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DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 12:57 AM
:confused: Well cant make up my mind some help guys :)

E6850 (http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1938255)

E6750 (http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=CA1938254)

Anyone has a better price do tell ;)


And has anyone bought from them this would be my 1st time


Im looking for 4Mhz + out of them E6850, 6750

panchoman
Oct 13, 2007, 12:58 AM
wait for the 45nm's. and from one of those, 6750 cause you can easily oc it to 6850 speeds

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 01:02 AM
wait for the 45nm's. and from one of those, 6750 cause you can easily oc it to 6850 speeds
thats the thing Im been waitting and its hard lol

and im not looking to run them at stock speeds im looking for 4Mhz + ;) I think I should add that to the 1st post

panchoman
Oct 13, 2007, 01:08 AM
well 4.0+ should be easy with a tr ultra 120 on a 45nm. people have been getting 3.6-3.8 on q6600's

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 01:33 AM
well 4.0+ should be easy with a tr ultra 120 on a 45nm. people have been getting 3.6-3.8 on q6600's
:roll: im on water look here (http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/details.php?id=817) its kind of old ive changed it around a bit but thats what I have

panchoman
Oct 13, 2007, 01:37 AM
whoa, i estimate 4.6 with a really good wc kit.

panchoman
Oct 13, 2007, 02:40 AM
sorry for a jack but, whats the difference between penryn and yorkfield/wolfdale?

Chewy
Oct 13, 2007, 02:57 AM
thier goign to have more cache and a die shrink.

humm yeah man you should be able to get 3.9ghz out of your e6750.. but a e6850 willl do it for sure with some ease.. tatty one has a e6850, the e6750 is a better bang for the buck though.

hat
Oct 13, 2007, 03:08 AM
Just OC your E6400 some more. The E6850 wouldn't be a major empovement (If you can manage to get 4.6 out of it which I doubt, 1GHz extra won't do a whole lot more).

I say spend the money on a shiney, new, 2900PRO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102706).

Oh, and you'll EASILY get 4MHz out of ANY modern processor. :p

Anusha
Oct 13, 2007, 04:44 AM
Oh, and you'll EASILY get 4MHz out of ANY modern processor. :p
U think so? A C2D will have multi 6 as the minimum, theoretical lowest clock speed will be 1MHzx6=6MHz :laugh:

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 09:33 AM
thier goign to have more cache and a die shrink.

humm yeah man you should be able to get 3.9ghz out of your e6750.. but a e6850 willl do it for sure with some ease.. tatty one has a e6850, the e6750 is a better bang for the buck though.I think im just going to wait :( but I want one so bad cuz the new ones are not coming untill Jan. 08 right ? and I have a E6400 lol I wish I had a E6750

Just OC your E6400 some more. The E6850 wouldn't be a major empovement (If you can manage to get 4.6 out of it which I doubt, 1GHz extra won't do a whole lot more).

I say spend the money on a shiney, new, 2900PRO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102706).

Oh, and you'll EASILY get 4MHz out of ANY modern processor. :pYeah I was thinking of the card to, but there going to have the new ones out before the 45nm cpus, and as for oc my cpu more its stuck at 3720 thats the highest I can get it stable :cry:

Wile E
Oct 13, 2007, 09:37 AM
Why not a Q6600?

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 09:40 AM
Why not a Q6600?

cuz I want to get 4Mhz +:) but I might just wait for the new Q's cuz im sure you can get 4+ with those

Wile E
Oct 13, 2007, 09:50 AM
cuz I want to get 4Mhz +:) Why, when 3.6Mhz from a Q will smash it?

Live OR Die
Oct 13, 2007, 09:56 AM
What are you goin to use it for gaming,or just mutitasking?

Rezal16
Oct 13, 2007, 11:03 AM
sorry i'am newbie but try to share :)
w/ Q66 GO (B = SLACR) you can easily get 3,85GHz just w/ air cooling and using for daily.. just need 1,45vcore and you fly w/ that clock.. but i'm not sure if ur using Q66 B3 .. :P

Tatty_One
Oct 13, 2007, 11:52 AM
wait for the 45nm's. and from one of those, 6750 cause you can easily oc it to 6850 speeds

So you can "easily" get a 6750 to 4.3Gig?? :laugh:

But I would wait now.....the 45's aint too far away and your current chip aint holding you back none.

Tatty_One
Oct 13, 2007, 11:58 AM
Just OC your E6400 some more. The E6850 wouldn't be a major empovement (If you can manage to get 4.6 out of it which I doubt, 1GHz extra won't do a whole lot more).

I say spend the money on a shiney, new, 2900PRO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102706).

Oh, and you'll EASILY get 4MHz out of ANY modern processor. :p

What a completely random comment........I tell you what, go get 4 Gig out of a E4300 Allendale, and as you said "easy" do it on air :rockout:

Tatty_One
Oct 13, 2007, 11:59 AM
Why, when 3.6Mhz from a Q will smash it?

Smash it? In what, not in MOST things it wont.

mandelore
Oct 13, 2007, 01:00 PM
wheres the option on the poll to say:

- Neither, go AMD instead :p j/k

Edit:


Im looking for 4Mhz + out of them E6850, 6750

just 4MHz ur after? :D

JrRacinFan
Oct 13, 2007, 01:25 PM
Please Dom, wait.

Now is a good time to play "the waiting game". It will not be long at all for 45nm to show up. :)

Chewy
Oct 13, 2007, 01:41 PM
yeah wait for 45nm:rockout: and get a NICE quad 45nm cpu.. thats prob what Im doing... I thikn those upcoming quads are going to be very nice overclockers... well atleast one version of them right off the hop :P

Live OR Die
Oct 13, 2007, 02:54 PM
Thats what im doin wait for 45nm man it will worth the wait

W1zzard
Oct 13, 2007, 02:57 PM
considering you already have an e6300 i'd say there is not a major performance boost to expect unless you run stuff like video encoding 24/7. if you buy a new cpu buy the e6750 if you have a motherboard that can run high fsb and oc it

marsey99
Oct 13, 2007, 06:01 PM
i say wait, get a 45nm with 8mb (or more) when they come out.

if you have money burning a hole in your credit card get a newwer mobo, p35, x38 maybe?

hat
Oct 13, 2007, 06:06 PM
What a completely random comment........I tell you what, go get 4 Gig out of a E4300 Allendale, and as you said "easy" do it on air :rockout:
I said MHz not GHz :slap:

panchoman
Oct 13, 2007, 06:07 PM
you can get 4.0 outta an allendale w/ 1333 mod i believe.

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 06:14 PM
well im going to wait I guess :ohwell: but im sure it would be better that way, im looking at the Q9450

and I want to see how my mobo whould oc it if it sucks then I going to get a newer mobo why get one now when the 45nm cpus come out im sure there going to have better ones

and the Q6600 well oc on my mobo :D

hat
Oct 13, 2007, 06:18 PM
What about the 2900pro? Your processor is just fine.

rangerone766
Oct 13, 2007, 06:23 PM
how high is a 6750 likely to go with a tuniq tower and a asus x38 board?

i would be thrilled to get 4.0 this old prescott i'm using will go to 3.9 but not stable. 3.85 is benchable, but no gaming. 3.8 24/7 stable.

i cant wait i'm so stoked to be building a new rig.

panchoman
Oct 13, 2007, 06:24 PM
im guessing you can go maybe 4.5 or so with a dual core g0.

rangerone766
Oct 13, 2007, 06:38 PM
if it goes to 4.5 i would crap in my pants. thats sweeeeeet. i may just dig out the cc and charge the rest of what i need to get it put together.

hat
Oct 13, 2007, 06:56 PM
I doubt it will hit 4.5 unless you have water cooling. A tuniq would take it past 4GHz safe, but not 4.5

Stick around at 4

Tatty_One
Oct 13, 2007, 09:48 PM
I said MHz not GHz :slap:

I stand corrected! but no cpu can acheive 4mhz......it's just impossible :p that 0.5mhz on an 8 multi! ;)

Tatty_One
Oct 13, 2007, 09:50 PM
how high is a 6750 likely to go with a tuniq tower and a asus x38 board?

i would be thrilled to get 4.0 this old prescott i'm using will go to 3.9 but not stable. 3.85 is benchable, but no gaming. 3.8 24/7 stable.

i cant wait i'm so stoked to be building a new rig.

You will hit between 4Gig and 4.15 gig dependant on your mobo and how astute you are in the finest arts of the clock! You have about as much chance of it reaching 4.5Gig....even on water as I do of leaping over the empire friggin state.

Sovereign
Oct 13, 2007, 10:05 PM
wheres the option on the poll to say:

- Neither, go AMD instead :p j/k

*cough*Phenom*cough* ;)

Fitseries3
Oct 13, 2007, 10:11 PM
i just built a new machine for a friend with a abit ip35 pro and a e2160 and zalman cnps9500. i got it to run stable @4.1 NO PROBLEM!!! temps are in the 30-40c range even under load. not bad for a $65 chip (check the microcenter ad from this month, there is a misprint!!!)

my machine has a q6600(G0) running @4.0 and i can say it does outrun MOST core 2 duo's hands down.

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 10:15 PM
i just built a new machine for a friend with a abit ip35 pro and a e2160 and zalman cnps9500. i got it to run stable @4.1 NO PROBLEM!!! temps are in the 30-40c range even under load. not bad for a $65 chip (check the microcenter ad from this month, there is a misprint!!!)

my machine has a q6600(G0) running @4.0 and i can say it does outrun MOST core 2 duo's hands down.

wheres the pics or cpu-z verfied link then I'll believe you :rolleyes:

Fitseries3
Oct 13, 2007, 10:31 PM
here's one i did @4ghz. i'll give him a call here in a bit to see if he can post one @4.1ghz

DaMulta
Oct 13, 2007, 10:35 PM
*cough*Phenom*cough*

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 10:39 PM
here's one i did @4ghz. i'll give him a call here in a bit to see if he can post one @4.1ghz
lol thats the one of the e2160 I thoght you had a Q

and thats kind of slow for 4mhz unless its cuz the 1mb l2

Sovereign
Oct 13, 2007, 10:41 PM
*cough*Phenom*cough*

Notice how the OP is conveniently avoiding a reply to these responses? ;)

LoL, just playing with you DOM! :p

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 10:43 PM
*cough*Phenom*cough*:slap: well wait and see whos going to be top dog when there out I really dont care but its funny cuz theres lots of fanboys :rolleyes:

Fitseries3
Oct 13, 2007, 10:47 PM
lol thats the one of the e2160 I thoght you had a Q

and thats kind of slow for 4mhz unless its cuz the 1mb l2

i do have a q6600. WTF? do you have to dog on everybody?

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 10:51 PM
i do have a q6600. WTF? do you have to dog on everybody?
:wtf: your the one that said you had a Q and posted the e2160 so what am I dogging ?

theses no reason to get mad lol

Tatty_One
Oct 13, 2007, 10:54 PM
*cough*Phenom*cough* ;)

U need to take something for that cough....kind of rasps a bit. :p

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 10:56 PM
U need to take something for that cough....kind of rasps a bit. :p
:laugh: DaMulta got it to :p I think they shared a drink together

Tatty_One
Oct 13, 2007, 10:56 PM
i just built a new machine for a friend with a abit ip35 pro and a e2160 and zalman cnps9500. i got it to run stable @4.1 NO PROBLEM!!! temps are in the 30-40c range even under load. not bad for a $65 chip (check the microcenter ad from this month, there is a misprint!!!)

my machine has a q6600(G0) running @4.0 and i can say it does outrun MOST core 2 duo's hands down.

Apart from those core duo's that clock faster than 4Gig in apps which have not got more than 2 threads :p

Fitseries3
Oct 13, 2007, 10:57 PM
alright here.... now what you got to say?

Tatty_One
Oct 13, 2007, 10:58 PM
here's one i did @4ghz. i'll give him a call here in a bit to see if he can post one @4.1ghz

over 15 secs in SuperPi is a tad on the slowish side for over 4Gig???

Fitseries3
Oct 13, 2007, 11:00 PM
it's only got 1m L2 cache what do you expect?

Tatty_One
Oct 13, 2007, 11:00 PM
alright here.... now what you got to say?

Well the first thing I would say is....nice! the 2nd thing I would say is that on that kind of voltage you shopuld be gettin 5Gig!!! ffs thats criminal! :eek:

Fitseries3
Oct 13, 2007, 11:04 PM
yeah i know(the voltage is high)...... this board has ALOT of vdroop under load. it can boot into windows @ 1.48 but isn't stable.

Tatty_One
Oct 13, 2007, 11:05 PM
it's only got 1m L2 cache what do you expect?

Thats still does not account for that time, shit look at the SuperPI tables...theres 6420's at just 3.8Gig at just over 13secs, the cache dont make that much difference, my old E4300 Allendale at Just 3.3Gig was less than 2 secs slower than that.....you been feeding it too much Pie? :D

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 11:13 PM
Thats still does not account for that time, shit look at the SuperPI tables...theres 6420's at just 3.8Gig at just over 13secs, the cache dont make that much difference, my old E4300 Allendale at Just 3.3Gig was less than 2 secs slower than that.....you been feeding it too much Pie? :D

well I looked on hwbot that thats the times there getting the 1mb is holding them back as for the 2mb and 4mb is the same

hat
Oct 13, 2007, 11:18 PM
here's one i did @4ghz. i'll give him a call here in a bit to see if he can post one @4.1ghz

OMG!! 445MHz 4-4-4-4!! What kind of RAM is that, and what voltage?

trt740
Oct 13, 2007, 11:31 PM
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=15868&page=37

look here my old 2160 is at 3.7 and does 16 sec super PI

trt740
Oct 13, 2007, 11:33 PM
in that bench it makes a giant amount of difference

mitsirfishi
Oct 13, 2007, 11:34 PM
deffinately wait my friend your e6400 isnt totally out of life yet still a shifty cpu so wait save your pocket and dont get robbed!! you will benifit in the long run :)

DOM
Oct 13, 2007, 11:49 PM
deffinately wait my friend your e6400 isnt totally out of life yet still a shifty cpu so wait save your pocket and dont get robbed!! you will benifit in the long run :)
Yeah I am I got this instead Cooler Master CM Cosmos 1000 (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CoolerMaster/Cosmos)for $150+tax :D

Tatty_One
Oct 14, 2007, 12:16 AM
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=15868&page=37

look here my old 2160 is at 3.7 and does 16 sec super PI

And my point is that his is running at over 4Gig and is hardly any quicker, just seems a little slow is all, unless his friends ram is not very good and running slow/loose.

Tatty_One
Oct 14, 2007, 12:20 AM
in that bench it makes a giant amount of difference

And if you look in the tables, I got under 17 and a half with an Allendale E4300 (just the 2meg of L2) on just 3.3Gig which is why for a 4Gig plus speed I thought his was a tad slow. Damn I hated that Allendale :cry:

DOM
Oct 14, 2007, 12:47 AM
I get this at 3.6Mhz 1125Mhz 5-5-5-5

http://img.techpowerup.org/071013/zzz.jpg

hat
Oct 14, 2007, 12:47 AM
I would be happy if someone gave me a Celeron (E1000 series) or a Conroe-L :/
I would even take a Celeron-D!