lol, you could get 7 of those new galaxy single slot GTX470's and run them lol:laugh:


PS. look at these prices lol Aussie dollar as well:laugh:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_978&products_id=13113 Gigabyte HD5970

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1066&products_id=14235 EVGA GTX 480 SC

Haha cool. 2x 5970s are coool! :p
:respect:
Wonder how 7x GTX 470s will perform :D

And shit the price on that GTX 480 is crazy!!!! :eek::eek:

[Pulpoh]

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1066&products_id=14235 EVGA GTX 480 SC

Wow... that's an expensive AGEIA! :shadedshu :laugh:

[Lionheart]

Haha cool. 2x 5970s are coool! :p
:respect:
Wonder how 7x GTX 470s will perform :D

And shit the price on that GTX 480 is crazy!!!! :eek::eek:

Lol awesome I might just do it then:toast: lol yeah 7 GTX 470's should handle final doom at least :laugh::laugh::laugh:.

Yeah that GTX480 is pricey, theres a zotac one for $639 which iz a way better deal, but seriously $779 for a HD5970, that is a crazy arse bargain, ima grab 2 thanx lol:D

Wow... that's an expensive AGEIA! :shadedshu :laugh:

Lol haha true its the super clocked version, bascially a waste of money version:laugh:

[Black Panther]

Soooo...

Anyone tried 10.5 yet? :)

[Lionheart]

Soooo...

Anyone tried 10.5 yet? :)

I've been using since the day they came out and they work great, but Im guessing your referring to HD5970 performance:D:D:D

PS. Soon I will be a member of this club again:D:D:D:D

[Hockster]

10.5 are hit and miss. The higher locked clocks don't bother me, but now I get issues with my DP connected monitor going into sleep.

[Black Panther]

PS. Soon I will be a member of this club again:D:D:D:D

You're still an honorary ex-member ;) :)

I just installed 10.5
The proper way - uninstalled 10.4 - booted in safe mode - ran driver sweeper - rebooted - installed 10.5

Now my idle clocks are once again back to 157/300

Hockster you mentioned higher locked clocks :confused:

Gah nevermind, I started getting teh Measles again!
Twice driver stopped responding while typing this post! :mad:

Make that 3 times just now :banghead:

Off to do erocker's fix to up the 2D clocks before I go crazy! :mad::banghead:

Edit: Wtf this is crazy?


I haven't changed anything yet from profiles but the 10.5 says my 2D should be at at 400/1010 whereas they are at 157/300 :confused: :wtf:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100531/Untitled721.jpg


Edit

Changing 400 to 300 worked for the GPU, I could downclock the 2D gpu clock.
But now there's no way I can downclock the 2D memory. It either remains at 1010 or I have to downclock the 3D mem as well, which is not something I want to do.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100531/Untitled173.jpg

Guess I'm going back to 10.4 :ohwell:

[Hockster]

Higher clocks are supposed to be for multi monitor setups, but a lot of people with a single monitor get them as well.

I actually like the higher locked clocks as off momitor flickering was retarded sometimes when a game would be loading a map or cut scene.

I've given up on Afterburner, it completely disables Xfire in game functions, and Asus Smart Doctor is one of the ugliest software interfaces ever. All I use now are CCC profiles. One for stock, and three different fans speeds and OC values. My card hits 850/1200 at stock volts and I'm damned content running at that speed in demeanding games. Only other "tweak" I use is completely disabling ULPS in the registry. Leaving it enabled causes Everest to lock the system up solid. Lavalys knows, but have been completely unsuccessful getting AMD to work with them on the issue.

[Lionheart]

You're still an honorary ex-member ;) :)

I just installed 10.5
The proper way - uninstalled 10.4 - booted in safe mode - ran driver sweeper - rebooted - installed 10.5

Now my idle clocks are once again back to 157/300

Hockster you mentioned higher locked clocks :confused:

Gah nevermind, I started getting teh Measles again!
Twice driver stopped responding while typing this post! :mad:

Make that 3 times just now :banghead:

Off to do erocker's fix to up the 2D clocks before I go crazy! :mad::banghead:

Edit: Wtf this is crazy?


I haven't changed anything yet from profiles but the 10.5 says my 2D should be at at 400/1010 whereas they are at 157/300 :confused: :wtf:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100531/Untitled721.jpg


Edit

Changing 400 to 300 worked for the GPU, I could downclock the 2D gpu clock.
But now there's no way I can downclock the 2D memory. It either remains at 1010 or I have to downclock the 3D mem as well, which is not something I want to do.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100531/Untitled173.jpg

Guess I'm going back to 10.4 :ohwell:

:toast::toast: Cheers bro:rockout:

Are you using the Asus Bios for your HD5970?:eek:

[mdsx1950]

Lol awesome I might just do it then:toast: lol yeah 7 GTX 470's should handle final doom at least :laugh::laugh::laugh:.

Yeah that GTX480 is pricey, theres a zotac one for $639 which iz a way better deal, but seriously $779 for a HD5970, that is a crazy arse bargain, ima grab 2 thanx lol:D



Lol haha true its the super clocked version, bascially a waste of money version:laugh:

Yeah that 5970 price is awesome. Kinda cheaper than in the US :rockout: Just get 3x 5970s for the fun of it :p

:toast::toast: Cheers sis:rockout:

Are you using the Asus Bios for your HD5970?:eek:

Fixed error :p

[Black Panther]

@ CHAOS KILLA - I'm using the original bios my Sapphire came with.
__________________________________________

Either I was really tired yesterday night or that 10.5 is nothing more than a virus :laugh:

I just couldn't get rid of it.
Trying to uninstall it from the control panel kept giving me a blue screen 'atipmdag' or something.

I even tried system restore which didn't work either :confused: perhaps because I had used driver sweeper?

Trying to install 10.4 was unsuccessful - it kept quitting on me saying driver and CCC were already installed and updated :twitch:

To navigate, I had to run a small window with Furmark in the background to keep the clocks at 735/1010 otherwise I kept crashing constantly. :wtf:

Finally, doing an oldish system restore to 28th May I think, enabled me to uninstall 10.5 and get rid of it.

Lol then I went to sleep. My desktop is still driver-less (I hope) now, when I go back home I'll boot in safe mode run driver sweeper 99 times then driver cleaner pro another 99 times :laugh: and hopefully manage to install 10.4

D'oh! Crazy sh...

[mdsx1950]

Thank god i didn't try the 10.5 on my PC. :cool: But it works really well on my 5750. I felt like trying it on my PC but after reading your post ^^ I think i'll pass lol.

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

@ BP- I think you should nuke the registry for any ATI related keys and go from there. Usually works well for me after driver sweeper but you should remember to remove the backups from driver sweeper as well.

Either way 10.5 have been stable for me although I haven't been gaming that much since installing them. My GPUs are still using the low idle clocks. I did have a strange issue after installing 10.5 where my card would default to 50% fan speed in Overdrive even though it was still locked and grayed out. I had to unlock and disable Overdrive to get an acceptable fan speed.

[Lionheart]

Yeah that 5970 price is awesome. Kinda cheaper than in the US :rockout: Just get 3x 5970s for the fun of it :p



Fixed error :p

Yeah I bet they are cheaper, the HD5970's are normally around $950 - $1050 down under:shadedshu:shadedshu:laugh::laugh: screw that.

Fixed error, oh your a chick:p:p:o:eek:

@ CHAOS KILLA - I'm using the original bios my Sapphire came with.
__________________________________________

Either I was really tired yesterday night or that 10.5 is nothing more than a virus :laugh:

I just couldn't get rid of it.
Trying to uninstall it from the control panel kept giving me a blue screen 'ati2dvag' or something.

I even tried system restore which didn't work either :confused: perhaps because I had used driver sweeper?

Trying to install 10.4 was unsuccessful - it kept quitting on me saying driver and CCC were already installed and updated :twitch:

To navigate, I had to run a small window with Furmark in the background to keep the clocks at 735/1010 otherwise I kept crashing constantly. :wtf:

Finally, doing an oldish system restore to 28th May I think, enabled me to uninstall 10.5 and get rid of it.

Lol then I went to sleep. My desktop is still driver-less (I hope) now, when I go back home I'll boot in safe mode run driver sweeper 99 times then driver cleaner pro another 99 times :laugh: and hopefully manage to install 10.4

D'oh! Crazy sh...

Ah ok cool, just looking at your CCC panel your GPU & memory clocks can go pretty high thats all:toast:

Oh yeah, does anyone know wat the 10.5 drivers even did, to me they are exactly the same as 10.4 but alot more issues for ppl:banghead::banghead::confused:

[Black Panther]

@ BP- I think you should nuke the registry for any ATI related keys and go from there. Usually works well for me after driver sweeper but you should remember to remove the backups from driver sweeper as well.

Either way 10.5 have been stable for me although I haven't been gaming that much since installing them. My GPUs are still using the low idle clocks. I did have a strange issue after installing 10.5 where my card would default to 50% fan speed in Overdrive even though it was still locked and grayed out. I had to unlock and disable Overdrive to get an acceptable fan speed.

No thanks! :laugh:

I've finally managed to get back to 10.4

Here's some shots of my woes...


This was after I ran both Driver Sweeper and Driver Cleaner Pro in safe mode.
I went through the CP, and found that the 5970 still had "a driver"
http://img.techpowerup.org/100601/atidriverwtf.jpg

After that, I uninstalled that driver from CP, rebooted and got this :wtf: i.e. before I could do anything it appeared I still had something which enabled the pc to automatically load some driver and I couldn't cancel the procedure.
http://img.techpowerup.org/100601/atidriverwtf1778.jpg


After that I went into my HD directory and then into Program Files and Program Files (x86) and savagly deleted any file I found which started with the letters ATI...
And then ran Driver Sweeper and Driver Cleaner again...
Rebooted, started to install the 10.4 then the icon in the taskbar started up again trying to load up some driver :confused: getting this:
http://img.techpowerup.org/100601/atidriverwtf2.jpg

Thankfully this time it did work after cancelling all 'restart your computer' and 'found new hardware' notifications. :respect:

Rebooted again, went to CCC, created a profile, found the .xml, set 2D clocks once again to 300/550 and my 5970 is working flawlessly once again.
*whew*

I swear I'll never be downloading an ATI driver again before I see at least 20 posts from different people saying how awesome the driver is, and zero posts saying they had some issue however minor it is!

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

In Win7 I've never seen Windows try to auto install MS drivers for my GPUs but it did happen in Vista like you see there.

[Pulpoh]

I swear I'll never be downloading an ATI driver again before I see at least 20 posts from different people saying how awesome the driver is, and zero posts saying they had some issue however minor it is!

QFT

I need at least 20 lab rats to try the new catalyst 10.6 beta... :laugh:

:slap:

[zithe]

I'll probably pick one up this summer. My dad may get me a job in the factory lul.

[Black Panther]

I'll probably pick one up this summer. My dad may get me a job in the factory lul.

Hey good luck! :toast:

____________

About the driver, it's not bad as it seems actually.
What was weird in my case is that instead of getting the immediately high 2D clocks of 400/1010 I got the old low 2D clocks of 157/300.

And my card's iffy. It just refuses to work at 157/300. Period. I'd start getting blue and red dots all over the monitor followed by freezing and followed by a blank (white, grey or green) screen before the driver starts responding again.

At one time I was thinking of rma'ing the card. But after discovering how to increase the 2D clocks by making a profile for them I thought it'd be stupid to rma if my card worked flawlessly with 2D clocks at 300/500 :ohwell:

For someone with an iffy card like mine and who doesn't know how to increase the 2D clocks, I guess the 10.5 would solve all problems because no measles/GSODs would happen at 400/1000 (or 400/1010 if it's a oc sapphire).

Tbh the 10.5 functioned fine once I installed it - but I didn't want my memory to run at full speed all the time so I decided to uninstall.... and that's where the problems started! :laugh:

[douglatins]

BP, since i bought a 5850 and made a CF with the 5970, never had any issue again with driver stopped working and such, since the 5850 handles all the video output. And gaming performance has been awesome, if you don't know where your next upgrade is, i recommend

[Black Panther]

BP, since i bought a 5850 and made a CF with the 5970, never had any issue again with driver stopped working and such, since the 5850 handles all the video output. And gaming performance has been awesome, if you don't know where your next upgrade is, i recommend

I'm planning a CF mobo come September (+new proc and new ram...)

Apologies for my n00bness but do you mean that you connect your monitor to the 5850 and not to the 5970 while in CF?
:confused:

[Lionheart]

Hey guys, I will be getting my HD5970 within a weeks time and I can't wait, I feel like a kid waiting for a christmas present:laugh:

I will be going quadfire like mdsx1950:rockout: but not straight away, need cash for other things:toast:

[mdsx1950]

Hey guys, I will be getting my HD5970 within a weeks time and I can't wait, I feel like a kid waiting for a christmas present:laugh:

I will be going quadfire like mdsx1950:rockout: but not straight away, need cash for other things:toast:

Hell yeah! :toast:

Toxics or normal? :cool:

P.S you cant exactly call a 5970 normal so i'll ask again... TOXIC or the beast? :p

[Lionheart]

Hell yeah! :toast:

Toxics or normal? :cool:

P.S you cant exactly call a 5970 normal so i'll ask again... TOXIC or the beast? :p

Lol I was gonna go with the toxic but they jacked up the price again:cry:
It was around $1240 AUD but now its like $1560 AUD:cry::banghead::banghead: so its
most likely I will go with BEAST!!!:toast::toast:

[dumo]

Quad run

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4843/screenshot124x.jpg

[Lionheart]

Quad run

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4843/screenshot124x.jpg

DUDE:eek: do you have that 1090T at that speed 24/7 ???:rockout::rockout:

[fullinfusion]

DUDE:eek: do you have that 1090T at that speed 24/7 ???:rockout::rockout:
I highly doubt it, Id like to know what cooling he's running... I think it's a phase unit but I could be mixing him up with someone else

[mdsx1950]

Lol I was gonna go with the toxic but they jacked up the price again:cry:
It was around $1240 AUD but now its like $1560 AUD:cry::banghead::banghead: so its
most likely I will go with BEAST!!!:toast::toast:

Yeah the Beast would do. :laugh: :toast:

Atleast when the 69xx series comes out, you wont have break a sweat over the price... you'll be able to sell both cards and get two "6970s" with a little additional cash :D

I think the 6800 series will have about the exact power of a 5970. :eek:

Wonder what sort of games will stress out the card. :eek:

[Lionheart]

I highly doubt it, Id like to know what cooling he's running... I think it's a phase unit but I could be mixing him up with someone else

Yeah I was about to say man, that just seems to high for a 24/7 overclock, he must of gotten a good batch cpu:toast: or watercooling setup maybe:eek:

Yeah the Beast would do. :laugh: :toast:

Atleast when the 69xx series comes out, you wont have break a sweat over the price... you'll be able to sell both cards and get two "6970s" with a little additional cash :D

I think the 6800 series will have about the exact power of a 5970. :eek:

Wonder what sort of games will stress out the card. :eek:

lol true bro, I can't wait till I get one HD5970 let alone 2 HD6970's when they are released:rockout::rockout: that would be crazy:laugh:fun.

I will be posting up some pics when I get my HD5970:toast:

[dumo]

DUDE:eek: do you have that 1090T at that speed 24/7 ???:rockout::rockout:

Single phase, as long as no condensation then 24/7 is no problem

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/117/screenshot118uj.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3738/aa1111.jpg

[t_ski]

Anyone liking the Cat 10.6's with your 5970? I saw quite a few performance improvements listed in the release notes.

[fullinfusion]

Anyone liking the Cat 10.6's with your 5970? I saw quite a few performance improvements listed in the release notes.
hell ya! I really like this driver..

old driver stock settings

http://img.techpowerup.org/100617/vanccc10.4.jpg

new cat 10.6 stock same test

http://img.techpowerup.org/100617/vanccc10.6.jpg

[Black Panther]

Single phase, as long as no condensation then 24/7 is no problem

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/117/screenshot118uj.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3738/aa1111.jpg

What's the green stuff?

[kevc2181]

I already made a thread about this but it was suggested to me to post here, so I'll just copy and paste it here, thanks!

Hello I've been browsing these forums for a few days soaking up information and I have a few questions. I have 2 Gigabyte 5970 in crossfire. I'm starting to regret buying Gigabyte because one is not working... well sort of. It works fine with the stock cooler on it, but when I put the water block on it stops working. Windows will boot but withing a min or two I get artifacts/lockup or just lockup. I'm using the bitspower black freezer for the 5970, I noticed it does not have the same cut for the CPL-2-50 as the EK block that was causing problems. Mine is all flat. I don't understand why one is working with the water block and the other isn't. I've tried swapping PCI-E slots, water blocks, and testing the cards alone, but it's still the same card acting up every time. Any suggestion???


I wanted to update the BIOS but I e-mailed Gigabyte and they don't have an updated BIOS yet. I've noticed that just about all the 5970s loo the same, so my next question is would it be ok if I flash my card with an updated BIOS from another company? Thanks in advance for any help!!!

***Edit: 3rd question: Should I just RMA it? Or will they just say it works fine with the stock cooler and send it back?

[DannibusX]

I picked up an ASUS HD5970 last week, it's an amazing card. I'm currently using Catalyst 10.4a with it, and this thing chews through any game I throw at it.

I was using 10.5 and then 10.6 until yesterday, but I had some problems with Dirt2 crashing and poor performance.

[sttubs]

I already made a thread about this but it was suggested to me to post here, so I'll just copy and paste it here, thanks!

Hello I've been browsing these forums for a few days soaking up information and I have a few questions. I have 2 Gigabyte 5970 in crossfire. I'm starting to regret buying Gigabyte because one is not working... well sort of. It works fine with the stock cooler on it, but when I put the water block on it stops working. Windows will boot but withing a min or two I get artifacts/lockup or just lockup. I'm using the bitspower black freezer for the 5970, I noticed it does not have the same cut for the CPL-2-50 as the EK block that was causing problems. Mine is all flat. I don't understand why one is working with the water block and the other isn't. I've tried swapping PCI-E slots, water blocks, and testing the cards alone, but it's still the same card acting up every time. Any suggestion???


I wanted to update the BIOS but I e-mailed Gigabyte and they don't have an updated BIOS yet. I've noticed that just about all the 5970s loo the same, so my next question is would it be ok if I flash my card with an updated BIOS from another company? Thanks in advance for any help!!!

***Edit: 3rd question: Should I just RMA it? Or will they just say it works fine with the stock cooler and send it back?


You've already tried everything you can at home by swapping everything around. I'd try to RMA it next. If they don't accept it then sell the one since it works great with stock cooling.

[t_ski]

I already made a thread about this but it was suggested to me to post here, so I'll just copy and paste it here, thanks!

Hello I've been browsing these forums for a few days soaking up information and I have a few questions. I have 2 Gigabyte 5970 in crossfire. I'm starting to regret buying Gigabyte because one is not working... well sort of. It works fine with the stock cooler on it, but when I put the water block on it stops working. Windows will boot but withing a min or two I get artifacts/lockup or just lockup. I'm using the bitspower black freezer for the 5970, I noticed it does not have the same cut for the CPL-2-50 as the EK block that was causing problems. Mine is all flat. I don't understand why one is working with the water block and the other isn't. I've tried swapping PCI-E slots, water blocks, and testing the cards alone, but it's still the same card acting up every time. Any suggestion???


I wanted to update the BIOS but I e-mailed Gigabyte and they don't have an updated BIOS yet. I've noticed that just about all the 5970s loo the same, so my next question is would it be ok if I flash my card with an updated BIOS from another company? Thanks in advance for any help!!!

***Edit: 3rd question: Should I just RMA it? Or will they just say it works fine with the stock cooler and send it back?

I had a brief chat with the ATI engineer who designed the 5970. I was experiencing similar problems to what you are seeing, and I found that the card worked fine once it was heated up a little. He explained that the waterblocks can put additional stress on the cards and cause it to bend, bow, etc. Once the card heats up, the solder joints soften a little and it starts to work fine. At least it did for me.

Try running the loop with your fans off, or your pump off (or both) to heat the loop up quickly. I also found I could run FurMark to heat things up with the fans and pump on high, then stop the benchmark and run the fans on low. I have a few ideas to check out about contact that I plan to investigate if I ever get a chance to put my second block in.

[kevc2181]

I had a brief chat with the ATI engineer who designed the 5970. I was experiencing similar problems to what you are seeing, and I found that the card worked fine once it was heated up a little. He explained that the waterblocks can put additional stress on the cards and cause it to bend, bow, etc. Once the card heats up, the solder joints soften a little and it starts to work fine. At least it did for me.

Try running the loop with your fans off, or your pump off (or both) to heat the loop up quickly. I also found I could run FurMark to heat things up with the fans and pump on high, then stop the benchmark and run the fans on low. I have a few ideas to check out about contact that I plan to investigate if I ever get a chance to put my second block in.

I tried running the loop with no water and it works fine, just can't test it long because it gets close to 100C fast. I also tried with the pump turned off... I warmed it up to 50C then turned the pump on. It cooled to 35C after the pump was turned on. Then it locked up again =/ The case fans were off, so I may have to heat and cycle the water to warm it all up too(But if that's the only solution I'll probably just try to RMA it or sell it because that just takes too long as a perminant solution) Seems safe to say it's either a cold bug or like you said it may have something to fo with the force of the block on the card. I'll try reinstalling the card using minimal screw tension and see if that works. I'm also going to try thicker thermal pad in a few spots just to make sure everything is making contact.

[t_ski]

If you reinstall the card completely (take it out of the loop, clean off any thermal paste, etc). please look for contact issues. I think my problem may be related to the PLX chip having too thick of a pad on it, causing the card to bow. Also, before you remove the block, see if you can put a straight-edge on the backplate of the card to see if it is still flat or not. Please let me know your results with these.

[dumo]

What's the green stuff?Liquid tape to seal it from moisture/condensation when using xtreme cold cooler


http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9968/screenshot097o.jpg

[WhiteHatMAtt]

After Doing way to much reading i have purchased this beast of a card... massive does not do it any justice!:laugh: (in my 800d i have had to remove the hot swap cover to fit my sr200 res) I was going to go with 2 5870s it was better to go this way to pass it by my wife (besides the rights to brag) had two 5770s in a cfx config before and could play metro 2033 at ok settings, now i figured that i could crank it (benq 25" 1920x1080 res) AA16x nata.....:banghead: game looks nice but frame rate is poor like 20fps down to 17fps when a sticky bomb goes off?? odd using 10.3 drivers poped it in another pc (thinking it may be my mobo or cpu... HUSH YOU INTEL FAN BOYS!) i7 920 4.2ghz 6gb ddr3 ssd for os and games same bloody thing.,... Called sapphire to see if it was a defective... nope after swapping it for another one same thing.. any ideas? btw at AAx4 works good or is metro 2033 the new rig killer until Crysis 2 comes out... hmmmm for $630 CDN I am a wee bit disappointed
:ohwell:

[Black Panther]

or is metro 2033 the new rig killer

Metro 2033 is a killer. It's the game which gives me the worst performance. I used to think it was because of the rest of my system since I'm running on a dual core E8400 although at 4Ghz, DDR2 RAM and pci-e x16 1.0 :eek:

I'm going to upgrade mobo, proc and RAM in 3 months time...

Right now I'm missing my 5970 :cry:
I'm at the summer house, so using laptop in system specs :ohwell:

I don't remember the exact fps I used to get with Metro, I had just started the game and didn't have time to finish it... but I remember getting lag and thinking wtf I shouldn't be getting this lag with this card even though I maxed all settings. Then I thought probably it's the E8400's fault...

Edit to check if your card is not defective run the Unigine v2 benchmark and compare your scores with those of the rest of us in this thread. If the scores are similar, there's nothing to worry about.:)

[WhiteHatMAtt]

WELL i AM GLAD it is not just me!!!! I was scared there for a bit lol got the new card litteraly as soon as i was done posting (nice thing about owning your own pc shop express delivery on net30 lol) so i will bench it once i am home. ahhhh i was pulling the same scored roughly hmmm the future of gaming you need to drop 2k on cards to max out even then don't be hopeful!:D

Metro 2033 is a killer. It's the game which gives me the worst performance. I used to think it was because of the rest of my system since I'm running on a dual core E8400 although at 4Ghz, DDR2 RAM and pci-e x16 1.0 :eek:

I'm going to upgrade mobo, proc and RAM in 3 months time...

Right now I'm missing my 5970 :cry:
I'm at the summer house, so using laptop in system specs :ohwell:

I don't remember the exact fps I used to get with Metro, I had just started the game and didn't have time to finish it... but I remember getting lag and thinking wtf I shouldn't be getting this lag with this card even though I maxed all settings. Then I thought probably it's the E8400's fault...

Edit to check if your card is not defective run the Unigine v2 benchmark and compare your scores with those of the rest of us in this thread. If the scores are similar, there's nothing to worry about.:)

[DannibusX]

Metro 2033 runs like crap on my system at max settings as well, I need to tone it down so I can actually finish the game, lol.

[kevc2181]

If you reinstall the card completely (take it out of the loop, clean off any thermal paste, etc). please look for contact issues. I think my problem may be related to the PLX chip having too thick of a pad on it, causing the card to bow. Also, before you remove the block, see if you can put a straight-edge on the backplate of the card to see if it is still flat or not. Please let me know your results with these.

I used a level to see if the card is flat, and there seem to be zero bending. I've also checked for contact issues and everything is contacting great. I doubt it is a contact issue tho, because for mine the card will run just fine with no water flow, but when the water is turned back on it locks up. Now maybe there is some bending on the card that isn't easily seen and with high temps it works fine, this could just also be a cold bug. I think I may try a new water block. I'm using the bitspower black freezer and I may try to EK block next.
But then again my other card works just fine with the bitspower block... maybe i"ll just sell it with the stock cooler (works fine stock) and run the good card. I'm not getting much performance gains running them in crossfire to warrant the money I spent on them anyway... gonna ponder all this for a day or two and try a few more things :)

[t_ski]

The engineer told me the card was designed and tested to go below 0 C. What I originally thought was a "cold-bug" was showing up below 28C.

[WhiteHatMAtt]

UPDATE NEW 5970 LOL CRASHING WITH 10.6 DRIVERS AHHHH OPENED A TICKET WITH SAPPHIRE AND WAITING FOR A RESPONSE! Going to try the 9.12 drivers having some people say that they work good and play with afterburner a bit.. sad day here in Ontario... well they finaly found the cause of the quake... Quebc is finally breaking off from canada thank god!

[t_ski]

I have not tried the 10.6 drivers yet, but I am on the 10.3a and have no issues with dual 5970's.

[WhiteHatMAtt]

UPDATE! :laugh: INSTALLED 10.5 DRIVERS WORKING AWESOME!!!! NO ISSUES AT ALL EVERYTHING IS SMOOTH AS CAN BE PLAYING AREUND A BIT WITH MSI AFTER BURNER WHAT A GREAT PIECE OF SOFTWARE :rockout:

I have not tried the 10.6 drivers yet, but I am on the 10.3a and have no issues with dual 5970's.

[sttubs]

Excellent news & welcome to TPU.

[hv43082]

Installed 10.6 Catalyst. BC2 takes longer to load and seem more laggy. Rolling back to previous driver.

[mdsx1950]

Installed 10.6 Catalyst. BC2 takes longer to load and seem more laggy. Rolling back to previous driver.


Did you check anything else other than BC2? And how was the performance?

[t_ski]

Installed 10.6 Catalyst. BC2 takes longer to load and seem more laggy. Rolling back to previous driver.

Isn't there a crossfire optimization pack that should be downloaded & installed also? These cards basically have internal crossfire...

[WhiteHatMAtt]

Isn't there a crossfire optimization pack that should be downloaded & installed also? These cards basically have internal crossfire...

Still no luck here with BC2 :banghead: uninstalled and reinstalled not tested yet everything else works... seems as if no one is having luck with 10.6 drivers.. sad really sad that most of peoples issues are driver related. never had an issue with my 5770 xfire.. hope ATI looks at this and takes care of it in the 6xxx series cards

[Black Panther]

Isn't there a crossfire optimization pack that should be downloaded & installed also? These cards basically have internal crossfire...

I had done that although not with the 10.6 drivers but it made no difference at all in Metro 2033 at least :ohwell:

[Lionheart]

Wats happening with the HD5970 cards & 10.6 drivers? :eek:

[mdsx1950]

Did anyone try the 10.6 drivers on your 5970s on stock???

I didn't try them yet though i did try them on my 5750. When overclocked at 705/1150 the idle clocks are running at 400/1150 but on stock (700/1150), the idle clocks run on 157/300. :confused:

[trt740]

Here is a good review for ya boys http://www.overclock.net/ati-cooling/754712-accelero-xtreme-5970-review.html Unreal how good this cooler is. If you buy one read this thread to avoid trouble http://www.overclock.net/ati-cooling/754726-arctic-cooling-accelero-xtreme-5970-installation.html

[sttubs]

I still have that cooler, bought it on a whim, not sure why I don't overclock anything. I was not aware of those mounting problems, thanks for the tip & links. Everything runs so smooth on my system that I hate to toy with it. I was thinking if games become more demanding, then it would warrant overclocking & that cooler.

[trt740]

I still have that cooler, bought it on a whim, not sure why I don't overclock anything. I was not aware of those mounting problems, thanks for the tip & links. Everything runs so smooth on my system that I hate to toy with it. I was thinking if games become more demanding, then it would warrant overclocking & that cooler.

It is worth the change just for the sound reduction alone it is near silent in a case.

[Black Panther]

Wats happening with the HD5970 cards & 10.6 drivers? :eek:

Seems this driver isn't that great for us at all.
Fullinfusion had problems as well..

I haven't tested it out.
And don't plan to..... :laugh:

[sttubs]

I'm still using 10.4's, everything plays smoothly so I haven't messed with anything newer.

[Pulpoh]

This is new for me:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5594/5970missing.th.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/5970missing.jpg/)

Guess what? Catalyst 10.6... :shadedshu :banghead:

(2D fix 300 - 1000MHz)

[douglatins]

Peeps, i am bidding goodbye to the clubhouse, i am selling my card. Thanks for all the help and love.
I have a 480ATM and planning on waiting for dual fermi.

[Black Panther]

Peeps, i am bidding goodbye to the clubhouse, i am selling my card. Thanks for all the help and love.
I have a 480ATM and planning on waiting for dual fermi.

Enjoy your new toy douglatins! :toast:

I'm still using 10.4 myself too (well I'm mainly laptop-bound for the summer :ohwell:) but 10.5 gave me hell and I'm a bit wary to try out 10.6 for now.

[Glazierman]

Smart man 10.5 and 10.6 suxx tried both back to 10.4 even called ATI on 10.6 said go back to 10.4 they know they have glitches??? on windows 7 64 bit??? At this rate I'll wait till they come out with 12.4 LOL

[douglatins]

Enjoy your new toy douglatins! :toast:

I'm still using 10.4 myself too (well I'm mainly laptop-bound for the summer :ohwell:) but 10.5 gave me hell and I'm a bit wary to try out 10.6 for now.

I know right, thats the deal with the 5970, serious muscle, but not user friendly.

[douglatins]

Oh great... my 5970 is givin me headache after i got rid of it, the guys is getting the driver stopped working, freezes and those red squares.

If the guy cant fix it, i bet ill get it back and try all sorts of crazy shit to it, then try to return to seller, then if not paperweight

[fullinfusion]

Seems this driver isn't that great for us at all.
Fullinfusion had problems as well..

I haven't tested it out.
And don't plan to..... :laugh:
Big time problem's, The 10.6 was a bloody nightmare to remove. Im starting to think they wrote wrong code in that driver that is intended for the other card's and not for the 5970's

Im on the 10.4 and really dont think Im going to mess with any upcoming drivers unless
...... Well like Black Panther said.....
Till I see 20 other ppl having nothing but great results then I'll think about trying it ;)

I have not seen the measles or any corruption for some time now and would like to leave it that way.

[Chicken Patty]

You guys should all ditch those those 5970's and go green! The best ever! Lol

J/k, never bought an nvidia card except for my GX2 and ended up switching rapidly to c/f'ed 4850's.

[Black Panther]

Oh great... my 5970 is givin me headache after i got rid of it, the guys is getting the driver stopped working, freezes and those red squares.

If the guy cant fix it, i bet ill get it back and try all sorts of crazy shit to it, then try to return to seller, then if not paperweight

Tell him to use the 10.4 driver, nothing less nothing more.

And, to use erocker's fix I had posted earlier in this thread to increase the 2D clocks.

The card works fine then. It's not a problem with the card, it's a driver problem.

[mdsx1950]

You guys should all ditch those those 5970's and go green! The best ever! Lol

J/k, never bought an nvidia card except for my GX2 and ended up switching rapidly to c/f'ed 4850's.

I might go green once the MARS II is out :p :toast:

[douglatins]

Guys is there any ultimate fix for the driver crash, red dots and instability on the card? Any modded bioses with increased 2D? Anything?

Made a BIOS, will try it when the card gets back to me

[douglatins]

Disregard, wrong posting

[douglatins]

ATM using this BIOS...
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=185918
and i am back at the CH, i got it back, using 10.5 drivers and until now working great (crossing fingers)

[fullinfusion]

ATM using this BIOS...
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=185918
and i am back at the CH, i got it back, using 10.5 drivers and until now working great (crossing fingers)
Interesting for sure, but I'm not jumping on this band wagon just yet. I think till more ppl have 100% confirmed the bios to work then I'll chance it, but till then :shadedshu

I haven't had any problems with this Saphire OC'd gpu for a few months now, but then again its always a balmy 23c in the room sense summer hit.

[douglatins]

Interesting for sure, but I'm not jumping on this band wagon just yet. I think till more ppl have 100% confirmed the bios to work then I'll chance it, but till then :shadedshu

I haven't had any problems with this Saphire OC'd gpu for a few months now, but then again its always a balmy 23c in the room sense summer hit.

BALMY? Omg thats like ok temps im my room, in the summer i get 30C plus. And you WC? hehe cool

Also my card is a XFX, and its no harm trying bioses.

I will test the card for the next week, before putting it back on sale

Also is that a wicked's laser? I want to buy myself a articIII

[fullinfusion]

BALMY? Omg thats like ok temps im my room, in the summer i get 30C plus. And you WC? hehe cool

Also my card is a XFX, and its no harm trying bioses.

I will test the card for the next week, before putting it back on sale

Also is that a wicked's laser? I want to buy myself a articIII
Cool and thanks, Umm no Ray Foss laser, and good luck getting an ArticIII, if your lucky to get one as there is a huge amount of back orders and further more get it past Customs :eek:

It will be cool for sure.

Oh your not in the US so customs might not be your problem... Id check out RF as I had great luck with them.... burn baby burn lol :D

[douglatins]

Cool and thanks, Umm no Ray Foss laser, and good luck getting an ArticIII, if your lucky to get one as there is a huge amount of back orders and further more get it past Customs :eek:

It will be cool for sure.

Oh your not in the US so customs might not be your problem... Id check out RF as I had great luck with them.... burn baby burn lol :D

Just ask for they say its star wars memorabilia. I looks like a LS, just dont thell that asshole George

HOLY SHIT PRICE WAS 197 WHEN I FIRST SAW IT, NO WAY JOSEPH

Also dont get me wrong a laser is awesome, but how could i have buttloads of fun with it without breaking the law? I know its kinda of a oxymoron, but still...
- Maybe make something like a awesome laser grid, like those security in movies.
- Burning ants
- Burning paper
- Melting stuff
- Engraving in wood
- showing off to friends
- pretending to be a jedi

what else?

[grunt_408]

Got me a HIS ATI Radeon HD5970 2GB. Should be here tomorrow. Will post photos when instaled. Join me up yo. :P

[douglatins]

Got me a HIS ATI Radeon HD5970 2GB. Should be here tomorrow. Will post photos when instaled. Join me up yo. :P

UPDATE SPECS :mad:









:o



:p

[hv43082]

It's too hot here in Miami right now...my card is overheating and shutting down during bad company 2. I just flashed to the latest XFX bios and now finally have fan control. Should I use MSI afterburner to auto adjust fan speed?

[sttubs]

It's too hot here in Miami right now...my card is overheating and shutting down during bad company 2. I just flashed to the latest XFX bios and now finally have fan control. Should I use MSI afterburner to auto adjust fan speed?

Where did you find the latest XFX bios, please link.

[douglatins]

It's too hot here in Miami right now...my card is overheating and shutting down during bad company 2. I just flashed to the latest XFX bios and now finally have fan control. Should I use MSI afterburner to auto adjust fan speed?

Use the fan chart to make a fan cycle that ramps up depending on TEMPs, IMHO is the best ;)

Where did you find the latest XFX bios, please link.

Uhm.... like in the BIOS database here in TPU? :wtf:

[grunt_408]

Ok what is the best driver to use with this card at the moment?

[mdsx1950]

Ok what is the best driver to use with this card at the moment?

10.4a. Thats what im using. And don't even try using the 10.7 beta driver. It has some major crossfire issues so you'll be stuck with a 5970.

[grunt_408]

Thanks. It is always good to know these things before I learn the hard way :).

[hv43082]

So who wants to be the guinea pig for 10.7 driver? Last time I tried 10.6 and it bit me in the ass.

[grunt_408]

Haha I will have a crack at it. Although looking at the release notes it may not be wise. Nothing said in there about the 5970. So I might use 10.4.

[crazyeyesreaper]

just use 10.4a and be done with it stable and they work as they say dont fix what aint broke.

[Black Panther]

So who wants to be the guinea pig for 10.7 driver? Last time I tried 10.6 and it bit me in the ass.

I'm waiting... :D

The last one I tried was 10.5 and my pc kept blue-screening @ startup :wtf: Gave me hell to get rid of it and back to 10.4

[grunt_408]

I'm waiting... :D

The last one I tried was 10.5 and my pc kept blue-screening @ startup :wtf: Gave me hell to get rid of it and back to 10.4

Exactly why I asked. I am done with learning from experience :rockout:

[douglatins]

10.5 ATM, no issues here

And proper 2D clocks 157/300 and no crashing in flash and normal desktop

[hv43082]

come'on guys...we must take turn being the guinea pig...it's a dirty job but someone got to do it...hahaha...so I have a chance to add a 5870 (in exchange for one intel X25 80GB+$100), is it worth it?

[douglatins]

come'on guys...we must take turn being the guinea pig...it's a dirty job but someone got to do it...hahaha...so I have a chance to add a 5870 (in exchange for one intel X25 80GB+$100), is it worth it?

Yes, until raid is not supported in TRIM, no need to use it

[grunt_408]

Ahwell I know how to clean drivers out. I have both 10.7 and 10.4 here. I will try 10.7 first. If you hear any swearing don't worry it is just me removing 10.7 and putting on 10.4 :roll:

[douglatins]

Ahwell I know how to clean drivers out. I have both 10.7 and 10.4 here. I will try 10.7 first. If you hear any swearing don't worry it is just me removing 10.7 and putting on 10.4 :roll:

Let me know i am waiting for the results :D


vvvvv---- Uhm cant wait that long hehe

[grunt_408]

I am waiting for the delivery man/woman. I just checked it and it onboard with the delivery driver :P . Hurry up I want my new card....


Edit Card arrived. Decided to use drivers on the disc 10.5. Give me a while and I will give it a workout :)

[grunt_408]

Running 10.7's seems to be ok. DIRT 2 looks pretty :)

[mdsx1950]

DIRT 2 looks pretty :)

:eek::eek: What do you mean? Does it look better than usual?

[Chicken Patty]

Wouldn't see why it would look better, but let's see what he has to say.

[douglatins]

Wouldn't see why it would look better, but let's see what he has to say.

He just got the card, and must have run before on a crappier card, so of course it looks better on the NEW 5970 with HIGH and AAs

[Chicken Patty]

Now it all makes sense LOL

[grunt_408]

Yeah that is exactly what I mean. It looks so much better with the 5970 than it did with my 4890 crossfire setup with heat issues. :)

[crazyeyesreaper]

well east cost handle already showed the reason for that its not that the new 5k cards render better its the difference between DX10 render path and DX11 render path i cant remember where the thread is but its on the forums somewhere
Found it >
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=112961

it should be mentioned DIRT 2 runs ONLY in DX9 or DX11 thats it nadda nothing caput stated by the W1zzard himself so yea you basically went from DX9 console port to DX11 goodies

DX 11 below
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/dirt2/dirt2_DX11.jpg

DX 9 Below
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/dirt2/dirt2_DX9.jpg

[grunt_408]

Haha it does look heaps better with DX11. I have just finished putting the 10.4 drivers on in search of the best performance :P

[hv43082]

10.7 driver slow down BFBC2 loading time, not much. It also seems more laggy than 10.5. I would revert back but I'm RMA my card back to XFX for overheating issue (fan at 85% with side panel open and still shut down after like 1/2 hr of playing...sigh).

[fullinfusion]

Just ask for they say its star wars memorabilia. I looks like a LS, just dont thell that asshole George

HOLY SHIT PRICE WAS 197 WHEN I FIRST SAW IT, NO WAY JOSEPH

Also dont get me wrong a laser is awesome, but how could i have buttloads of fun with it without breaking the law? I know its kinda of a oxymoron, but still...
- Maybe make something like a awesome laser grid, like those security in movies.
- Burning ants
- Burning paper
- Melting stuff
- Engraving in wood
- showing off to friends
- pretending to be a jedi

what else?
Umm changing a red stop light to green lol... Just point it at the sensor and 1 second later its green!

Umm and just to burn shit lol, what else can ya say?

[fullinfusion]

ATM using this BIOS...
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=185918
and i am back at the CH, i got it back, using 10.5 drivers and until now working great (crossing fingers)
Hows the flash working out douglatins?

I have a spare gpu as I'm getting prepped for the new flash... Anything I need to know?

[t_ski]

10.7a is out. One improvement is for quadfire Eyefinity setups:

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/ATICat107aBetaDriver.aspx

[random]

add me add me add me :)

[Lionheart]

add me add me add me :)

Don't add him:p, he's giving his HD5970 to me:roll::roll::roll::p:D

[mdsx1950]

I can't wait to join the HD6970 Clubhouse. :D

[Lionheart]

I can't wait to join the HD6970 Clubhouse. :D

Im already ahead of you bro:laugh::laugh::laugh::toast:

[Dio]

Hi there, can I join?,I have two 5970's... I just got done building this yesterday, here are some pics:

http://s355.photobucket.com/albums/r480/RazerG/T-980X/

[fullinfusion]

Hi there, can I join?,I have two 5970's... I just got done building this yesterday, here are some pics:

http://s355.photobucket.com/albums/r480/RazerG/T-980X/
Nope sorry this is a single gpu club lol :slap:

Of coarse you can join :toast:

Welcome Dio, and have ya read all the posts from the other members?

There is a lot of great info in this thread. :pimp:

[Dio]

Nope sorry this is a single gpu club lol :slap:

Of coarse you can join :toast:

Welcome and have ya read all the posts from the other members?

There is a lot of great info in this thread. :pimp:

Not really, I just registered, I had the first page bookmarked for a while now, this was my first build from scratch.

[Black Panther]

Sorry guys I've been out of action for a while - with being on vacation and keeping up with moderating etc...

If I missed anyone out please send me a pm and I'll edit the 1st post accordingly :)

[fullinfusion]

Not really, I just registered, I had the first page bookmarked for a while now, this was my first build from scratch.
looks great!
I have the same case but the AMD edition and love all the space inside.

have you seen the TPU Free Image uploader? Dont use the photo bucket crap ;)

[fullinfusion]

Sorry guys I've been out of action for a while - with being on vacation and keeping up with moderating etc...

If I missed anyone out please send me a pm and I'll edit the 1st post accordingly :)
Sure.... Mr Modererator lol ;)

I except your excuse :rolleyes:

@ DIO
What driver you using?

[Dio]

Sure.... Mr Modererator lol ;)

I except your excuse :rolleyes:

@ DIO
What driver you using?

Going back in forth with 10.5 and 10.7, debating which is better atm :banghead:

I like the case too, I just wished it was a bit bigger in the inside lol. as you can see the Noctua is HUGE, it blocks up 3 slots of ram, and blocks the first pcie slot.

[fullinfusion]

Going back in forth with 10.5 and 10.7, debating which is better atm :banghead:

I like the case too, I just wished it was a bit bigger in the inside lol. as you can see the Noctua is HUGE, it blocks up 3 slots of ram, and blocks the first pcie slot.
Im always testing CCC drivers and I still go back to the 10.4's

Erocker, another moderator runs the 10.4a CCC on his X-fired cards and loves them... but atm I think he's on the 10.7 just because he did a clean os install. :wtf:

Do you have any bench marks you can share with us?

Mark06
Vantage
ect?

[fullinfusion]

Here's my case ATM

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/DSC00201.jpg

[Dio]

Im always testing CCC drivers and I still go back to the 10.4's

Erocker, another moderator runs the 10.4a CCC on his X-fired cards and loves them... but atm I think he's on the 10.7 just because he did a clean os install. :wtf:

Do you have any bench marks you can share with us?

Mark06
Vantage
ect?

Ive been installing games, and tweaking, haven't done any official benches yet, considering GPU's are at stock clocks, And I have been trying to see how far I can go with the 980X on air.

I'll keep you posted with some benches later on.

[erocker]

Ive been installing games, and tweaking, haven't done any official benches yet, considering GPU's are at stock clocks, And I have been trying to see how far I can go with the 980X on air.

I'll keep you posted with some benches later on.

You have a very nice system! :) Use the 10.7's. I find them to be stable and I haven't had an issue with them. I find that image quality is better with games like Left 4 Dead and other Valve games. They also work better for video playback than any other drivers I've used. Have fun! :toast:

[Dio]

You have a very nice system! :) Use the 10.7's. I find them to be stable and I haven't had an issue with them. I find that image quality is better with games like Left 4 Dead and other Valve games. They also work better for video playback than any other drivers I've used. Have fun! :toast:

True, I find the 10.7 to be better, big FPS gains over 10.5 yet I hear I can get better GPU clocks using 10.5? I'm trying to overclock as much as i can but also keep it safe without frying them. :laugh:


These are my current clocks, still tweaking. lol "Core i9"
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r480/RazerG/Setup.png

[erocker]

True, I find the 10.7 to be better, big FPS gains over 10.5 yet I hear I can get better GPU clocks using 10.5? I'm trying to overclock as much as i can but also keep it safe without frying them. :laugh:


These are my current clocks, still tweaking. lol "Core i9"
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r480/RazerG/Setup.png

Awesome! It makes sense with the overclocking thing with different drivers. 10.7's utilize more of the card, stressing it more.

[fullinfusion]

True, I find the 10.7 to be better, big FPS gains over 10.5 yet I hear I can get better GPU clocks using 10.5? I'm trying to overclock as much as i can but also keep it safe without frying them. :laugh:


These are my current clocks, still tweaking. lol "Core i9"
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r480/RazerG/Setup.png

Nice Hardware Dio :respect: but you mean I7 don't ya?

Awesome! It makes sense with the overclocking thing with different drivers. 10.7's utilize more of the card, stressing it more.
I find the same Erocker, but where I seen the huge different was using drivers on my old 3870X2's.

[fullinfusion]

True, I find the 10.7 to be better, big FPS gains over 10.5 yet I hear I can get better GPU clocks using 10.5? I'm trying to overclock as much as i can but also keep it safe without frying them. :laugh:


These are my current clocks, still tweaking. lol "Core i9"
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r480/RazerG/Setup.png
Dio, do you just MSI Afterburner to clock the card with voltage bump's?

I use Sapphire Red line and I know ppl are going to give me flack on it.

But really, I clock higher using it alone. I'm able to get the memory up to 1300MHz using it. :roll:

[Dio]

Dio, do you just MSI Afterburner to clock the card with voltage bump's?

I use Sapphire Red line and I know ppl are going to give me flack on it.

But really, I clock higher using it alone. I'm able to get the memory up to 1300MHz using it. :roll:

Yeah only MSI Afterburner, and if you look at the Core Temp in the pic, you can see it reads the CPU as i9, I lol'd when I saw that.

[fullinfusion]

Yeah only MSI Afterburner, and if you look at the Core Temp in the pic, you can see it reads the CPU as i9, I lol'd when I saw that.
Haha I didnt see that. Your going to have to give Red Line a go once you get settled in.

[Dio]

Here's a teaser for you, CPU was at current clock, and GPU's was stock on 10.7a

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/Unigene 2.0815.png



-Note I disabled tessellation


Im about to do 10.5 with slight OC GPU clocks, I'll post the results.


EDIT**** Here are the results, 10.7 with 10.5 hotfix, slight overclock on GPU's
http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/U2.png

[Vellari]

Hello to everyone,

I'm new to this particular forum, but I thought I'd drop my few cents in since I recently upgraded to a 5970 (among a few other components). Performance is as expected but I was pleasently surprised to see how cool and quiet it runs (atleast in comparison to my earlier 2x 4850 CF setup which was loud as heck).

Here's some overview benchmarks and sys details. No overclocks as of yet.

http://jrtihw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pV-UoS5I0az0IJGNUbPk0Mka5tBoP8IOuOh0kJqfq0yGlVokZASOZ LmRceEi1OClO3fDvERx7sM7k2VmLYHuIAdvM52p9oTbR/benchmarks.jpg?psid=1

[fullinfusion]

Here's a teaser for you, CPU was at current clock, and GPU's was stock on 10.7a

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/Unigene 2.0815.png



-Note I disabled tessellation


Im about to do 10.5 with slight OC GPU clocks, I'll post the results.


EDIT**** Here are the results, 10.7 with 10.5 hotfix, slight overclock on GPU's
http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/U2.png

Nice, I'll turn tessellation off for the hell of it and post my single stock run.

[fullinfusion]

Hello to everyone,

I'm new to this particular forum, but I thought I'd drop my few cents in since I recently upgraded to a 5970 (among a few other components). Performance is as expected but I was pleasently surprised to see how cool and quiet it runs (atleast in comparison to my earlier 2x 4850 CF setup which was loud as heck).

Here's some overview benchmarks and sys details. No overclocks as of yet.

http://jrtihw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pV-UoS5I0az0IJGNUbPk0Mka5tBoP8IOuOh0kJqfq0yGlVokZASOZ LmRceEi1OClO3fDvERx7sM7k2VmLYHuIAdvM52p9oTbR/benchmarks.jpg?psid=1
Welcome Vellari, I see this thread is coming back to life again :rockout:

[Dio]

Welcome Vellari, I see this thread is coming back to life again :rockout:

lol, why has it died?, some benches, all 10.7a only.. same OC GPU clocks.
I did Heaven 2.0 and 2.1 with same exact setting to see the difference, with Tessellation ON.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/results.png

K, now Im going to do some gaming :D

[fullinfusion]

lol, why has it died?, some benches, all 10.7a only.. same OC GPU clocks.
I did Heaven 2.0 and 2.1 with same exact setting to see the difference, with Tessellation ON.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/results.png

K, now Im going to do some gaming :D
Na it's just a thread just kinda dies off for a bit of time than comes straight to life lol...

I also noticed ver 2.0 gives better scores over the 2.1 ver, go figure.

I think it was enhanced for the Nvidia gpu to be honest lol, but hey whatever fancy's them :slap:

[douglatins]

Hi there, can I join?,I have two 5970's... I just got done building this yesterday, here are some pics:

http://s355.photobucket.com/albums/r480/RazerG/T-980X/

Hey Dio, does the D14 compatible with 12gb of dominators? i had to dehair a stick to fit the mega, also hows temps? they look awfully close

[Dio]

Hey Dio, does the D14 compatible with 12gb of dominators? i had to dehair a stick to fit the mega, also hows temps? they look awfully close

Depends which ram you use and the size of your mobo,Im using 6gbs, three of my ram slots are completely blocked off because of it, don't get me wrong its prob the best air cooler you can get right now. As for ram temps I cant tell, I dont have any software that tells me.

[douglatins]

Depends which ram you use and the size of your mobo,Im using 6gbs, three of my ram slots are completely blocked off because of it, don't get me wrong its prob the best air cooler you can get right now. As for ram temps I cant tell, I dont have any software that tells me.

So you are not using triple channel then

[Dio]

So you are not using triple channel then

CPU-Z is reading it as dual channel, yet the ram specs are triple, strange.

[fullinfusion]

Depends which ram you use and the size of your mobo,Im using 6gbs, three of my ram slots are completely blocked off because of it, don't get me wrong its prob the best air cooler you can get right now. As for ram temps I cant tell, I dont have any software that tells me.
I bet those sticks run nice and cool having your cpu cooler pulling nice cool air over the memory HS...

[Dio]

I bet those sticks run nice and cool having your cpu cooler pulling nice cool air over the memory HS...

Right, that's what I positioned the cooler the way I did :

http://s3.amazonaws.com/augustl-stuff/haf-932-air-flow-28.png
http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/FILE0010.jpg

[fullinfusion]

lol, why has it died?, some benches, all 10.7a only.. same OC GPU clocks.
I did Heaven 2.0 and 2.1 with same exact setting to see the difference, with Tessellation ON.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/results.png

K, now Im going to do some gaming :D
WOW I admire the power those gpu's have :eek:

Here's mine at the same settings as you, but I clocked up the gpu and cpu.... its about on par for a singleton,

I think I need another 5970 to really see the difference ;)

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/8x124.jpg

[douglatins]

CPU-Z is reading it as dual channel, yet the ram specs are triple, strange.

they only run e channel in same color slots, so you have the 3rd one in between the others

[Dio]

they only run e channel in same color slots, so you have the 3rd one in between the others

That sucks, then again this was my first build :p --Would games be faster if I only had 4gb triple channel vs 6gb dual channel?



WOW I admire the power those gpu's have :eek:

Here's mine at the same settings as you, but I clocked up the gpu and cpu.... its about on par for a singleton,

I think I need another 5970 to really see the difference ;)

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/8x124.jpg

I OC'd by 20 more Mem clock, results:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/GPU results571.png

here are my temps and clocks: (add 20 to that 1020 it was 1040)

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/GPU temps.png

[fullinfusion]

That sucks, then again this was my first build :p --Would games be faster if I only had 4gb triple channel vs 6gb dual channel?





I OC'd by 20 more Mem clock, results:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/GPU results571.png

here are my temps and clocks: (add 20 to that 1020 it was 1040)

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/GPU temps.png
Im running 1250 memory clocks. Bump it man!

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/1250.jpg

You need to drop the gpu's core clocks down if your going to run the memory so low and get a better score.... 850/1100 is the bare min I run for any increase in scores.

[Dio]

WOW I admire the power those gpu's have :eek:

Here's mine at the same settings as you, but I clocked up the gpu and cpu.... its about on par for a singleton,

I think I need another 5970 to really see the difference ;)

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/8x124.jpg

Im running 1250 memory clocks. Bump it man!

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/1250.jpg

You need to drop the gpu's core clocks down if your going to run the memory so low and get a better score.... 850/1100 is the bare min I run for any increase in scores.

Should I run it at 1250? the max is 1300 I dont want to kill the cards, or if not give me core/mem clocks to run.

[fullinfusion]

Should I run it at 1250? the max is 1300 I dont want to kill the cards, or if not give me core/mem clocks to run.
im just using Red Line for voltage controll and the CCC for the clocks.... I was looking at past clocks and I had the core.... well look at the pic....

I maxed out the sliders in Red Line for this run.. temp was fine also :pimp:

Why do you say 1300mHz is the max? I can see 1500mHz as the max in the CCC bro!

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/bestyettttttttt.jpg

When I get my Nvidia gpu back from a bro for a bios flash back up card... Im lagging on the clocks atm

[erocker]

Why do you say 1300mHz is the max? I can see 1500mHz as the max in the CCC bro!


Constant artifacts and possible damage to your memory is totaly worth it.:rolleyes: :laugh:

[douglatins]

That sucks, then again this was my first build :p --Would games be faster if I only had 4gb triple channel vs 6gb dual channel?





I OC'd by 20 more Mem clock, results:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/GPU results571.png

here are my temps and clocks: (add 20 to that 1020 it was 1040)

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/GPU temps.png

You should use another PCI pronto, space the cards between, those temps worry me too much!

[fullinfusion]

Constant artifacts and possible damage to your memory is totaly worth it.:rolleyes: :laugh:
I just ran this at over 1300MhZ memory E,

Temp is no problem on air lol

And artifacts? none that I've seen.

This Gpu is seasoned now and wouldn't even have come close to the clocks when new! :eek:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/rl.jpg

[crazyeyesreaper]

remember if memory clocks are to high the memory has error correction so u wont see artifacts u will just see performance get worse

[fullinfusion]

Thank's CrazyEye.

I hear ya.

I ran GPUz in the back ground and the mem hit a high of 60c for this Vantage run. :cool:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100819/yeah.jpg

Just had a lightning strike and lost power for 3seconds.... Thank god for the UPS Back-up :p

[Dio]

Nvm, problem solved.

[Lionheart]

Woooooooo finally got a HD5970 from gigabyte (thanx Randomflip:rockout:) may I join the club again bro's:toast:

[Black Panther]

Welcome back lol :toast:

[mdsx1950]

Woooooooo finally got a HD5970 from gigabyte (thanx Randomflip:rockout:) may I join the club again bro's:toast:

Yaaayy :p :toast: lol

Welcome to the club.! What happened to the GTX 480s? :D

[Lionheart]

Welcome back lol :toast:

Cheers bro, good to be back:toast:

Yaaayy :p :toast: lol

Welcome to the club.! What happened to the GTX 480s? :D

Thanx man, I sent it back because it sucked lol, nah my GTX 480 was way too hot bro, sumthing wasn't right with it so I sent it back 2day:rockout: and I should get a refund Woooo!!!
this beast should hold me over until the HD6970's are out lol:laugh::toast::rockout:

[mdsx1950]

Thanx man, I sent it back because it sucked lol, nah my GTX 480 was way too hot bro, sumthing wasn't right with it so I sent it back 2day:rockout: and I should get a refund Woooo!!!
this beast should hold me over until the HD6970's are out lol:laugh::toast::rockout:

Your getting a refund? Thats cool. :cool:

I'll probably be upgrading when the HD 6870s come out (4 of them :pimp:). I can't wait till they release the HD6970, but will surely switch to that.:laugh: I wish that we will be able to put around 6 GPUs by that time in Hexafire :D :p And maybe a GTX 485 for Physx and CUDA. LOL :D

[random]

Cheers bro, good to be back:toast:



Thanx man, I sent it back because it sucked lol, nah my GTX 480 was way too hot bro, sumthing wasn't right with it so I sent it back 2day:rockout: and I should get a refund Woooo!!!
this beast should hold me over until the HD6970's are out lol:laugh::toast::rockout:

LOL this guy named CHAOS KILLA met up with me today and took my 5970... HMMM..... :laugh::nutkick:

[mdsx1950]

LOL this guy named CHAOS KILLA met up with me today and took my 5970... HMMM..... :laugh::nutkick:

LoL :laugh:

Why'd you give away the HD 5970? Too much power for you? xD :p

[random]

LoL :laugh:

Why'd you give away the HD 5970? Too much power for you? xD :p

LOL, its the fact it wasn't enough ;). I won't have time later to do some selling for the 6970 so I thought I'd do it now :rockout:

[mdsx1950]

LOL, its the fact it wasn't enough ;).

:laugh: High-five to that! :toast: It will never be enough until it can play any game maxed out at 2560x1600 at more than 100FPS :p

I won't have time later to do some selling for the 6970 so I thought I'd do it now :rockout:

Oh ok. :cool: Since i'm having the 4GB editions, it's got some good resell value. :D So hopefully the cards will be there in my rig till the HD 6000 series is out. :rockout:

[Omega219]

Hello to all...I just received my XFX 5970 last week and built my first system this past weekend. I have had problems every time I run a 3D game. It would either freeze and go completely black and stay there till the system was reset or it will freeze, keep the audio running, go back to my desktop and then back into the game. The 2nd issue would continue to happen until the screen went completely black. I have read through a good portion of this thread and tried some of the fixes listed; unfortunately it is still not working properly. Mainly I tried changing drivers, however I was not aware that I may not have been completely removing them, based upon the process that a number of people have spoke of. Any help would be very much appreciated. I am also new to the forums, so i may need some guidance on the proper procedures of posting and replying. Thanks again

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

Hello to all...I just received my XFX 5970 last week and built my first system this past weekend. I have had problems every time I run a 3D game. It would either freeze and go completely black and stay there till the system was reset or it will freeze, keep the audio running, go back to my desktop and then back into the game. The 2nd issue would continue to happen until the screen went completely black. I have read through a good portion of this thread and tried some of the fixes listed; unfortunately it is still not working properly. Mainly I tried changing drivers, however I was not aware that I may not have been completely removing them, based upon the process that a number of people have spoke of. Any help would be very much appreciated. I am also new to the forums, so i may need some guidance on the proper procedures of posting and replying. Thanks again

If you just want to remove drivers, download and install "driver sweaper" run it, remove ATI files and follow the default process and directed in the software. I'm not convinced this is a driver issue... but I've been wrong before. =

I would recommend you check all of you physical connections in the system starting with the power system. Sounds like your card is crashing and that can be caused by lack of power (loose cables or bad power supply) or the card is failing to run the default clocks on the GPU.

Disconnect the main system power.

Start with the 5970's physical conncection to the motherboard. Make sure it's properly (fully) seated in the slot and not hanging excessively under it's own weight. (a small stick or pencil can help keep the card level)

Make sure all necessary power connections are filled in the 5970. If a connector takes 8 pins.. give it 8 pins. :o

Make sure all connections in the modular power supply are fully inserted in the unit and that all connections are secure/tight. (for extra points try.. different outputs in the power supply for the 5970)

Once you check all this boot the system and download GPUz. Install/Run GPUz and open the monitoring tab. Enable the "refresh in background" option and load a game.

Let us know what happens.

[Omega219]

If you just want to remove drivers, download and install "driver sweaper" run it, remove ATI files and follow the default process and directed in the software. I'm not convinced this is a driver issue... but I've been wrong before. =

I would recommend you check all of you physical connections in the system starting with the power system. Sounds like your card is crashing and that can be caused by lack of power (loose cables or bad power supply) or the card is failing to run the default clocks on the GPU.

Disconnect the main system power.

Start with the 5970's physical conncection to the motherboard. Make sure it's properly (fully) seated in the slot and not hanging excessively under it's own weight. (a small stick or pencil can help keep the card level)

Make sure all necessary power connections are filled in the 5970. If a connector takes 8 pins.. give it 8 pins. :o

Make sure all connections in the modular power supply are fully inserted in the unit and that all connections are secure/tight. (for extra points try.. different outputs in the power supply for the 5970)

Once you check all this boot the system and download GPUz. Install/Run GPUz and open the monitoring tab. Enable the "refresh in background" option and load a game.

Let us know what happens.

Will do...someone also suggested that it may have something to do with my RAM that it may not be set to the right voltage or the timing may be off. I know I have to change those settings in the BIOS, but i'm not quite sure if I should be changing them to the exact values the RAM says, i.e. 1.65V and 8-8-8-24, or if there is a range that I should be looking at. Thanks for the suggestion.

[fullinfusion]

t_ski recommended I post a link for all the 5970 owners to check out. ;)


you can find it HERE (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=130736)

[t_ski]

That's about a BIOS update fixing issues with the GSOD, cold bugs, etc. I tried it myself and it seems to be working great so far! :respect:

[fullinfusion]

Its getting cold here at night now and even leaving my window open all night to drop the temps down for testing in the morning *the cold bug* problem for me has vanished. I checked the temp before starting up the rig and its normally 8-10c ambient.

[grunt_408]

Thanks for the info fullinfusion. I will try the waterblock one when I finally get my block mounted :D

[fullinfusion]

Thanks for the info fullinfusion. I will try the waterblock one when I finally get my block mounted :D
NP, just keep us up to date on your success :rockout:

oh your going to flash to the higher clocked version?

[grunt_408]

Yeah why not? :P

[fullinfusion]

Yeah why not? :P
Oh I was just curious thats all. Simon put together a good bios setting so it should be all good.

Heck I run 1000mhz core 1300mhz mem and max out at 71c on air under full load, fan@70%

[grunt_408]

I figure with the water block on there i should be safe to O/C the card. And NASA can have the fan back.

[fullinfusion]

I figure with the water block on there i should be safe to O/C the card. And NASA can have the fan back.
lol, I hear that.
Id like to know if others in the club have installed the new bios yet?

[t_ski]

The new BIOS fullinfusion poasted is working well for me. No artifacts this morning as I powered up the rig and GPU's are idling at 27-28C.

Anyone else who was having artifacts or GSODs really needs to try this out!

[grunt_408]

The new BIOS fullinfusion poasted is working well for me. No artifacts this morning as I powered up the rig and GPU's are idling at 27-28C.

Anyone else who was having artifacts or GSODs really needs to try this out!

I have not flashed a VGA BIOS for a long time and a first time dual GPU owner. What Bios should I use for my HIS 5970 ? I am running the 10.9's From HIS site ans still cant run DX11 games for more than 5 minutes. I can run Unigine Bench though.


http://img.techpowerup.org/100922/Unigine bench.jpg

[t_ski]

If you read through the entire thread that fullinfusioned linked to, there's a comment in there that says an HIS card uses the same vendor ID as a PowerColor card. I used the BIOS that had the PowerColor ID to flash my HIS and it worked fine, but in GPUz it shows up as a Sapphire card, so I'm not sure how accurate it was.

Just make sure you use atiflash -i to identify which GPU is master and slave, and back up your original BIOS files in case you need to reflash. That said, even with having two 5970's in the system at the same time, I was able to use this and figure out which was which and flash them all successfully.

For the game crashing, by any chance to you have a cound card you could add in and test? I have a theory that the crashes I see in Dirt 2 are related to using onboard sound: perhaps it may be your issue as well.

[grunt_408]

If you read through the entire thread that fullinfusioned linked to, there's a comment in there that says an HIS card uses the same vendor ID as a PowerColor card. I used the BIOS that had the PowerColor ID to flash my HIS and it worked fine, but in GPUz it shows up as a Sapphire card, so I'm not sure how accurate it was.

Just make sure you use atiflash -i to identify which GPU is master and slave, and back up your original BIOS files in case you need to reflash. That said, even with having two 5970's in the system at the same time, I was able to use this and figure out which was which and flash them all successfully.

For the game crashing, by any chance to you have a cound card you could add in and test? I have a theory that the crashes I see in Dirt 2 are related to using onboard sound: perhaps it may be your issue as well.

I flashed to the Sapphire O/C all went well. I am in actual fact using onboard and have in the back of mind thought it could be related to that. I do have a X-Fi in my desk draw. Must give it a go. See if that resolves any issues as the new Bios has not changed it. @ fullinfusion +REP :D

After flashing I wrote these down
Old Bios/ 012.020.000.028.037492
New Bios/ 012.020.000.014.000000

EDIT: Getting rid of the onboard did not fix it. Still getting crashes. I am dissapointed as up untill it crashes everything is good. Framerates are high everything looks really good and then it will freeze. Crysis will not start in Full screen. Do the old Alt/Enter trick to go to Full screen and it is all green you can still se the game but it is like looking through matrix coloured glasses. Meh Hope the next set of Cats are better for me. Could it be my Direct X ? I am running the latest.

[t_ski]

Thanks for trying the X-Fi. I can't say for sure it's the same issue for me (crashes). Dirt 2 crashes randomly, but it sounds like (from the searching I've done so far) that the game is very buggy and it's not just me. The only other games I've played so far are TF2 and NFS: Shift. Have not reinstalled Crysis yet.

[Black Panther]

Hey guys, what would you think if I were to couple up my 5970 with a 2560x1400 monitor?

Wise choice or should I keep my current 1680x1050 and upgrade processor, mobo & ram?

[t_ski]

Really depends on what you do with it. For gaming, you'd probably be better off upgrading the motherboard, CPU and ram. For photoshop, etc, You might benefit from the extra real estate the bigger monitor can provide.

I assume you are talking about the E8400/Asus system?

[grunt_408]

Thanks for trying the X-Fi. I can't say for sure it's the same issue for me (crashes). Dirt 2 crashes randomly, but it sounds like (from the searching I've done so far) that the game is very buggy and it's not just me. The only other games I've played so far are TF2 and NFS: Shift. Have not reinstalled Crysis yet.

Never had so much trouble with a Video card. :( Very sad considering the amount of money I paid for it. But not being able to use it properly is very frustrating.

[fullinfusion]

Never had so much trouble with a Video card. :( Very sad considering the amount of money I paid for it. But not being able to use it properly is very frustrating.
Craigleberry, have you gave the 10.4 ccc a go with the new bios? I have never had any problems playing DX11.. I myself cant fully remove the 10.9 ccc to re-install the 10.4 but all works good here except I get a tiny lag playing GOW... that is the only game giving me the shits atm using the 10.9's

I have a SSD coming the 1st of the week and going to do a clean install with the 10.4 lol..

[fullinfusion]

I flashed to the Sapphire O/C all went well. I am in actual fact using onboard and have in the back of mind thought it could be related to that. I do have a X-Fi in my desk draw. Must give it a go. See if that resolves any issues as the new Bios has not changed it. @ fullinfusion +REP :D

After flashing I wrote these down
Old Bios/ 012.020.000.028.037492
New Bios/ 012.020.000.014.000000

EDIT: Getting rid of the onboard did not fix it. Still getting crashes. I am dissapointed as up untill it crashes everything is good. Framerates are high everything looks really good and then it will freeze. Crysis will not start in Full screen. Do the old Alt/Enter trick to go to Full screen and it is all green you can still se the game but it is like looking through matrix coloured glasses. Meh Hope the next set of Cats are better for me. Could it be my Direct X ? I am running the latest.

Dude try flashing to the normal Bios and not the overclocked bios, after that just try the games and see if it crashes on ya. I bet it wont! I installed the normal new Sapphire Bios and just use CCC to clock my card. It works fine for me going that route. ;)

[grunt_408]

Dude try flashing to the normal Bios and not the overclocked bios, after that just try the games and see if it crashes on ya. I bet it wont! I installed the normal new Sapphire Bios and just use CCC to clock my card. It works fine for me going that route. ;)

I never had too many bad problems with crashes untill I tried 10.9 drivers. Before then all was ok. I am fitting a waterblock shortly and will be using the O/C bios. I too think it is time for a fresh instal as I think my problems are Directx related.

[fullinfusion]

I never had too many bad problems with crashes untill I tried 10.9 drivers. Before then all was ok. I am fitting a waterblock shortly and will be using the O/C bios. I too think it is time for a fresh instal as I think my problems are Directx related.
Yeah when in doubt a clean install is what normally works. I migrated from Vista to W7 and now have the 10.4 cat's back on and the temps are low again over the 10.9's

[DRDNA]

Hey folks whats going on with the low ratings on the HIS model of the 5970? Is the HIS inferior? maybe thats why its $100 cheaper on the egg?

[t_ski]

Probably just a deal from a different manufacturer. I have an HIS and have not had any troubles with it since the BIOS update, which cured the issues I was having before.

[Chicken Patty]

Probably just a deal from a different manufacturer. I have an HIS and have not had any troubles with it since the BIOS update, which cured the issues I was having before.

It's $519 after rebate on Newegg, that's just awesome! :rockout:

[Sargentchimera]

Hey, I'm new here and I have 2 5970s. I have a bit of an overheating problem. I bought my computer from Alienware (go ahead and make fun of me :ohwell: ) and it is very nice but the cards jsut get TOO hot! My top card, in games like Crysis, will reach as high as 100c and my bottum card usually never goes over 70c. Yesterday my top cards fan broke, overheated, then shut down my PC!! Now it sounds like a motor cycle and I have to keep teh case fan at 80%, which is very noisy... I am getting a replacement card through alienware so that is not a problem but I want to prevent this problem from happening agian. It seems my case does not cool the cards enough (http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2009/09/500x_AlienwareArea51ALX.jpg my chassis) I have liquid cooling for the CPU but not the GPUs and I am wondering if there is a way to cool the cards better even though they are stacked very tightly.
Is there a liquid cooling colution compatible with my case? Or is there anything I can do air wise?
Thanks for ANY help!!!!

[t_ski]

Custom watercooling should fit and would cool the best.

[Sargentchimera]

Where can I get a custom watercooling job done? Do any big retail places do it or do I have to go to a specialty shop?

[Chicken Patty]

Where can I get a custom watercooling job done? Do any big retail places do it or do I have to go to a specialty shop?

ummmm, I don't think any place really does that. I think Tiger Direct and stuff sell watercooled cases already but that's about it. You'll have to do it yourself.

[mdsx1950]

Where can I get a custom watercooling job done? Do any big retail places do it or do I have to go to a specialty shop?

I'm sure some of the members here at TPU can do a custom watercooling job for you. But ofcourse it will come with a price. :D

[t_ski]

We could suggest some parts, but you would need to buy and assemble. Of course, we could answer other questions about the setup, too.

[fullinfusion]

Im loving this bios more and more lol... for those that haven't seen my new clocks take a look!

And this is on Air. . . 69% fan speed @68c

http://img.techpowerup.org/101001/32101903.jpg

[Chicken Patty]

Nice clocking Brad. :toast:

[grunt_408]

Nice clocks for sure. I am stuck waiting for someone to post me my X58 waterblock and tube. Should have been here a week ago and now I am starting to wish I had bought it new. I cant see the sense in pulling down my current loop just to add the gpu when I plan to add the chipset too. It is frustrating the hell out of me I want a silent card.

[Lubna]

Nice Pc You have fullinfusion
Receive my best regards

[t_ski]

Im loving this bios more and more lol... for those that haven't seen my new clocks take a look!

And this is on Air. . . 69% fan speed @68c

http://img.techpowerup.org/101001/32101903.jpg

What voltage did you use to get the GPU that speed?

[douglatins]

What voltage did you use to get the GPU that speed?

Bios dont make cards colder, you just have some great ambients.
The 5970 is a great card OMG almost fell bad about selling, but the 480 is enough for me and then i can wait for a 6970

[fullinfusion]

What voltage did you use to get the GPU that speed?
shit I cant tell ya atm, Im in the middle of getting the programs onto the ssd. I'll edit the post when I'm done.

[Lionheart]

Im loving this bios more and more lol... for those that haven't seen my new clocks take a look!

And this is on Air. . . 69% fan speed @68c

http://img.techpowerup.org/101001/32101903.jpg

Those are crazy awesome overclocks, very nice:toast::toast:

On another note, I can't be apart of this club anymore as I have regretfully again:rolleyes: sold my HD5970 (for a good price too:rockout:) and I am awaiting the AMD HD6xxx series to launch and see what these beasts are made out of:respect::rockout:

I will miss the beast:cry::cry: but I am welcoming a new one:laugh::toast: PEACE!!!:rockout::pimp:

[t_ski]

shit I cant tell ya atm, Im in the middle of getting the programs onto the ssd. I'll edit the post when I'm done.

Don't forget. I'm very curious :D

[fullinfusion]

Don't forget. I'm very curious :D
Tonight I will show the voltages I ran. You all need to bare with me as I went to SSD and forgot to back up my recent data. Any ways just let me get the rest of the programs installed and then I can tell you what volts i ran.

[fullinfusion]

Ok I used Sapphire overvoltage program to set just the memory to 1.15v
Next I used MSI Afterburner to set the core voltage to 1.250v and to set the Frequency of both memory and core clocks. Funny how I set the core to 1050mhZ but yet CCC shows 1000mhz. I think once I can find a way to unlock CCC limit I should be able to up the core.

I'm going to try and replicate my marks later on tonight once I get the PissX card back in and all the other crap installed. Sorry but this SSD shit is way over my head, what to turn off, what to turn on... how to see if trim is working...

Oh speaking about trim T-ski , how long does it take for trim to work or optimize?

[t_ski]

Depends on the amount of garbage, I guess. Few hours maybe?

Look for SSD tweaker (or optimizer). I'm at work, or else I'd tell you what it was for sure :p

[fullinfusion]

Depends on the amount of garbage, I guess. Few hours maybe?

Look for SSD tweaker (or optimizer). I'm at work, or else I'd tell you what it was for sure :p
You don't work, except for TPU lol! It's SSD tweaker I believe and seen it but wasn't sure what to check and un-check. Maybe when ya get home you can help me on that?

for the hell of it I ran Auslogics defrager and just did the scan... It says 13% for defragin... will trim lower it when I check later?

[fullinfusion]

T-ski what clocks you been able to get on the new Bios?

I was able to hit on a good day, I mean real GOOD day 940mhZ core, and that was iffy if it would hold even at the same voltage or even higher for back to back benches using the old Bios.

[t_ski]

You don't work, except for TPU lol! It's SSD tweaker I believe and seen it but wasn't sure what to check and un-check. Maybe when ya get home you can help me on that?

Yes, SSD Tweaker, and I chose the Auto Config setting.

for the hell of it I ran Auslogics defrager and just did the scan... It says 13% for defragin... will trim lower it when I check later?

I have not heard of Auslogics, but garbage collection is not the same as defragging. Defrag cleans up the files, where TRIM removes the orphaned bits of data. Deleting a file does not delete the file, just the pointer to the file in the "file allocation table" (or whatever it's called these days...).

T-ski what clocks you been able to get on the new Bios?

I was able to hit on a good day, I mean real GOOD day 940mhZ core, and that was iffy if it would hold even at the same voltage or even higher for back to back benches using the old Bios.

Old BIOS was 940/1300. New BIOS has not been tested - waiting for you to give me something to shoot for :toast:

Notice the multiquote? ;)

[fullinfusion]

Yes, SSD Tweaker, and I chose the Auto Config setting.



I have not heard of Auslogics, but garbage collection is not the same as defragging. Defrag cleans up the files, where TRIM removes the orphaned bits of data. Deleting a file does not delete the file, just the pointer to the file in the "file allocation table" (or whatever it's called these days...).



Old BIOS was 940/1300. New BIOS has not been tested - waiting for you to give me something to shoot for :toast:

Notice the multiquote? ;)
Yeah multi quote lol, It's something Im working on.

With this new bios using a fan, It runs 2-3c higher so Im thinking under H20 It heats things up enough to not cause a problem with low temps.

Shoot for my said above core volts and 1000Mhz core and 1300Mhz mem to start. It should work Ski. Remember I'm fan cooled and hit low 70's under those clocks with fan at a odd number of 79-89 speed.... I run the high clocks and with the fan @ 100 % the Gpu always fails, but... running a odd high number speed gives me the nice clocks... Mabey its voltage robbing the core of what it want's, who knows. :twitch:

[t_ski]

I'll see what I can do this weekend

[Vellari]

Ordered another 5970 today (the local dealer sliced about 70e off the price I paid for the first one not so long ago), should arrive next monday/tuesday. Obviously I will post new scores once installed and stability tested.

[NerY]

Sorry to interrupt the topic. But I don't know where to ask for help. After installing my new system I can't play games anymore (specially BC2, but also freezes in CS 1.6). I first thought it was the motherboard BIOS, so I updated it to the latest BIOS. Then, unfortunately I started thinking it was my video card.

I've installed all the latest drivers, I've done everything I read over the internet, such things as setting the fan to manual at 50%, disabling/enabling A.I. and nothing worked. I opened a support ticket at sapphire website, and they provided me the "latest" video card bios.

The vBIOS that came with my 5970 was 012.020.000.028.037492 and the vBIOS Sapphire gave me is 012.020.000.014. Isn't my old vBIOS newer than the vBios they provided me?! They say no.

80% of times I play BC2 my computer completely freeze and the only thing to do is to push the reset button, and after the reset the Windows won't load and I'll have to push the reset button again, and after the second reset I'll have to restore the Windows.

Anybody has a clue in what is going on? I really don't want to RMA the card, cause I bought it while travelling in the USA and I'm from Brazil, it will be a "battle" with brazilian tax to RMA it.

I really appreciate any help, and sorry about my spelling.

Thanks

Oh, here is my computer specs.
ASUS Formula IV
HD 5970 Sapphire
8GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600
Corsair TX 850 Watts PSU
AMD Phenom II x6 1090T
Windows 7 64-bit

[t_ski]

You can try to update the latest BIOS. Start here:

Sapphire 5970 owners *all is fixed* (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=130736)

[NerY]

Well, I'll try with his BIOS, cause I've tried with the BIOS Sapphire gave me without success :/

[fullinfusion]

Weird to say the least, I run the same hardware as well and I have no problems at all. Do you over clock your cpu? Im thinking there is a setting throwing things off. can you take a picture of the bios settings so we can look and see if somethings off?

[NerY]

Thanks for helping mate. I'm at work right now, When I get to home I'll send the pictures right away. Just you to know in advance, I haven't overclocked anything, I'm not into it, I'be just set the memory to 1600 and the timings to 8-8-8-24 as it say on the memory box. That's the only change I've made in the motherboard. But I'll take the pictures and post it here.

Thanks

[fullinfusion]

Thanks for helping mate. I'm at work right now, When I get to home I'll send the pictures right away. Just you to know in advance, I haven't overclocked anything, I'm not into it, I'be just set the memory to 1600 and the timings to 8-8-8-24 as it say on the memory box. That's the only change I've made in the motherboard. But I'll take the pictures and post it here.

Thanks
Thanks for that, hey your going to need to set some voltages up manually and configure a few other settings.. I'm thinking we can get ya figured out, well hoping too lol ;)

I'll post my bios settings of stock for you to reference for stock settings ok. Let me know how things pan out. Oh what Driver you using for the 5970? 10.9?

[fullinfusion]

This is my stock settings with voltages. The memory is different then yours so run them stock for now.
Set your cpu bus frequency to 200mhz
http://img.techpowerup.org/101008/DSC00330.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/101008/DSC00332.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/101008/DSC00333.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/101008/DSC00334.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/101008/DSC00335.jpg

[t_ski]

I'be just set the memory to 1600 and the timings to 8-8-8-24 as it say on the memory box. That's the only change I've made in the motherboard.

Thanks for that, hey your going to need to set some voltages up manually and configure a few other settings.

Agreed with Fullinfusion. More than likely the ram will need extra volts over JEDEC specs to run those timings.

[NerY]

Doing the config. right now, before I change the setting I'll take pictures and post here.

Here we go. I didn't know where/how post images directly here, so I hosted it in another website. Those are the actual configurations of my motherboard BIOS. Should I change for the one you posted??
Yes, I'm using Catalyst 10.9

http://img207.imageshack.us/i/p9210002.jpg/

http://img832.imageshack.us/i/p9210003.jpg/

http://img510.imageshack.us/i/p9210004.jpg/

http://img819.imageshack.us/i/p9210005v.jpg/

http://img840.imageshack.us/i/p9210006.jpg/

[fullinfusion]

What bios is that? Im using the 1005 version and it clocks real well. Just let us know how things work out for ya.

[NerY]

What bios is that? Im using the 1005 version and it clocks real well. Just let us know how things work out for ya.

The bios is 1102, the latest one. I was with 1005 and I first thought it was the motherboard bios, so I updated it.

I've changed my settings, I set it the same as in yours, except the memory clocks, it still on 8-8-8-24 1.65V

[fullinfusion]

The bios is 1102, the latest one. I was with 1005 and I first thought it was the motherboard bios, so I updated it.

I've changed my settings, I set it the same as in yours, except the memory clocks, it still on 8-8-8-24 1.65V
Do you have Cpuid? to show you what all the timings should be running? you need to download it and click on the SPD tab on the top. There your going to see JEDEC #4 , there you can see what the TRC should be set at and go into your bios and set it to that number. So hows things working so far at the settings I provided you?

[NerY]

Well, it's quite frustrating but it really seems to be a faulty graphic card. I'll do the final tests such as changing my system to win XP to check if it's not win 7 x64 problems. After the changes in the BIOS I still get freezes while trying to/playing 3D games as BC2 or WoW or any other. I'm starting to think about RMA the card.

We pay U$ 650 in damn graphic card and what we receive?! A faulty one. And as far as I can see, many players are having the same issue and RMA the card.

If there's anything I can try, please let me know :(

Thanks for the help so far.

[mtosev]

Can i join?:P

[JD15]

Add me to the list please.

[mtosev]

someone is lazy,lol

[sttubs]

Send Black Panther a PM about adding you guys. :toast:

[Black Panther]

I hope I've added everyone. I kinda abandoned this club these past couple months since I wasn't at home so not enjoying the 5970... Within 2 weeks at the most, I'll be back at home and on the desktop, hopefully also with a Dell U2711 for the 5970 to play with :D

[Vellari]

Received and installed the "sibling". I'll post some benchmarks and scores over the weekend as I'll have time to mess&tweak the system.

http://jrtihw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pOAYz5_L9ALpfG5kovp-kTbQoTuwDubabjZIKsLzWRllLMtQcbFIpatHsIWXTh7enMnxuw O-H-lcoSXDStxMU3PpRgUin8kyg/case_inside.jpg?psid=1

PS. @BlackPanther: Not sure if I am on the list atm, but even if I'm already there I should be updated as "two cards"

[mtosev]

i hope i've added everyone. I kinda abandoned this club these past couple months since i wasn't at home so not enjoying the 5970... Within 2 weeks at the most, i'll be back at home and on the desktop, hopefully also with a dell u2711 for the 5970 to play with :d

np:)

[fullinfusion]

Received and installed the "sibling". I'll post some benchmarks and scores over the weekend as I'll have time to mess&tweak the system.

http://jrtihw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pOAYz5_L9ALpfG5kovp-kTbQoTuwDubabjZIKsLzWRllLMtQcbFIpatHsIWXTh7enMnxuw O-H-lcoSXDStxMU3PpRgUin8kyg/case_inside.jpg?psid=1

PS. @BlackPanther: Not sure if I am on the list atm, but even if I'm already there I should be updated as "two cards"
Nice set up :toast: I hope you leave the side off the case for cool air!

[obscura]

Sign me up! 24/7 OC stable as a mountain,
modded case Fractal Design R3 to accomodate the 5970, (this week actually, sorry for the fan cable mess ;)
amazing what you can do with 40$ worth of power tools from Home Depot ;)

Current wishlist;
new mobo with space for 2nd 5970 and some insane-yefinity
over 1k watt PSU M-O-D-U-L-A-R!!


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9017/30735295.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/30735295.jpg/)

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[Black Panther]

Added new members. It's awesome how many people are getting the 5970 and even two of these babies!

@ vellari and obscura, I love your hardware - it also makes me feel comfortable knowing that it's not only me who feels lost in cable management :laugh:

jk

In my instance though a new case is in the plans. My 5970 literally goes a bit into the hdd cage, I had to bend the cage to get it to fit....:o I have a photo somewhere in the ghetto mods thread, if I find it I'll repost it here for lulz sake.



Edit:
Here's what I did to get the 5970 inside my case... this is embarrasing lol

See the bent hdd cage below, I bent it quite a lot because the 5970 wouldn't fit from its width.
But that way I got the card to fit in my case, by putting a good half-inch or so of it inside the hard disk cage..
http://img.techpowerup.org/100221/mymod.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/100424/P1020_24-04-10.jpg


And then I painted the hdd cage black, so it looks much neater but... oh well... (this is even more embarrassing!)

http://img.techpowerup.org/100424/P1200_24-04-10.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/100424/P1505_24-04-10.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/100424/P1503_24-04-10.jpg


This case served me 3+ years now it's time for a new house better fitting a 5970 :D So far I'm looking at the Obsidian 800D. It looks neat.

[obscura]

Here's what I did to my HDD cage :toast: cant believe they actually make cases for 8+ harddrives for miditowers..full towers another story.. Figured i had to buy SSD so i thought i would free up a 3,5 inch drive by going with the OCZ Revodrive PCI-E instead of 2,5 inch SSD. well..now my mobo cant take anymore pci-e 4+ or above (for crossfire) since the fan-monster on the 5970 takes up the next spot as well :p

anyone installed the EC waterblock on this card? Any reduction in width and space taken by the card?
either this or i'd need new mobo..

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7884/p1040511d.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/i/p1040511d.jpg/)

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p.s. Oh yeah..i liked you painting the "banged" up HDD cage black.. to cover up the crime ;D looks nice from the outside

[t_ski]

anyone installed the EC waterblock on this card?

Not sure which waterblock you mean by "EC," but I have an EK waterblock on mine and don't have any issues with it.

[grunt_408]

I am still planning to fit my XSPC block too :P . Maybe soon.

[obscura]

Not sure which waterblock you mean by "EC," but I have an EK waterblock on mine and don't have any issues with it.

I meant the EK waterblock yeah :) , how big/fat is it compared to the stock fan? Do you remember if it covered up the adjacent pci-e slot?

[t_ski]

It is thinner than the stock fan, but still probably takes up the next slot:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100302/P1100222a.jpg

[fullinfusion]

It is thinner than the stock fan, but still probably takes up the next slot:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100302/P1100222a.jpg

Love the cooling hardware t_ski...:respect:

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

My 5970 refuses to scale properly and generally perform well in any game since catalyst 10.4a. Its the most annoying thing ever since I occasionally read forum comments such as "this Cat10.X driver finally works well with my 5870".

When I install the new drivers I run DriverSweeper > reboot safe mode> clean registry > reboot > install > get discouraged > easily reinstall 10.4a > profit.

With 10.10 I decided to install over 10.4a and my system bsod' continually until I booted safe mode to run driver sweeper.

Furmark and Heaven 2.0 will still scale @ 90% on usage on each GPU.

Usually when I install a driver on a crossfire system the monitor will flash black with an _ cursor for a second after install... I believe this means crossfire is working and initialized. My screen never initializes on any driver newer than 10.4a.


Any idea?