Diablo III Clubhouse

[Urlyin]

Got a friend request from a spammer today. I reported it to Blizzard. Dunno how he got my name because I never joined any public games before.

Yeah same here but have gotten them like 4 or 5 times now...

[entropy13]

I got a request from a spammer after I accidentally typed something in the General channel, instead of to an actual friend. I just entered the incomplete message which consists of two letters. LOL Back then I forgot to leave the General channel (as it was auto-join by default).

[D007]

I got nothing but time man. Not gonna pay real money for any item in this game.

U said it.. I don't pay to win..
Why buy a game then pay for the items to enjoy it? I buy the game to earn the itmes myself..
That's like buying a game then paying to be max level.. Why buy the game in the first place if not to play it? lol.

We are fast approaching a day where everyone gets tired of this flavor of the month pay to win forumla.. It's not going to be fun forever, when all the games amount to is logging in, paying for everything and becoming an insta god, who just posts pictures of himself online, or stands in a corner and goes afk for 23 out of 24 hours a day, thinking you look cool.. That gets really old really fast..

Use to be a day when a killboard or leaderboard showed your skill, now it only shows how much money you're willing to fork out.

[NinkobEi]

I just want to beat the game on Inferno with every class, then I can sell all of my gear and quit for good. By that time gear will be down to reasonable prices, like $1 for an awesome piece. At that time, Diablo 3 will be the best $43.85 (-other items I sell) I've ever spent.

[HTC]

I think i found a good ring:

http://img.techpowerup.org/120622/2012-06-22_220329.jpg

Any idea of value? I'm thinking 5 million +: maybe much more, dunno :(

Can't access RMAH just yet :(


It's amazing how, even toned down, AS still benefits: even with 173 intelligence on that ring and it still doesn't beat the dmg on the 71 intelligence / 7 AS magic ring.

[TheMailMan78]

when all the games amount to is logging in, paying for everything and becoming an insta god, who just posts pictures of himself online, or stands in a corner and goes afk for 23 out of 24 hours a day, thinking you look cool.. .

You just described Facebook.

[Cold Storm]

You just described Facebook.


TPU needs their own FB game...

[NinkobEi]

I think i found a good ring:

http://img.techpowerup.org/120622/2012-06-22_220329.jpg

Any idea of value? I'm thinking 5 million +: maybe much more, dunno :(

Can't access RMAH just yet :(


It's amazing how, even toned down, AS still benefits: even with 173 intelligence on that ring and it still doesn't beat the dmg on the 71 intelligence / 7 AS magic ring.

It's a $20-30 ring, should sell pretty easily. I sold a similar one for $20, might have gotten more for it. I had it posted for $40 but it never sold.

[HTC]

It's a $20-30 ring, should sell pretty easily. I sold a similar one for $20, might have gotten more for it. I had it posted for $40 but it never sold.

Can't access RMAH @ all: dunno why :(

Trying to sell it @ GAH for 6 million to 33 million: let's see how it goes.

[n-ster]

try setting an authenticator on the blizzard website

also, I'm still 59 LMAO

[Mussels]

got a bunch of random spammer requests myself, reported and blocked them all. i dont even have mine listed here on TPU for this exact reason, but i still got hit.

[lyndonguitar]

got a bunch of random spammer requests myself, reported and blocked them all. i dont even have mine listed here on TPU for this exact reason, but i still got hit.

The same guys are adding me a couple of times now and I keep on blocking/reporting them, Why don't they get banned at all, is what bothers me.

[n-ster]

Thanks for the play tonight AsRock and Urylin ;) FINALLY 60!!! My Act 1 Inferno build is complete. With sparkflint and prysmatic here are my stats:

http://img.techpowerup.org/120623/Screenshot004.jpg

Once I save up for new gear, I wonder what type of build I should go with... My cousin went with a nice mix of all res, vitality, int and especially crit damage and crit chance... but thats expensive lol

[entropy13]

Finally my buy-and-sell is working :laugh:

Bought the two items from the AH for 25k and 30k gold, and sold them for 40k and 50k respectively LOL.

[Delta6326]

Thanks for the play tonight AsRock and Urylin ;) FINALLY 60!!! My Act 1 Inferno build is complete. With sparkflint and prysmatic here are my stats:

http://img.techpowerup.org/120623/Screenshot004.jpg

Once I save up for new gear, I wonder what type of build I should go with... My cousin went with a nice mix of all res, vitality, int and especially crit damage and crit chance... but thats expensive lol

Thats weak look at my awesome Starter......Lol JK
http://img.techpowerup.org/120623/Capture100.jpg

[Mussels]

lol @ wirts leg

[Delta6326]

Ive spent almost 24hours in this game and I just have the starter edition all i do is farm gold and item I just spent over 100K gold on slots for my Stash and LVL 4 Blacksmith and I have over 250 things to make items for BS and a lot of Rare parts too.

Once I get the full game Im just going to farm items and I can give them to you guys :D

[HTC]

Just found out why i can't get my RMAH working:

Please keep in mind that players will only have access to the real-money auction house while playing in their home region. That means that, for characters created outside of your home region, items cannot be bought or sold in any real-money auction house.

Since i'm playing in The Americas, that's why i can't, it seems.

Funny enough, when i created my char, it was in Europe and it was moved by Blizzard to The Americas: :banghead:

[1Kurgan1]

I think i found a good ring:

http://img.techpowerup.org/120622/2012-06-22_220329.jpg

Any idea of value? I'm thinking 5 million +: maybe much more, dunno :(

Can't access RMAH just yet :(


It's amazing how, even toned down, AS still benefits: even with 173 intelligence on that ring and it still doesn't beat the dmg on the 71 intelligence / 7 AS magic ring.

Thats a super good ring, though I would be surprised to see it going for 6 million, though it does have very high int. I would think 3 - 4 million, but hopefully you get the 6.

[HTC]

Thats a super good ring, though I would be surprised to see it going for 6 million, though it does have very high int. I would think 3 - 4 million, but hopefully you get the 6.

It hasn't got any bids yet so, if it doesn't get sold, i'll try again with a min bid price of 3.5 million instead.

[1Kurgan1]

It hasn't got any bids yet so, if it doesn't get sold, i'll try again with a min bid price of 3.5 million instead.

Have you checked to see what similar stated rings go for? I have a 118int, 106 vit, 22 resist all ring that didn't even go for 300k, but yours has a good amount more resist all on it.

[HTC]

Have you checked to see what similar stated rings go for? I have a 118int, 106 vit, 22 resist all ring that didn't even go for 300k, but yours has a good amount more resist all on it.

I did: prices were all over the place :(

This ring also has armor, though not much!

[bostonbuddy]

yeah prices seem all over in the ah, makes it hard to price stuff

[Kreij]

I'm starting to think it's more about visibility than pricing. I've put really good gear up for like 5K and no one touched it. :/

Anyway, I got sick of fiddling with all the crap in my stash and sold it to the first vendor.
Time to start over and be more selective in what I keep as it will just be for passing off to friends.
I'll just use the GAH to buy items I'm sick of farming (like tomes) when I need some extras.

[HossHuge]

Thought you guys might be interested in this.

just over a month after the release of Diablo III, a pro player has managed to complete the game on its hardest setting.

Toronto-based Kripparrian posted a video on YouTube showing the hard fight against Diablo - the ultimate boss in the game.

To make the task harder, Kripparrian used the game's "hard core" setting which left little room for error.

The achievement has been confirmed by the game's developer, Blizzard .

The hugely popular Diablo III game casts players in the role of a hero who has to save the mythical world of Sanctuary from a demonic invasion.

Kripparrian made this job as hard as possible by playing the game's Inferno mode which makes in-game enemies much tougher.

In addition, he used a "hard core" character. This meant that, if the character died once, the game would be over. He also got in-game help from another player called Krippi.


http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18532670

[Mussels]

inferno in hardcore beaten? jesus

[HTC]

Thought you guys might be interested in this.




http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18532670

inferno in hardcore beaten? jesus

Damn impressive, IMO!!!

[entropy13]

Yay! The item I bought (weeks ago) for 50k finally got sold, for 76.5k! :laugh:


And looks like there are three people with level 60's trying to bring Mussels to level 60 right now. LOL

[3870x2]

I think that I have sold the most expensive pair of Boj Anglers: 1 million. They dropped in a3 nightmare.

I don't remember the stats, but they were probably BiS before the IAS nerf.

[Mussels]

Yay! The item I bought (weeks ago) for 50k finally got sold, for 76.5k! :laugh:


And looks like there are three people with level 60's trying to bring Mussels to level 60 right now. LOL

im tagging along for the XP while they farm


*ahem*


AH FEEL SO SQUEESHY

[Kreij]

And looks like there are three people with level 60's trying to bring Mussels to level 60 right now. LOL

im tagging along for the XP while they farm


*ahem*


AH FEEL SO SQUEESHY

Actually, I just started the game to do a little farming. Then Mussels, ASRock and Lyndon jumped in and the good times rolled. :D

Mussels, you do well, you just need more protection (res, vit, whatever).
I try to stay close to you because if I cast heal on myself (whether I need it or not) anyone in range gets it too. Plus my healing mantra constantly heals you if in range.
That's not always possible when I'm running for my life too. :roll:

I do pretty well until the !@#$ arcane sentries start to drop. They chew me up like a lawmower in seconds. Nothing else is that lethal to me (poison, fire, etc.).
I admit my resists aren't so great.
About 350 on all ,using the monk perk that makes them all equal to the highest one and with my healing buff up.

If we were all on TS or Vent every time, it would help A LOT !!

[HTC]

Well you have to remember that having all that stacked ias gave a very large advantage to any ranged class. You had incredible kiting ability. Also acts 2/3/4 now do quite a bit less damage so you don't have to go as glass cannon as you did before. You can take a few hits :) (that's right i see you with your 9K life)

Better look again, dude: i have a "tad bit less".

http://img.techpowerup.org/120623/2012-06-23_172012.jpg

Figure it's the same because of the skills i'm using: storm armor with the rune that doesn't allow more then 35% dmg taken per hit and familiar with the guardian rune which absorbs 1 full attack every 6 seconds whenever i'm below 35% life.

Still, before the patch, i managed to get Zulle's head but i had to avoid the elites for it. After the patch, i can't get to Zulle's head: those disappearing / reappearing monsters :(

[entropy13]

AH FEEL SO SQUEESHY

Yeah, you died while the elites were already dead. :laugh:

You also joined Azmodan in dying. :laugh:

[lyndonguitar]

Thanks to everyone who played with me earlier, especially AsRock and his friend who helped my Barb finish Act I.

Also While playing with Mussels we found Deckard Cain dancing like crazy lol.

I made a short Video
zAFjA0d-pU4

[Black Haru]

Better look again, dude: i have a "tad bit less".

http://img.techpowerup.org/120623/2012-06-23_172012.jpg

Figure it's the same because of the skills i'm using: storm armor with the rune that doesn't allow more then 35% dmg taken per hit and familiar with the guardian rune which absorbs 1 full attack every 6 seconds whenever i'm below 35% life.

Still, before the patch, i managed to get Zulle's head but i had to avoid the elites for it. After the patch, i can't get to Zulle's head: those disappearing / reappearing monsters :(

That force armor time only absorbs up to your max life. It was patched to nerf that build.

[AsRock]

Thanks to everyone who played with me earlier, especially AsRock and his wife who helped my Barb finish Act I.

Also While playing with Mussels we found Deckard Cain dancing like crazy lol.

I made a short Video
zAFjA0d-pU4

corrected ;).

[1Kurgan1]

Better look again, dude: i have a "tad bit less".

http://img.techpowerup.org/120623/2012-06-23_172012.jpg

Figure it's the same because of the skills i'm using: storm armor with the rune that doesn't allow more then 35% dmg taken per hit and familiar with the guardian rune which absorbs 1 full attack every 6 seconds whenever i'm below 35% life.

Still, before the patch, i managed to get Zulle's head but i had to avoid the elites for it. After the patch, i can't get to Zulle's head: those disappearing / reappearing monsters :(

That force armor time only absorbs up to your max life. It was patched to nerf that build.

Yeah like Haru said, you can't run the low life build anymore. It only absorbs up to 35% of your life now. So if you have 10k hp it will only absorb like 3500. Even with 30k HP on my Wizz in Inferno I still get 1 shot in Act 3 by almost anything even running Force Armor.

[bbmarley]

i stoped using force armor and went to prismatic when they nerfd it lol

[NinkobEi]

Yeah like Haru said, you can't run the low life build anymore. It only absorbs up to 35% of your life now. So if you have 10k hp it will only absorb like 3500. Even with 30k HP on my Wizz in Inferno I still get 1 shot in Act 3 by almost anything even running Force Armor.

Tip: build all resistances along with the force armor. it really helps. The worst thing for me to face in act 1 is the baby spiders. they hit like a truck and usually end up with 2-3 on you. and they are fast. My guy can actually take quite a few hits from elite mobs and survive, only around 25k hp

[1Kurgan1]

Tip: build all resistances along with the force armor. it really helps. The worst thing for me to face in act 1 is the baby spiders. they hit like a truck and usually end up with 2-3 on you. and they are fast. My guy can actually take quite a few hits from elite mobs and survive, only around 25k hp

I got resistances and force armor, I haven't played my Wizz since the patch, things have been nerfed now, so I probably wouldn't get hit so hard. I was at something like 30k hp, 46k dps, and 300 resist all before the patch on him. Just been enjoying the Barb recently.

[Mussels]

If we were all on TS or Vent every time, it would help A LOT !!

i'm always in my own TS server, i just dont like giving it out to everyone since i've got limited bandwidth here


Thanks to everyone who played with me earlier, especially AsRock and his friend who helped my Barb finish Act I.

Also While playing with Mussels we found Deckard Cain dancing like crazy lol.

I made a short Video
zAFjA0d-pU4


damn, my epic "STOP! HAMMERTIME!" wasnt in that video

[1Kurgan1]

It seems the shuffling opinion is a pretty large trends, lol. I wonder who posted the first video.

http://img.techpowerup.org/120624/Capture008.jpg

[Kreij]

i'm always in my own TS server, i just dont like giving it out to everyone since i've got limited bandwidth here

I loaded up a Vent server and set the limit to 5 users (I think. lol)
It needs to be tested so if you have a few moments, Mussels, let me know and I'll PM you the address/port.

[lyndonguitar]

Did you guys see this, LOL

oaRcjgMGgfY

[Mussels]

I loaded up a Vent server and set the limit to 5 users (I think. lol)
It needs to be tested so if you have a few moments, Mussels, let me know and I'll PM you the address/port.

i dont have vent, hate its UI. i'm a TS3 man through and through.

[Kreij]

I guess that since you just have to set it up once and not bother with it after that the GUI is pretty meaningless. Start, one click, your on.
I have both clients on my machine.

[Ross211]

Made my second RMAH transaction. $23.99 Battlenet richer :rockout:

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t215/rmartin311/Diablo%203/Screenshot002.jpg

I can't get over making moneys off this game :roll:

[HTC]

That force armor time only absorbs up to your max life. It was patched to nerf that build.

I thought it was supposed to make it so that it would take 3 hits minimum to kill you as opposed to 1.

Yeah like Haru said, you can't run the low life build anymore. It only absorbs up to 35% of your life now. So if you have 10k hp it will only absorb like 3500. Even with 30k HP on my Wizz in Inferno I still get 1 shot in Act 3 by almost anything even running Force Armor.

Without prismatic armor, i have around 60 all res: with it, i have a bit more.

In any case, i changed my weapon for one with better dmg / vita and now i have ~13K life.

[digibucc]

I think that I have sold the most expensive pair of Boj Anglers

anyone else read that as Bo Jangles the first time?

[Zubasa]

Did you guys see this, LOL
I bet he is driven mad by the new Repair Bills :laugh:
Anyways I am on my way to 60 on the US servers, I just couldn't stand how fucked up the Asia Servers are anymore.
Screw 10x AH prices and 10min latency on the AH :shadedshu

[1Kurgan1]

anyone else read that as Bo Jangles the first time?

Ufgy calls them the Bo Janglers :laugh: Just another Easter Egg.

[ufgy20]

No i call the Bo Jangles. like Mr Bo Jangles.

[HTC]

Ufgy calls them the Bo Janglers :laugh: Just another Easter Egg.

There are plenty of those: i have 2 pages from the Black Rock (ship from the show lost): #4 and #23. Still dunno how to use them!

[Mussels]

There are plenty of those: i have 2 pages from the Black Rock (ship from the show lost): #4 and #23. Still dunno how to use them!

we cant, yet. reference to the show lost.


knowing blizz, there might be another secret level relating to them one day.

[HalfAHertz]

How do you guys manage to survive in act 2 of infermo? my WD has 650+ resists ~5k armor and 30k life I am still finding it difficult :/

[1Kurgan1]

No i call the Bo Jangles. like Mr Bo Jangles.

I've seen you say it both ways, maybe was a confusion between Mr and the Easter Egg name, I SEEN IT (with my ears).

There are plenty of those: i have 2 pages from the Black Rock (ship from the show lost): #4 and #23. Still dunno how to use them!

Yeah I got one of those pages too, tempted to throw it out since it's just a LOST Easter Egg and does nothing even if you have them all.

[NinkobEi]

How do you guys manage to survive in act 2 of infermo? my WD has 650+ resists ~5k armor and 30k life I am still finding it difficult :/

There is your problem. :roll:
Just kidding. If you're solo, are you using a follower? Kiting seems like it would be really tough for a WD. Not s ure if they have any (quality) movement slowing effects.

[HTC]

How do you guys manage to survive in act 2 of infermo? my WD has 650+ resists ~5k armor and 30k life I am still finding it difficult :/

I have between 772 and 828 resistances to the various elements and 7340 armor (70.99% dmg reduction from enemies of same lvl as me) and have nearly 27K DPS. That's with storm armor prismatic rune, btw.

Managed to get to the hunt for Zulle's blood area. Either my tactics are way off or my gear sucks for inferno: possibly both ...

[entropy13]

I'm making a lot of gold selling gems in the AH. :laugh:

You'll be at a loss if you start making Star gems though.

[TheMailMan78]

http://img.techpowerup.org/120624/Screenshot000.jpg

[entropy13]

So...you've unlocked Inferno, and then died?

[TheMailMan78]

So...you've unlocked Inferno, and then died?

Pretty much.

[1Kurgan1]

So...you've unlocked Inferno, and then died?

Meh Act 1 is a cake walk now, and with a bit of AHing and the right spec Act 2+ (even as a Barb, though spec really matters here) is pretty easy.

[n-ster]

Act 1 I one or 2 shot almost every normal monster, but elite packs are still very annoying, and I get about 4 shot. For example, I got a fast wall molten mortar in th spider cave, and I could only survive the first wall, next time I get cornered, walled before CD off tele is down, and even a pot cant save me, and no room to kite in that cave...

I do have 27+K life. Should I be looking for more vita or resistances or armor? I have about 4.5K armor and 500 all res with prismatic (and 31.5K dps with my 2H that I found... I'm liking 2H :p)

[HTC]

Act 1 I one or 2 shot almost every normal monster, but elite packs are still very annoying, and I get about 4 shot. For example, I got a fast wall molten mortar in th spider cave, and I could only survive the first wall, next time I get cornered, walled before CD off tele is down, and even a pot cant save me, and no room to kite in that cave...

I do have 27+K life. Should I be looking for more vita or resistances or armor? I have about 4.5K armor and 500 all res with prismatic (and 31.5K dps with my 2H that I found... I'm liking 2H :p)

I have over 700 all res and over 7000 armor (with storm armor prismatic rune) and i manage to do act 1 quite well now: with the exception of a few elites, i rarely die now.

Act 2 is a whole new ball game and i've made it as far as Kulle's blood searching area but i've had to run away from some elites in order to do that because, although i tried many times, i couldn't kill them: specially them disappearing / reappearing monsters!

[n-ster]

is it worth it to have that much armor res? because they do have diminishing returns... add me, NSTER#1691, I wanna inspect you lol

[NinkobEi]

is it worth it to have that much armor res? because they do have diminishing returns... add me, NSTER#1691, I wanna inspect you lol

Mobs outside of act1 are higher than level 60, so the diminishing returns are lessened. All of your defense calcs are based on even level mobs.

[magibeg]

How do you guys manage to survive in act 2 of infermo? my WD has 650+ resists ~5k armor and 30k life I am still finding it difficult :/

My barb just goes around doing whatever in act 2 usually. 1.1K+ resists, 12.5K armor, 46K life.

[Kreij]

@Magibeg : Getting closer. I only need 79,828,000 more gold to buy you that weapon. :D

[Mussels]

anyone online feel like helping me level to 60?

[Zubasa]

is it worth it to have that much armor res? because they do have diminishing returns... add me, NSTER#1691, I wanna inspect you lol
Its is, the DR is only there to prevent armor and resist from getting stronger and stronger per point the more you stack it.
Basically you still live twice as long with 7000 armor compare to 3500 armor. This is also true with resist.
Its your so called effective health that is not diminishing.

[Csokis]

First Set! :)

http://i.imgur.com/cDe6k.jpg

[entropy13]

anyone online feel like helping me level to 60?

I'm helping two friends atm LOL

[NinkobEi]

First Set! :)

http://i.imgur.com/cDe6k.jpg

Not terrible. If it had 200-300 more damage it would be incredible. At least it has the right stats!

[Mussels]

so i made it to level 59 before finishing tonight, and doubled my DPS (to 5.6K)


finally progressing!

[AsRock]

so i made it to level 59 before finishing tonight, and doubled my DPS (to 5.6K)


finally progressing!

I guess i missed ya, o well maybe catch ya on the flip side.

[NinkobEi]

so i made it to level 59 before finishing tonight, and doubled my DPS (to 5.6K)


finally progressing!

I find that running the first part of act 3 up to siegebreaker is the best way to gain exp. The first 2 parts especially, because each catapult quest is worth quite a bit of XP. But it gets boring running the same thing.

[digibucc]

im only 54 - almost 55. leveling is much faster than i would have expected at later levels... still, i am guessing my gear is not up to par as i die more than i think i should...

[n-ster]

I'm guessing I'm not up to par, as I die a lot even though I get 4hit

I'll try to stack more armor n resists then... Has anyone tried melee wizards? I'm curious if they work well

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

Has anyone tried melee wizards? I'm curious if they work well
Why? With that amount of longevity, I'd still rather go ranged. Would probably bump your longevity even more as opposed being in close proximity.

[n-ster]

I'm just curious as I've seen many melee builds on the forums etc.

[bbmarley]

Why? With that amount of longevity, I'd still rather go ranged. Would probably bump your longevity even more as opposed being in close proximity.

ye they do if you have the gear ,you can pretty much stun lock mobs with nova have diamond skin always up, it was fun being able to just stand in front of a boss or pack of rares not having to worryy about getting carpel tunnel

i dont have the gear for it but i just picked up a crap wep and only had 600loh and was able to do a butcher run at similer pace i normaly do with my current build
so i can imagine getting the recomended 1800 loh and 1k resist being like a baws

i found it pretty fun as i lv up wiz with a melee build but that didnt work when i got to inferno

this is the build i use on my wiz atmo
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#bcQRSO!YXU!bYZbZc

[n-ster]

OMFGGGGGGGGGG THIS IS SUCH BS

I cant do 1/2 the elite packs in act 2... just vortex molten extra health I cant do... and they the "fallen" type of monster. I hit the enrage timer and now its even more impossible

20K repair bill for nothing... I'm literally losing money in Act 2 everytime I play... WHAT THE FUCK?!

I went from 17K to 80K in Act 1, I went from 80 to 90 to 50K in Act 2.. That is including selling items,salvaging etc

I'm raging...

pots cost a lot, is there any way around that? hmm interesting http://www.diablo3team.com/?p=241

[1Kurgan1]

OMFGGGGGGGGGG THIS IS SUCH BS

I cant do 1/2 the elite packs in act 2... just vortex molten extra health I cant do... and they the "fallen" type of monster. I hit the enrage timer and now its even more impossible

20K repair bill for nothing... I'm literally losing money in Act 2 everytime I play... WHAT THE FUCK?!

I went from 17K to 80K in Act 1, I went from 80 to 90 to 50K in Act 2.. That is including selling items,salvaging etc

I'm raging...

pots cost a lot, is there any way around that? hmm interesting http://www.diablo3team.com/?p=241

find a nice small rock and make sure to use teleport (fracture, the clones will distract the mobs allowing your VH pools to have tick time) to skip across the rock when you need to, running illusionist will help as well.

[n-ster]

I found this in Act 1, idk how much its worth but I know its worth a good amount... I crafted 3 perfect square emeralds to make it even more juicy :p which means 249 dex 151 vit... I wish it had 1 more dex LOL

http://img.techpowerup.org/120625/Capture012.png

from the RMAH, it looks like I may be able to set it around 15~20$? in the GAH idk though... any ideas? or maybe buyers? :p

[Kreij]

I see similar items (including the gems) in the GAH for 1.5M gold.
I have no idea what it would bring in the RMAH.

[douglatins]

I found this in Act 1, idk how much its worth but I know its worth a good amount... I crafted 3 perfect square emeralds to make it even more juicy :p which means 249 dex 151 vit... I wish it had 1 more dex LOL

http://img.techpowerup.org/120625/Capture012.png

from the RMAH, it looks like I may be able to set it around 18~20$? in the GAH idk though... any ideas? or maybe buyers? :p

I don't think that is great, reason is, for DH no disc, so nope. For monks missing all resist.

So under 1M

[HTC]

No wonder i'm having trouble selling my "uber" ring (attachments): if i look for the item for a wizard, it's on page 36 but, if i look for it with my char, it's the very last item on the last page :banghead:

The stats on this ring make it worthy of being on ... say ... one of the 1st 10 pages, no?

It's this ring (the rare one):

http://img.techpowerup.org/120622/2012-06-22_220329.jpg

[bostonbuddy]

got 1mil, gonna try and get either a helm, shoulders, or gloves stacking res, vital and stregnth

[DannibusX]

The group I usually play with got to Ghom on Act III Inferno last night. All I gotta say is, good lord man!

Dude's a serious gear check, 36 million health with 4 players. Time to farm some more.

[Zubasa]

The group I usually play with got to Ghom on Act III Inferno last night. All I gotta say is, good lord man!

Dude's a serious gear check, 36 million health with 4 players. Time to farm some more.
After I got pass Ghom on my DH, Azmodan was a joke ;)
I did Ghom pre-1.03 though so I don't know did they buff him?

[mav2000]

Trying to get the shin bone from leorics manor, but even after close to 15-20 tries am still not able to see it in the fireplace. I usually start the game and go to the leoric's manor waypoint and work my way back from there. AM I doing something wrong?

[bostonbuddy]

nope keep grinding away

[entropy13]

Well, I'm towards the end of Act 1 at least, would just have to go through the Hall of Agony levels, and that means the Jailer and the Butcher. I just have 12k DPS, 33k HP, 500 resists though.

[Mussels]

Trying to get the shin bone from leorics manor, but even after close to 15-20 tries am still not able to see it in the fireplace. I usually start the game and go to the leoric's manor waypoint and work my way back from there. AM I doing something wrong?

what difficulty? i made the mistake of trying to collect them for upgrading the staff, when it turned out you dont need the parts again

[bostonbuddy]

Well, I'm towards the end of Act 1 at least, would just have to go through the Hall of Agony levels, and that means the Jailer and the Butcher. I just have 12k DPS, 33k HP, 500 resists though.

nice res, def a neccessity as apposed to hell

[DannibusX]

After I got pass Ghom on my DH, Azmodan was a joke ;)
I did Ghom pre-1.03 though so I don't know did they buff him?

He throws gas clouds at players and they don't dissipate. I have read a lot about it post patch, a lot of people are saying it's bugged but I'm not so sure.

[mav2000]

what difficulty? i made the mistake of trying to collect them for upgrading the staff, when it turned out you dont need the parts again

AM on Hell now, Act 1 and already geting whipped by a lot of the chain and molten guys....running a Barb. BTW, this is the first ime I am trying to collect the parts.

[Mussels]

AM on Hell now, Act 1 and already geting whipped by a lot of the chain and molten guys....running a Barb. BTW, this is the first ime I am trying to collect the parts.

get them in normal difficulty. you only pay gold to upgrade the staff to use it for later difficulties, so they may not spawn.

[entropy13]

Finally got the Liquid Rainbow, so I can now make the Staff of Herding. I don't have enough gold for the Hell-level of it though. :laugh:

[AsRock]

Finally got the Liquid Rainbow, so I can now make the Staff of Herding. I don't have enough gold for the Hell-level of it though. :laugh:

Yeah it kinda expensive, after the patch though i quit playing their as they nerfed it big time :(.

[HTC]

Yeah it kinda expensive, after the patch though i quit playing their as they nerfed it big time :(.

I tried it a bunch of times (pre patch) but never got even a nice item, let along a good one.

Haven't tried after patch, yet.

[pr0n Inspector]

http://img.techpowerup.org/120626/Screenshot003.jpg


BWAHAHAHA THE GODS STRIKE THROUGH ME!

[Kreij]

Patch day !

We will be performing scheduled maintenance for Diablo III starting tomorrow at 5:00 a.m. PDT in order to deploy patch 1.0.3a. We anticipate that maintenance will conclude and that all services will be available by approximately 7:00 a.m. PDT. Patch notes are available below.

The latest client patch notes can be found here.
Visit our Bug Report forum for a list of known issues.
The most recent hotfixes can be found here.

Classes
■Witch Doctor
◦Bug Fixes
◦Zombie Charger
◦Skill Rune – Zombie Bears
◦Fixed a bug where Zombie Bears were unable to attack targets on slopes
◦Zombie Bears should no longer become stuck on objects with which they shouldn’t have collision

Items
General
■Equipped items will now take “wear-and-tear” durability damage at half the previous rate
■Please note that durability loss as the result of normal combat is different from the 10% durability loss characters will incur when they die. Equipped items have always suffered durability loss while fighting, and we are simply slowing the rate at which the loss occurs.

Bug Fixes
■Fixed a bug that was causing Unique monsters to not drop the appropriate amount of loot when slain
■Fixed a bug with linking items with 3 gem sockets
■It is no longer possible to create fake achievement links

Bug Fixes
General
■Fixed a bug that was causing the “Switch Hero” button to occasionally disappear after leaving a game while in town
■Fixed several gold and leveling exploits
■Fixed several game and service crashes (for Mac and PC)

[AsRock]

I tried it a bunch of times (pre patch) but never got even a nice item, let along a good one.

Haven't tried after patch, yet.

Well clouds used to always drop blue but they don't any more..

Patch day !

Maybe your game will not crash no more :).

[Kreij]

Since I've been playing D3 the game has CTD'd three times and froze/locked-up once (in well over 100 hours of play).
Not sure why as it follows no particular pattern (ie. long play sessions, particular locations, 4x players, lots of on-screen mobs, etc.)

[Zubasa]

Since I've been playing D3 the game has CTD'd three times and froze/locked-up once (in well over 100 hours of play).
Not sure why as it follows no particular pattern (ie. long play sessions, particular locations, 4x players, lots of on-screen mobs, etc.)
I got game freezes and gpu crashes even though I checked many times that my card isn't over heating :shadedshu
Only thing that stops it is to enable v-sync.
Blizzard games tend to run poorly on AMD/Ati cards from some weird reason.

[digibucc]

Blizzard games tend to run poorly on AMD/Ati cards from some weird reason.

that's entirely subjective - i'm using a 5850 and have put in more than 100 hours with no crashes or freezing. just saying. max graphics, vsync on, no oc.

[TheMailMan78]

Since I've been playing D3 the game has CTD'd three times and froze/locked-up once (in well over 100 hours of play).
Not sure why as it follows no particular pattern (ie. long play sessions, particular locations, 4x players, lots of on-screen mobs, etc.)

Have you checked the event viewer to find out what EXACTLY is causing the issue?

[Mussels]

that's entirely subjective - i'm using a 5850 and have put in more than 100 hours with no crashes or freezing. just saying. max graphics, vsync on, no oc.

same, but 5870+5850 crossfire. my laptop with its 6 series APU is also fine, and my girlfriends 8800GT also fine.


if you're crashing, i'd suspect the system. ESPECIALLY if vsync stops the problems (somethings overheating, RAM, VRM's, VRAM, etc)

[Kreij]

I was about to say the same thing, Digi. The game runs well (other than occasional server lag) on my Xfired pair.

Max graphics, v-Sync on, no OC as well.

@TMM : It happens so seldom I've not bothered with it. Yeah, pure laziness.

[TheMailMan78]

I was about to say the same thing, Digi. The game runs well (other than occasional server lag) on my Xfired pair.

Max graphics, v-Sync on, no OC as well.

@TMM : It happens so seldom I've not bothered with it. Yeah, pure laziness.

Pfft. Get off your lazy ass! You act as if you are going through cemo or something. THIS IS DIABLO SON!! ITS GOTTA BE STABLE! :laugh:

[Kreij]

Lol ... one crash every ~50 hours? That's pretty stable.
Now that I think about it, it only crashes when TMM is on-line. :wtf: :laugh:

Could be something in the background that kicks in at just the right time to cause it to go south.

[Zubasa]

same, but 5870+5850 crossfire. my laptop with its 6 series APU is also fine, and my girlfriends 8800GT also fine.


if you're crashing, i'd suspect the system. ESPECIALLY if vsync stops the problems (somethings overheating, RAM, VRM's, VRAM, etc)
When I said runs poorly I mean the performance not stability ;)
Funny thing is the card runs fine on furmark, Unigne, WoW and Starcraft... Diablo 3 seems like the only thing that causes problems :confused:

[TheMailMan78]

If I turn off V-Sync the game stutters like crazy. So I just leave it on in game. Its not an FPS so mouse lag isnt an issue.

[Zubasa]

Yeah the frame rates jumps up and down like crazy if I turn off the fps limiter and v-sync.
Its not like I get consistent crashing either it crashes like once in hours.

[Kreij]

Interesting Zub. I have v-sync on (no fps limiter) and the FPS is always at 60 (when the darn game doesn't report zero FPS. lol)

US server back up, AH down at the moment.

[entropy13]

Diablo III has never crashed for me.


First elite encountered in Act II Inferno: Waller/Jailer/Molten/Shielding Lacuni Huntress elites

NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE

[NinkobEi]

Diablo III has never crashed for me.


First elite encountered in Act II Inferno: Waller/Jailer/Molten/Shielding Lacuni Huntress elites

NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE

skip act 2 entirely > ??? > profit :roll:

[HTC]

Had one crash so far but was checking the AH @ the time (????).

Other then that, no probs, with my A3850 APU, and i play @ 1920 /1080, btw: not max settings, obviously.

Diablo III has never crashed for me.


First elite encountered in Act II Inferno: Waller/Jailer/Molten/Shielding Lacuni Huntress elites

NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE

I have problems against those frog like elites, lacuni elites and those disappearing elites in act 2, thus far.

[TheMailMan78]

Got to Inferno this week. Think Im gonna uninstall soon. Its got plain stupid at this point.

[digibucc]

Got to Inferno this week. Think Im gonna uninstall soon. Its got plain stupid at this point.

just keep running into that brick wall, eventually it'll stop hurting so much. and then just maybe you'll get a drop that allows you to get to the next brick wall ;)

I'm not even there yet, so i have no room to speak. just screwing around :)

[ZenZimZaliben]

Got to Inferno this week. Think Im gonna uninstall soon. Its got plain stupid at this point.

LOL. It will only get worse...

Act 1 is a steep mountain hike.
Act 2 is a Jagged Ocean Cliff with inverted ledges and a rope.
Act 3 is Grand Canyon with lava on the bottom and no safety gear or rope and you have to wear wooden clogs while your backpack is filled with lead ingots.

And I haven't made it to act 4 yet, but I hear it's not as big as a jump as was 2 - 3. Haven't really pushed for act 4 because everything I have read all the good drops are on 2/3.

I just started the War Machines quest, so I am about done with act III.

[Urlyin]

meh pretty lame if you ask me... kill Diablo on Hell Mode and I get.... wait for it ....three cheap ass blues I can't even use... wtf I just killed the last boss and I get jack :shadedshu... real disappointed and to top it off I had to use a wep ASRock loaned me and a shield that was given to by Kreij... one legendary for a class I don't even stinkin play along the way, sure I know I need to grind and farm more but still on da boss? really? k.. rant done need cheese to go with my whine :laugh:

[ZenZimZaliben]

meh pretty lame if you ask me... kill Diablo on Hell Mode and I get.... wait for it ....three cheap ass blues I can't even use... wtf I just killed the last boss and I get jack :shadedshu... real disappointed and to top it off I had to use a wep ASRock loaned me and a shield that was given to by Kreij... one legendary for a class I don't even stinkin play along the way, sure I know I need to grind and farm more but still on da boss? really? k.. rant done need cheese to go with my whine :laugh:

See your problem is you are not spending enough CASH in the RMAH. All your problems will be solved, so says Blizzard...So Say We All. :banghead:

[TheMailMan78]

meh pretty lame if you ask me... kill Diablo on Hell Mode and I get.... wait for it ....three cheap ass blues I can't even use... wtf I just killed the last boss and I get jack :shadedshu... real disappointed and to top it off I had to use a wep ASRock loaned me and a shield that was given to by Kreij... one legendary for a class I don't even stinkin play along the way, sure I know I need to grind and farm more but still on da boss? really? k.. rant done need cheese to go with my whine :laugh:

I got nothing but whites when I killed Diablo in Hell mode. Not even a single blue or yellow. Get to Inferno and get gang raped by zombies outside of the town. Solution? Spend real money to get weapons and armor in a game I have already beatin three times to beat it a fourth? Yeah um ok. Lame. Not gonna happen.

[ZenZimZaliben]

I got nothing but whites when I killed Diablo in Hell mode. Not even a single blue or yellow. Get to Inferno and get gang raped by zombies outside of the town. Solution? Spend real money to get weapons and armor in a game I have already beatin three times to beat it a fourth? Yeah um ok. Lame. Not gonna happen.

Just wondering. How many hours do you have in game with your main toon?

[TheMailMan78]

Just wondering. How many hours do you have in game with your main toon?

About 70 hours why?

[ZenZimZaliben]

Well I did do a lot of farming to get where I am at. Haven't spent a real dime, although I have spent millions in the AH. Just saying a lot of people expect to be able to crush inferno with their level 58 gear. The sad thing is you are going to have to play AH Tycoon, Grind or Buy shit to get where you want to be.

I was around 130 Hours when I completed Act 1 inferno, just giving you an idea of what sort of grind to expect. Of course you could get really lucky and get the awesome i63 gear to drop and sell it for a 100M gold.

Guess I'm just letting you know what it takes and what to expect. OF which you can say F'That Im done with this BS and everyone would totally understand. The grind and lack of rewards is a challenge for anyone to stomache.

[Kreij]

I can't even remember how many times I've run boss fights with people and have gotten nothing I can use (even with a 5 stack of NV). I would say about 99% of the time I get useless crap (or at best something to throw on the GAH for a little more gold).

I play because I have a couple of personal friends and lots of TPU buddies to have a good time dying with. Anyone who has played with me knows my strategy .. Charge !!! Run away !! Die. Laugh a lot. Repeat. (This has been my strategy for years in games and I'm sticking with it)

Me, AsRock and his wife (and a bit later Lyndon) were playing earlier today in inferno. Even though gold was dropping like rain, I made a grand total of about 2K after repair bills and item selling. I think I spent more time running back to the party from the checkpoints after dying than I did fighting mobs.

Who cares. I play games to have fun, and playing with you clowns is always a good time.

Got to Inferno this week. Think Im gonna uninstall soon. Its got plain stupid at this point.
If you can't take the heat it's always best to get out of the kitchen. :p

[cadaveca]

About 70 hours why?
I got 100, in the same boat. Perhaps we should strap our boats together, and sail off into the sunset...becuase we definitely ain't gonna get past Act I any time soon!

[ZenZimZaliben]

I am so happy others are now experiencing the inferno gear check. For a while there were only a handful of us. And yes Misery LOVES company (or at least I do). So welcome, welcome my frustrated friends. :)

I'm so stoked to read about all your first encounters with a 6 affix elites.

[TheMailMan78]

I am so happy others are now experiencing the inferno gear check. For a while there were only a handful of us. And yes Misery LOVES company (or at least I do). So welcome, welcome my frustrated friends. :)

I'm so stoked to read about all your first encounters with a 6 affix elites.

Screw that I'm starting a new demon hunter on normal.

[Kreij]

Screw that I'm starting a new demon hunter on normal.

Start a monk instead. You're more of a "get in their face" kind of guy, not a ranged player.
Besides, barbs and monks take 30% less damage than the other classes (or so it says in the tips that pop up).

[1Kurgan1]

Got to Inferno this week. Think Im gonna uninstall soon. Its got plain stupid at this point.

I got 100, in the same boat. Perhaps we should strap our boats together, and sail off into the sunset...becuase we definitely ain't gonna get past Act I any time soon!

If you guys moving into Act 1 want someone to run with, Me and Ufgy usually run just us 2 so there's room for 2 others and more drops to go around that'll be upgrades for people.

[Kreij]

I got a couple items from the AH to help. Bumped my life by about 10K, and resists held steady, but I lost some damage.
That's acceptable in inferno. Survivability is the key.

I got nothing but whites when I killed Diablo in Hell mode. Not even a single blue or yellow. Get to Inferno and get gang raped by zombies outside of the town. Solution? Spend real money to get weapons and armor in a game I have already beatin three times to beat it a fourth? Yeah um ok. Lame. Not gonna happen.

You don't have to spend real money in this game to get better. I will never buy anything from the RMAH and I'm slowly getting better.
It just takes time and patience.

It's definitely a different mindset in inferno and you will have to re-gear to survive.
You ain't in Kansas anymore, Boy. lol

[1Kurgan1]

Agree with all of what Kreij has said. Buying gear from the GAH will be your best friend in Inferno. So far I've maybe got a few upgrades while farming (but only one of them was amazing and I still wear). Everything else has been selling gear on the GAH and using that money to buy other gear. Act I in Inf on the Barb didn't bother me much when I got there after ab it of AHing. I did have to change up a few abilities, but my spec for the most part still worked. But moving into Act II was nigh impossible, champ groups were just unreal. This was as a mostly DPS build, I don't really want to put on a tank as a Barb (or if I do I don't want to be running 1 attack and the rest defensive abilities), so I put the Barb away and played my Wizzard till things changed. I ended up going back to my Barb before 1.0.3 because I found a viable DPS spec. It was even viable in Act II (just more of a kite build), but I stuck to Act I as I liked it's playstyle there better. After the nerf to the Acts though I have pushed into Act II just fine, even killed 4 different champ groups at once (though thats when I used the kite aspect of the build). After the nerf I'm enjoying the spec even more, though it's a bit on the complicated side to play.

But yeah you will need to get down a solid build plan, gear plan, and go from there to progress in Inf. To farm Act 1, it should be dirt cheap on the AH, items are so cheap now that were expensive before (I remember buying my 758 dps wand for like 450k, now I can't even sell it for 80k).

[Zubasa]

Start a monk instead. You're more of a "get in their face" kind of guy, not a ranged player.
Besides, barbs and monks take 30% less damage than the other classes (or so it says in the tips that pop up).
Only problem with that is Barbs and Monks requires way more gear to progress in inferno than the range classes. :respect:
To legitimately kill most elite packs on Act 3 inferno requires 10M gold worth of gear on a melee pre-1.03.

[1Kurgan1]

Only problem with that is Barbs and Monks requires way more gear to progress in inferno than the range classes. :respect:
To legitimately kill most elite packs on Act 3 inferno requires 10M gold worth of gear on a melee pre-1.03.

Just run with tornado babrb spec and that gear issue will go away, if you want to run that build and actually get in melee range, then yes you need to invest. I still don't think that gold gap is that large after the nerf though, even before the nerf. Sure you could get by with low cost itemization on ranged classes, but you either A) could never get hit or B) you took forever to kill everything.

[n-ster]

I found this in Act 1, idk how much its worth but I know its worth a good amount... I crafted 3 perfect square emeralds to make it even more juicy :p which means 249 dex 151 vit... I wish it had 1 more dex LOL

http://img.techpowerup.org/120625/Capture012.png

from the RMAH, it looks like I may be able to set it around 15~20$? in the GAH idk though... any ideas? or maybe buyers? :p

Sold for 19.80$ very very fast. Was the cheapest by 8~10$

[entropy13]

Buy and Sell is working well. :laugh:

Bought for 2527, sold for 93,500.
Bought for 15k, sold for 123,500.

[Delta6326]

...I'm still waiting for a good deal to buy D3 for cheaper than $60 to me its a $40-50 game.

Lol I've got over 100K gold... spending it all on bags lol

[DannibusX]

...I'm still waiting for a good deal to buy D3 for cheaper than $60 to me its a $40-50 game.

Lol I've got over 100K gold... spending it all on bags lol

That's unlikely to happen. Blizzard titles rarely go on sale, although Christmas is a possibility. I don't necessarily think it's a Blizzard thing though, look at the parent company.

[Urlyin]

well inferno is starting to suck a left nut just like Mailman said.... enjoy playing with the TPU crew though... think I'll try the Tornado spec like 1Kurgan1 suggested. I like playing with the mechanics of it especially working on skill sets to at least try to make something work a lil better...

[entropy13]

http://i.imgur.com/qghKK.jpg

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
LOLOLOLOLOL

[pr0n Inspector]

Buy and Sell is working well. :laugh:

Bought for 2527, sold for 93,500.
Bought for 15k, sold for 123,500.

Tried the adventuring life. Didn't care for it. Too much pain, not enough profit.

[Ross211]

Found my 4th legendary doing an act 1 inferno run with a buddy.

I found my most valuable item yet thus far... the rare gloves below in the snapshot :rockout:

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t215/rmartin311/Diablo%203/DiabloIII_2012_06_27_03_49_41_379.png

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t215/rmartin311/Diablo%203/DiabloIII_2012_06_27_03_50_03_560.png

Bul Kathos Wedding ring I found. I think I'm keeping it for when I start my Barbarian.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t215/rmartin311/Diablo%203/DiabloIII_2012_06_27_03_50_33_495.png

Here is where my wiz is at right now. I'm at 125k crits on average, I've seen 200k a few times now :D

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t215/rmartin311/Diablo%203/DiabloIII_2012_06_27_03_50_37_413.png

New toy for the wiz :rockout:

[damric]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-gbDtSpTmI0#

:toast:

[mav2000]

I hope someone makes a short post as to what all the shortforms mean....there are a whole lot I still dont understand and I am sur a lot of others dont as well.

Got the shin bone, rainbow and bell, now waiting to play again and get the last piece before going on to Iziul.

[Kreij]

What do you mean by "shortforms", mav?


I'm still trying to figure out how to price in the GAH.
It seems that if you underprice stuff it doesn't sell at all. It must be that people are searching by large buyout amounts and if you have a good item for cheap they never see it.
I think a lot of people have a good amount of gold and don't take the time to search for bargains?

[entropy13]

I'm still trying to figure out how to price in the GAH.
It seems that if you underprice stuff it doesn't sell at all. It must be that people are searching by large buyout amounts and if you have a good item for cheap they never see it.
I think a lot of people have a good amount of gold and don't take the time to search for bargains?

Yes. See the ones I mentioned in my "buy and sell"? I tried selling them for around 30k-50k, they didn't get sold.

[Mussels]

he means

Gold Auction House
Real Money Auction House

[Kreij]

he means

Gold Auction House
Real Money Auction House

Oh ... the acronyms we use. Sorry, must be a bit dull today. lol

AH = Auction House (usually refers to the gold action house)
GAH = Gold Auction House
RMAH = Real Money Auction House
RES = resistance or resurrection depending on the sentence
LoH = Life On Hit
LoK = Life On Kill
DPS = Damage Per Second
WTF = (should be obvious lol)
TMM = Our notorious member, TheMailMan78

@Mav, just ask if you don't understand what something means. We'll be happy to explain.

[ufgy20]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMailMan78
Got to Inferno this week. Think Im gonna uninstall soon. Its got plain stupid at this point.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
I got 100, in the same boat. Perhaps we should strap our boats together, and sail off into the sunset...becuase we definitely ain't gonna get past Act I any time soon!
If you guys moving into Act 1 want someone to run with, Me and Ufgy usually run just us 2 so there's room for 2 others and more drops to go around that'll be upgrades for people.

you guys should join us. would revive the game for you a bit. my monk can hold just about any pack together in Act 1. or move if its got a ton of AoE effects. would be cool to get a 4 man game going one of these nights

[lyndonguitar]

you guys should join us. would revive the game for you a bit. my monk can hold just about any pack together in Act 1. or move if its got a ton of AoE effects. would be cool to get a 4 man game going one of these nights

I wanna join too

just post here if you guys are playing ill try to join

[cadaveca]

you guys should join us. would revive the game for you a bit. my monk can hold just about any pack together in Act 1. or move if its got a ton of AoE effects. would be cool to get a 4 man game going one of these nights

It will be a week or so before I attempt to play any games. I'd love to join ya guys though...we play very well together on BF3, and I assume the same will be true on Diablo, too. By that time, it'll be me having to catch up!

I gotta ahve whatever I'm using to control things sitting on my lap. I have a wireless keyboard with mouse built into it that I am using right now, and playing BF3 with it is near impossible, but diablo might work. I'll have to give it a try when I get some time. For now, most of my time is devoted to getting reviews done...1/2-way done one, and three more waiting, while more stuff is inbound!

[1Kurgan1]

well inferno is starting to suck a left nut just like Mailman said.... enjoy playing with the TPU crew though... think I'll try the Tornado spec like 1Kurgan1 suggested. I like playing with the mechanics of it especially working on skill sets to at least try to make something work a lil better...

I suggest replacing Leap (Iron) with Furious Charge (Stamina). The build has a few weaknesses, and they are this.

A) The normal build has Fury starvation issues (both between pulls and initiating). It rely's on you using War Cry (to gain 30 fury), then using Battle Rage (consumes 20 Fury), then having a target available to Leap onto (gives you 15 Fury), which leaves you with only 5 extra Fury to hit Sprint with, which is a super small window, you need to hit 2, 3, 1, right click within about 3 - 4 seconds or you have lost that 5 fury window and now have to wait for Leap to come back off CD to start your loop. And waiting 10 seconds for Leap means Battle Rage only has 20 seconds left on the CD, so 2 more cooldowns of Leap and then Battle Rage needs to be refreshed. It's just a very anal build that has no room for error. (Also Sprint Tornado's sometimes bug and don't spawn, so the leap build if that happens you are forced to wait for leap cd, where as Furious charge you have enough Fury to go again).

B) Even playing this build perfectly, the build is a Life on Hit tank. I can stand in a good amount of shit (1300 LoH for Act 1 is plenty enough, I'm near 1900 now), but the only reason I can is because I'm gaining insane amounts of life. While Wrath of the Berserker is up everything is great, you should have no issues with anything, but if something does hit hard, or you end up running out of Wrath time, you now have to worry about Frozen, Jailer big time (especially if they have Desecrator). Because this build requires you to be moving to lay down Tornadoes for Life on Hit, Jailer just destroys this build, especially if they catch you while you are on AoE. And Leap doesn't break Jailer.

Good thing about both those being the problems of the build is.... one ability switch fixes 2 problems with 1 stone. Change out Leap to Furious Charge (Stamina). Furious Charge breaks out of Jailer and it hits harder than Leap does. Adding the Stamina buff to it now makes starting pulls and keeping that Fury bar pegged so much easier as well. I go War Cry, Battle Rage, then Furious Charge (if I hit 4 targets I now have 47 Fury compared to 25 of the Leap build). I can fly right in there and hit Sprint and still have enough Fury to Sprint again or I can start Whirlwinding instantly. The other change I've made is I run Inspiring Presence rather than Tough as Nails. Tough as Nails might have been a requirement post patch simply because things were very hard in Act 3+. But now you got a bit of room to move, picking up some constant health regen is nice, but the big bonus is Battle Rage now lasts 1 min and War Cry lasts 2 min (thats not a big deal since you spam it to gain fury). Having a larger time frame on War Cry is just amazing, it frees up a ton of Fury to use, and makes the build feel much better, you don't have to be constantly looking for enemys because your 30 second shouts going to wear off and you need Fury to refresh it. I'll do my War Cry and Battle Rage shouts in the middle of no where, simply because I don't even need them to generate Fury anymore to initiate, Furious charge hitting 1 target creates enough Fury to Sprint. Also Furious Charge is a better tank tool if you are DPS tanking for friends, when you hit targets it pops them up in the air. So if a runner is heading for your ranged squishys, just slam into the sucker and tell him no, gives your ranged time to move away and for you to entertain him some more.

You can try both builds if you like, but I highly suggest giving mine a shot, the small changes have a large effect. I liked the build to start with, but it felt clunky with Fury starvation issues, I toyed with it for 2 days before finally coming across this solution. Here's the entire build I run (I think if you wanted Weapons Master could go for something more defensive if you are at the gear check wall, then just pick up weapons master again when gear improves).
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#hUSkiP!ZYX!aZbcYc

Also bind move to something like spacebar, using click to move while having Whirlwind on left click does not work well once you have built Fury. It works well with no targets near, but in a target area it makes WW clunky, it likes to just attach to enemys. So I just move my mouse cursor and hold down spacebar and I whirlwind around with my character following my mouse. Overall, this build is weird, it requires management of CDs, has no real Fury generating attacks, it takes getting use to, so if Act 1 is difficult, practice with it in Act 3 or 4 on Hell Diff first.

[Urlyin]

Thanks for taking the time to brain dump 1Kurgan1 ... some real good tips in there :toast:. I think res is my biggest problem right now in inferno... I could overpower mobs and use rend and pots to keep HP up for elites in hell but in inferno its bing bang boom N-ster trips me and I'm dead ...:laugh: So gear is a big issue for me but I'm game to try a new spec and is part of the game I like toying with... been playing WOW for so long I keep wanting to kick the healer .. where is that guy... :slap:

[1Kurgan1]

No problem, I know a lot of people changed to that build so just figured I'd let others know my pains and solutions to the problems I found with it.

I ran into the same issue you had, Rend through Hell was amazing, but it's heal just wasn't enough to cut it for Inferno. I'd love to fit it in now that I got crazy Heal on Hit, but the build is so tight as it is not running a main attack and all there just isn't anything to cut, need whirlwind for more tornado's and movement through mobs. Let me know how it goes if you end up going for it.

Biggest thing for this build for Act 1 farming, 200 - 300 LoH weapons with a socket (for LoH gem), beyond that mild resists and you should be just fine. You won't be able to stand in as much, but the build kites well as well, so thats no problem. As you get more resists you can get more in the action and keep the Wrath buff going longer.

[Kreij]

I bought a couple of items with LoH. I made sure they had good vit so I didn't lose life, but I took a hit on damage and res.
I can fight longer now, but it gets tough when mobs start tossing out stuff that you need res for.
It's a tough juggling act using the AH on the cheap. :D

[ZenZimZaliben]

Played some really good games last night after spending 6M in AH, woke up this morning with 5M in sales. :rockout:

Found a pair of pants I couldn't pass up. 640 Armor, 2 socket, 80Int, 70Vit, 75 All Res. Only 1M. Sold my old pair for 2.5M.

With my EA/PA active my lowest RES is 1000 and highest is 1280 (physical). My buddy joins with his Barb and with warcry most are over 1500.

[Kreij]

Only 1M

:wtf: Perhaps the fact I've yet to spend over 30K on an item is holding me back? lol

[Arciks]

Stuck in act1 inferno, crowns quest :D even with 4 group we cant proceed

[1Kurgan1]

I bought a couple of items with LoH. I made sure they had good vit so I didn't lose life, but I took a hit on damage and res.
I can fight longer now, but it gets tough when mobs start tossing out stuff that you need res for.
It's a tough juggling act using the AH on the cheap. :D

Only issue with LoH is that it doesn't seem to do much unless you get many swings in. I hear it works pretty well with Frenzy, but most people I see using it with that need high LoH. If you got room in the build try and get War Cry and Sprint, thats the basic LoH combo, the rest is just a extra damage, you could run other defensive buffs if you just ran that basic combo. Though I found that with sprint and LoH using a shield actually lowered my survivability :laugh:

[ZenZimZaliben]

:wtf: Perhaps the fact I've yet to spend over 30K on an item is holding me back? lol

Wow. That is impressive and you are in Act I inferno? Yeah you need to start expanding your horizons, especially for Inferno.

The pants were cheap, the wand I purchased was B/O of 8M, but I waited until it was 30Min remaining...got it for 1.7M. 900DPS, 11% IAS, 100 vit, Socketed. Which I added a 80% Crit Damage to.

[pr0n Inspector]

I bought a couple of items with LoH. I made sure they had good vit so I didn't lose life, but I took a hit on damage and res.
I can fight longer now, but it gets tough when mobs start tossing out stuff that you need res for.
It's a tough juggling act using the AH on the cheap. :D

not worth it really, at 8k dps you're taking forever to kill something.

[TheMailMan78]

:wtf: Perhaps the fact I've yet to spend over 30K on an item is holding me back? lol

Don't feel bad. I don't think I have even made 2M after 75 hours of play TOTAL. Dunno how people are buying stuff at 8M and such.

[entropy13]

Only issue with LoH is that it doesn't seem to do much unless you get many swings in. I hear it works pretty well with Frenzy, but most people I see using it with that need high LoH. If you got room in the build try and get War Cry and Sprint, thats the basic LoH combo, the rest is just a extra damage, you could run other defensive buffs if you just ran that basic combo. Though I found that with sprint and LoH using a shield actually lowered my survivability :laugh:

Kreij's main character is a monk...

[digibucc]

Don't feel bad. I don't think I have even made 2M after 75 hours of play TOTAL. Dunno how people are buying stuff at 8M and such.

me neither, i'm finishing up hell now and have yet to spend more than 30k on an item, and that was expensive. most are around 5-10k. i've only picked up just over 1M, and i've got about 100 hours in so idk what i'm doing wrong ;)

[MxPhenom 216]

I played like an hour of this game and got really bored. Just not my type of game.

[1Kurgan1]

Kreij's main character is a monk...

I forgot about his 35 side strike, my bad.

[lyndonguitar]

I played like an hour of this game and got really bored. Just not my type of game.

I got bored too on my first hours, but playing with friends kept me playing. and It just gets better once you start unlocking those spells/skills. It gets better as you level. but as you go to inferno, That's when good goes bad

Imagine uncanny valley reversed. :laugh:

[ZenZimZaliben]

Don't feel bad. I don't think I have even made 2M after 75 hours of play TOTAL. Dunno how people are buying stuff at 8M and such.

Because I didn't pickup that gold. I played AH Tycoon. Even with my GF gear @266% I still only make about 250-350K per run. You are never going to get the gold by finding it in-game. This was blizzards plan, and you have to see that?

Buy a complete set of armor that is for GF%. Doesn't have to be great OP gear, just good enough to farm Hell or Act I. You want to be above 200% with 5NV.

Adding GF% to your Hirelings will increase your GF, if you didn't know. Not 1:1, but it does help.

Almost every morning after prior loot runs I will wake up to at least 1M in sales, prior to 1.0.3 it wasn't uncommon to see 2-3M.

[1Kurgan1]

I played like an hour of this game and got really bored. Just not my type of game.

Only games that are fun within the first hour are usually racing games and online FPS's. Any sort of RPG or anything else that requires leveling for more powerful abilities takes more than an hour of invested time to get enjoyable.

[TheMailMan78]

Because I didn't pickup that gold. I played AH Tycoon. Even with my GF gear @266% I still only make about 250-350K per run. You are never going to get the gold by finding it in-game. This was blizzards plan, and you have to see that?

Buy a complete set of armor that is for GF%. Doesn't have to be great OP gear, just good enough to farm Hell or Act I. You want to be above 200% with 5NV.

Adding GF% to your Hirelings will increase your GF, if you didn't know. Not 1:1, but it does help.

Almost every morning after prior loot runs I will wake up to at least 1M in sales, prior to 1.0.3 it wasn't uncommon to see 2-3M.

I got items in there for sale now for 10k. Hell I tried to sell a legendary AX for 25k and no one bought it. Everything is in the real money auction house and its stupid. I ended up giving the Ax to one of Kreij friends for free.

[ZenZimZaliben]

I disagree about the RMAH..Yes the absolute best items are there, but I have never used the RMAH and plenty of people are buying on the GAH.

You literally need to sit in the GAH for 30-60min searching for cheap items to spin. Yeah this drives inflation like crazy whatever it makes gold. It sucks, no doubt about it. However once you sell your first 50k, 100K, 500K, 1M, 5M...and see that in your completed it all feels slightly better.

Then rinse and repeat.

Pricing your item is important. You need to research every item and see where the market is at for similar, then undercut by 20% or so. You will make money man.

No one buys legendary stuff because they mostly suck. Very few people will buy a legendary under 60th lvl, so yeah don't bother unless it's 60+ level and had excellent rolls.

If you see a similar item as your, but it has been sitting for a long time you know it's overpriced, so price accordingly.

[TheMailMan78]

I disagree about the RMAH..Yes the absolute best items are there, but I have never used the RMAH and plenty of people are buying on the GAH.

You literally need to sit in the GAH for 30-60min searching for cheap items to spin. Yeah this drives inflation like crazy whatever it makes gold. It sucks, no doubt about it. However once you sell your first 50k, 100K, 500K, 1M, 5M...and see that in your completed it all feels slightly better.

Then rinse and repeat.

Pricing your item is important. You need to research every item and see where the market is at for similar, then undercut by 20% or so. You will make money man.

No one buys legendary stuff because they mostly suck. Very few people will buy a legendary under 60th lvl, so yeah don't bother unless it's 60+ level and had excellent rolls.

If you see a similar item as your, but it has been sitting for a long time you know it's overpriced, so price accordingly.

The cheapest version of that Ax sold for 5M. I put it up for 25K! Nothing.

[ZenZimZaliben]

Ahhh, so you massively under-priced it...which means it didn't even come up in the top pages of search results.

Price accordingly works both ways...Don't over-price and don't under-price because no one will see it.

Repost it for 3.5M B/O with a starting bid of 1M.

[TheMailMan78]

Ahhh, so you massively under-priced it...which means it didn't even come up in the top pages of search results.

Price accordingly works both ways...Don't over-price and don't under-price because no one will see it.

Repost it for 3.5M B/O with a starting bid of 1M.

I did that too. No one bought it. I tried to sell that thing 4 times. Bah its gone now anyway. Like I said I gave it away.

[ZenZimZaliben]

Well damn man IDK then. Not everything sells though that is for sure. Just try not to give up you will get a good sale eventually that will allow you start buying stuff purely to spin.

Legendary items are an odd sale because they are so unique, but often a good Blue item can out do them.

[entropy13]

I'm doing good enough in the GAH, but still nothing in the RMAH (except for $5 in my battle.net balance :laugh:).

Besides the buy-and-sell (which is still quite 50/50 for me), there's the sure-fire but requires more capital, and only has a relatively smaller profit gem crafting business. :laugh:

[D007]

lol, welcome to ebay 2012...
This is a game? You guys sound like you spend more time in auction houses than actually playing any game..

pages and pages of nothing but RMAC talk.. :banghead:

[entropy13]

lol, welcome to ebay 2012...
This is a game? You guys sound like you spend more time in auction houses than actually playing any game..

Yeah, I spend more time in the AH than actually playing the game. I take maybe around 30 minutes to finish Act III Hell, then check the AH for 5 minutes, then go back to farming Act III Hell for 30 minutes. Then I'll logout and play a different game, usually Football Manager 2012. So yeah, I've spent most of my playing time just browsing the AH. Oh, wait.

[ZenZimZaliben]

If you don't play AH Tycoon you will never get enough gold. So either whip out the CC and buy stuff or grind for months on end until you can afford that 10M item. This was exactly how blizz wanted us to "play". No point in fighting it.

Or you can hope you get crazy lucky and get that godly i63 to drop and sell it for 5M. But at the rate rares drop with horrible rolls you are still talking days.weeks of grinding.

[D007]

Yeah, I spend more time in the AH than actually playing the game. I take maybe around 30 minutes to finish Act III Hell, then check the AH for 5 minutes, then go back to farming Act III Hell for 30 minutes. Then I'll logout and play a different game, usually Football Manager 2012. So yeah, I've spent most of my playing time just browsing the AH. Oh, wait.

Well, I hope you guys are making good money in it.. Guess it's nice in terms of a game giving the consumer a chance to actually make cash, rather than just spend it on the game.. Has potential for sure..

[ZenZimZaliben]

Well, I hope you guys are making good money in it.. Guess it's nice in terms of a game giving the consumer a chance to actually make cash, rather than just spend it on the game.. Has potential for sure..

I haven't sold anything on the RMAH. Maybe when i completely give up on this game i will sell everything in hopes of getting my $60 back, which I should easily be able to do. Right now though I'm just doing the GAH. And yes making good amounts of gold.

I'm not even saying it's fun or cool. It is just what you have to do to progress further and faster in game for all the Gear Checks in inferno.

[Kreij]

I was resistant to the GAH at first, but it's really a part of the game and is fun to fool around in.
I don't spend a whole lot of time there, but it's fun looking for bargains.
The only thing the in-game vendors are good for is repairing your stuff and selling crap you didn't drop when out fighting, because they never have anything good.
The rest of the stuff you can't use goes to the GAH.

One problem is that you get stuff way faster than you can sell it in the GAH with the 10 item limit and the 36 hour auction time. lol

The RMAH is just a bonus for people who want to sell stuff there. Nothing wrong with making a little cash on the side since you are playing the game anyway.

@Pr0n Inspector : Had a good time running in inferno with your monk. Thanks for joining my game. :toast:

[ZenZimZaliben]

One problem is that you get stuff way faster than you can sell it in the GAH with the 10 item limit and the 36 hour auction time.

Use the RMAH/GAH for free inventory slots. Just post an item/cancel. Also create mules to store more stuff.

[1Kurgan1]

I got items in there for sale now for 10k. Hell I tried to sell a legendary AX for 25k and no one bought it. Everything is in the real money auction house and its stupid. I ended up giving the Ax to one of Kreij friends for free.

What level and DPS was it? Theres numerous level 58 Legendaries that are just horrible. Almost all weapon Legendaries are just bad, they have horrible DPS, and it's been brought up to Blizzard. People price them all over the place mostly because they are worth nothing, even blue weapons unless they are 600 - 700 dps (1 handers) with good stats are pretty much worthless (80k or less), and a 2 hander thats got just damage on it has to be like 1200+ dps just to be worth over 100k.

Theres a 2 handed Legendary sword (I think it's the highest DPs Legendary in the game) that can reach 1200 or so DPS, yet search the AH and you will find so many Magic and Rare weapons that surpass it. Legendary armor is the stuff to find for now, and eve nsome of those just have horrible stats. So doubting that has anything to do with the RMAH, people can price things at whatever they want, it doesn't mean it is selling. I had a 58 Legendary sword I got for 10k, 2 weeks later I sold it for 9k (and this was before the RMAH was even out).

[Kreij]

I get lots of items with multiple high stats (>100) but the dps sucks.

[1Kurgan1]

I get lots of items with multiple high stats (>100) but the dps sucks.

Yeah, thats what a majority of drops are. Even a 1 hander with 550 dps and 250 str is like 5000 gold, if it had a socket, life on hit, or vitality it would be worth a ton of with that str, but since it didn't, 1 good stat just isnt a enough even with decent dps for a 1 hander (it actually was higher dps with that str than my 672 dps 1 hander, but I'd loose 600 life on hit).

[bostonbuddy]

look at what just dropped into my lap.
http://img.techpowerup.org/120627/new.jpg
first sellable weapon I've gotten in inferno.
adds so much health might use it for a while, was gonna get a 1k plus weapon but might put that money toward better armor.

[Urlyin]

look at what just dropped into my lap.
http://img.techpowerup.org/120627/new.jpg
first sellable weapon I've gotten in inferno.
adds so much health might use it for a while, was gonna get a 1k plus weapon but might put that money toward better armor.

Geez.. just me sick why don't you!!! lol J/K .. nice drop though :toast:

[Zubasa]

Just run with tornado babrb spec and that gear issue will go away, if you want to run that build and actually get in melee range, then yes you need to invest. I still don't think that gold gap is that large after the nerf though, even before the nerf. Sure you could get by with low cost itemization on ranged classes, but you either A) could never get hit or B) you took forever to kill everything.
Once you get pass Siegebreaker you will see that there are often time that you will be forced into melee range, because the terrain is simply too restrictive.
Basically its elite Phase Beast/Soul Reaper = GG

Long story short pre-1.03 for classes like DH is A)never get hit because even white mobs like Soul Rippers in late act 3 can easily eat your face even with 600 resist and 40k hp.
It was simply not worth it to itemize much into defensive stats pre-1.03. Now I don't know how much they nerfed the mobs in Act3 so maybe they hit like wet noodles now.

[Ross211]

I finally reached my goal of making back my $60 spent on Diablo 3. It's funny I did it with one uber item. I sold these rare gloves below for $125. I had the proceeds deposit to my PayPal to help for groceries, ROFL... Blizzard got 15% though :~(

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t215/rmartin311/Diablo%203/DiabloIII_2012_06_27_03_49_41_379.png

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t215/rmartin311/Diablo%203/DiabloIII_2012_06_27_22_31_56_255.png

I'm gonna buy some beers too with the $$$$ :D

[Zubasa]

Now I don't know how much they nerfed the mobs in Act3 so maybe they hit like wet noodles now.
I just checked, yup inferno Soul Reapers now hit me for 15K now instead :laugh:
Btw a ran into a pack of Blue Phase Beast and they hit for 25k on my DH now, pre-patch a white Phase Beast hits for 45k. :roll:

[n-ster]

psst btw, if you say you are "making money" off diablo and you get the money as Battle.net balance, well guess what, that's not real money, that's another type of in game gold :p Nice gloves, glad it made you 100+$ in real life :)

Now can you share the luck with us? LOL

[lyndonguitar]

psst btw, if you say you are "making money" off diablo and you get the money as Battle.net balance, well guess what, that's not real money, that's another type of in game gold

Exactly, but if blizzard had more games like steam or origin, I would consider it as real money though. free gamez!

EDIT: If youre doing some hell farming please invite me, I need to level my barb and its hard to level now since they nerfed the quest exp gains

[Ross211]

psst btw, if you say you are "making money" off diablo and you get the money as Battle.net balance, well guess what, that's not real money, that's another type of in game gold :p Nice gloves, glad it made you 100+$ in real life :)

Now can you share the luck with us? LOL

Yeah my first few auctions I made on the RMAH I thought you could take the Battle.net funds and deposit them into PayPal... I thought you could log into your Battle.net account through the official Diablo 3 website and deposit that money into PayPal... WRONG :mad: I didn't find this out until about 2 days ago.

If you want real money from your auction, choose to deposit the funds to PayPal because you can't convert it into PayPal cash unless you choose this from the start of the auction.

Can I convert my Battle.net Balance into cash?
Any amount you add to your Battle.net Balance, either through an approved payment method or by adding Diablo III auction house earnings to your Battle.net Balance, will not be refundable (except as otherwise provided by law), and you are not able to convert that Balance into cash. Battle.net Balance can only be used to buy designated Blizzard Entertainment products and services or to acquire items from Diablo III's currency-based auction house. In certain regions, Diablo III players may choose to receive cash, rather than add to their Battle.net Balance, from the sale of an item from the currency-based auction house. Those players will be able to do so via PayPal for an additional fee. Players will need to determine which method they wish to use at the time they post their auction. For more information on the currency-based auction house, see the Auction House FAQ.

^ From http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/battle-net-balance-frequently-asked-questions-faq#q6

Thankfully I did choose to deposit the proceeds from the gloves into my PayPal though :p

[pr0n Inspector]

psst btw, if you say you are "making money" off diablo and you get the money as Battle.net balance, well guess what, that's not real money, that's another type of in game gold :p Nice gloves, glad it made you 100+$ in real life :)

Now can you share the luck with us? LOL

The worst part is that b-bucks can not be transfer to paypal/buy anything meaningful which mean it will go back to AH eventually wear down to near zero by the 15% fee.

[n-ster]

The worst part is that b-bucks can not be transfer to paypal/buy anything meaningful which mean it will go back to AH eventually wear down to near zero by the 15% fee.

it will wear down to 0 with the 1$ fee

[bostonbuddy]

Holy day of drops batman!
so first that hammer a page back drops,
then I got a 1000dps two hander,
now this
what should I price it at 20mil starting, 50milbin?
http://img.techpowerup.org/120628/ammy187.jpg

[NinkobEi]

Holy day of drops batman!
so first that hammer a page back drops,
then I got a 1000dps two hander,
now this
what should I price it at 20mil starting, 50milbin?
http://img.techpowerup.org/120628/ammy187.jpg

Um, nice. I'd put that sucker on the RMAH and turn Diablo into a free2play game :laugh:

[Cold Storm]

4th of July sale for Newegg has Diablo III for $49.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832133072&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL062812&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL062812-_-EMC-062812-Index-_-PCGames-_-32133072-L026A)

[TheMailMan78]

Urlyin and I were playing last night and came to the conclusion this game has gotten stupid. I don't regret buying it as I have 70+ hours in it. Worth the money for sure. But the longevity of this verses say BF3 just isn't there. This game is a new cash cow for Blizzard. Its a money maker first and a game second. Unless they patch out the stupidity in this game Ill be uninstalling it very soon.

[Mussels]

i like the idea of playing new characters and getting replayability there, but hitting a dead end in inferno with every character seems lame.

[Kreij]

Seems like inferno is meant to be played more like an MMO raid, with a group of mixed class characters of varying skills and abilities.
This would explain why TMM and Urlyin (both barbs) have a stupidly hard time.

That also doesn't do anything for people who want to solo it.

[Cold Storm]

Me... I'm still at 25 on my DH... It'll be ages before I hit that wall.. But, yes, if I had time to spend, I'd be mad.. But, I believe Kreij is right... Feel it's more of a raid then anything else..

[Kreij]

I haven't played any other classes than my monk to high level.
My monk can heal fairly well, but he has to be very close to the other characters to affect their health levels.
Is there any class that has healing ability that is not so range limited?

[ZenZimZaliben]

I haven't played any other classes than my monk to high level.
My monk can heal fairly well, but he has to be very close to the other characters to affect their health levels.
Is there any class that has healing ability that is not so range limited?

Only thing that even comes close is the barb skill that drops more health globes. So pretty much no, you are the best healer in the game....

[HalfAHertz]

My wd has 1 skill that drops a token which heals all party members around it for 5% hp and a few useless ones which drop health globes with an extremely low chance.

[Kreij]

Only thing that even comes close is the barb skill that drops more health globes. So pretty much no, you are the best healer in the game....

Hmm ... I think you guys should treat us with more respect then :roll:

I will say this, inferno is definitely challenging.

[ZenZimZaliben]

My Wizz loves a good Monk tank. I play melee wizzard so I'm usually right in the middle of it, so most Monk abilities help me a great deal.

Breath of Heaven - Blazing wrath or Circle of Life.
Serenity - Tranquil - Nice for getting me out of CC situations.
Sanctuary - Protection
Mantra Healing - ToN, Boon, Body.

Any of those are great party help.


Also - NEW HOT FIX.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6214196/Diablo_III_Hotfixes_-_June_Updated_612-6_13_2012#blog

Seems to be pretty nice. Although I am sure we will get more i63 drops, don't expect their rolls to be any better.

[Delta6326]

4th of July sale for Newegg has Diablo III for $49.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832133072&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL062812&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL062812-_-EMC-062812-Index-_-PCGames-_-32133072-L026A)
Ahhhhhh I've been waiting for this sale I knew it was going to happen and my home internet just broke!!! I'm going to try and use my phone I also have newehg gift cards to use!

[Delta6326]

Ahhhhhh I've been waiting for this sale I knew it was going to happen and my home internet just broke!!! I'm going to try and use my phone I also have newehg gift cards to use!

EDIT: Crap sorry for the double post I thought I clicked edit and not Quote :banghead:

Home internet just started working! I think i got a good deal :D

Need the flash drive for data backups on a office computer.
http://img.techpowerup.org/120628/Capture101.jpg

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

Went ahead and embraced the mainstream scene. Took the DH craze plunge. Its not that good imo. Youd hurt your wrist from kiting frequently with the standard glass cannon build. Has a bunch of other interesting builds though.. like that infinite ballista / pet crit and that tank build.

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp9/Thakkerson/11-3.png

Also noticed they have cheap 900+ weapons. Just got a 950 dps xbow with 65% crit for 50k lol.

[Ahhzz]

Ah, read the best reaction to the RMAH on P-A. (http://penny-arcade.com/2012/06/27)
So, as those who have mostly left the bulding already, Diablo 3’s Real Money Auction House is double mysterious and we don’t know what it’s for. Well, okay: we know know. The “moneys.” What I’m saying is that getting new shit actually is the game. For us, anyway. Getting and, crucially, equipping new loot. The whole AH thing short-circuits the entire idea: the game is, functionally speaking, a pinata. Right? Obviously, you could just go buy candy at the store. It’s not about having candy. It’s about getting candy.

^ That.

[Kreij]

No one is required to use the RMAH. It's there if you want to buy/sell in real money. No more, no less.

If it's all about "getting the candy", then why do people globally spend millions of dollars a day purchasing virtual items for a whole slew of games from 3rd party sites?
Doesn't that "short circuit" all of the games?
Seems that since Bilzzard incorporated it into their game, they are now the bad guys or something.
The statment seems quite disingenuous since they appear to be targetting Blizzard for wanting a piece of the multi-billion dollar industry of selling virtual good, but not anyone else.


As far as the GAH goes, I seem to have about as much luck selling items as I do beating a pack of elites in inferno when soloing. :laugh:

[ZenZimZaliben]

And it's not like people weren't selling, trading, and buying gold in D1 & D2. Blizz got smart and made it a part of their system instead of allowing all these 3rd parties. Although those still exist it is however much safer for a user to purchase off the AH.

[Kreij]

I don't use the RMAH, but the fact that if you don't specify that you want the money transfered out at the time you post the auction, it is forever stuck in you battle.net wallet (or whatever it's called) makes me wonder.

Let's say you sold $5000 worth of virtual goods and there is not $5000 worth of goods you can use it for from Blizzard.
What then if you have no way of retrieving your money? Once someone payed you for the item (minus fees), it's technically your money.
That has to be walking a fine line on what's legal in the U.S.

[TheMailMan78]

I don't use the RMAH, but the fact that if you don't specify that you want the money transfered out at the time you post the auction, it is forever stuck in you battle.net wallet (or whatever it's called) makes me wonder.

Let's say you sold $5000 worth of virtual goods and there is not $5000 worth of goods you can use it for from Blizzard.
What then if you have no way of retrieving your money? Once someone payed you for the item (minus fees), it's technically your money.
That has to be walking a fine line on what's legal in the U.S.

You can link it to a pay pal account also. You don't HAVE to use Battle.net.

[ZenZimZaliben]

Only thing you can do in that instance is sell everything for gold, then sell the gold 3rd party for cash.

[Kreij]

You can link it to a pay pal account also. You don't HAVE to use Battle.net.

I know that, but Blizzard is basically acting like a bank without any of the regulations that are imposed on the banking industry.

A few years ago the people who sold pre-paid cash cards put an expiration date on them. This was deemed illegal as it was your money and they had to change that policy.
If your battle.net account has more money in it than you can use for Blizzard products, they are basically sitting on your money, making interest and not giving you any, and not giving you an option to retrieve it.

Like I said, I was just wondering. I think this could be contested in court and it would be interesting to see the outcome.

[n-ster]

battle.net currency is basically like another in game currency. Like Maplestory has NX, RumbleFighter has astros etc. They just call it battle.net balance. The advantage is that with DIII, they are making a way to take it out as well

[Kreij]

I know what you are saying, N, but there is nothing "in-game" about the currency that gets transacted through the RMAH. The items are in-game, the money is not.
Yes, they have it set up so you can transfer the money to Paypal (or whatever), but only if specify that option up front for the auction (at least that is my understand from what people have posted here). Is that perfectly clear to people? It seems not as people thought they could transfer their balance to Paypay and that's not the case.

It's kind of like if e-bay said you can sell stuff here, but unless you tell us otherwise, and pay a transfer fee, all the money you make can only be used to buy e-bay sponsored items.

I was just pondering whether there may be litigation brought against Blizzard (or anyone else with a RMAH) in the future.

Anyway .... I'm still having a lot of fun in the game and even though it gets frustrating sometimes, I'll keep playing. Now if only people would buy my crap in the GAH .... :laugh:

[Zubasa]

Seems like inferno is meant to be played more like an MMO raid, with a group of mixed class characters of varying skills and abilities.
This would explain why TMM and Urlyin (both barbs) have a stupidly hard time.

That also doesn't do anything for people who want to solo it.
Actually if they are both DH/Wiz/WD they would have a much better time getting started in Inferno.
As I said before melee requires a shit ass ton more gear than ranged to be equally effective :(

[n-ster]

I know what you are saying, N, but there is nothing "in-game" about the currency that gets transacted through the RMAH. The items are in-game, the money is not.
Yes, they have it set up so you can transfer the money to Paypal (or whatever), but only if specify that option up front for the auction (at least that is my understand from what people have posted here). Is that perfectly clear to people? It seems not as people thought they could transfer their balance to Paypay and that's not the case.

It's kind of like if e-bay said you can sell stuff here, but unless you tell us otherwise, and pay a transfer fee, all the money you make can only be used to buy e-bay sponsored items.

I was just pondering whether there may be litigation brought against Blizzard (or anyone else with a RMAH) in the future.

Anyway .... I'm still having a lot of fun in the game and even though it gets frustrating sometimes, I'll keep playing. Now if only people would buy my crap in the GAH .... :laugh:

Def nothing wrong with what Blizzard is doing. It was very clear to me as I looked at the FAQ before doing anything stupid.

[pr0n Inspector]

Holy shit someone actually bought my Zunimassa's Vessel for fifty bucks! I don't use Paypal though so basically it's just a different kind of gold for me to get better gear.

[Kreij]

Good for you Pr0n.

Nothing sold on the GAH for me in the last couple of days.
Didn't matter if I put them up really cheap or not.
Everything came back so I tossed 10 items back out their today and 6 of them sold in 5 minutes. :wtf:

Only thing I can figure is that someone came along looking for inexpensive items to resell at a higher price.

I found a nice spear I could use on the GAH. Unfortunately it's 2 billion gold. :laugh:

[ZenZimZaliben]

Good for you Pr0n.

Nothing sold on the GAH for me in the last couple of days.



I played last night, and there were a total of 500 Public games. Usually that number is around 2000 and it's peak was 14K games after release. I am not sure if that is due to Blizz trying to balance server loads, or if the game is just dying.

To me it seems like it is starting to die. I still have fun playing multi, but something is up.

[bostonbuddy]

game needs pvp stat

[Kreij]

@ZZZ : Number of games or number of people in games?
I can see how many people are playing in public, but not how many games there are.
Currently is at ~1350 in games.

game needs pvp stat

Game needs a DOOOOOM level because inferno's just too easy. :p

BTW : Thanks for the pants ZZZ :toast:
My gems feel much safer in my new pants. lol

[TheMailMan78]

Diablo 3 is the only game in existence that makes you more manly if your pants are bedazzled.

[Kreij]

So the fact I put two different colored gems in my pants makes me more manly?
Oh yeah ... :rockout:

I need better weapons. As I gear-up for survival my DPS is taking a rather nasty hit. :/

[ZenZimZaliben]

@ZZZ : Number of games or number of people in games?
I can see how many people are playing in public, but not how many games there are.
Currently is at ~1350 in games.

BTW : Thanks for the pants ZZZ :toast:
My gems feel much safer in my new pants. lol

People in public games. Unless everyone is playing Single Player, which I doubt.

Glad those pants fit you better. Gotta bling them out with some Star level gems though.

[Kreij]

I'm already broke from making flawless square gems. lol
Radiant stars are 20M each on the GAH.

[ZenZimZaliben]

Well not that high level, a basic star is only 80K to craft I think. Last I check they were selling for 600K.

[n-ster]

I'm already broke from making flawless square gems. lol
Radiant stars are 20M each on the GAH.

Arent they like 400 ea max on the GAH? o.o (the flawless squares)

[Kreij]

Actually they are down to 250 each.
My bad I mean perfect squares. Then are about 48K in the GAH

[n-ster]

last time checked, buying from the GAH and selling the parts you have is cheaper than making them yourself

[Fourstaff]

I can say that RMAH and increased repair cost sucked the fun out of Diablo 3 for me. I barely even play these days, and its just grind grind grind for monies :/

[n-ster]

I find that after they halved the wear and tear repair costs, it is reasonable now and I have no complaints about repair costs... RMAH is annoying, but I use it as a second in game currency, therefore I sell stuff in RMAH, then buy stuff with that battle.net balance etc

I biggest complaint at the moment is act 2+ elite packs in inferno. I find the game oversimplified and repetitive with low re-playability it seems, while DII was repetitive, I enjoyed playing again, I can't imagine doing normal,nightmare,hell and Act 1+2 inferno with another char without going crazy

[Kreij]

I don't bother soloing anymore. It's not that I can't, it's just a grind.
Playing with TPU'ers and friends is a barrel of laughs though. :)

Played with Urlyin, Asrock and his wife earlier today. First time I saw such massive party slaughter (us not the mobs) :laugh:

[entropy13]

last time checked, buying from the GAH and selling the parts you have is cheaper than making them yourself

Only true on some gems, weirdly.

[pr0n Inspector]

Well not that high level, a basic star is only 80K to craft I think. Last I check they were selling for 600K.

If you start from flawless squares, it will cost about 500k in total for each star you made. that is assuming you farm gems and tomes by yourself.

[1Kurgan1]

Urlyin and I were playing last night and came to the conclusion this game has gotten stupid. I don't regret buying it as I have 70+ hours in it. Worth the money for sure. But the longevity of this verses say BF3 just isn't there. This game is a new cash cow for Blizzard. Its a money maker first and a game second. Unless they patch out the stupidity in this game Ill be uninstalling it very soon.

It's really not any different than the previous Diablo games, but you didn't play them. they are farm games once you hit max level, it is what it is. Just like some people get bored with BF games because all it is is playing the same maps over and over with no story being told when you play. It's all really in the eye of the beholder here.

i like the idea of playing new characters and getting replayability there, but hitting a dead end in inferno with every character seems lame.

After 1.0.3 I haven't really hit a dead end with either character. Remember, this is Inferno, you aren't suppose to breeze through this last difficulty.

Seems like inferno is meant to be played more like an MMO raid, with a group of mixed class characters of varying skills and abilities.
This would explain why TMM and Urlyin (both barbs) have a stupidly hard time.

That also doesn't do anything for people who want to solo it.

Personally with either of my classes, Inferno is actually easier solo. The more people you add, the more tank like your tanks have to be. Which is fine for those that want to be super tanky, but for those melee that don't want to be forced to be a ranged character just to drop down good damage, it sucks for them. Solo things have less life so easier to burst down, granted my Barb isn't burst anymore so I don't really care how many people jump in, I'll just keep using LoH to keep going.

[HTC]

The funniest thing happen today: was MF/Ging and came to this from Cemetery (look @ the area title, then @ the names of the monsters):

http://img.techpowerup.org/120630/2012-06-30_175637.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/120630/2012-06-30_175716.jpg

The whole are was like that and, as far as i could tell, all the names / jobs were different. the area elite was the game director :laugh:


This was probably already noticed before but, just in case it wasn't, here it is.

[entropy13]

LOL yeah, I got to Development Hell earlier too, for the first time. All of the monsters there are named after someone from their staff.

[HTC]

LOL yeah, I got to Development Hell earlier too, for the first time. All of the monsters there are named after someone from their staff.

Dunno if this was the 1st time or not because, before, i was trying to not get killed but now that rarely happens @ this area so i can afford to take a better look @ stuff such as the monsters names :laugh:

[Kreij]

There is also a QC dungeon with the quality staff members in it.
I've only run across the dev and qc dungeons. I don't know it there are more.