Is Java weird or is it me?

[<<Onafets>>]

Ok so I think i have finally digested all I need to know about VB .net and have started Java:)

But i was wondering if i could have a user interface like i can in vb with buttons and such, i just started it and i don't really have any online use for it.

[Solaris17]

eclipse is the program your asking for.

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/

[<<Onafets>>]

Thanks! This will help tonnes! Is C# fairly similar to Java?

[Solaris17]

well their both object based languages. give this a quick read.

http://www.25hoursaday.com/CsharpVsJava.html#object

that should help you quick grasp java if your already proficient in C#

[T3RM1N4L D0GM4]

Eclipse is a great IDE, and you can give a try to Netbeans ( http://netbeans.org/ ) as another Java/C/php/whatelse.

Both of them are very powerful.

Have fun

[robn]

Thanks! This will help tonnes! Is C# fairly similar to Java?

Very very similar to C# - Microsoft pays licence fees to Sun/Oracle for much of the design.

If you want to do VB style drag-drop creation of windows, buttons, etc. look up "Swing" user interface builder, NetBeans certainly features this, and I'm sure Eclipse too. Swing is the standard technology for desktop forms.

[T3RM1N4L D0GM4]

Using either Netbeans and Eclipse, Netbeans seems more powerful for GUI design... obviously imho

[Assimilator]

Thanks! This will help tonnes! Is C# fairly similar to Java?

C# is like Java, only better.

Very very similar to C# - Microsoft pays licence fees to Sun/Oracle for much of the design.

No they don't.

[robn]

...No they don't.

You are right, I was misinformed :ohwell:

Gosling and co. have criticised C# for imitating Java, and Microsoft was involved in licensing Sun's JVM and Java, but not with respect to C#. Probably where the confusion comes from.

[<<Onafets>>]

Gonna give net-beans a try when i get home, looks interesting from what I've read.

[Kreij]

I worked in Netbeans for awhile, but I am so spoiled by the VS IDE that it was just not the same. lol

[<<Onafets>>]

I worked in Netbeans for awhile, but I am so spoiled by the VS IDE that it was just not the same. lol

That's what i was afraid was going to happen, now i regret not going with C# :[ Oh well i guess its next on the list of languages in between F# and C++ :laugh:

[Kreij]

So learn both at the same time. If you've got the concepts down all it is, is syntactical differences and different names for the API methods. (shrug)

[<<Onafets>>]

I's struggling with Java Tbh it just seems illogical compared to VB .net, and i have no use for it what so ever :[ Thinking of learning F# instead

[Kreij]

Why learn F#? Just for the fun of it? Any need for it?

VB and C# are so close that one could almost say the only difference between the two is the parsers for the compilers.

[<<Onafets>>]

But parsers ya mean {} right, oh and F# is just to be original really, not many people bother to learn it.

[FordGT90Concept]

About the only thing C# and Java have in common is similar syntax but in areas where it counts (delegates, code base, and binaries), they are completely different. VB and C# are the opposite: everything in common except syntax.

F# is a functional language--doesn't make any sense to me but that's probably just because of the way I process information mentally (I think in terms of objects).

[Kreij]

But parsers ya mean {} right, oh and F# is just to be original really, not many people bother to learn it.

By parsers I mean ...

C# .... MyMethod (int MyParameter)
VB .... MyMethod (MyParameter as int)

IMO, if you want to be original and stand out, write original code. W1zz stands out for writing GPU-Z, not for writing it in C#F++D--Q^3. :D