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qubit
Oct 10, 2011, 10:43 PM
Intel have finally confirmed that they will be including water cooling as an enthusiast solution for their upcoming Core i7-3000 series Sandy Bridge-E processors due for release on November 14 – a first for Intel and something for AMD to match. They have gone with Asetek due to their high quality products and good reputation, which will be branded with the distinctive Intel blue logos. The 12cm radiator fan will actually be illuminated in Intel Blue, giving a classy look to the kit. On top of that, they will actually sell the kit separately, so no one need feel left out. The E-series chips are already significantly faster than the current Sandy Bridge offerings, but water cooling will be able to stretch that lead even further and should make for some exciting overclocking achievements. Perhaps 6GHz or more 24/7 reliable operation is within reach? No prices as yet.

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-10-10/sbewatercoolers101011_thm.jpg (http://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-10-10/sbewatercoolers101011.jpg)

Sources: X-bit labs (http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/coolers/display/20111009230134_Intel_Confirms_Plan_to_Bundle_LGA20 11_Chips_with_Own_Brand_Liquid_Coolers.html) Softpedia (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-Confirms-Bundling-LGA-2011-CPUs-with-Own-Brand-Liquid-Coolers-226659.shtml)

qubit
Oct 10, 2011, 10:45 PM
Big thanks to Damn_Smooth for the tip. :toast:

Jegergrim
Oct 10, 2011, 10:47 PM
*Yawn* Give us prices already :(

douglatins
Oct 10, 2011, 11:05 PM
Prices? Lol i guess these are only included in X procs boxed

LagunaX
Oct 10, 2011, 11:05 PM
If they don't price them like their ssd's then they might actually sell some!

LAN_deRf_HA
Oct 10, 2011, 11:12 PM
I'm confused what this is. Is it a press release? We already saw this and I got to make my disgruntled remarks about it. And significantly faster than available SB procs? Not according to the previews. It's wishful thinking to expect it to go from identical IPC to radical improvement between now and launch.

Steevo
Oct 10, 2011, 11:22 PM
Called stealing the thunder.

All these companies play it. And at 120mm and what looks like 1/4" tubing it is only going to offer "meh" performance over a air cooler.

Lionheart
Oct 10, 2011, 11:23 PM
Wow love the design of it:toast:

Da_SyEnTisT
Oct 10, 2011, 11:30 PM
well , thats funny ...


when there was news about AMD thinking of the possibilty of shipping high-end FX with watercooling , every AMD haters were ready with comments like : fx must be overheating ahahah, fx this , fx that ....


Intel doing it : oh nice !

ensabrenoir
Oct 10, 2011, 11:35 PM
next rig will be green...gonna do some modding

[H]@RD5TUFF
Oct 10, 2011, 11:40 PM
I really like the colors!:eek: I can't wait for this thing to come out already!

theJesus
Oct 11, 2011, 12:01 AM
Available separately, eh? I wonder how competitive the price will be.

[H]@RD5TUFF
Oct 11, 2011, 12:03 AM
Available separately, eh? I wonder how competitive the price will be.

I would hope even intel realizes they need to be about the same as other contenders.

LagunaX
Oct 11, 2011, 12:03 AM
Haha definitely Intel blue and not AMD red!

makwy2
Oct 11, 2011, 12:17 AM
I reserve my judgement until prices and more importantly performance reviews are done on it. Until that... meh

[H]@RD5TUFF
Oct 11, 2011, 12:55 AM
I reserve my judgement until prices and more importantly performance reviews are done on it. Until that... meh

Agreed

devguy
Oct 11, 2011, 01:27 AM
Need one of these to put on my upcoming FX processor. Gonna give the FX water cooler to my buddy with the Sandy Bridge chip.

Hurray for misleading rigs!!!

ensabrenoir
Oct 11, 2011, 01:40 AM
well , thats funny ...


when there was news about AMD thinking of the possibilty of shipping high-end FX with watercooling , every AMD haters were ready with comments like : fx must be overheating ahahah, fx this , fx that ....


Intel doing it : oh nice !

:eek: alert alert. Possible intel mind control chip malfunction

Katanai
Oct 11, 2011, 01:47 AM
Well, I like how it looks. Especially that fan. I don't think I'll be switching over though. When I bought my Gygabyte x58 UD7 I said to myself that the next board I'll buy must have native USB3 and SATA 6GB. Although there's nothing wrong with the implementation that this board has but when it will be integrated it can only get better. So yeah, I think I'll wait for the next generation.

tilldeath
Oct 11, 2011, 02:26 AM
late to the game AMD already shipping bulldozer with em and they don't overprice there chips. AMD FTW!

DoomDoomDoom
Oct 11, 2011, 04:11 AM
late to the game AMD already shipping bulldozer with em and they don't overprice there chips. AMD FTW!

This... isn't a fanboy post at all. I think you missed Steevo's post about "stealing thunder". And I'm not sure if you've seen the leaked benchmarks, but Bulldozer isn't exactly blowing doors down.

[H]@RD5TUFF
Oct 11, 2011, 04:17 AM
This... isn't a fanboy post at all. I think you missed Steevo's post about "stealing thunder". And I'm not sure if you've seen the leaked benchmarks, but Bulldozer isn't exactly blowing doors down.

Sad but true.

BazookaJoe
Oct 11, 2011, 05:09 AM
Am I the only one to wonder : what about the SURROUNDING components?

Current Intel MoBo design BLATANTLY depends on the outward radiation of air from the generic circular cooler to blow on all of the surrounding ships (Edit : and even CHIPS ) such as the voltage regulation chain.

With this as spec there will be, by design, NO airflow around your CPU socket.

Yeah "..blah blah overclockers will have extra fans blah blah idiotrant.." - but if this is a STOCK cooler, a lot of NOT OVERCLOCKERS will also land up with it? Sooooo what happens to the thermal load on your VRM's? I'm just say'n....

Valdez
Oct 11, 2011, 06:02 AM
late to the game AMD already shipping bulldozer with em and they don't overprice there chips. AMD FTW!

FX-8150 review (http://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipseturi/amd-fx-8150-bulldozer-preview)

MikeMurphy
Oct 11, 2011, 06:03 AM
I have no faith in the performance of these units.

Considering they support chips "up to 100w TDP" then they will be woefully inadequate for anything overclocked. And, if the stock cooler is insufficient for non-overclocked cpus then Intel is being giant jackasses.

I'm actually getting tired of Intel's crap. You would have thought all SB-E would be unlocked. Nope, sorry. Even $500 for a CPU and mobo doesn't earn you that right with Intel. Intel is always trying to jam us for a couple extra bucks even when we're hemorrhaging money for their chipset and SB-E cpus.

As much as performance is king, I can't help but really appreciate AMD.

dieterd
Oct 11, 2011, 06:57 AM
this looks like a 80mm or 90mm fan (LOUD) - at least good that this will be as only option and intel can do what ever they want with this pricing, but there will be lot more third party coolers with better preformance, sound and of course with better price (it is intel - come on!)

Hayder_Master
Oct 11, 2011, 07:38 AM
Am I the only one to wonder : what about the SURROUNDING components?

Current Intel MoBo design BLATANTLY depends on the outward radiation of air from the generic circular cooler to blow on all of the surrounding ships (Edit : and even CHIPS ) such as the voltage regulation chain.

With this as spec there will be, by design, NO airflow around your CPU socket.

Yeah "..blah blah overclockers will have extra fans blah blah idiotrant.." - but if this is a STOCK cooler, a lot of NOT OVERCLOCKERS will also land up with it? Sooooo what happens to the thermal load on your VRM's? I'm just say'n....

+1 mate, i point for that last time when i see mobo disgin, specially the some models come with 4 memory slots on every side, so i was say for people who think about X79 should be overclockers-useing watercooling system(not intel stock WC)-best full tower case with best air flow(fans on front,side,top,rear)-and ready to waste some money.

Bundy
Oct 11, 2011, 07:59 AM
well , thats funny ...


when there was news about AMD thinking of the possibilty of shipping high-end FX with watercooling , every AMD haters were ready with comments like : fx must be overheating ahahah, fx this , fx that ....


Intel doing it : oh nice !

Well thats funny - of the 6 posts previous to yours, only one was complimentary to Intel.

Animalpak
Oct 11, 2011, 08:13 AM
people love easy ways... The branded waterblocks will have even less attractive is a shame because these coolers are not even remotely close to a custom Watercooling setup performance

Bjorn_Of_Iceland
Oct 11, 2011, 08:22 AM
I have no faith in the pumps of these units. Had an h70, the jet plate got warped and was hitting the impeller giving a crakity sound

Mindweaver
Oct 11, 2011, 12:43 PM
people love easy ways... The branded waterblocks will have even less attractive is a shame because these coolers are not even remotely close to a custom Watercooling setup performance

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-YsGUcyRpv4/S0Zww3G6uaI/AAAAAAAACCM/XdVcCfEhBLY/s400/well-duh.jpg

I think everyone and there mother knows that a custom watercooling setup's performance is better... Anyone that's ever bought a high end processor from Intel knows that they put a nice cooler in with it. It's not better than a Highend cooler from say.. "Prolimatech Inc", but it is good enough to use and have some room to overclock. I say this is probably about an even trade over Intels highend air coolers that ship with there highend processors. :toast:

Damn_Smooth
Oct 11, 2011, 12:44 PM
I reserve my judgement until prices and more importantly performance reviews are done on it. Until that... meh

Here's the rumored prices for you. They might be wrong, but it's better than nothing.

Anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4626/info-on-sandy-bridgee-pricing)

FreedomEclipse
Oct 11, 2011, 03:15 PM
this looks like a 80mm or 90mm fan (LOUD) - at least good that this will be as only option and intel can do what ever they want with this pricing, but there will be lot more third party coolers with better preformance, sound and of course with better price (it is intel - come on!)

I dont think the fan is a 80 or 92mm. MOST PC cases these days have places where you can mount a 120 or 140mm fan as standard - so to put a 80 or 92mm fan on the cooler would throw us back in time quite a bit not to mention the nightmare of needing a 120/140mm to 92/80mm shroud to be able to mount the cooler in your case, its just stupid.

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The coolers used look like rebadged Antec 920/620's. Im not sure about the 620's performance, but as a 920 owner i have to say i am more then satisfied with the performance. slap some Sythe GT's on there and you got a winning combination.

CyberDruid
Oct 11, 2011, 04:02 PM
Getting jacked is how the entire PC enthusiast market is structured. Press enter to be jacked up.

Not sure why this sort of cooler would be exciting to true OC enthusiasts...perhaps to the entry level PC nut these would have a certain OEM no hassle appeal...but for anyone that has already dabbled with high end cooling these little coolers are not even on the radar of improvements to make before going nuts on an OC.

cadaveca
Oct 11, 2011, 04:58 PM
Getting jacked is how the entire PC enthusiast market is structured. Press enter to be jacked up.

Not sure why this sort of cooler would be exciting to true OC enthusiasts...perhaps to the entry level PC nut these would have a certain OEM no hassle appeal...but for anyone that has already dabbled with high end cooling these little coolers are not even on the radar of improvements to make before going nuts on an OC.

SKT1155 CPUs don't need "aftermarket custom watercooling" though. SKT2011 could very well be much of the same(although I question this with the 15MB chips). A $89 Corsair H70 is more than enough to max out most chips, so why would you bother with a high-end cooling solution, except for looks?

I mean, I understand your perspective, as previously, custom watercooling had a noticible benefit in clocking, but not so much, any more.

TDP of 1155 chips is 95W...that means they only need 95W of cooling, not that they consume 95W. As I've said before, most hit 4.5 GHz @ about 125W, maybe needing 150W of cooling. How many watts fo heat can a good custom setup handle?

well , thats funny ...


when there was news about AMD thinking of the possibilty of shipping high-end FX with watercooling , every AMD haters were ready with comments like : fx must be overheating ahahah, fx this , fx that ....


Intel doing it : oh nice !

I think the reactions are more based on this being old news, and the only new info caontained here is that the cooler has some fancy lights and a LED fan. Those same responses you are looknig for were in the orginal thread that contained the info that INtel might be using AIW watercoolers. I don't see much of the opposite reaction in postings about the AMD watercooler either. Seems like you're not happy unless someone is complaining?

eidairaman1
Oct 11, 2011, 05:54 PM
overclocking doesnt seem special anymore, its gone mainstream. No challenge to it anymore

laszlo
Oct 11, 2011, 07:08 PM
2 expensive+ surface not flat as i saw in older thread

tilldeath
Oct 11, 2011, 07:34 PM
FX-8150 review (http://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipseturi/amd-fx-8150-bulldozer-preview)

Fan boy? Nope. Just prefer to not get bent over for a processor.

These benchmarks are useless without the final BIOS and program updates for the final release of the cpu. Even Windows has a update comming out for it. That said unless it's a benchmark after release I'm not buying it.

Also I'm done defending and this is the wrong thread for it. PM me if you'd like to have a pissing match.

[H]@RD5TUFF
Oct 11, 2011, 08:16 PM
2 expensive+ surface not flat as i saw in older thread

How can you say too expensive, there is no priceing info.

Fan boy? Nope. Just prefer to not get bent over for a processor.

These benchmarks are useless without the final BIOS and program updates for the final release of the cpu. Even Windows has a update comming out for it. That said unless it's a benchmark after release I'm not buying it.

Also I'm done defending and this is the wrong thread for it. PM me if you'd like to have a pissing match.

given there is no pricing info you can't make any claims about price rape. :nutkick:

tilldeath
Oct 11, 2011, 08:24 PM
@RD5TUFF;2422156']How can you say too expensive, there is no priceing info.
given there is no pricing info you can't make any claims about price rape. :nutkick:

are you speaking of amd or intel? Either way I've seen "leaked pricing" on both. Will verify with a link if you'd like. Whatever though in general AMD wins the price for performance war.

[H]@RD5TUFF
Oct 11, 2011, 10:51 PM
are you speaking of amd or intel? Either way I've seen "leaked pricing" on both. Will verify with a link if you'd like. Whatever though in general AMD wins the price for performance war.

"leaked" prices are rarely accurate, and not official thus not reliable or relevant, let alone the fact your talking about processors in a thread about a cooler. Please think before you post and start a pissing match.:nutkick:

laszlo
Oct 13, 2011, 08:38 AM
@RD5TUFF;2422156']How can you say too expensive, there is no priceing info.



given there is no pricing info you can't make any claims about price rape. :nutkick:


there is price info minimum 99 usd:http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152042

is the same cooler