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TheMailMan78

Oct 2, 2011, 04:57 AM

I just changed the platoon avatar. What do you guys think?

MxPhenom 216

Oct 2, 2011, 05:00 AM

ah why did i uninstall origin and the the beta. i want to play with ya'll

bbmarley

Oct 2, 2011, 05:03 AM

any having problem looking at battle reports?

Battle Report no longer available
Could not find the Battle Report in the Statistics engine

assaulter_99

Oct 2, 2011, 05:09 AM

any having problem looking at battle reports?

Battle Report no longer available
Could not find the Battle Report in the Statistics engine

Works here though.

GullyFoyle

Oct 2, 2011, 05:11 AM

Wx2hpuuVEd8

Wrigleyvillain

Oct 2, 2011, 05:13 AM

ah why did i uninstall origin and the the beta. i want to play with ya'll

Sorry but :laugh:

Mussels

Oct 2, 2011, 05:17 AM

It's a shame you don't like it :( why does the server browser need to be in game though? I don't understand how its such a large factor since I seem to stay ingame most of the time.

well for one, it doesnt bloody work for a lot of people, me included. i cannot join servers at all, its broken.

if you can start the game, you can use in game browser. or even an in-origin browser. but nooooooo....

Killer_Rubber_Ducky

Oct 2, 2011, 05:24 AM

Here is the Brand New BF3 Feature List: All features are being included in the Beta and only for level 14 players and up. :twitch:

Full Feature List:
Aimbot:
* Auto Aim/Auto Shoot
* Full No Spread, All bullets hit dead on center
* Full 360 FOV Aimbot, can even see behind you
* Bone Scan, Find a bone to hit when the player hides
* Aim key, Select and use any aimkey you want to use
* Choose from different Hitboxes to aim for; Head/Neck/Chest/Waist
* Select Enemies, Friends, or Everyone as your target.
* Smooth Aim, Slows the movement of the aimbot to look more like a natural player.
* Visibility Checks, Aimbot only locks on when player can be hit
* Knifebot with boneaim to target any area of the enemy
* Auto Knife, Will knife as soon as enemy is in range
* Auto Pistol, Hold down the fire key and watch it auto unload
* Target by closest to distance or closest to crosshair
* Preferred Target Selection, Enter a soldier name or clan tag to turn those players bounding boxes yellow to hunt them down
* Friendly Target Skip, List the names of friends you don't want to kill

ESP:
* Name Tags, Show names of all friendlies and enemies.
* Health Tags, Show health of all friendlies and enemies.
* Visual Tags, Shows an icon or frame around enemies to give away their position, even behind walls.
* Class Tags, Show class of all enemies and friendlies.
* Distance Tags, Show the distance between you and all friendlies and enemies.
* Smart Bounding Boxes, Enemy is red, RDX enemy is orange and anyone you want to take revenge on can be selected to have a yellow box
* UAV ESP
* UAV Warning
* Can target UAV

ViewDistance:
* Select from three varying distances to allow you to see the entire map.

Removals:
* Remove Blur, Removes shellshock effect when explosions occur nearby
* Remove Grass, Removes Grass and other vegetation to reveal enemies and gain FPS
* Remove Sky, Blackens the sky to reveal light silhouettes of enemies on the horizon. Also makes aiming at gunships easier
* Remove Fog, Removes fog to make enemies easier to see.
* Remove Smoke, no more smoke from grenades, burning objects or orbital strikes

2D Radar:
* Reveals enemy positions.
* Zoom feature

Misc:
* Trigger Bot, Lets you be more discreet by only firing when your crosshair hovers over the enemy.
* Two Tone Chams, paints a bright color skin, visible through walls, on both enemies and friendlies. Shows you a different color when they are behind something
* Spawn beacon Chams, find enemy spawn beacons with ease
* Show FPS, Show how many frames per second your running
* Show Ping, Display your current ping on screen
* Show Time, Display the current time in game
* Show Kills, Display your current kill/death ratio
* Visual Toggle, Make trees, tire tracks, rain, snow, and many other things disappear and reappear at the stroke of a key
* Enemy Aim Warnings, Enemy name appears at top center when they aim at you
* Snap Lines, Renders a red line from the enemy aiming at you to your crosshair
* Kill Sounds, You can define your own kills sounds at the number of kills you like. See our BF2142 Extreme VIP forum for member submitted sounds!
* Choose from any of the games crosshairs

DannibusX

Oct 2, 2011, 05:26 AM

meh dont care flashlight red dot blinding turns me off completely

i can understand a small penalty but full out blinding when out doors from a flashlight from 20 feet away? really or the awesome scope glare that blinds you just as badly overall the beta is shit and i feel the regular game is going to suck as well

aaaaaaaand the winner of the 5,000th BF3 Clubhouse Forum Post goes to Crazyeyesreaper, bitching about the beta and citing things that piss him off as usual.

Congratulations big guy! I know you've been practicing at hating BF3 all day and I can't wait to see what the 10,000th post brings!

meh, this game is so awesome. I can't believe I was a laser blinding hater and/or even had a problem with a flashlight that is as bright as the sun! My kdr is awesome.

Speaking of which, look up the BrightStrike. That fucker will BLIND you from across the room and you won't see right for a full minute after it's not aimed at you.

random

Oct 2, 2011, 05:26 AM

well for one, it doesnt bloody work for a lot of people, me included. i cannot join servers at all, its broken.

if you can start the game, you can use in game browser. or even an in-origin browser. but nooooooo....

Yeah there is enough hiccups even in Bad Company 2 where it wouldn't load the DLC kits in the maps sometime or get kicked out of a game for no reason, I am worried that it'll become even more annoying now that it's browser based. If you're having problems connecting though you should check and see if your router has uPnP enabled, this fixed the issue for me personally and or I myself can't connect to any Gamearena servers except for my ISP's (IINET and Hypernia) otherwise I could join multiplay and non AU servers eg US ones. 250ms ping really isn't that noticeable in game and your shots should still register as they hit your opponent at least from what I've experienced.

TheMailMan78

Oct 2, 2011, 05:28 AM

random

Oct 2, 2011, 05:31 AM

Is anyone gonna get a TPU party going or what? ^_^

Scrizz

Oct 2, 2011, 05:35 AM

Yeah Caspian got pretty harsh, even for my 6950. But we'll see what it's like at release.

And added you to the platoon just now Horrux.

I actually got better fps in caspian than in metro

I just changed the platoon avatar. What do you guys think?

ooo NICE!
I like it!
:respect::respect::respect::respect:

mastrdrver

Oct 2, 2011, 06:01 AM

Is it actually possible to find friends and join in their game? If so, how?

f22a4bandit

Oct 2, 2011, 06:14 AM

Is it actually possible to find friends and join in their game? If so, how?

Bottom right corner of browser will show you friends online. An option will appear next to the name in the form of a small icon that should allow you to join them (assuming there is an empty server spot).

bbmarley

Oct 2, 2011, 06:20 AM

add to com center use this button

random

Oct 2, 2011, 06:36 AM

Can't connect to EA backend atm, this happening for everyone?

rampage

Oct 2, 2011, 06:47 AM

I am having the back end server issues as well. also i have noticed its saying i am rank 0 now, i was rank 17, even tho it shows all of my recent unlocks

its broken big time, i had a lot less issues when the beta first come out

*edit http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/#!/bf3/forum/threadview/2826551518960902389/

forums have no answer either, possible server re start

Crusader

Oct 2, 2011, 06:50 AM

Yeah I did the same thing, when it fixed itself though I put old batteries in and it worked fine too so maybe its a compatibility issue with wireless keyboards.

I swear I've been having the same problem with my G700 while wireless, it just cuts out for a second or two at certain points.

Also, anyone having issues with either Origin or Steam overlays flickering like mad? Both overlays for me flicker like crazy making them barely usable. Happened with Origin overlay before adding Steam, so :confused:

EDIT: I am having the back end server issues as well. also i have noticed its saying i am rank 0 now, i was rank 17, even tho it shows all of my recent unlocks

its broken big time, i had a lot less issues when the beta first come out

Click Stats next to your profile in Battlelog; "The BF3 Statistics Engine is currently down.". That's your problem.

rampage

Oct 2, 2011, 07:01 AM

i am up and running again

mastrdrver

Oct 2, 2011, 07:03 AM

Has anyone seen a video of someone destroying the radio antenna on Caspian Boarder while a server was up?

Crusader

Oct 2, 2011, 07:20 AM

i am up and running again

So was I, then it went down again :banghead:

mastrdrver

Oct 2, 2011, 07:22 AM

Just went down for me too.

1Kurgan1

Oct 2, 2011, 07:29 AM

Why would anyone care about DX11 for an online FPS? Everyone who want's to increase their K/D and rank up fast will disable DX11, Ambient Occlusion, AA, and other IQ settings if it reduces any lag. I've ranked up once per round (after the 12th Rank) once I get a good kill streak going. If I get about 8-10 kill streak goin I would rank up before the end of the round. That's if the server doesn't disconnect (sigh).

I have almost a 1.9KDR in BC2 with over 550 hours and I have always played it maxed out. If you are experiencing bad minimum FPS turning down settings will help, but if you aren't it won't. Especially going to DX10, most of the times moving from DX10 to DX11 results in a frame increase, not a loss.

youtube vid

I was really hoping they used this song
DFziKTrlEis
But then I realized of course not, they would use the crappy song DICE used for their own video, was mildly disappointed.

You should use IE9. Works great.

One word. Chrome.

HammerON

Oct 2, 2011, 08:23 AM

I just changed the platoon avatar. What do you guys think?

Awesome!

mastrdrver

Oct 2, 2011, 08:27 AM

Wx2hpuuVEd8

:roll::roll::roll:

I love the comment "99 bugs but a fix ain't one". :laugh:

I saw today someone die and I was going to try to revive them......until their body flew across the map. I was thinking, hmmmm that's a new one. Become Superman when you die.

random

Oct 2, 2011, 08:31 AM

The beta still runs in DX11 though even no its probably not using all the features the retail game will.

I see most of my cores in use while the game is running so probably right, but I don't see the DX 11 features, most noticeable with the cover with the piled up sand sacks it is flat as, but you can sort of tell how the tessellation would contribute to making it stick out and look better.

H82LUZ73

Oct 2, 2011, 09:02 AM

"official word"

twitter.com/zh1nt0 (http://twitter.com/#!/zh1nt0/status/120182322803900416): "Please use 32 player max only servers. We cannot guarantee your account security otherwise. #BF3BETA"

This too http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2826564925948154637/ Gully thanks :)

DrunkenMafia

Oct 2, 2011, 09:10 AM

mastrdrver

Oct 2, 2011, 09:23 AM

This too http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2826564925948154637/ Gully thanks :)

What a bitch fest. I want to join hacked servers but not suffer the consequences. Play the "I'm an innocent victim of uncontrollable circumstances" card. :shadedshu

What? Are we all 5 yrs old suddenly? :rolleyes:

These are probably the people who blame others as hackers just because they suck the wind. I really hope we get an admin program for our BF3 servers as I thought I remembered someone saying there was a possibility that wasn't going to be possible with BF3. Nothing empties a server quite like a "you're all hackers" player.

horik

Oct 2, 2011, 09:30 AM

BTW - I am stoked they brought prone back, I hated crouching behind boxes in BC2 that were 1in to short and you get the top of head taken off by some muppet with a sniper rifle.

now you can safely stay hidden in a bush laid on your belly

AltecV1

Oct 2, 2011, 09:32 AM

i cant join any goddamn servers....it so damn frustrating

H82LUZ73

Oct 2, 2011, 09:36 AM

i cant join any goddamn servers....it so damn frustrating

they are re doing the servers right now ,I think they are taking those hack servers off and banning the guy`s who set them up.reason being those guys who have put them up are the dudes who build the aim bots and stuff,I really like this, means we all have a equal playing field on the 25. And Master no they are just spoiled kids who have nothing better to do why do you think that thread is locked now.Also I said back in Alpha do not be surprised to see Dice handle these server`s and hacker`s in an extreme way.Why they left Steam and invented Origin.

Q9650

Oct 2, 2011, 09:55 AM

hey guys can i play BF3 on my evga 1gb gtx 460 sc ee @1680x1050 on high settings? see my system specs for more info on my machine...:)

DrunkenMafia

Oct 2, 2011, 10:51 AM

hey guys can i play BF3 on my evga 1gb gtx 460 sc ee @1680x1050 on high settings? see my system specs for more info on my machine...:)

Yes, you should be fine with that. You may see some small lags on big maps but that res shouldn't be a problem at all. :)

Q9650

Oct 2, 2011, 11:12 AM

as far as i play @ 1680x1050 my gtx460 runs everything i throw at it. my lcd only support 1680x1050 so i cannot go 1920 but i am happy with 1680x1050..thanks

Crap Daddy

Oct 2, 2011, 12:04 PM

I also have the same res on 22" but I'm with GTX570 SC. Great aspect ratio 16x10 don't feel I need to change. You will be fine with your specs and anyway I found out that at lower settings the game still looks great (played on medium/low/SSAO on 720p with GTS450 512 MB and it looked OK and played well)

AlienIsGOD

Oct 2, 2011, 01:17 PM

im having a few issues @ med settings w 1680 x 1050 on my 4850. Its to be expected I suppose, with enuff bitching to the wife I can get a new card in a month or 2 :D

FreedomEclipse

Oct 2, 2011, 01:24 PM

im having a few issues @ med settings w 1680 x 1050 on my 4850. Its to be expected I suppose, with enuff bitching to the wife I can get a new card in a month or 2 :D

If you OC you Q9450 a some. you can pull some more frames. the CPU is your PC's weakpoint@3Ghz and it will hold back any higher end GPU you upgrade to.

Im not sure just how far you can go with a new graphics card. but i'd be looking at a 570 or 6950. A 560Ti will suffice if you cant afford either.

1Kurgan1

Oct 2, 2011, 01:41 PM

Well I been playing a lot of Support. And the one thing I have realized is, unless you are crouched with the bipod down, anything over 30 feet or so way is almost impossible to kill, or impossible to kill fast. It's pretty pointless to burst first, the 1st bullets accurate, 2nd bullet way to high, and 3rd bullet even higher, this is while trying to correct, but on such small bursts it's hard to judge how to correct as you usually need a few bullets to do so. So usually when trying to hit people at distance like snipers, I have to single fire the rounds, which is slow and they hit for very little. So I tap them a few times then they just hide. Or a guy 30 or so feet away, don't even bother aiming at him, recoil will just own you, go prone and bipod it, because if you don't mid fire he's goign to turn and own you with his Medic or Engineer AR.

I got a bit sick of that and decided to try out the AR's finally, no sights or anything, very little deviation while firing. And they seem to hit just as hard, was extremely easy to snipe with. And the recoil on it seemed to be better while standing and aiming that prone (non-bipod) as Support. I haven't got to try the foregrip on the ARs yet, but the LMG's it feels like it does nothing.

AltecV1

Oct 2, 2011, 01:56 PM

AlienIsGOD

Oct 2, 2011, 02:15 PM

If you OC you Q9450 a some. you can pull some more frames. the CPU is your PC's weakpoint@3Ghz and it will hold back any higher end GPU you upgrade to.

Im not sure just how far you can go with a new graphics card. but i'd be looking at a 570 or 6950. A 560Ti will suffice if you cant afford either.

A new build is coming at/after Xmas, but im starting with GFX now. My price range is ~ $200 CAN w/ taxes, so im more looking at a 6850/70 and another to follow.

TheMailMan78

Oct 2, 2011, 02:24 PM

random

Oct 2, 2011, 02:45 PM

FreedomEclipse

Oct 2, 2011, 02:53 PM

fucking HATE battlelog. -- Signed

1Kurgan1

Oct 2, 2011, 03:10 PM

I haven't had any real problems with Battlelog. It's easy enough to join a server and then when you leave it auto closes the window. Doesn't feel any different that leaving a server in BC2 really. I always have my internet open in the background anyways. I probably won't sign, as signing less than a month before release isn't going to change a thing anyways. And after it releases I would rather have them working on weapon tweaks, hit boxes, fixes, and toher crap. Rather than working on a menu that isn't going to change much. If they make an ingame menu and don't require Battlelog, Platoons and crap won't be checked much, I don't mind the setup at all really.

spray that shit son,spray it good

That isn't going to help at all. Spraying is for suppressing people behind rocks and crap. When someone is in front of you and you spray, it is horribly inaccurate. Even burst firing they are able to turn and kill you in in 2 or 3 bullets, spraying with no cover is not a good idea, and it's not an answer for all situations. The M249 seems to have less deviation than the PKP, but it's still horrible. I was just playing a round firing at a Medic would was prone not looking at me. Fired 5x 3 round bursts, the 1st bullet from each hit him, then he turns and lets 1 three round burst go and kills me, hit me with all 3 bullets.

I'm just saying the LMGs right now don't hit harder than the ARs (guns like the M416 seems to 1 shot kill to the body) and they are horribly inaccurate by comparison. The only time they are half way decent is if you are prone with a bipod, any other time, it would be better to have another weapon. Also it seems every weapon in the game with any kit provides suppressive fire, had a Recon with an SVD firing bullets over my head and blurring my vision. What is that crap? Every class gets to suppress, just Support only gets points for it? Thats pretty lame, anyone can fill the role then.

Wrigleyvillain

Oct 2, 2011, 03:22 PM

I am loving the beta, haven't had any probs so far, I guess I am one of the lucky ones with no crossfire issues. I was getting a lot of lag but found its because I was playing with the game windowed, full screen fixed that.

Mind you I have only played for about 2hrs so my issues may start soon.

BTW - I am stoked they brought prone back, I hated crouching behind boxes in BC2 that were 1in to short and you get the top of head taken off by some muppet with a sniper rifle. :)

Wish I could say the same; mainly due to intermittent performance issues I find it hard to compete and haven't had much fun (outside of my six knife kills anyway). Dunno that I'm having crossfire issues per se (disabling still seemed to eventually drop to unplayable framerates too at times) but I need it on anyway as one 6850 drops me from like 33 to 20 FPS at stock clocks outside (GPUs at 925/1150 can get all the up into the 50s too at times in first section so all over the place, really). By the third part of the map it's especially bad (or could also be that section; don't get there too much though).

However, unlike crazyeyes, there's no way in hell I expect to feel the same about the full game or that it will "suck". Especially after some time and patches, like any (BF) game.

mastrdrver

Oct 2, 2011, 03:56 PM

Have you guys seen this????

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2826564925935213578/1/

Look how many people have signed already.

Thanks, I signed. We already have facebook and statverse. Battlelog sorta gives me a disjointed gaming experience so far, just the idea of having to close the game and reopening it to switch modes/servers etc. makes my blood boil.

fucking HATE battlelog. -- Signed

You all realize that the likely hood of DICE removing Battlelog from the game is less then the sun splitting in two right? I'm assuming you do. If so what's the point?

I'll admit I don't mind Battlelog. Sure I'd rather have something like the BC2 or BF2 setup, but it's not enough for me to sign.

xenocide

Oct 2, 2011, 04:06 PM

Battlelog doesn't bother me, the server browser is no worse than the in-game ones that DICE\EA has put out in past BF games. If they could only add the Server Queuing from BC2 it would be quite a bit better. Sure, it's basically a lame BF-themed FB, but it does work decently well.

EastCoasthandle

Oct 2, 2011, 04:08 PM

Have you guys seen this????

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2826564925935213578/1/

Look how many people have signed already.

Christ I just realized they may reset battle log also so we may have to do the whole platoon thing over again.

That ain't even half of it. Check out EAUK's forum regarding:
In game Ping (http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3/1435010-do-you-want-game-ping.html)
Add In game server browser (http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3/1418087-battlelog-replaces-server-browser-main-menu-bf3-pc.html)
In game squad management (http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3/1434355-petition-get-fully-working-game-squad-management-poll.html) is by far, the highest vote count I've seen on that forum.

There is a lot more going on with this game then just bugs. People don't like the direction of how we can play the game.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky

Oct 2, 2011, 04:08 PM

You all realize that the likely hood of DICE removing Battlelog from the game is less then the sun splitting in two right? I'm assuming you do. If so what's the point?

I'll admit I don't mind Battlelog. Sure I'd rather have something like the BC2 or BF2 setup, but it's not enough for me to sign.

Oh look, CrazyEyesReaper has competition.

EastCoasthandle

Oct 2, 2011, 04:31 PM

Hit Registration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGaP5wTYLtQ). They say hit registration is client side now.

TRIPTEX_CAN

Oct 2, 2011, 04:32 PM

Anyone up for some Sunday gaming? I'll be in a party in BattleFace.

AltecV1

Oct 2, 2011, 04:48 PM

how can i play with you guys?

EDIT: never mind i applied do the platoon

FreedomEclipse

Oct 2, 2011, 05:12 PM

Hit Registration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGaP5wTYLtQ). They say hit registration is client side now.

Ive experienced a lot of what hes talking about in the video. Like when i bump into a enemy while fighting in the metro. I get at least 3 or 4 hits from my rifle or PDW (Machine pistol) and i have red dot laser so i know the motherfucker is partially blinded. then he just fires once with a MP-44 grach or M9 or any of the starter pistols and im insta killed.

Everything he talks about in the video, ive experienced

random

Oct 2, 2011, 05:18 PM

I thought you people in the west peaked around this hour? :laugh: and here I was looking forward for some action with the TPU platoon.

johnspack

Oct 2, 2011, 05:32 PM

Well, I caught the bug too I guess, got origin installed and dling it now. Almost at 3MB/s! Now to see if my system can actually run it.

raptori

Oct 2, 2011, 05:52 PM

Ive experienced a lot of what hes talking about in the video. Like when i bump into a enemy while fighting in the metro. I get at least 3 or 4 hits from my rifle or PDW (Machine pistol) and i have red dot laser so i know the motherfucker is partially blinded. then he just fires once with a MP-44 grach or M9 or any of the starter pistols and im insta killed.

Everything he talks about in the video, ive experienced

almost same , now its worse than BFBC2

TRIPTEX_CAN

Oct 2, 2011, 06:37 PM

I dont know whats changed but when I enable fullscreen the game just closes... that's if I can even join a server.

kid41212003

Oct 2, 2011, 06:45 PM

It happened to me once because i "manually" clicked on Maximize on BF3 windows but clicked on "Go To Game" worked everytime.

boise49ers

Oct 2, 2011, 07:13 PM

Man I wish I didn't love Football so much I could game :))

erocker

Oct 2, 2011, 07:19 PM

I'm just going to wait for release now.

/uninstalled.

Darkleoco

Oct 2, 2011, 07:24 PM

No one chilling on Teamspeak leaves me bored lol and why can't release be closer :/

mastrdrver

Oct 2, 2011, 07:37 PM

Oh look, CrazyEyesReaper has competition.

jealous? :laugh:

j/k

random

Oct 2, 2011, 07:42 PM

Good thing RAGE and Arkham City comes out weeks or so before BF3 :), plenty of games to look forward to if you can't stand the 3+ weeks wait.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky

Oct 2, 2011, 07:48 PM

I'm just going to wait for release now.

/uninstalled.

find that good stuff and work at it till you find release. ^_^;)

purecain

Oct 2, 2011, 07:55 PM

for those of you in the uk,

fighting on the frontline:fighting the taliban is just about to start on channel 4...(wow their showcasing the new WARTHOG APC....)
The BvS 10 is an All Terrain Armoured Vehicle produced by BAE Systems Land Systems Hagglunds of Sweden. This vehicle, referred to as the All Terrain Vehicle (protected) - ATV(P) or warthog by the UK forces, was originally developed as a collaboration between industry - Hägglunds Vehicle AB - and the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) on behalf of the Royal Marines.

back on topic, i had a good few hours without the disconnect from server every 2nd round...

did anyone else or is anyone else having these same periods of server connection stability...

erocker

Oct 2, 2011, 08:05 PM

find that good stuff and work at it till you find release. ^_^;)

wat?

Radical_Edward

Oct 2, 2011, 08:20 PM

For some reason I can't find any servers right now? I even turned off all my filters.

xenocide

Oct 2, 2011, 08:24 PM

Hit Registration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGaP5wTYLtQ). They say hit registration is client side now.

Yea, a lot of those issues really are problems. I'm sure there are situations where I benefit from them, but I hate when they take any amount of skill out of the equation and replace it with luck\chance.

GullyFoyle

Oct 2, 2011, 08:33 PM

Planet Battlefield - Battlefield 3 Server Files Leak, DICE Warns Against Joining Non Official Servers (http://planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/fullstory.php?id=165480)

Sunday, 2 October, 2011 at 12:21 PST | ^Scott^ | Print News

Yesterday, an old Battlefield 3 beta server build was leaked causing many unauthorized modded servers to pop up on the Battlelog server browser. Some of these servers were running 128 players or more, other gamemodes on Operation Metro and modified point values. DICE warns people not to join these servers as it could cause your EA account to become banned.

In Battlefield 2 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 ranked server providers must submit server IPs to DICE to be added to a whitelist. This allows DICE to control exactly what servers show up as ranked. Battlefield 3 ranked servers will most likely have whitelist support added soon to combat modded servers.
http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/images/news3/mfoQW_sm.jpg (http://planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/fms/Image.php?image=http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/images/news3/mfoQW.jpg)

Wrigleyvillain

Oct 2, 2011, 08:41 PM

It's just too intermittently super choppy for me to really enjoy but I appreciate the chance to get a feel for the gameplay before the final drops.

On a more positive note it is appears to be utilizing most if not all of my cores (HT on). At any given time at least six have load of like 30-100%. But that obviously isn't helping it run any better at this early juncture. It needs some better code and driver support all of which we will have.

kid41212003

Oct 2, 2011, 08:43 PM

How to play Support:

- Hide like a bitch
- Shoot from behind your allies' back like a bitch
- Killsteal like a bitch
- A bitch

They either have to buff up the damage or suppression effect.

DannibusX

Oct 2, 2011, 09:05 PM

I've played a lot of games where I got put in a squad with 3 Support classes and not a medikit to be found. Suits me just fine, since I play assault most of the time. It's be nice to have a balanced squad though.

The last game I saw all three of the support dudes in my squad throw out ammo boxes though. The planets must have aligned for a game. I can't wait until this game releases.

MetalHead74

Oct 2, 2011, 10:13 PM

Game is running perfect for me.. make sure you guys configure the server browser to only show servers in your country or area it really helps alot.. I have no problems with hit registration or lag. Game keeps getting better and better for me. Also i just keep clicking on servers wether they are full or not over and over and i always get in a server under 3 or 4 minutes tops. Good luck! :toast:

20mmrain

Oct 2, 2011, 10:47 PM

Good thing RAGE and Arkham City comes out weeks or so before BF3 :), plenty of games to look forward to if you can't stand the 3+ weeks wait.

Very true just sad that I only game on PC and Batman Arkham city is postponed until Nov 1st sigh :(

On another note.... I was planning on pre-purchasing this game today! (BF3) but I am just seeing all these issues and I am not a fan of the internet browser launch.... I am second guessing my thoughts to do this! I might wait to see how release goes and how many issues they can fix.

Bjorn_Of_Iceland

Oct 2, 2011, 11:01 PM

http://i52.tinypic.com/124iwdz.jpg

lol

Mussels

Oct 2, 2011, 11:05 PM

_ALB_R3D X

Oct 2, 2011, 11:22 PM

All servers down...WTH??

FierceRed

Oct 2, 2011, 11:27 PM

Good thing RAGE and Arkham City comes out weeks or so before BF3 :), plenty of games to look forward to if you can't stand the 3+ weeks wait.

Arkham City PC has been delayed to "November". Someone else replying to you said it was delayed until November '1st' and I'd love to see the source of that info, as so far, all I've heard is its a fuzzy "sometime in November" placeholder date.

play on modded server = lose all EA games in your account. fun times ahead?

I personally played on one of them, as did a bunch of my friends who I play BC2 with and I'm sure its an empty threat, more intended to get people to shy away from the servers than actually carrying punitive weight heavier than a paper tiger can bear.

I'll stay away from the servers anyway (the gameplay of shitty Metro in Conquest mode isn't very good), as I've warned my friends to do just in case, but considering the vast amount of people who participated in the Beta, especially with friends who might invite them to join the server they're in, who may have graced the hacked servers with a connection simply thinking they were official EA tests like Caspian Border servers were, it would be infeasible and a PR shitstorm if suddenly EA started banning hundreds, probably thousands of shiny new Origin accounts, thereby possibly robbing those gamers of Crysis 2, Alice Madness Returns and Dragon Age 2 purchases, simply for the crime of being curious during the largest Open Beta in gaming history.

Even EA isn't that stupid. Thank the gods. :toast:

FreedomEclipse

Oct 2, 2011, 11:38 PM

PVTCaboose1337

Oct 2, 2011, 11:46 PM

lol

I'm one of the bush people. I do pretty well for myself.

TheMailMan78

Oct 2, 2011, 11:49 PM

lol

Do you have a close up of that?

FierceRed

Oct 2, 2011, 11:53 PM

I wonder to what extent your account gets banned.

you could still register a new email and use it to register the key that comes with the finished game if you do get banned. thats if they dont ban your IP but what if your ISP uses a Dynamic IP??

all you lose are your Master account stats and vet status (if you have any)

You know, I don't particularly mind their absence, but I don't have Vet status in a ton of stuff when I totally should.

I had BF2 close to when it came out, before the grenade spam, and left around when they took over a year for patch 1.5 or whatever it was. I also got BF2142 back in the days when just going on the Titan crashed the hell out of your machine, and BC2 before all the Steam sales.

I wonder what the conditions are to trigger it?

1Kurgan1

Oct 2, 2011, 11:59 PM

Hit Registration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGaP5wTYLtQ). They say hit registration is client side now.

The instant death is how I die most of the time. The 2nd problem was around in BC2 as well, has nothing to do with client side, has to do with, you send your info out to the server, they send theres, you are around the corner from what you can see, for them you aren't.

How to play Support:

- Hide like a bitch
- Shoot from behind your allies' back like a bitch
- Killsteal like a bitch
- A bitch

They either have to buff up the damage or suppression effect.

Glad I'm not insane in thinking this. And even doing what you said just blows as LMGs are by far the worst sniping weapons in the game. All I can do is hope to keep people marked and surppressed, because if they shoot me just once I will probably die and I need a good 3 - 5 bullets to kill them.

FreedomEclipse

Oct 3, 2011, 12:01 AM

I wonder what the conditions are to trigger it?

I think its just a white lie to keep players off servers that arent part of the beta. but thats just my $2

FierceRed

Oct 3, 2011, 12:03 AM

I think its just a white lie to keep players off servers that arent part of the beta. but thats just my $2

Did you misquote me? :)

FreedomEclipse

Oct 3, 2011, 12:13 AM

Did you misquote me? :)

no - I just thought it was strange all along.

specially with their passwords for caspian border getting spread all over the interwebz.

people always want what they cant have but if they leave the server unpassworded and modify the server configs to show 0/100 players then start up a ruse that its from hackers stealing accounts and it will keep people away.

---

to put it short. Its like a beware of the dog sign but you cant see the dog so you have no idea how big or small it is.

What DICE/EA said about the hacked servers isnt impossible but then again the cover story isnt 100% believable.

Boneface

Oct 3, 2011, 04:43 AM

Hit Registration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGaP5wTYLtQ). They say hit registration is client side now.

Its really starting to turn me off of the beta! Hope its better in final release!

PVTCaboose1337

Oct 3, 2011, 04:47 AM

Its really starting to turn me off of the beta! Hope its better in final release!

That means you are only as good as your connection, which is a major issues IMO.

xenocide

Oct 3, 2011, 04:59 AM

The 2nd problem was around in BC2 as well, has nothing to do with client side, has to do with, you send your info out to the server, they send theres, you are around the corner from what you can see, for them you aren't.

That's exactly why Client-Sided Hit Detection is bad lol. When it's server-side you're both seeing what the server is broadcasting, it normalizes things preventing any sort of advantage someone has (to an extent).

Glad I'm not insane in thinking this. And even doing what you said just blows as LMGs are by far the worst sniping weapons in the game. All I can do is hope to keep people marked and surppressed, because if they shoot me just once I will probably die and I need a good 3 - 5 bullets to kill them.

LMG's aren't bad at all. I do pretty good with them. I would go one further and say I frag just as hard as Support as I do as Assault some times. I honestly think they should have given Support most of the Medic Elements, but oh well.

crazyeyesreaper

Oct 3, 2011, 05:17 AM

yea im in maine so.... client side hit detection means the game will be 99% impossible for me to play and enjoy

went from

1.4-1.8 K/D and 185-190 SPM in BC2
down to
.1-.6 K/D and 150-165 SPM, in BF3

the way the game is currently isnt fun at all its sad but from my position in the North East playing Duke Nukem Forever or Call of Duty online to a guy whos hosting it off his home PC in his moms basement has better heat detection and is more fun, thats pretty damn sad, there new system basically screws someone like me, overall from the Beta and what ive seen its utter shit, dice actually managed to make shit WORSE then BF2's atrocious hit detection and worse then BC2, lol rather hilarious to watch them hype it up but from my position besides the better graphics BF3 is worse in nearly every single regard and if you dont have unlocks the game punishes noobs even harder then BC2 does lol.

and shotguns are nerfed hardcore in the final game theyve made the shotguns crosshairs THINNER and harder to see which is just fantastic seems DICE nerfs shit that didnt need it and just in general failed with BF3 so far.

hv43082

Oct 3, 2011, 05:25 AM

Is it just me or is the UMP 45 godly again in this game?

MT Alex

Oct 3, 2011, 05:28 AM

Is it just me or is the UMP 45 godly again in this game?

Nope, it's not just you. That thing would just as soon kill you with one as to look at you.

hv43082

Oct 3, 2011, 05:33 AM

Nope, it's not just you. That thing would just as soon kill you with one shot than look at you.

Pair it with flash light and game is over. They really need to tone down the flash light.

MT Alex

Oct 3, 2011, 05:36 AM

Agreed. Hell, I was behind a squadie who was using one, tonight, and it was so damn bright even pointing away from me that it was hard to see.

On a lighter note, tonight was the first night things started falling into place and I had a couple of good games where I got into the groove. Makes things much more enjoyable, because I was really stinking the place up before.

xenocide

Oct 3, 2011, 06:32 AM

1.4-1.8 K/D and 185-190 SPM in BC2
down to
.1-.6 K/D and 150-165 SPM, in BF3

Your signature begs to differ...

random

Oct 3, 2011, 06:56 AM

No doubt though I noticed the upgrades make a whole lot of difference as it would in BFBC2 to anyone's KD ratio or SPM. Started at <1.00 KD/ratio and 100 ish SPM til I got the upgrades that suited my play style which is M16/AK74 reflex with silencer and foregrip. Now rockin 1.427kd and 342spm as assault, doing much better than my BFBC2 profile but then again the beta is only for one map, I don't do all that well in big maps with vehicles. The hits register fine for me although not when I am the one being shot usually I'd only feel the last shot that'd kill me, I don't even see my health go down or anything sometimes when someone is spraying at me.

TRIPTEX_CAN

Oct 3, 2011, 07:11 AM

I went from a 1.1 k/d this morning to 1.5 k/d and my spm doubled. It's all about knowing game environment... and whoring the m416/AEK.

DanishDevil

Oct 3, 2011, 07:19 AM

Just rounded out a nice game to find out that there's a Battlelog update in progress. Let's hope it's good!

I've now got two stars, one with the 870 Combat, and one with the M4A1. What wonderful weapons in the beta. I prefer both in the subways, and use the following loadouts:

870 MCS w/ Reflex Sight, Extended Mags, Flechette Rounds & COVR
M4A1 w/ Reflex Sight, Foregrip, Suppressor & Ammo

On a random note, it seems like sniping today has been completely and utterly worthless. I've had solid aim with no hit markers about half the time. Decided to go all out with the M4, and glad I did.

Radical_Edward

Oct 3, 2011, 07:42 AM

M4A1/Suppressor/ACOG/Vert Grip = Win.

1Kurgan1

Oct 3, 2011, 07:59 AM

LMG's aren't bad at all. I do pretty good with them. I would go one further and say I frag just as hard as Support as I do as Assault some times. I honestly think they should have given Support most of the Medic Elements, but oh well.

Looking at your stats I see you have only used the 1st LMGs, I moved past those, I might have to try them out. But the PKP 3 burst firing only 1 of those bullets is going to hit your intended target. M249 you might get lucky and land 2 as it has less kick.

yea im in maine so.... client side hit detection means the game will be 99% impossible for me to play and enjoy

went from

1.4-1.8 K/D and 185-190 SPM in BC2
down to
.1-.6 K/D and 150-165 SPM, in BF3

It's surprising your SPM has gone down, seems everyone has high SPM in BF3, more points for doing actions. There are numerous East Coast servers up, I seen NJ servers all the time, my connection seems fine all the way across the US. But I don't know what net you got, so hard to compare.

AltecV1

Oct 3, 2011, 08:00 AM

can someone help me please.i joined the TPU platoon but i cant figure out how do i see who is playing and join them ?

1Kurgan1

Oct 3, 2011, 08:01 AM

if you are in Battlelog, up top there is Platoon on the menu. Click that then you will see Techpowerup, click that and now you see the platoon, if you want to see the member list, click that on the left side. If their icon is surrounded in green it means they are on Battlelog, you will have to click each person and see if they are playing or not.

AltecV1

Oct 3, 2011, 08:05 AM

1Kurgan1

Oct 3, 2011, 08:10 AM

If you click on their name to see their profile, if it shows an option to join their game, then they are playing. If it doesn't, then they aren't playing.

AltecV1

Oct 3, 2011, 08:15 AM

If you click on their name to see their profile, if it shows an option to join their game, then they are playing. If it doesn't, then they aren't playing.

ok thanks :) there are people logged in but i guess nobody is playing,i try later again when you bastards wake up in the US :p

xenocide

Oct 3, 2011, 08:28 AM

Looking at your stats I see you have only used the 1st LMGs, I moved past those, I might have to try them out. But the PKP 3 burst firing only 1 of those bullets is going to hit your intended target. M249 you might get lucky and land 2 as it has less kick.

I die to the M249 a lot, but I prefer the starting LMG's because they are essentially the same thing as the Assault Rifles but with larger clips. I rarely use bursts at all because to be honest, spraying is just as accurate in this game, and with the amount of recoil bursting produces after the 2nd shot you're screwed.

snuif09

Oct 3, 2011, 08:51 AM

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/-TecVi-snuif09/stats/174502076/

This is how much I care about snipers =) ASSAULT MASTER CLASS.

Feel free to add me btw.

1Kurgan1

Oct 3, 2011, 09:14 AM

If anyone thinks they are a good player here, then here is your benchmarks
http://img.techpowerup.org/111003/Capture130.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/111003/Capture131.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/111003/Capture132.jpg
One day when I grow up and get big and strong I will reach 2.6 million SPM, you just wait!

I die to the M249 a lot, but I prefer the starting LMG's because they are essentially the same thing as the Assault Rifles but with larger clips. I rarely use bursts at all because to be honest, spraying is just as accurate in this game, and with the amount of recoil bursting produces after the 2nd shot you're screwed.

I'll have to try spraying, realistically that shouldn't work well for sniping, so I guess I have just stopped myself from doing it.

H82LUZ73

Oct 3, 2011, 09:41 AM

If anyone thinks they are a good player here, then here is your benchmarks
http://img.techpowerup.org/111003/Capture130.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/111003/Capture131.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/111003/Capture132.jpg
One day when I grow up and get big and strong I will reach 2.6 million SPM, you just wait!

I'll have to try spraying, realistically that shouldn't work well for sniping, so I guess I have just stopped myself from doing it.
Hacked servers lol go to the weapons section five buck says they have 1 million kills with 45 mns of play .And you wonder why DICE banned those guys hahaha:roll:

1Kurgan1

Oct 3, 2011, 09:46 AM

Yep, all hackers, top guy I think had 5.5 million kills, didn't look at the rest.

caleb

Oct 3, 2011, 10:12 AM

Its time for a new PC cause I keep dying from lockups all the time. Game works ok untill there is a sound being played then my PC locks up for a sec. That damn that Forex and USD/PLN exchange rate lately. By example i2500K went from 710PLN up to 860PLN within a week.

FreedomEclipse

Oct 3, 2011, 10:22 AM

Is it just me or is the UMP 45 godly again in this game?

Nope, it's not just you. That thing would just as soon kill you with one as to look at you.

the UMP-45 is retardedly OP. To the point where its more powerful then assualt rifles. in most cases it takes only 2 hits from a UMP-45 (or less depending on the fucked up hit detection) to kill you at 100% HP

xenocide

Oct 3, 2011, 10:25 AM

It has been well noted that the SMG's are ridiculously powerful in BF3. They definitely need some nerfing to be balanced.

FreedomEclipse

Oct 3, 2011, 10:29 AM

It has been well noted that the SMG's are ridiculously powerful in BF3. They definitely need some nerfing to be balanced.

I think the SMG line is fine. its more to do with individual guns.

Also one thing i hate about the beta -- the stardard AK47 is WEAK

crazyeyesreaper

Oct 3, 2011, 10:32 AM

all weapons are retarded weak until lyou unlock every god damn thing with that weapon 10 hrs later. then its semi decent lolz

and Kurgan my net is 18mbps down 512kbps up shouldnt be a problem its overall distance

say i join on you or highway or erocker most of the time the server is west coast

thats 2600 milles 1 way for client side detection to work right it travels from whomever im shooting at to the server back to the client then back to the server

so when im shooting someone its multi trip 2600 1 way 5200 back again just on MY end not counting client packets from whom im shooting at to the server

say they are in maine as well thats 10400 miles before all the info is processed then whomever is left alive that info has to be sent back to the server again resulting in another 2600miles for 13000 miles round trip before a bullet hit registry is detected considered good then delievered back to the person in real time

for BC2 its 5200 + 2600 for 7800 total miles round trip now granted yes other servers closer to me are not nearly as bad but the problem persists mostly just from how its set up to much handshaking for get the information needed,

the way its setup right now is actually worse then if the matches were hosted on a persons machine much like Call Of Duty there matchmaking is currently superior at this juncture from what ive seen, maybe dice can turn it around but color me jaded on there past efforts to fix BF2 and BC2 of various issues that just made things WORSE, im sure everyone recalls the Medal of Honor hit detection patch they brought over to BC2 lolz

Simply put BF3 has to much more overhead for someone in my location in terms of distance to get proper info.

so i dropped BF3 went to play BC2 tonight 1.5-4.0 K/D every round. latency usually around 90ms-100ms

most BF3 servers i have 200-250ms ping / latency

and its readily apparent to me that BC2 is much faster paced then BF3, and since im not getting 1 shot by every weapon i dont have access to its much more enjoyable as well lol

xenocide

Oct 3, 2011, 10:43 AM

I have around 50ms to NJ\NYC\Illinois\VA servers for BF3 and the exact same for BC2, gonna go ahead and say it's your connection. I should have 20-30ms to NYC and NJ, but my Comcast connection has oddly high latency. The only unlocks I've ever used were Sprint (doesn't affect damage) and recently Forefrip on some guns (only affects recoil). So I beg to differ that all the guns are worthless until you put in 10 hours.

crazyeyesreaper

Oct 3, 2011, 10:51 AM

dosent explain why BC2 has half the latency / ping

the above is 1 example

the extreme example and BC2 still has 100ms ping vs BF3 average of 200-250

FreedomEclipse

Oct 3, 2011, 10:56 AM

when playing BF3, i more or less use the PP-2000 PDW. Ive just unlocked the second IR scope and flashlight for it last night. its a good gun and it kills stuff unless that the guys running around with UMP, then it doesnt matter who fires first.

purecain

Oct 3, 2011, 11:19 AM

if hit detection is client side and the server lets players move forwards and backwards in time with varying latency, all we are left with is chaos....

how could they have not come across this problem...

their servers simply do not keep players in sync... and we might aswell rename it anerchy online

or even better Instadeath ''you wont know what hit you... literally''...

the netcode is broken beyond belief... its worrying...

Scrizz

Oct 3, 2011, 11:27 AM

I'm one of the bush people. I do pretty well for myself.

SO am I, when I attack.
I also like knifing the snipers on dumbshit Island.
in defense I usually C4 the boxes. lol
Just when they think The are arming the box, BOOM!
:nutkick:

Glad I'm not insane in thinking this. And even doing what you said just blows as LMGs are by far the worst sniping weapons in the game. All I can do is hope to keep people marked and surppressed, because if they shoot me just once I will probably die and I need a good 3 - 5 bullets to kill them.

NO wonder my KDR and spm was shit.
lol
I was starting to actually believe I was a shit player.
I would always see everyone's stats were 3x better than mine lol.
now you people all see what I've been going through.
I've almost exclusively played the support class.
My scores didn't' start getting better until i got the PP2000.
good these stats aren't permanent. lol
When game goes live imma go assault until I unlock the pp2000.
lol

when playing BF3, i more or less use the PP-2000 PDW.

:toast:

Bjorn_Of_Iceland

Oct 3, 2011, 11:34 AM

Do you have a close up of that?
Sorry, nope. Just got it from a friend

It has been well noted that the SMG's are ridiculously powerful in BF3. They definitely need some nerfing to be balanced.
They are highly effective in cqb, as what they are meant to be. Since only map out there is metro, it has become a staple as of now and has gotten an amount of attention.. people will say its op, because they get sprayed in the face almost half of the time with some pp2000 whore with sprint MW-ing his way in the tunnels XD. But I doubt they will be overused or as highly effective in real battlefield maps

FreedomEclipse

Oct 3, 2011, 12:06 PM

Speople will say its op, because they get sprayed in the face almost half of the time with some pp2000 whore with sprint MW-ing his way in the tunnels XD.

If that was directed at me - I dont use the sprint perk. I carry extra ammo perk instead when using the PP-2000 as i tend to lay down cover and supressing fire.

Out in the park. im either Support/Ammo or Assualt/Medic - Both with PP-2000 (because i like it, and because it pwns) In the tunnels. I go engineer with the rockets. because the Carl Gustav whores of BC2 have made their way onto BF3

I dont go anywhere without my PP-2000 Especially since i unlocked the tactical flashlight.

but i hate when team mates flash their fucking light right at my face. It makes me wish that friendly fire was on.

-----

On a lighter note (pun intended) -- Players can now 'grief' other players on their team who spawn as sniper.....when 99% of the team are already snipers. just run around them shining your flashlight in their face!!!

Nothing says a bigger fuck you then a flashlight in the face!!!!

caleb

Oct 3, 2011, 12:10 PM

The real question is can you blind some1 in a tank ?

FreedomEclipse

Oct 3, 2011, 12:20 PM

The real question is can you blind some1 in a tank ?

Theres only one way to find out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3n0vBcW5fc&feature=related)

Bjorn_Of_Iceland

Oct 3, 2011, 12:24 PM

If that was directed at me - I dont use the sprint perk. I carry extra ammo perk instead when using the PP-2000 as i tend to lay down cover and supressing fire.

-----

On a lighter note (pun intended) -- Players can now 'grief' other players on their team who spawn as sniper.....when 99% of the team are already snipers. just run around them shining your flashlight in their face!!!

Nothing says a bigger fuck you then a flashlight in the face!!!!

lol not at all directed at you. I play most of the time in SG / JP servers, and this is how people normally roll there.

In anycase, good tip on the flashlight thing XD. I used to do that to Vassili wannabees who cant hit s#it.. but it was smoke grenade back then

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 12:51 PM

Pp-2000 ftmfw!

kg4icg

Oct 3, 2011, 12:54 PM

also nothing says "shoot me, shoot me" more than running around in the daylight with your flashlight on giving you away. Hard to believe in 1 game I ran up a straight 30 kill streak.

caleb

Oct 3, 2011, 12:59 PM

Theres only one way to find out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3n0vBcW5fc&feature=related)

No flashlight.
No tank.

Keep on googling.

snuif09

Oct 3, 2011, 01:09 PM

I really wonder how hardcore mode would be like.

You already die incredibly fast now and the balance is broken as hell.

Scrizz

Oct 3, 2011, 01:17 PM

so I just played some assault.
HOLY 5#17 no wonder you guys were doing so well.

support guns aren't even shooting bullets, more like paper.

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 01:46 PM

so I just played some assault.
HOLY 5#17 no wonder you guys were doing so well.

support guns aren't even shooting bullets, more like paper.

Use support for the ammo and the PP-2000 for the gun. WINNING!

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 01:55 PM

Use support for the ammo and the PP-2000 for the gun. WINNING!

Is more than that, its a DUH-WINNING!

Mindweaver

Oct 3, 2011, 02:10 PM

All I have to say about this game IS

http://multiply.com/mu/eletter/image/uns6C0SqJcMcUZm4DowVZg/photos/1M/1200x1200/108/GIF-2-Thumbs-Up.GIF?et=eZJluchEsxnNyazJWshUgQ&nmid=0

It's AWESOME! :toast: :rockout:

Frick

Oct 3, 2011, 02:13 PM

What on earth have happened to games in Sweden? This game is about €30 in stores here. I might just get it if I like the beta. Tomorrow (when I get my GPU) we'll see.

TheLaughingMan

Oct 3, 2011, 02:35 PM

You will all stop using the PP-2000 when you get the UMP-45. Duh Broken!

DannibusX

Oct 3, 2011, 02:38 PM

You will all stop using the PP-2000 when you get the UMP-45. Duh Broken!

It's pretty much the Golden Gun from Goldeneye 64.

Mindweaver

Oct 3, 2011, 02:42 PM

You will all stop using the PP-2000 when you get the UMP-45. Duh Broken!

Yea, i want that gun! I just got the pp-2000.. I figured it wasn't any good, because of other games i used it in and it sucked. But i will give that gun a try today! :toast:

Wrigleyvillain

Oct 3, 2011, 02:49 PM

Yeah thats one of the few guns I've never even really tried in BC2.

1Kurgan1

Oct 3, 2011, 03:08 PM

I loved the pp2000 in BC2 then they nerfed it massively. After that I still use it now and then and laugh at the fire rate.

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 03:08 PM

Ive been trollin the BF3 threads and from what it looks like, dice has mentioned that all glitches and stuff they are fixing WILL NOT BE in the beta. The beta will stay just like it is until the 10th then we will have to wait for the release to see all of what they have fixed.

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 03:12 PM

I loved the pp2000 in BC2 then they nerfed it massively. After that I still use it now and then and laugh at the fire rate.

Still good in HC. Not so much in regular.

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 03:17 PM

The PP2000 was the first weapon I got platinum in on BC2

Mindweaver

Oct 3, 2011, 03:23 PM

I feel a little conflicted.. Tomorrow Rage comes out, and sadly this will be the first id game i do not purchase on release date.. Because I will be playing the beta until the 10.. but I will still pick it up, but just after the 10th.. I'll have to beat that game before the 25th... cause BF3 will consume me.. hehehe

EastCoasthandle

Oct 3, 2011, 03:37 PM

Squads cannot be created in game? Really??? (http://n4g.com/news/855904/dice-squads-are-only-accessible-on-battlelog-no-squad-management-in-game/com)

PVTCaboose1337

Oct 3, 2011, 03:40 PM

Squads cannot be created in game? Really??? (http://n4g.com/news/855904/dice-squads-are-only-accessible-on-battlelog-no-squad-management-in-game/com)

Yeah i thought that was total BS. If a friend joins the server, they will have to join the squad out of luck.

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 03:59 PM

Squads cannot be created in game? Really??? (http://n4g.com/news/855904/dice-squads-are-only-accessible-on-battlelog-no-squad-management-in-game/com)

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w338/madbassist1/WTFAMIREADING.jpg

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 04:22 PM

http://img.techpowerup.org/111003/mm.png

FreedomEclipse

Oct 3, 2011, 04:29 PM

TRIPTEX_CAN

Oct 3, 2011, 04:42 PM

well.... I already hate battlelog. and since they defer squad management to battlelog. Im not sure if i want this game anymore.... I want to play BF3 with my mates and not fucking squad roulette Or musical chairs with friends that are hop scotching from squad to squad trying to be assigned to the right one.

I need to really think if i should cancel my pre-order now....

If they fix battlelog to handle the squad assignments and its actually works then all will be fine. Sure battlelog more or less sucks balls but but if you really have friends to play with they will most certainly be a friend in battlelog. I think the system for managing friends and parties is pretty decent. Even if battlelog is for the most part completely fucking gay.

I didnt take you for the "QQ I'm canceling" sort..... crazyeyes maybe.

Back to the UMP45. I agree its super OP and not in the sense that it has an edge over other guns but it stands head and shoulders above everything else.

EastCoasthandle

Oct 3, 2011, 04:43 PM

For the PC, MW2 sold just over 700k units (http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/28849/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2/). That came with the controversy of no dedicates servers. BackOps did do better with just over 1mill units sold (http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/44950/call-of-duty-black-ops/). But there was no real controversy to speak of. If those numbers are accurate it will be interesting to note how this game does on the PC? With all the controversy over lack of squad selection in game, battlelog itself, client side hit detection, missing in game ping, etc.

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 04:44 PM

There is a lot of boo hooing going on over a beta. A lot more then I expected from a tech community.

Honestly some things in Battlelog I really, REALLY like. Its just the fact I have to launch the game from it and lack of squad control I have the issue with.

Mindweaver

Oct 3, 2011, 04:57 PM

EastCoasthandle

Oct 3, 2011, 05:00 PM

I get the impression that the controversy over being able to create in game squads is as bad as dedicated servers for MW2. Just look at this poll (http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3/1434355-petition-get-fully-working-game-squad-management-poll.html) over on the EAUK forms. I've never seen that may people vote for a feature before. Let alone seen so many participate in voting over there.

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 05:02 PM

I just voted :)

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 05:07 PM

Why do consoles have it and we dont. Makes no damn sense.

Black Haru

Oct 3, 2011, 05:08 PM

If they fix battlelog to handle the squad assignments and its actually works then all will be fine. Sure battlelog more or less sucks balls but but if you really have friends to play with they will most certainly be a friend in battlelog. I think the system for managing friends and parties is pretty decent. Even if battlelog is for the most part completely fucking gay.

I didnt take you for the "QQ I'm canceling" sort..... crazyeyes maybe.

Back to the UMP45. I agree its super OP and not in the sense that it has an edge over other guns but it stands head and shoulders above everything else.

all of you hating on the UMP, the A-91 kicks its ass. easily. high fire rate and no recoil, I have accidentally killed so many people because they were running behind the guy I was shooting at and got hit with stray bullets after the first body fell.

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 05:10 PM

all of you hating on the UMP, the A-91 kicks its ass. easily. high fire rate and no recoil, I have accidentally killed so many people because they were running behind the guy I was shooting at and got hit with stray bullets after the first body fell.

Accidents don't just happen. Black Haru does.

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 05:11 PM

Im loving the PP2000 with red dot and laser. I took the stupid flash suppressor off cause it make you loose some accuracy

PVTCaboose1337

Oct 3, 2011, 05:13 PM

Im loving the PP2000 with red dot and laser. I took the stupid flash suppressor off cause it make you loose some accuracy

The PP2000 fired too slow for my liking, so I switched the UMP once I got it. IMO the UMP is much better, even with the silencer. I was able to counter snipers with it, even though it is an SMG / PDW.

FreedomEclipse

Oct 3, 2011, 05:15 PM

Why do consoles have it and we dont. Makes no damn sense.

+1

They are jerking us off imo. Console community were in tears that EA/DICE decided to make a PC port for them and they raged.

I dont think consoles need to use battlelog at all

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 05:18 PM

What we need is some Boats and Hoes.....

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8T095mFdW8&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLA739010047727C21

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 05:22 PM

What we need is some Boats and Hoes.....

v=dWMQ0aSykF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8T095mFdW8&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLA739010047727C21

dont you mean

o8T095mFdW8

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 05:28 PM

dont you mean

o8T095mFdW8

Fixed.

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 05:34 PM

B+h=boats and hoes!

Mindweaver

Oct 3, 2011, 06:11 PM

You guys don't think they will put an in game browser in the game? I think they will.. It's to simple of a process to build just a basic browser. All it would need to do is go to the battlelog page and that's it.

EDIT: I think the whole using different browsers is just to test for say browsers in phones and such. They already said you'll be able to change some stuff from your phone in the battlelog.

EastCoasthandle

Oct 3, 2011, 06:15 PM

Mindweaver

Oct 3, 2011, 06:16 PM

Wut?

add a web browser inside the game for battlelog.

EDIT: I wasn't apart of the alpha testing, but i heard from others that they didn't use battlelog to access the game.. Did i hear wrong? I don't think it's that big of a change to add an ingame webbrowser to the final build.

EastCoasthandle

Oct 3, 2011, 06:19 PM

add a web browser inside the game for battlelog.

You mean in game server browser, in game menu setup, and all that jazz from inside the game? Then have an option to click on battlelog which takes you to the web browser?

On the flip side of the coin they could have added all those features to Origin. Since we need it to run BF3 anyway and just drop the browser concept altogether. Hate to see the mem usage for that though.

But you shouldn't need that many programs to run one game.

Mindweaver

Oct 3, 2011, 06:24 PM

You mean in game server browser, in game menu setup, and all that jazz? Then have an option to click on battlelog which takes you to the web browser?

On the flip side of the coin they could have added all those features to Origin. Since we need it to run BF3 anyway and just drop the browser concept altogether. Hate to see the mem usage for that though.

But it still begs the question of why you need so many applications to run one game?

Nice i like your thinking.. They could use origins it's more less the same as steam which has a built in web browser inside the steam app. Those pages of content are just web pages. Why would EA rely on a web browser that wasn't theres.. that could nerf our game with an update.. and the way firefox is going hell we will be at version 100 in no time..lol All the browser needs to do is show the battlelog pages and nothing else. Don't give the user the ablitiy to go anywhere else.. :toast: but it would seem part of the game... Most people don't know that those are web pages inside of steam.

Wrigleyvillain

Oct 3, 2011, 06:39 PM

Yeah Origin seems pretty useless as it stands today outside of an EA marketplace.

digibucc

Oct 3, 2011, 06:56 PM

origin has a web browser. you can open it while playing battlefield beta.

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 07:06 PM

origin has a web browser. you can open it while playing battlefield beta.

Yup. It opens right to google. Whats funny is it doesnt support the BF3 plug-in however......oh the irony.

erocker

Oct 3, 2011, 07:09 PM

Has anyone tried just placing a shortcut from BF3.exe to the desktop and opening the game that way?

boise49ers

Oct 3, 2011, 07:12 PM

Yeah I have. It goes straight to battlelog.

Has anyone tried just placing a shortcut from BF3.exe to the desktop and opening the game that way?

erocker

Oct 3, 2011, 07:15 PM

Yeah I have. It goes straight to battlelog.

Indeed! Thus, making Origin not needed. :toast:

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 07:17 PM

Has anyone tried just placing a shortcut from BF3.exe to the desktop and opening the game that way?

nope, try it out?

*damn bunk ass battlelog*

Hope they change their minds in the retail!

20mmrain

Oct 3, 2011, 07:24 PM

Well I made my choice (Despite my worries) and pre-ordered BF3. But I have some questions some of you might be able to answer???

Okay if Battlelog goes down will the person owning the game still be able to play the single player campaign if they want???

The other question isn't really a questions it's more of a worry.....maybe EA has something about it.....So Origin already has it's issues with going down..... I do not know what in gods name made EA and the people at BF3 think that making Battlelog (another server setup) was a good idea. I mean we already have the chances for origin to go down now.... we will have the chance for Battlelog to go down too!..... I really hope they decide to get rid of it. I am not by any means holding my breath..... but it still would be very nice if they did!

BTW I just tried the applying the link to my desktop straight from BF3.exe and it still takes u to battlelog

Millennium

Oct 3, 2011, 07:24 PM

20mmrain

Oct 3, 2011, 07:26 PM

I can see why some people don't like Battlelog but does anyone agree it makes the process of playing multiplayer more streamlined? At least compared to BFBC2. It takes minutes to join a server in BC2 once you get through the fancy menus, the login process, server browser and so on.
With the BF3 system you just click multiplayer, view servers, sort by ping, join server, then wait a few seconds and you are in game.

My point is that you don't have to wait for some fancy 3d server browser etc. and it seems to be pretty damn quick doing things like loading the map and so on. Less overhead. And when you get in game it seems faster then before if anything. Just my $0.02 anyway.

I will agree that it feels faster and feels more stream lined but I will also say besides the obvious issues..... it also makes me feel like I am playing a flash game instead of a real video game. (Minus the nicer graphics of course)

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 07:38 PM

Millennium has a point. it is alot faster then joining a BC2 server. I wouldnt wind battlelog if you can press shift+F1 and goto origin/battlelog while in game and change servers.

MxPhenom 216

Oct 3, 2011, 07:52 PM

if it hasnt been posted already

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/10/03/battlefield-3-open-beta-update-2.aspx##

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 07:56 PM

if it hasnt been posted already

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/10/03/battlefield-3-open-beta-update-2.aspx##

Someone right click on your BF3 beta in origin and click check for updates? DOES IT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING?

DanishDevil

Oct 3, 2011, 07:57 PM

Apparently, it re-downloads the entire game (3.9GBish?). The Alpha required you to do this, but you don't have to with the Beta as it doesn't change anything.

MxPhenom 216

Oct 3, 2011, 07:58 PM

Someone right click on your BF3 beta in origin and click check for updates? DOES IT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING?

you dont update anything i dont think. its just a guy clearing this up again

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 08:10 PM

So it found updates today?

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 08:10 PM

So it found updates today?

I found a tick on my neck. Does that count?

brandonwh64

Oct 3, 2011, 08:11 PM

I found a tick on my neck. Does that count?

I guess :)

MT Alex

Oct 3, 2011, 08:22 PM

My Brother-in-law got an elk with his saddle gun, which should count. The old .30-.30 is a joke of a cartridge, so he's pretty stoked.

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 08:50 PM

My Brother-in-law got an elk with his saddle gun, which should count. The old .30-.30 is a joke of a cartridge, so he's pretty stoked.

No its not. Shot placement son!

EastCoasthandle

Oct 3, 2011, 09:09 PM

I can see why some people don't like Battlelog but does anyone agree it makes the process of playing multiplayer more streamlined? At least compared to BFBC2. It takes minutes to join a server in BC2 once you get through the fancy menus, the login process, server browser and so on.
With the BF3 system you just click multiplayer, view servers, sort by ping, join server, then wait a few seconds and you are in game.

My point is that you don't have to wait for some fancy 3d server browser etc. and it seems to be pretty damn quick doing things like loading the map and so on. Less overhead. And when you get in game it seems faster then before if anything. Just my $0.02 anyway.

No, it by no means makes the "process of playing MP more streamlined". It take far to long to join a server with battlelog then it does with BC2. And the process to do so including the number of programs needed to join a MP game in BC2 is far less.

Also, what fancy 3d server browser are you referring to? If the feature is needed regardless of where it implemented then I wouldn't refer to a server browser as "fancy". To be fair and honest, BC2 loads faster for me then BF3 Beta.

Horrux

Oct 3, 2011, 09:49 PM

Has anyone tried just placing a shortcut from BF3.exe to the desktop and opening the game that way?

I added it as a non-steam game into my library, so I can use the steam overlay in BF3 beta. AND my steam status says "Playing Battlefield 3"... :cool:

erocker

Oct 3, 2011, 09:51 PM

I added it as a non-steam game into my library, so I can use the steam overlay in BF3 beta. AND my steam status says "Playing Battlefield 3"... :cool:

I noticed that yesterday.. I think you're on my friends list. :)

EastCoasthandle

Oct 3, 2011, 10:12 PM

I added it as a non-steam game into my library, so I can use the steam overlay in BF3 beta. AND my steam status says "Playing Battlefield 3"... :cool:

That's because PB is disabled. Wait until it's enabled :p

MT Alex

Oct 3, 2011, 11:11 PM

No its not. Shot placement son!

Out here where the pavement ends and the West begins, it sure is. You get one when you're a little kid after the .22 gets boring, to warm you up for real cartridges. You carry them in your saddle (I don't, I have a .444) because they are like a shovel - super handy to have, but for real work you use better machinery. :laugh:

Anyhow, been having better rounds again, today. The only real frustrations were fellas packing the UMP-45. I unlocked the M416 but haven't had a chance to use it much.

1Kurgan1

Oct 3, 2011, 11:19 PM

If they create an in game browser that connects to battlelog with in the bf3.exe (the game) then battlelog will be fine. Let's hope they do... EA isn't one to let some other form of media destribute there games.. I don't see them using a non in house browser.. sure for the beta.. but not the game itself.

Won't happen, and I hope they don't. Because it will take a lot of time, what they would need is an entire Battlelog inside the game. Not just a join server, because if you wanted to find friends that were playing in your platoon you would need to use Battlelog anyways. So they would need to add that part to the game as well. And if they did then Battlelog just becomes another stat tracking site as no one would ever use it. I wouldnt hold my breath on an ingame list, it just won't happen, if it does Battlelog will die, people think it will get use without server lists and friends list, I don't think it will.

Indeed! Thus, making Origin not needed. :toast:

Origin running isn't a huge deal. Eitherway, I don't think I have actually opened Origins window to start my game for the last week. I just click my link on my browser bar to bring me to Battlelog, then I start playing.

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 11:25 PM

Out here where the pavement ends and the West begins, it sure is. You get one when you're a little kid after the .22 gets boring, to warm you up for real cartridges. You carry them in your saddle (I don't, I have a .444) because they are like a shovel - super handy to have, but for real work you use better machinery. :laugh:

Anyhow, been having better rounds again, today. The only real frustrations were fellas packing the UMP-45. I unlocked the M416 but haven't had a chance to use it much.

30-30 is the repeater that won the west. Sure their are better/stronger rounds. I agree. But with a good well placed shot its enough for most common game......Truth of the matter is you have to be a better shot with a 30-30 then you do say a 30.06 ;) Its all shot placement. Your brother proved it.

With that being said I carry a 30.06 pump. AKA Gamemaster.

http://www.icollector.com/images/1206/19521/19521_0636_1_lg.jpg

DannibusX

Oct 3, 2011, 11:29 PM

TheMailMan78

Oct 3, 2011, 11:31 PM

Springfield M1903A4 for me.

I like bolt for competition but when I'm running down a white tail the bolt takes me off target. Everglades hunting means no tree stand. You gotta hit a small FAST deer.

1Kurgan1

Oct 3, 2011, 11:50 PM

You gotta hit a small FAST deer.

My weapon of choice... a car. Allows for off season hunting as well!

ShiBDiB

Oct 4, 2011, 12:06 AM

This beta is going to make me cancel my preorder just out of hate for metro

TheMailMan78

Oct 4, 2011, 12:07 AM

This beta is going to make me cancel my preorder just out of hate for metro

Then cancel it and STFU. Enough with the complaining from everyone.

MT Alex

Oct 4, 2011, 12:29 AM

30-30 is the repeater that won the west. Sure their are better/stronger rounds. I agree. But with a good well placed shot its enough for most common game......Truth of the matter is you have to be a better shot with a 30-30 then you do say a 30.06 ;) Its all shot placement. Your brother proved it.

It's not so much about shot placement here as distance to target, but yes, few rifles have shot more deer and Injuns as the old 30-30.

Husqvarna Imperial 7mm Mag, here. Triple beam mauser action. So damn nice.

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l540/mtalex73/23bd43bf605de45ae035cf0129f1f8e8.jpg

I have an old Springfield with the peep, too. You don't see many .30-06s or .270s around here, anymore. Once the magnum cartridges came out, they petered out.

GullyFoyle

Oct 4, 2011, 12:41 AM

New faq up on Battlelog (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/devblog/view/2826551898567590445)

FAQ
Why isn't there an amored vehicle on Op Metro?

There are no vehicles in Operarion Metro on any platform. For balance issues in the Alpha Trial, it was removed.

Changing display name?

If they have changed your ORIGIN name then your name on Battlelog will update as well but it will be a while before it does that and you'll need to play some games.

Worst case is that it won't show your new name until Retail when Battlelog will be cleared of BETA content and started fresh.

Patch please, to many aimbotters today!

A patch wouldn't remove aimbots or hacks.
Punkbuster is disabled during the Open BETA but we are monitoring what hacks are being used.

Battlefield 3 D3D Device Error Intel GMA 4500M.

Intel GMA 4500m is not supported. It only supports DirectX 10.0, not 10.1 which is the minimum requirements: http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield3/1/beta

[B]Your active soldier is not ready for duty?

Hi!

There is a problem with your Origin ID. You might try logging out from Battlelog and then logging back in. If that doesn't work then contact Origin support and they can help you.

Update from the team #7 is now up on Battlelog (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/devblog/view/2826551898687002285/)

By: zh1nt0 Posted: 17 hours ago 366 Comments
Today's first Battlelog update will go live at 09.00 CEST, that's in about 50 minutes. Downtime is expected to be up to 30 minutes. This affects Battlefield 3 PC Open Beta Online play.

Fixes include:

• Moderator icon has been added on the forums for moderators.
• Players with rank 45 will now recieve the correct icon on their stats page
• Improved the scroll handling in the Server Browser
• Added more patches for Leaderboards for Xbox 360 and PS3
• More accurate ping now shows up in the server browser
• More accurate number of players now show up in the server browser

Battlefieldo - BF3, A True Sequel to BF2? Yes (http://battlefieldo.com/bf3-true-sequel-conquest/)

Before reading this article, it’s necessary to watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbkjLeFHXsQ)

Ever since the announcement of Battlefield 3 at the start of 2011, DICE have been stating it as the true sequel to Battlefield 2. The franchise was built on large battles giving the player a wide selection of tools to use at their disposal. Ever since Battlefield 2, this has been somewhat unseen in the franchise. Many of us veteran to the series will never forget those large online battles on 1942's El Alamein or the dense frag-fest through the tight corridors of BF2's Strike at Karkand. With this being so far in the past, there is a high amount of scepticism on whether Battlefield 3 will not only bring back the Battlefield experience, but push it to the next level. Last week, Myself and our team had the chance to extensively play test Caspian Border on 64 player conquest mode. It was through this experience that I grasped the true essence of what Battlefield 3 will bring us.

At first glance, Caspian may look small but it’s far from that

Back around E3, EA/DICE released the first Multiplayer footage of Battlefield 3, showing the map Operation Metro (The map we all either Hate or Love at this point). Along with this was a playable demo. This small, infantry only level has been the mascot of Battlefield 3 to the public. Now I don’t want to be critical, but as a long term Battlefield Veteran (Hell I even played this series when it was called Codename Eagle), I feel this was a poor decision. Perhaps it was to show off the Infantry aspect to oogle the eyes of the Call of Duty players or make it a easier build to demo the base features, but needless to say it doesn’t hold through to what Battlefield is.

I was involved in the Alpha trial and I enjoyed Operation Metro quite a bit, but there was something missing in it. Like most of the community of gamers eagerly waiting the release of this game, clinging to any new video that is released, I was uncertain if Battlefield 3 would really be the true sequel to Battlefield 2. Once I stepped foot into Caspian Border, I knew this was indeed the Sequel I’ve been waiting years to play. There were Jets flying over head, the sound of tanks treads crumbling through trees in the distance and my squad mate saying voice commands like "There is a big fucking tank over there!"

See that bush soldier? Better prone there with your RPG because a big fucking tank is heading to your position!

With the Open Beta of Battlefield 3 released, there is a lot of complaints about Battlefield 3 from the community. I wanted to write this article to send the word out not to worry and be patient. Operation Metro on 32 player rush is not a true Battlefield 3 Experience in my honest opinion. Yes it has amazing weapon damage and tight infantry combat but playing Caspian Border was a totally different experience and is exactly what 90% of Battlefield fans are waiting for. It’s a shame that it wasn’t made the default Beta map. But perhaps that is due to server related issues.

Caspian Border is not even the largest map in Battlefield 3, and from playing it I was amazed at how huge it was. The flying area was almost triple to what the regular area was, making it easy to take your jet to the outskirts and line up a strafing run on an unsuspecting tank column. Even when on infantry, the level of detail with small rocky areas with grass and bushes was absolutely mind blowing. Whether you are in a helicopter, on foot or taking a flag with a tank you felt a role in this large battle going on. Playing the game on this map really made me admire the features. While you pull G’s on tight corners in the jet, your players breath can be heard heaving. When DICE says BF3 is about immersion, they’ve nailed it spot on. There was nothing more intense then watching a tank battle obliterate a nook of forest with a Cobra helicopter swooping in low to finish off those who survived.

For three days, EA/DICE had Caspian Border servers online for the PC Version. Now they are down and with only 10 days left in the Open Beta, there are hundreds of forum threads popping up for people wanting to get back into Caspian Border. At this point it seems unlikely that it will make a comeback, But I can’t help but hope it does because this map is a true example of what Battlefield 3 is. Having played it, I now even find it somewhat difficult to step back into Operation Metro, because that map makes Battlefield 3 feel like a shooter, rather then an all out battlefield. Although, the final release is only a little more then 3 weeks away. We will see what happens for the remainder of Open Beta. But if you are sceptical, don’t worry, Battlefield 3 really is the true sequel to Battlefield 2. It’s been well worth the wait.

HardOCP - Battlefield 3 Open Beta Performance and Image Quality (http://hardocp.com/article/2011/10/03/battlefield_3_open_beta_performance_image_quality/)

The limited time open beta for Battlefield 3 started last week, and we've spent some time with it. Performance is quite a wild ride in this beta, and it doesn't even have the full graphics the retail version will, but we'll examine it closely to show you how your video cards might stack up when Battlefield 3 finally launches in a few weeks.

Introduction

DICE's Battlefield franchise is one of the best know shooter series in PC gaming. Beginning in 2002 with the World War II shooter Battlefield 1942, the series has had at least six full-length games, several smaller downloadable games, and several expansion packs. In about three weeks, the next big title in the series, Battlefield 3, will be released. In lieu of a pre-release demo, EA has made access to a beta build of the game public. The beta began on September 29th and is set to end on October 10th.

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Battlefield 3 Public Beta

Though the code appears to be of early beta (or even alpha) quality, and it is missing some graphics features, the game is surprisingly demanding of processing horsepower, including CPU and GPU. We know the performance situation is very likely to change once the retail game is released, but we wanted to get some data and screenshots for our readers for the public beta.

The Technology

Battlefield 3 is powered by EA/DICE's Frostbite 2 engine. The PC version of the Frostbite 2 engine supports 64-bit processors and Microsoft's DirectX 11 technology. In fact, DirectX 9 is not supported at all, and so the game will not run in Windows XP. Battlefield 3, and its beta, require either Windows Vista or Windows 7.

Frostbite 2 and Battlefield 3 support such graphics features as tile-based deferred shading via DirectCompute, Morphological AA (MLAA) also via DirectCompute, radiosity lighting, bokeh depth of field (DoF), and ambient occlusion in both SSAO and HBAO formats. One of the most anticipated graphical features of the game is its supposedly more realistically destructible environments.

We will have more detailed information when the retail game launches. For now, what is important is that (1.) Battlefield 3's premium platform is the PC, (2.) Frostbite 2 is native to DirectX 11 on the PC, and (3.) this public beta is one of the most graphically demanding DX11 games we've seen in a while.

Test Setup

For our test system platform we are using an ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution motherboard with an Intel Core i7 920 overclocked to 3.6GHz, and 6GB of Corsair DDR3-1600. For the power supply, we will be using a CoolerMaster Real Power Pro 1250W.

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For all three NVIDIA-based video cards in this evaluation, we are using NVIDIA's GeForce/ION Driver 285.38 Beta package, dated 26 September 2011. For the three AMD-based video cards in this evaluation, we are using AMD's Catalyst 11.10 Preview driver package, dated 26 September August 2011. These driver versions were specifically launched to improve performance in the BF3 open beta.

Performance Testing

Performance in the BF3 open beta varies to a great extent. The two available maps are large, and performance can vary significantly between one part of either map and any other part. Thus, testing the BF3 open beta was a tremendously frustrating experience. Due to the nature of this being a multiplayer only map without the full-game's features, we were unable to reproduce a testing run with anything remotely resembling consistency. In the end, we were forced to just play the game for a while on each video card while adjusting settings to make sure it was playable everywhere we tested to find the highest playable settings in the maps offered.

For this process, we chose to focus on the "Operation Métro" map. Taking place in Paris, France, this map focuses on Paris' famed Métropolitain rapid transit system. While it focuses on the mostly-underground trains, it also takes us to wide open parks and narrower urban corridors. To record performance, we played for about 7 minutes, recording framerates with FRAPS, looking for an average framerate between 38 and 42. This envelope will likely change for the full version of the game, since it will have more graphics features. For now, within a few FPS of 40 is where we were looking to be.

In general, the subterranean areas seem to perform better than the above-ground areas. It's not consistent though, as there are sometimes large firefights underground which can drag performance down. The game seems to also enjoy randomly spawning players underground regardless of whether or not that is where the action is. All of these things make performance testing in the beta a bit frustrating to get the most consistent results.

Highest Playable Settings

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The BF3 open beta was playable on the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 at 2560x1600 with 16X AF, no AA, and mostly Ultra settings. We did have to disable motion blur and reduce the shadows setting to medium, but other detail settings were left at Ultra. In disabling MSAA, we also disabled "Post AA", which is MLAA.

The Radeon HD 6970 performed similarly. At 2560x1600, we disabled MSAA and MLAA, as well as motion blur in order to bring framerates up to an average of about 40 FPS and make the game playable. With the HD 6970, we did not have to lower the shadow quality setting. Both of these video cards gave us very high framerates at 1920x1200 with 4X MSAA and maximum in-game settings selected.

The GeForce GTX 570 and the AMD Radeon HD 6950 were both playable with 4X MSAA, Medium "Post AA" (MLAA), 16X AF and Ultra settings at 1920x1200. We didn't have to disable motion blur or change the shadow quality setting for either of these two video cards at this resolution.

Running at 1680x1050 was not a challenge for either the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti or the AMD Radeon HD 6870. They were both playable at that resolution with maximum in-game settings at a very high level of performance. For our highest playable settings, we chose to increase the resolution to 1920x1200 and tweak settings from there. Neither of these two inexpensive video cards was playable in the entire test level with maximum settings at 1920x1200, so we had to disable MSAA and MLAA on both. With the GeForce GTX 560 Ti installed, we also had to disable motion blur. With the Radeon HD 6870, disabling AA was all we had to do to make the game playable at 1920x1200 with Ultra in-game settings selected.

Individual Performance

Because we were not able to reproduce the same (or even similar) testing procedure for each video card, performance graphs will be presented individually for each of our six video cards. All of these graphs represent data gathered using each video card's respective highest playable settings, as described in the table above.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580

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With mostly Ultra settings selected and AA disabled at 2560x1600, performance was relatively smooth with the GeForce GTX 580. We saw an average FPS very close to our 40 FPS target, and it only dipped below 30 slightly and infrequently.

AMD Radeon HD 6970

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Like with the GeForce GTX 580, performance dipped below 30 FPS infrequently with the Radeon HD 6970. Our average FPS was higher here, but that doesn't mean much with performance as unpredictable as it is in this beta.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570

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The GeForce GTX 570 ran beautifully at 1920x1200 with Ultra settings selected. Choosing Ultra automatically enables 4X MSAA and Medium Post AA (but you have to restart the game to see those changes). Framerates rarely dipped below 30 FPS, and when they did, it wasn't far. Our average was within 1 FPS of where we wanted to be, as we spent most of this test above ground.

AMD Radeon HD 6950

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The Radeon HD 6950 performed a little better than the GeForce GTX 570, though it is hard to be conclusive about it given the state of this beta. We didn't see a single drop below 30 FPS during testing with Ultra settings @ 1920x1200 using the HD 6950.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti

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The GeForce GTX 560 Ti was the most challenged video card in this test. At 1920x1200, we had to disable AA and Motion Blur, but other settings were left at Ultra. We saw occasional dips below 30 FPS. Our average framerate was acceptable and the gameplay experience was smooth enough, so we were not compelled to reduce settings any further.

AMD Radeon HD 6870

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Again, the AMD video card in this price segment had slightly better performance than the NVIDIA counterpart. The Radeon HD 6870 was playable with Ultra settings at 1920x1200, but we had to disable AA, including both MSAA and MLAA. Framerate dips below 30 FPS were rare, but they did happen. Our average framerate was right in target, and the resulting gameplay was very smooth and enjoyable.

Image Quality

We were unable to take screenshots with any degree of consistency due to the unpredictable nature of the game and its spawning system. Add to that that we have to restart the game to apply some settings, and side-by-side comparisons have proven to be practically impossible to acquire in the BF3 open beta. For this image quality section, we are going to show you a collection of screenshots at various in-game setting levels. We'll look at Ultra, High, Medium, and Low. The following linked images are JPEG compressed to save bandwidth, but we used high quality compression. We aren't after fine detail in these screenshots as much as we are after a comparison of the overall visual experience the different graphics levels provide. We will have a more in-depth look at image quality in the full version game evaluation.

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Image Quality Analysis

The most obvious difference here is the color tone. With Ultra and High selected, the color is washed out somewhat in the bright sun. There is a lower level of contrast with Ultra and High selected than with Low and Medium. Looking at the third image in each series, we can also see that there is a difference in the Depth of Field quality. In ultra, the focused area is clear and well-defined. In high, some clarity is lost in the focused part of the image. With medium selected, it is hard to tell what is supposed to be in focus. Finally, with low selected, depth of field appears not to be enabled at all. The character has just been hit, but the resulting blurred screen did not happen as it did with medium, high, or ultra selected.

Beyond those differences, anti-aliasing is a big issue. With ultra selected, 4X MSAA and Medium MLAA is enabled. Going down to high disabled MSAA but keeps MLAA at medium. Selecting medium moves MLAA down to low, and selecting low disables MLAA. This is a game that benefits a great deal from anti-aliasing. Unlike Battlefield: Bad Company 2, it appears that anti-aliasing happens after the HDR stage of post-processing. Some gamers will recall that aliasing is nearly defeated by HDR in BFBC2. Edges that appear in front of bright light sources would appear jagged and as if AA is ignoring them. In the BF3 beta, that problem doesn't happen. Of course different people have difference levels of sensitivity to aliasing, but we found that AA was quite welcome and effective in the BF3 beta. We will, of course, have a lot more information and analysis on AA in Battlefield 3 when the full game launches.

Beta Is As Beta Does

Wow, does this game ever feel and behave like a beta. Though we played for several hours, we were hard-pressed to find results even remotely consistent, even with the same video card installed. First we'd get spawned in the underground train stations and get our settings adjusted. Then we'd spawn out in the open and have to adjust them again. It took a significant amount of going back-and-forth between different servers through several different rounds to make sure each video card was tested on all relevant parts of the Operation Metro map. That is also excluding the many crashed and random disconnects we experienced, and the fact that we had to restart the game client on purpose several times for each test so that we could adjust settings for the sake of tuning performance.

At the end of the testing day, the impression we are left with is that performance was so inconsistent, it actually seems rather hard to predict how the full version game will behave. We know that some graphics features are missing in the beta client, and we know that a great deal of content is missing as well. This game looks like it is going to be of a simply tremendous scale. We are certainly anxious to see what the retail build will look like. It almost certainly has to be better. As unstable and flaky as the beta client has been for us, it is hard to imagine having a more frustrating experience.

The Bottom Line

Performance in the Battlefield 3 public beta inconsistent. The multiplayer nature of the beta made it impractical to objectively compare performance between video cards, but we did see some relatively repetitive behavior among video card brands. In general, we had better performance using video cards equipped with AMD GPUs than we did with NVIDIA GPUs. We downloaded the newest beta drivers from both GPU makers specifically released for this game. We tested each video card thoroughly, and the results with AMD video cards were faster, but not by much in this open beta.

On the official BF3 Blog, EA/DICE staffer Joe Ellis pointed out that "The beta won’t include all the graphics features which will make it in the final version". When the final retail build is released, everything we've seen so far could be turned around completely. But for now, single-GPU gamers with AMD Radeon HD 6000 series video cards will probably see slightly better performance than gamers with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 500 series counterparts.

<Follow the original link to see all the charts and graphs which accompany the article>

Videos of the day:

Battlefield 3 - Flying Tanks On Caspian Border [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHReq_rICrA)
BF3 - beta Jet gameplay (watch for re-genning health) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QolujkE94p0)
Battlefield 3 Beta MAV Massacre! (Roadkills + C4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKj5I_2R6yY&hd=1)

WarhammerTX

Oct 4, 2011, 12:58 AM

It's not so much about shot placement here as distance to target, but yes, few rifles have shot more deer and Injuns as the old 30-30.

Husqvarna Imperial 7mm Mag, here. Triple beam mauser action. So damn nice.

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l540/mtalex73/23bd43bf605de45ae035cf0129f1f8e8.jpg

I have an old Springfield with the peep, too. You don't see many .30-06s or .270s around here, anymore. Once the magnum cartridges came out, they petered out.

Nice

1Kurgan1

Oct 4, 2011, 01:05 AM

This beta is going to make me cancel my preorder just out of hate for metro

Have you ever played in a beta before? It's for testing and getting a general idea of the game. And if you have fun, play till your heart is content. But since many things are not available in betas, don't sit and grind it if you are no longer having fun. Because if you do, you will get a bad opinion of the game, and usually once someone has a bad opinion of a game, it's impossible to go back.

Personal example for me is Age of Conan. Played it in Beta loved it, played it at release and loved it. But around level 50 quests were few and far between. So I started a new character to give them time to patch in new ones. Made it to 60 with that character and finally just couldn't grind anymore. AoC has seen tons of improvements since then, and reading about it I love it. but when I go back it just lacks fun, simply because of my previous experience. Since then, I do not sit and grind games that are starting to lose that fun factor.

ShiBDiB

Oct 4, 2011, 01:48 AM

Have you ever played in a beta before? It's for testing and getting a general idea of the game. And if you have fun, play till your heart is content. But since many things are not available in betas, don't sit and grind it if you are no longer having fun. Because if you do, you will get a bad opinion of the game, and usually once someone has a bad opinion of a game, it's impossible to go back.

Personal example for me is Age of Conan. Played it in Beta loved it, played it at release and loved it. But around level 50 quests were few and far between. So I started a new character to give them time to patch in new ones. Made it to 60 with that character and finally just couldn't grind anymore. AoC has seen tons of improvements since then, and reading about it I love it. but when I go back it just lacks fun, simply because of my previous experience. Since then, I do not sit and grind games that are starting to lose that fun factor.

This isnt even a "Beta" tho. It's a stress test/demo promo free play etc..

I've beta tested many games where you report bugs in a bugtracker and are in direct contact with developers, that is a beta. This is what the ill informed see as a beta but in reality is part stress test and mostly a pr stunt

TheMailMan78

Oct 4, 2011, 02:17 AM

DanishDevil

Oct 4, 2011, 02:18 AM

Just got a collateral with the SV98 :)

EastCoasthandle

Oct 4, 2011, 02:20 AM

This person claims there is aim assets in the beta.
Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkErfHWs798&%3Bfeature=channel_video_title)

assaulter_99

Oct 4, 2011, 02:29 AM

So much sh*t nonsense going on about the beta, I thought I might share a good song with ya BF fans, just listen to it and relax some. Folks need it around here! You might wanna dlod it before it gets old!

*Dunno if its quite right to post this here, but since its been uploaded on Youtube, so why not?*

BF3 Song (http://www.filesonic.com/file/2305851631)

boise49ers

Oct 4, 2011, 02:53 AM

TRIPTEX_CAN

Oct 4, 2011, 02:59 AM

This beta is going to make me cancel my preorder just out of hate for metro

I hate Metro and Rush but I've learned to cope.

Scrizz

Oct 4, 2011, 03:10 AM

since the whole game is rush and on metro, I'm going to cancel my non-existent pre-order.....

I don't know many games that were bug-free and full-featured BEFORE release.....

EastCoasthandle

Oct 4, 2011, 03:45 AM

Here is a Beta Performance/IQ review (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/03/battlefield_3_open_beta_performance_image_quality) . This is using the latest drivers

johnspack

Oct 4, 2011, 04:13 AM

johnnyfiive

Oct 4, 2011, 04:16 AM

This isnt even a "Beta" tho. It's a stress test/demo promo free play etc..

I've beta tested many games where you report bugs in a bugtracker and are in direct contact with developers, that is a beta. This is what the ill informed see as a beta but in reality is part stress test and mostly a pr stunt

BF3 beta is not a "stress test/demo promo" at all. BF3 is a game that has a TON of multiplayer aspects that can't be fully evaluated by a staff of developers. This beta was solely to discover and fix multiplayer bugs/glitches, which is exactly what EA/DICE are doing. How unhappy would you be if the game were released with all these bugs players are experiencing? The ENTIRE point of a beta is to find issues and fix them before release. Be happy you get to enjoy the game early, and shush up already. :rockout:

DannibusX

Oct 4, 2011, 04:38 AM

Well, darn, didn't know the beta was multiplayer only. Have no idea about gameplay yet, so I'll probably get slaughtered as soon as I can actually get in a server. Had it for 2 days now, and still haven't even seen it yet! Must be awful darn good for so many to put up with so much!

In my opinion, it's awesome. It is buggy, there are balance issues. All in all, it's a great game and I'm not disappointed with the $60 I put down on it. I'll be playing on day one.

Hopefully PunkBuster is ready by then.

johnspack

Oct 4, 2011, 04:40 AM

Ug, do you have to be in the dam game to set options? I finally got in a server, was trying to set up graphics and key bindings, and get shot before I can finish. Frustrating....

f22a4bandit

Oct 4, 2011, 04:53 AM

Ug, do you have to be in the dam game to set options? I finally got in a server, was trying to set up graphics and key bindings, and get shot before I can finish. Frustrating....

Yeah, it's very annoying, but hopefully that's something that is tweaked for the final release.

I enjoyed the time I've put into it, but I'm going to wait for the full release now. I just didn't like waiting an obnoxious amount of time to join a server, and the map became boring for me very quick. However, the five minutes I was able to play on Caspian Border was enjoyable, albeit short-lived.

mastrdrver

Oct 4, 2011, 05:39 AM

This person claims there is aim assets in the beta.
Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkErfHWs798&%3Bfeature=channel_video_title)

Then mine must be broken because I don't have that "problem". Never once.

1Kurgan1

Oct 4, 2011, 06:52 AM

This isnt even a "Beta" tho. It's a stress test/demo promo free play etc..

I've beta tested many games where you report bugs in a bugtracker and are in direct contact with developers, that is a beta. This is what the ill informed see as a beta but in reality is part stress test and mostly a pr stunt

Thats what everyone thinks of every beta now days. They see a bug, throw their arms in the air and judge the final game for it. If you are doubting the purchase, cancel your pre-order and wait for reviews to see if bugs have been squashed. But a beta is a beta, it is not a demo, so they don't call it a demo. And now days it seems to many people just jump into a beta as a demo for the game.

crazyeyesreaper

Oct 4, 2011, 06:55 AM

well why shouldnt they Kurgan?

look at RAGE its out NOW and its just as BUGGY as the BF3 BETA and its a full retail release

the reason ppl bitch is because 99% of the time the problems in the beta REMAIN once the game is released and take forever for most developers to fix. or the Dev takes shortcuts to get the job done and it mucks it up worse

good example

BC2 + MOH hit detection remember that little short cut? that dicked everyone over took months for it to be back pedaled and fixed even then they only got it back to the way it originally was lolz

1Kurgan1

Oct 4, 2011, 07:00 AM

BC2 hit detection was fine at launch, somehow it got worse later, though I to this day never had a problem with it. People can be afraid of what they want, I might get struck by lightning, so I will never go outside again. I've played in a lot of Betas and almost all of the bugs have been fixed, nothing is ever perfect, and if you expect it to be, life will be a disappointment in all regards. I go by the policy, expect the worst, hope for the best, and I'm happy with most of the games I get most of the time. Also did RAGE even have a public beta? If not, how is that a decent comparison?

crazyeyesreaper

Oct 4, 2011, 07:06 AM

its a perfect comparison to how people percieve things

everyone expects Carmack to walk on water but he and his studio released a pile of shit lol

point is kurgan and you well know most day 1 issues that should be fixed usually are not, huge game breaking bugs get carried over from Beta's all the time that shouldnt have made it to Final release game, thats the point im making

i recognize its a beta i see theres issues, my problem is most of those issues will exist in the final release and take months to patch out regardless of what Dice wants to say, lol

i mean hell took them 6-7 months to fix a memory leak to stop the Realtek audio crashing the game, when it comes to BC2 lol if they cant fix an issue thats integral to the game actually running and takes 6-7 months i as a consumer am worried mostly because the state of software gets worse year over year with more focus on release now patch later but patches dont come,

how about i remind you of Sabotuoer or w.e ATI issues that were notorious with that EA title instead of truly fixing it they release a fix so the game runs like ass and then fire the entire studio so theres no one left to ever patch said game,

DICE might be huge they might be in higher standing yes there only testing battlelog, dosent mean i cant be completely 100% concerned with the rampant hacking, and god weapons, hit detection changes that punish users like me ;)

there are many issues i can tell already that wont ever be resolved in the game so im stuck dealing with poor design decisions. a Beta might be a Beta but usually underlying mechanics and base code seldom changes ;)

1Kurgan1

Oct 4, 2011, 07:27 AM

I don't see it as a good comparison, because I don't see Carmack as a god. The guys smart, made some great games, but he can't mimic a public beta stress test. To compare it to a game in beta(BF3) that hasn't released, that bugs are being fixed for. To a release game(RAGE) that had no public beta and landed with bugs, it doesn't make a ton of sense. It's like saying you can compare cars to planes because both move forward.

And yep, sometimes annoying hard to fix bugs make it through at launch. But having played a lot of betas, I realize this isn't just a DICE specific thing. Even right now I am overall happy with BF3, I dislike instant death from bullets. But otherwise, everything else is pretty minor, select-able squads and weapon tuning (granted I hope they do look at this a bit). Also remember, a lot of issues you have are specific to servers in different locations in the US.

I don't hold DICE on a pedestal, or anyone else, and I look at this realistically. And realistically, beyond the client side hit detection, I think most other issues will be fixed with the game. Thats the only stand out that I see not being so simple. But like I said, this isn't just a DICE thing, almost any MP game that releases has it's own set of issues. And it seems people just want to scream that its specific to DICE, and it isn't.

crazyeyesreaper

Oct 4, 2011, 07:42 AM

HammerON

Oct 4, 2011, 07:47 AM

I have played the Beta for over an hour and have enjoyed it! I believe that they are looking at what cheaters will do, testing how Battlelog will work and seek info on bugs with different systems. ATI and Nvidia are taking notes as they will be called to task. However you feel about this game in Beta should be somewhat reserved for the final release.
This game is different as it is played in a browser and I am really annoyed at the fact that I cannot change graphic settings unless in a match:(

1Kurgan1

Oct 4, 2011, 08:26 AM

no its not dice specific but come on hit detection has ALWAYS been a problem with dice for years haha

my point is kurgan just as youj said the problem is through out the entire industry

it dosent MATTER if theres a beta, when there is one the full realse of the game is still just as buggy, ;) it does get fixed just not nearly as quick as they say it will lol thats my key point ive no reason to believe BF3 wont be a great game in due time

but by look at at the past and BC2, using the same basic engine they took a step backwards added crap that was needed and broke something that WASNT broken to begin with.

people are bitching because the things that needed to change for the better did not, and thats the hang up. for the most part

Easy fix for hit detection is laser bullets like COD. And honestly, I would rather have them try at real bullet physics and fail than to play with that shit. But if they do that people won't be happy, no one is every happy no matter what the choices are.

The maps are bigger, the kits are better, there are jets. All things people wanted, I would not call that a step backwards in any way shape or form. But people always look for the negative, rather than the things that make them happy.

johnspack

Oct 4, 2011, 08:42 AM

Well, I learned my lesson. Wait for final release stupid! Why get sucked into betas...... It has to get better.

FreedomEclipse

Oct 4, 2011, 11:05 AM

The maps are bigger, the kits are better, there are jets. All things people wanted, I would not call that a step backwards in any way shape or form. But people always look for the negative, rather than the things that make them happy.

Bigger maps make me happy.
Jets make me happy
BF3 the sequel to BF2 in general makes me happy

but like other people said already. there are underlying problems with the game that make any forward progression of the game more like 2 steps back.

Squad management and an ingame server browser are very important things and they have a negative effect as the only way your gonna be able to play with your friends or clan all in the same squad is if you localise it to the same team and use teamspeak or ventrillo to communicate while you spawn on random people who might not even being doing fuck all but being a bush wookie because hes in your squad and you cant kick him or invite your friends into it. - the original squad management system didnt need to be fixed. they could have ran with the one from BF2 and no-one would complain. theyve just made things stupid and overly complicated when it doesnt need to be.

Ingame server browers - fine. its something we can all live without, but not having to quit the game just to search for games would be better. Its like theyve taken some critical things out of the game just so they can promote battlelog. and theres nothing you can do about it because battlelog is integrated into and part of the game.

the list goes on. but those are meerly minor niggles with the game that will no doubt hopefully be fixed in the final product.

Horrux

Oct 4, 2011, 11:44 AM

This person claims there is aim assets in the beta.
Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkErfHWs798&%3Bfeature=channel_video_title)

Wow, that is completely nuts.

GullyFoyle

Oct 4, 2011, 11:47 AM

Planet Battefield - Battlefield 3 Gridiron Episode 1 & Rapper "Game" BF3 Concert (http://planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/fullstory.php?id=165487)

Monday, 3 October, 2011 at 23:44 PST | ^Scott^ | Print News
Earlier today a video appeared on the official Battlefield YouTube channel called Battlefield 3 Gridiron Episode 1. This looks to be a new series of videos featuring NFL players: Drew Brees, Jared Allen, Clay Mathews and Larry Fitzgerald who are all being put through some type of Battlefield 3 training program with Navy Seal: Team 6. The end of the video states:

Watch Spike TV on Monday, October 24th at Midnight eastern / 11 central for the premiere of GTTV presents Battlefield 3: Operation Gridiron

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Speaking of odd celebrity and Battlefield 3 match ups...the Battlefield Facebook page announces "The Rapper "Game" and Battlefield 3 Live Concert".
Battlefield 3 and The Game are teaming up on a cross- country concert tour.

The first concert will be live streamed from Kansas State University on Wednesday, October 5th @ 10 PM ET.

Click "I'm Attending" if you plan to watch the concert live streamed on the Battlefield Facebook page and invite your friends to the event.

1Kurgan1

Oct 4, 2011, 11:53 AM

Squad management and an ingame server browser are very important things and they have a negative effect as the only way your gonna be able to play with your friends or clan all in the same squad is if you localise it to the same team and use teamspeak or ventrillo to communicate while you spawn on random people who might not even being doing fuck all but being a bush wookie because hes in your squad and you cant kick him or invite your friends into it. - the original squad management system didnt need to be fixed. they could have ran with the one from BF2 and no-one would complain. theyve just made things stupid and overly complicated when it doesnt need to be.

Ingame server browers - fine. its something we can all live without, but not having to quit the game just to search for games would be better. Its like theyve taken some critical things out of the game just so they can promote battlelog. and theres nothing you can do about it because battlelog is integrated into and part of the game.

the list goes on. but those are meerly minor niggles with the game that will no doubt hopefully be fixed in the final product.

In the beta you can't change hotkeys, even though it allows you to open the option to assign a new one. I haven't seen any official announcement on not being able to change squads (though maybe one is out there), and until I do I won't go around throwing a fit and assuming the sky is falling like everyone else tends to do. It's the beta, they are allowing us to test the things they want us to test.

Beyond that and hit detection, Battlelog is fine, there won't be an ingame option as it would just kill off Battlelog. There really isn't any other huge complaints, so I can't see how that is a step backwards, especially since BC2 already had hit detection issues. You couldn't search for servers in BC2 without leaving a game, now thats all of a sudden a big deal for BF3? I'm not sure what list you are talking about that goes on with huge bugs.

As far as it being a true sequel to BF2, all that seems to have done is promote camping, and that isn't a good thing.

**EDIT**
Playing and searching for servers right now at the sametime.
http://img.techpowerup.org/111004/Capture137.jpg

caleb

Oct 4, 2011, 12:09 PM

For me they just need to fix the squads and its fkn ggz.

AlienIsGOD

Oct 4, 2011, 12:12 PM

For me they just need to fix the squads and its fkn ggz.

Ya, I agree. Squad changing in-game and its g2g IMO. I like the beta so far and havent been "raped" for the most part. Gonna try to squeeze in a pre order on the 20th and get the collectors edition stuffzors.

For GFX, would 2 6790s work good or should I go 6850/70 and another in several months?

brandonwh64

Oct 4, 2011, 12:41 PM

I must say, battlelog is growing on me, as kurgan mentioned, you can browse servers when in game just hit ALT+Enter and find what you want then click launch game and it will close your current game and start a new one and pretty quickly too. Also I was upset with the game going windowed after each round but actually it helps if you want to check your stats and such. the only thing I can see if that they need to allow battlelog to be access through shift+F1 in game to make alittle easier.

Found an interesting bug last night when playing with the guys. Laughing man got the CORPSE bug and it was so funny! He looked dead but he was alive and you can see him shoot a couple of times. I kept trying to revive him and I was like "highway, Y U NO COME BACK TO LIFE" and he started wondering why I was asking HAHA

M1WG7ynfU4A

TheMailMan78

Oct 4, 2011, 01:18 PM

Also I was upset with the game going windowed after each round but actually it helps if you want to check your stats and such.

Mine doesnt do this anymore. I played with the window settings and it seem to fix the issue.

brandonwh64

Oct 4, 2011, 01:26 PM

Mine doesnt do this anymore. I played with the window settings and it seem to fix the issue.

Hmmm maybe there is or will be a setting for this. I don't mind it now tho. I just hit alt+enter to go back full screen but its great if you want to look for a new server, browse stats, or check email while the 35 second wait time.

Frick

Oct 4, 2011, 01:43 PM

Hmmm maybe there is or will be a setting for this. I don't mind it now tho. I just hit alt+enter to go back full screen but its great if you want to look for a new server, browse stats, or check email while the 35 second wait time.

You have to set the settings to full screen.

Anyway, it runs flawlessly now. :)

1Kurgan1

Oct 4, 2011, 01:45 PM

There is a setting for it, you can turn on Full Screen mode. Or maybe it's turn off Windowed Mode, either way same end result. It's one of the first things I did when I setup the beta.

brandonwh64

Oct 4, 2011, 01:47 PM

Wished my laptop I use at work would play BF3 beta but its got a wimpy ATI X1400 DX9 :(

Recus

Oct 4, 2011, 01:57 PM

Here is a Beta Performance/IQ review (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/03/battlefield_3_open_beta_performance_image_quality) . This is using the latest drivers

They are trolling as always.

results with AMD video cards were faster

single-GPU gamers with AMD Radeon HD 6000 series video cards will probably see slightly better performance than gamers with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 500 series counterparts

http://www.techspot.com/review/448-battlefield-3-beta-performance/
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Battlefield-3-Beta-Performance-Testing-and-Image-Quality-Evaluation-Day-1
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/gaming-software/13498
http://gamegpu.ru/Action-/-FPS-/-TPS/Battlefield-3-Beta-test-GPU.html
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,847209/Battlefield-3-Beta-18-Radeon-and-Geforce-cards-SLI-und-Crossfire-benchmarked/Practice/

brandonwh64

Oct 4, 2011, 02:01 PM

They are trolling as always.

How would you know?

http://troll.me/images/xzibit-yo-dawg/yo-dawg-i-herd-u-like-trolling-so-im-trolling-your-troll.jpg

caleb

Oct 4, 2011, 02:35 PM

How would you know?

He quoted 5 benchmarks?
Stop the retarded picture spam.

Scrizz

Oct 4, 2011, 02:53 PM

Stop the retarded picture spam.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8112/lolumad.jpg

brandonwh64

Oct 4, 2011, 03:00 PM

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/yeah-he-mad-10160.jpg
http://www.whiners.pro/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/he-mad.png

Wrigleyvillain

Oct 4, 2011, 03:22 PM

Yeah the pics are getting fucking annoying.

brandonwh64

Oct 4, 2011, 03:24 PM

Yeah the pics are getting fucking annoying.

http://littlestorieseverywhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/negative-nancy_thumb2.jpeg