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InnocentCriminal
Apr 4, 2008, 09:07 PM
He's right, get some cardboard on all sides of that thing.

pagalms
Apr 4, 2008, 09:10 PM
Thanks for ideas guys ;)

InnocentCriminal
Apr 4, 2008, 09:14 PM
Not a problem!

^^

3991vhtes
Apr 4, 2008, 10:14 PM
Holy shit! I forgot to add you to the list, InnocentCriminal! Sorry!

*edites member list*

*feels better after i readded InnocentCriminal to the list*

grunt_408
Apr 5, 2008, 04:46 AM
Craigleberry, the one thing i suggest majorly upgrading before overclocking is the Chipset Cooling, My NB temps are what i think is limiting the CPU, because at startup it states the CPU is at 40 Degrees, well i have a IR Temperature Gun here, shot the CPU and the NB, well its the NB that is at 40 degrees and the CPU is at say 36 Degrees, this is under non ambient temperature conditions.

That might explain the random crashes I have been getting with this rig.... Still working all of the bugs out before I O/C any higher. How much voltage can these bartons handle?

3991vhtes
Apr 5, 2008, 05:25 AM
Well, my mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2600+ barton could manage 2.1V

grunt_408
Apr 5, 2008, 08:27 AM
Geez thats high volts man....
And what do ya make of these temps?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/Holyshittemp3.jpg

eidairaman1
Apr 5, 2008, 12:05 PM
Well craigleberry, you may want to try the extreme method of Trying a 3rd Party Bios, i have Hellfire 3EG Rev 2 in, im thinking of trying a NEO bios from here once i get everything prepped

http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1592

The next extreme is to do this but for a kids system, there is no need to do this as it could go bad

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=2322

grunt_408
Apr 5, 2008, 11:08 PM
Wow man that is crazy stuff to do to my kids pc lol

pagalms
Apr 6, 2008, 12:17 AM
What about coldbugs for socket A cpu's? Can i put some dry ice on them? I have an idea how to make a mini DI pot. :)

eidairaman1
Apr 6, 2008, 12:18 AM
what are you talking about? 0_o'

pagalms
Apr 6, 2008, 12:28 AM
Can soc A cpu's work under pot with dry ice (about -50°C)? Isn't it too cold for soc A?

eidairaman1
Apr 6, 2008, 12:32 AM
i wouldnt know because ive always aircooled, problem is possibly the core may become brittle, also the extreme cold mixed with room temperature could cause moisture buildup thus frying the chip, but sure go ahead and try it, but id recommend a 3rd party bios, PC 3500-4800 DDR, and better cooling for the NB and SB, and also cooling for the VRMs and other chips that may get hot.

pagalms
Apr 6, 2008, 12:41 AM
Thanks :)
I allready have Tictac's D26 Black Mantaray BIOS, DDR500 RAM, lapped NB and additional cooling on both bridges & mosfets near cpu + Vdd, Vdimm and Vdroop mods. :)

3991vhtes
Apr 6, 2008, 05:03 AM
Geez thats high volts man....
And what do ya make of these temps?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/Holyshittemp3.jpg

holy shiz @ 128C

the 42C is fine. I ran my mobile barton 24/7 @ 59C IDLE for about a month and a half

3991vhtes
Apr 6, 2008, 06:06 AM
Sorry guys there will be no more updates to this post. Not until 3991 can pull his head out of his butt.

All cause I don't like Dale Jr? LOL.

BTW, post reported :)

grunt_408
Apr 6, 2008, 06:40 AM
holy shiz @ 128C

the 42C is fine. I ran my mobile barton 24/7 @ 59C IDLE for about a month and a half

I know I am not too sure what it is thats @120 Deg if someone could help me with that? I think its the GPU Temp

InnocentCriminal
Apr 6, 2008, 10:56 AM
I think I may still have my SN45G profile for SpeedFan - I'll have a bash at looking for it when I'm home.

UPDATE: What motherboard are you using Craig? No wait, I've found your previous post. Unfortunately I can't find a profile for your board, only the nForce 3 version. Wonder if that would work... o.O

grunt_408
Apr 8, 2008, 08:48 AM
Temps are fine running everest . 40 deg for cpu idle have not tested load temps yet. I am going to lap the heatsink on the weekend.

Evo85
Apr 8, 2008, 01:50 PM
Just found this club and wanted to say hello. :)

Devout Socket A fan here. So much so that I just cant bring myself to move to the dual/quad cores when my Athlon XP still does everything I need.

So hello to all the Socket A fans out there. Good to know Im not the only one left. :toast:

InnocentCriminal
Apr 8, 2008, 01:53 PM
:rockout:

Welcome buddy!

Managed to OC your CPU at all?

Evo85
Apr 8, 2008, 04:01 PM
:rockout:

Welcome buddy!

Managed to OC your CPU at all?


Actually, no. I have 3 Athlon XP cores. 1 XP2200 and 2 3200. I have been toying with the idea of OC'ing one of the 3200's though. Think I still have the guide stashed somewhere. The one thing holding me back atm is getting better case cooling and a better CPU cooler.

eidairaman1
Apr 8, 2008, 09:06 PM
Temps are fine running everest . 40 deg for cpu idle have not tested load temps yet. I am going to lap the heatsink on the weekend.

whats the clock rate the CPU is at, also a major suggestion, use a IR thermometer gun and shoot the CPU and NB.

InnocentCriminal
Apr 8, 2008, 09:58 PM
Right, my 2GB DDR500 arrived today. So, if I get time this week I'll have a bash at OC'ing my old XP-M 2400+.... MUHAHAHAHAHA!

grunt_408
Apr 9, 2008, 06:26 PM
whats the clock rate the CPU is at, also a major suggestion, use a IR thermometer gun and shoot the CPU and NB.

I have a thermal sensor on the case (not sure how accurate it is) I placed that right into the heatsink of the northbridge and highest that reads is 40 deg. I will have to aquire one of those guns.

eidairaman1
Apr 10, 2008, 01:36 AM
ya i just discovered the System temp and CPU temp are backwards, in detection anyway, so my CPU actually runs cooler than the chipset does, since the AC is back on the Ambient Temps are back to normal, CPU being at 28 Degrees and Chipset at 32 Degrees, im pretty sure with better Chipset cooling the chipset will be able to handle overclocks alot better.

p_o_s_pc
Apr 10, 2008, 01:56 AM
can i join? I am getting the stuff to build a socket A server.

grunt_408
Apr 10, 2008, 06:57 PM
Yer I may have to stick a thermalright northbridge cooler on mine and lap the heatsink :p. I cannot believe how it performs. With the 9800 pro it runs all of my sons games 1024x768 no probs on med to high sttings. I figured out the random crashes were due to the 8.3 cats I roled back to 7.6 and works well now. I will post another image later with the heatsink fitted. lol. @_p o s pc I couldnt see why they wouldnt let you join :p.

Evo85
Apr 10, 2008, 08:04 PM
I have never had any luck With any Cats above 7.7. Best 3DMark score I got was with 7.7 so I never use any above that.

eidairaman1
Apr 10, 2008, 08:58 PM
Yer I may have to stick a thermalright northbridge cooler on mine and lap the heatsink :p. I cannot believe how it performs. With the 9800 pro it runs all of my sons games 1024x768 no probs on med to high sttings. I figured out the random crashes were due to the 8.3 cats I roled back to 7.6 and works well now. I will post another image later with the heatsink fitted. lol. @_p o s pc I couldnt see why they wouldnt let you join :p.

Hey did you happen to try the Hotfix Cats instead of the Default cats, AGP cards it seems use the Hotfix Driver, 8.1s run good for this 1950 Pro, just hope 8.3s and 8.4s do well.

grunt_408
Apr 11, 2008, 08:30 PM
Hey did you happen to try the Hotfix Cats instead of the Default cats, AGP cards it seems use the Hotfix Driver, 8.1s run good for this 1950 Pro, just hope 8.3s and 8.4s do well.

I didnt bother and I figure that when AMD were making the 7.6,7.7's ect... They were more focused on the older type cards. Its fine now the way it is. Although when I know the temps are O.K for sure I will pump up that O/C.

eidairaman1
Apr 12, 2008, 03:30 PM
can i join? I am getting the stuff to build a socket A server.

With some mods you can use 2 Athlon XP-M CPUs in Place of the Athlon MP, so you can have 2 3200+ running instead of 2800+

p_o_s_pc
Apr 12, 2008, 03:38 PM
With some mods you can use 2 Athlon XP-M CPUs in Place of the Athlon MP, so you can have 2 3200+ running instead of 2800+

link me to the mods! If i can do something like that then i will.:toast: well atleast try unless i know i can't do it.

eidairaman1
Apr 12, 2008, 03:46 PM
http://fab51.com/index-e.html

p_o_s_pc
Apr 12, 2008, 05:06 PM
http://fab51.com/index-e.html

where is that at? I couldn't find it

eidairaman1
Apr 12, 2008, 05:57 PM
its bridge modifications to the CPU

http://fab51.com/cpu/barton/athlon-e23.html

[I.R.A]_FBi
Apr 14, 2008, 04:16 AM
where is our dear leader?

grunt_408
Apr 14, 2008, 07:48 AM
Dunno

cdawall
Apr 14, 2008, 10:52 AM
permabanned

InnocentCriminal
Apr 14, 2008, 11:51 AM
LOL!

Gutted, what for?

cdawall
Apr 14, 2008, 01:51 PM
no clue

InnocentCriminal
Apr 14, 2008, 02:10 PM
Oh right, nevermind... I'm hungry.

dchrsf
Apr 14, 2008, 06:14 PM
http://lh3.ggpht.com/David.Fleisch/RdX7q9EiN-I/AAAAAAAAAKU/fGQmIf-ZGK8/000_0071.jpg?imgmax=800
http://picasaweb.google.com/David.Fleisch/MyCustomPCBuild

Made a few changes like higher speed fan for cpu and added a PCI sata controller, but looks basically the same now.

Can anyone say how much the cpu temp reading on the NF7-S v2 is off by? I get about 55c load @ 2.4ghz. It has more in it, but gets too high in temps. BTW this is a 3200

p_o_s_pc
Apr 14, 2008, 07:15 PM
anyone got a socket A cpu they will send to me if i pay shipping?(must be working)

dchrsf
Apr 14, 2008, 07:19 PM
I got a nice 2700+ that would work well on a keychain.

p_o_s_pc
Apr 14, 2008, 07:20 PM
I got a nice 2700+ that would work well on a keychain.

I forgot to say that i need a WORKING CPU.

grunt_408
Apr 15, 2008, 05:26 AM
Mine works but I need it hehehe.

eidairaman1
Apr 16, 2008, 01:51 AM
well, here is a update to my machine, I Jumped the FSB to 217 dropped the Multi to 10.5, increased Vcore to 1.70 from 1.65, Relaxed Timings from 6332 1T to 8 333 2T (about SPD Default)

Default CPU SPeed is 1867MHz (133x14 1.45 Vcore), it is at 2278.5 which is 411.5 MHz difference

Seems stable, with that increase there is 200 Point difference in 3D Mark from 2.2 GHz

eidairaman1
Apr 18, 2008, 12:47 AM
no more news Craigle?

eidairaman1
Apr 18, 2008, 01:54 AM
Sounds like you upped the Multiplier to 12 from 11 because it seems AXP 3200 didnt overclock that well.

I currently have my CPU at 218x10.5 (2289MHz) at 26 Degrees Idle.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/David.Fleisch/RdX7q9EiN-I/AAAAAAAAAKU/fGQmIf-ZGK8/000_0071.jpg?imgmax=800
http://picasaweb.google.com/David.Fleisch/MyCustomPCBuild

Made a few changes like higher speed fan for cpu and added a PCI sata controller, but looks basically the same now.

Can anyone say how much the cpu temp reading on the NF7-S v2 is off by? I get about 55c load @ 2.4ghz. It has more in it, but gets too high in temps. BTW this is a 3200

CrAsHnBuRnXp
Apr 18, 2008, 02:00 AM
anyone got a socket A cpu they will send to me if i pay shipping?(must be working)

Ive got an entire working Socket A computer. Case, drives, GPU, CPU, RAM, etc.

eidairaman1
Apr 18, 2008, 02:18 AM
Ive got an entire working Socket A computer. Case, drives, GPU, CPU, RAM, etc.

Whats the CPU? is it unlocked?

CrAsHnBuRnXp
Apr 18, 2008, 04:22 AM
Whats the CPU? is it unlocked?

AMD Athlon XP 1500+ Thoroughbred 333Mhz FSB @ ~1.8GHz.

Overclocked to 2.1 (i think thats what I had it at) I could make it read as a 2100+.

This is according to a text file I have on my flash drive of system specs for the computer:


PSU: 450 watt

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-7N400 PRO 2 REV 2 FK BIOS

Processor: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ Thoroughbred 333Mhz FSB @ ~1.8GHz

Memory: Corsair 1GB DDR400 PC3200

Hard Drive: Maxtor 40GB HDD, Maxtor 30GB HDD

Video Card: Gigabyte nVidia GeForce FX5200

Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit

Optical Drive1: Memorex CD Burner

Optical Drive2: Unknown brand CD-ROM

eidairaman1
Apr 18, 2008, 06:58 AM
Currently up to 219x10.5 for the CPU, Rock Stable Idle temp is 25C

p_o_s_pc
Apr 18, 2008, 08:59 PM
AMD Athlon XP 1500+ Thoroughbred 333Mhz FSB @ ~1.8GHz.

Overclocked to 2.1 (i think thats what I had it at) I could make it read as a 2100+.

This is according to a text file I have on my flash drive of system specs for the computer:


PSU: 450 watt

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-7N400 PRO 2 REV 2 FK BIOS

Processor: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ Thoroughbred 333Mhz FSB @ ~1.8GHz

Memory: Corsair 1GB DDR400 PC3200

Hard Drive: Maxtor 40GB HDD, Maxtor 30GB HDD

Video Card: Gigabyte nVidia GeForce FX5200

Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit

Optical Drive1: Memorex CD Burner

Optical Drive2: Unknown brand CD-ROM

I just need CPU and ram how much?

grunt_408
Apr 18, 2008, 09:20 PM
no more news Craigle?

Not as yet I need to know everything is alright temp wise before I pump more volts into this pup.:toast:

pagalms
Apr 18, 2008, 09:37 PM
I traded my Athlon 2500+ Barton for Sempron 2500+ TB. I'll have a lot of fun with this one. Got 43,49 sec @ 1M (http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=724865) and 2426 Mhz (1750 stock) (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=347618) till now. I know i can get better score in 1M, just need to do some more tweaks. Copy-waza will be one of them. :)
Also got Athlon 2700+ for free today, but looks like it's dead and maybe i know why. And damit, that bastard has unlocked/unlockable multiplier. :laugh:
How i hate things like these
:banghead:

CrAsHnBuRnXp
Apr 18, 2008, 09:47 PM
Id rather try to sell it as a whole and not part it out since its the only socket A system I have. And I know you dont want to buy the whole thing. If I cant sell it, I was going to turn it into a CSS or CoD4 server or somethin. :)

Sorry. :(

p_o_s_pc
Apr 18, 2008, 09:58 PM
Id rather try to sell it as a whole and not part it out since its the only socket A system I have. And I know you dont want to buy the whole thing. If I cant sell it, I was going to turn it into a CSS or CoD4 server or somethin. :)

Sorry. :(

Its fine. :toast: I am just trying to get my first socket A rig.I traded my Intel P3 for a Socket A board....

eidairaman1
Apr 18, 2008, 10:51 PM
well Craigle, i pumped the Voltage up as a precaution for instability,

Current Specs are in Specs Link

grunt_408
Apr 20, 2008, 06:16 AM
My Northbridge and southbridge heatsinks feel hot to touch dont like that.

eidairaman1
Apr 20, 2008, 05:32 PM
My Northbridge and southbridge heatsinks feel hot to touch dont like that.

Most definitely get better cooling for VRMs, NB and SB.

grunt_408
Apr 20, 2008, 06:53 PM
Most definitely get better cooling for VRMs, NB and SB.

What are you using man?

pagalms
Apr 20, 2008, 07:27 PM
Here's how i keep my board cool:

Northbridge (+8cm fan on it)

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9284/nbes1.jpg


Southbridge

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1179/sbrf4.jpg


And mosfets

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/8132/mosfetsle2.jpg

All these heatsinks are attached with Zalman thermal adhesive

eidairaman1
Apr 20, 2008, 08:31 PM
Craigle, the Cooling i have is stock for the NB and SB, nothing on VRMs, CPU is Thermalright SI-97

My Problem i hit 225x10.5- it was 3Dmark06 and Aquamark3 Stable until it BSOD into a x00008E or w/e the BSOD code was, Dropped it back down to 220x10.5 until further notice.

eidairaman1
Apr 21, 2008, 03:29 AM
Crap i couldnt hold the Overclock at 220 either, i adjusted down to 205x11, which technically does about the same as the CPU being at higher FSB with lower Multiplier in 3Dmarks, i adjusted the ram back to 2 3 3 6, forgot to adjust the 1T setting tho.

pagalms
Apr 22, 2008, 07:36 PM
Guys do you know any tweaks for wPrime? I know only that scores are better on Vista than XP, but my rig will flip up if i install Vista on it.
I was like WTF????????????????????????????? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::banghead::banghead: :banghead:when i got over 2 minutes in wprime 32M while others got 1min 15sec on same freq (2325Mhz) with Sempron 2500+.

[I.R.A]_FBi
May 15, 2008, 03:57 PM
club dead?

p_o_s_pc
May 15, 2008, 07:17 PM
isn't the owner of the club banned?

p_o_s_pc
May 15, 2008, 07:18 PM
anyone here have a socket A CPU they don't want? I still need one to get my rig up...

Evo85
May 15, 2008, 10:49 PM
I have a 2200 and a 3200 I believe. Ill double check tonight to make sure I still have them both.
;)

p_o_s_pc
May 15, 2008, 10:53 PM
I have a 2200 and a 3200 I believe. Ill double check tonight to make sure I still have them both.
;)

if you do how much? Also does atleast one work?

Evo85
May 16, 2008, 03:06 PM
I do have a 2200 and 3200. They worked fine when I last had them in. Though I would like to stress them with Orthos over the weekend to be sure they are g2g. So let me do that then we can go from there. ;)

tonyd223
May 16, 2008, 03:21 PM
Yep, I've got a XP 2600+ on a Biostar NCD7, with a ATI 9800SE with the Arctic cooler - currently awaiting ram and a psu (got robbed for me media pc). Probably use it as either an Ubuntu machine (VirtualBox doesn't do great graphics support) or stick it in the attic as NAS... but then the attic does get warm in winter...

Used to have a dual processor PIII which blew up (IBM Intellistation) which caused me to rush out to maplin (www.maplin.co.uk) to buy everything I needed...

Those were the days...

eidairaman1
May 16, 2008, 04:32 PM
dont install a machine in attic, they tend to get very dusty thanks to the insulation.

UnkAsn93
Jun 5, 2008, 01:25 AM
May I join?

JrRacinFan
Jun 5, 2008, 01:32 AM
Hey sorry guys that I haven't updated the club in a while. I will sift through the posts over the past 2 months when I get home later this evening. :)

Only if you have OC'd before TomCat.

eidairaman1
Jun 5, 2008, 10:30 PM
Ya i guess Craigle Gave up on the machine.

UnkAsn93
Jun 5, 2008, 11:18 PM
Jr, the joining rules say theres no need to OC. :(

JrRacinFan
Jun 5, 2008, 11:32 PM
Well, have you OC'd anything at all before? I don't care you can join. I still have to sift through the thread again though.

eidairaman1
Jun 6, 2008, 12:27 AM
Im attempting overclock again

CPU is XP-M 2500 at 205x11=2255.

JrRacinFan
Jun 6, 2008, 12:33 AM
Just a small update to post #2, since we've lost one of our members I am going to have to assume the role as founder. Enjoy and good day!

eidairaman1
Jun 6, 2008, 03:35 AM
Just a small update to post #2, since we've lost one of our members I am going to have to assume the role as founder. Enjoy and good day!

waddya mean lost a member- banned? be specific.

JrRacinFan
Jun 6, 2008, 03:42 AM
Yup, banned. 3991vhtes.

pagalms
Jun 6, 2008, 03:44 AM
This is not the first time when 3991vhtes gets banned :)

eidairaman1
Jun 6, 2008, 03:58 AM
go figure only a 15 yo kid

InnocentCriminal
Jun 6, 2008, 08:24 AM
I think next week I'll try my DDR600 out on my XP-M. I've been too busy fiddling with my new A8V that I've completely forgotten to actually fiddle with my socket A shuttle.

DDR600 ay?

;)

Cuzza
Jun 11, 2008, 08:28 PM
Hey guys, remember i said I found Athlon road? Got a pic of the sign today. mint.

InnocentCriminal
Jun 11, 2008, 09:19 PM
Lol!

UnkAsn93
Jun 12, 2008, 12:57 AM
It looks a little funny.. in the OP, and the second post. See if a moderator can't erase what 3991vhtes wrote, and just have it say refer to post 2 for information or something..
make it look better ;)

I like the little case badges at the bottom of the post :)

p_o_s_pc
Jun 12, 2008, 02:13 AM
I got a socket A mobo it is a MSI with a N-force 2 ultra 400. I haven't tested it yet but i will some day soon. I picked it up at a yard sale for $1 and it was never opened and had everything with it.

UnkAsn93
Jun 12, 2008, 02:48 AM
g'damn dude!

one fraking dollar for a mobo!? >:[

the nForce2 ultra 400 chipset's kick ass!

p_o_s_pc
Jun 12, 2008, 02:52 AM
g'damn dude!

one fraking dollar for a mobo!? >:[

the nForce2 ultra 400 chipset's kick ass!

I really hope it works. I would love to get a socket A rig set up and that would be a kick ass deal...

UnkAsn93
Jun 12, 2008, 02:54 AM
Need a CPU? I think I have a spare one..

AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+ Thoroughbred. I pulled it out of my laptop that died. the CPU is still good :)

$10+ shipping sound good?

p_o_s_pc
Jun 12, 2008, 03:00 AM
I need a CPU sounds good. let me take the board to my friends house and let him test it for me. If it works i will take you up on that.

UnkAsn93
Jun 12, 2008, 03:54 AM
Alright, just let me know :)

p_o_s_pc
Jun 12, 2008, 04:01 AM
Will do thanks tom

MKmods
Jun 12, 2008, 04:03 AM
woo hooo another club I can join.. I had to sell all my good stuff to finance my new comp so I am using a SKT A Sempron 2200..(and a PC Chips mobo, yee haaa)
I found a AIW 9800Pro and a 128 stick of mem.

Anyone have a pair of 512s or a couple of 1 gig sticks I can buy?

p_o_s_pc
Jun 12, 2008, 04:06 AM
I don't have any ram that i could sell you but if the MSI board with Nfoce 2 ultra 400 works you want to buy it? be better then your PC chips

UnkAsn93
Jun 12, 2008, 04:49 AM
Don't forget a processor ;)

KBD
Jun 13, 2008, 12:51 AM
woo hooo another club I can join.. I had to sell all my good stuff to finance my new comp so I am using a SKT A Sempron 2200..(and a PC Chips mobo, yee haaa)
I found a AIW 9800Pro and a 256 stick of mem.

Anyone have a pair of 512s or a couple of 1 gig sticks I can buy?

What kinda RAM you need? I got 2 512MB sticks of PC133 RAM that i'm selling from from Socket A PC, the one in my sig.

MKmods
Jun 13, 2008, 12:56 AM
thanks for the offer :respect:, I need a pair of DDR.

KBD
Jun 13, 2008, 01:01 AM
Sorry, all i got is SDRAM and DDR2 (2x 512MB of Corsair XMS2).

MKmods
Jun 17, 2008, 12:45 AM
BIG Thanks to Greasemonkey for the 2 sticks of memory, Very nice of you.

UnkAsn93
Jun 17, 2008, 12:57 AM
Greasemonkey is a great guy. :toast:

KBD, think you could let one of those go for a donation to the "Tom's computer needs RAM fund" :p

KBD
Jun 17, 2008, 10:07 PM
Greasemonkey is a great guy. :toast:

KBD, think you could let one of those go for a donation to the "Tom's computer needs RAM fund" :p

Which one do you need? SDRAM or DDR2? I can give you a special reduced price.

UnkAsn93
Jun 22, 2008, 09:10 PM
I don't think I'd need the RAM Anymore, thanks anyway, KBD :)

Hey all fellow Socket A'ers, I'm selling my CPU.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=63634

p_o_s_pc
Jun 29, 2008, 04:59 PM
got some good news... I am getting a Athlon xp 3200+ and 1gb of DDR ram.Getting it for helping a friend build his new rig.now that he upgraded he wants to throw his socket A stuff against a wall but i talked him into giving it to me.:D If everything goes right and the MSI board that i got works i will have a socket A rig up by next week. BTW i lapped the HS on the north bridge for the MSI board it was bad. I also used MX-2 on it. I hope the board works so i can get the 3200+ clocked.


If everything works out what speed should i aim for? The board has a Nforce 2 400 ultra

eidairaman1
Jun 30, 2008, 01:20 AM
As long as the Stepping doesnt say 0329 or higher you will have an unlocked chip, but usually the XP3200 doesnt overclock well at all, but it is still capable of gaming.
got some good news... I am getting a Athlon xp 3200+ and 1gb of DDR ram.Getting it for helping a friend build his new rig.now that he upgraded he wants to throw his socket A stuff against a wall but i talked him into giving it to me.:D If everything goes right and the MSI board that i got works i will have a socket A rig up by next week. BTW i lapped the HS on the north bridge for the MSI board it was bad. I also used MX-2 on it. I hope the board works so i can get the 3200+ clocked.


If everything works out what speed should i aim for? The board has a Nforce 2 400 ultra

p_o_s_pc
Jun 30, 2008, 02:29 AM
If anything i will be using it for the Internet and F@H mostly

dchrsf
Jun 30, 2008, 02:12 PM
Shoot for 2.4. Locked, at an 11 multiplier you will need 218FSB. Tell us how it goes.

p_o_s_pc
Jun 30, 2008, 05:51 PM
I will let you know in a few days if the board works. but that is only a 200mhz overclock isn't it?

eidairaman1
Jun 30, 2008, 06:05 PM
go here for stepping info. Only chips that are unlocked after 0329 are AXP-M CPUs

p_o_s_pc
Jun 30, 2008, 06:08 PM
I don't know what the stepping is on the chip as i don't have it yet but will sometime this week well i should.My friend(black light burns) still has the chip.

eidairaman1
Jun 30, 2008, 06:09 PM
well it directly shows you where to look.

p_o_s_pc
Jun 30, 2008, 06:09 PM
there was no link in your post

pagalms
Jun 30, 2008, 06:10 PM
2B pencil makes wonders with soc A CPU's :D

p_o_s_pc
Jun 30, 2008, 06:16 PM
2B pencil makes wonders with soc A CPU's :D

What you got to do? I have NEVER owned a socket A and never even used one:eek: but i got a kick ass deal on a board that has never been opened and i have a friend giving me a CPU and ram so i just want to see what i can do.

pagalms
Jun 30, 2008, 06:35 PM
You can unlock multiplier for several CPU's by connecting L1 bridges on it. guide (http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/socketa/socketa_resistors.html). You can use pencil instead of paint. But be sure to connect nothing else than each two points.
If bridges are already connected, then pinmod may help.
There are lot of overclocking/pinmodding/etc guide for soc A cpus over teh internet. Just need to do some google'ing.

p_o_s_pc
Jun 30, 2008, 06:39 PM
You can unlock multiplier for several CPU's by connecting L1 bridges on it. guide (http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/socketa/socketa_resistors.html). You can use pencil instead of paint. But be sure to connect nothing else than each two points.
If bridges are already connected, then pinmod may help.
There are lot of overclocking/pinmodding/etc guide for soc A cpus over teh internet. Just need to do some google'ing.

so all i would have to do is connect the L1 bridges.. sounds easy if you have some light and a place to work...

eidairaman1
Jun 30, 2008, 07:09 PM
not to mention a good magnifying glass, also the Schematics are at Fab 51.

p_o_s_pc
Jun 30, 2008, 10:37 PM
i got the cpu and ram today (thanks blb)but he forgot the video card :(

p_o_s_pc
Jul 14, 2008, 04:53 PM
I have had a hell of a time getting a socket A rig working. I have had 2 mobo die 1 dead CPU 1 dead video card 1 512mb stick of ram dead... I give up. Now i have a 256mb stick of DDR 266 and some Athlon CPU i think 3000+ with no use... ohwell

cdawall
Jul 14, 2008, 06:28 PM
send me the 3000+ and i can throw it under DICE with the rest of the stuff i'm killing i mean testing

OverclockedBoo
Jul 14, 2008, 07:09 PM
I'll join the club! I still love my socket A computers. I have had some of the parts since early 2002!

Socket A #1
XP 2500+ @ 2.2ghz (11*200) w/ CoolerMaster HHC001 hsf
Asus A7N8X
1024 Samsung pc3200
S/U/M/A (Korean) GeForceFX 5900X (XT?) 128MB & 450/750
Diamond Xtreme 7.1

Socket A #2
Sempron 2600+ @ 2.0ghz (11*183) on stock cooling
Chaintech KT600
512MB Kingston pc3200
ATI 9500pro 128MB @ 325/650

Spare parts:
XP 2400+ 2.0ghz 266 fsb (may be fried!)
Sempron 2400+ 1.66ghz 333 fsb (still runs strong @ 2.0ghz 10*200)
Chaintech KT600
PNY GeForce 4 4600ti (fan inop, but still works)
ATI Radeon 7500

The Asus A7N8X is one of the best mobos I've ever owned. I just rebuilt both systems for my kids.

p_o_s_pc
Jul 14, 2008, 07:31 PM
send me the 3000+ and i can throw it under DICE with the rest of the stuff i'm killing i mean testing

i think i will pass on that for now

grunt_408
Jul 17, 2008, 05:32 AM
Anyone home?

eidairaman1
Jul 17, 2008, 06:28 AM
i just picked up suzuna sx 3.8b bios, will soon flash.

Cuzza
Jul 21, 2008, 08:01 PM
Hey there guys, I'm back in the socket A game! CHeck it out here:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=66224

@Overclockedboo, great to see your systems still going strong. better get another mobo and put the spares to use

eidairaman1
Jul 22, 2008, 05:32 AM
overclocked to 209x11 (2299 MHz)

InnocentCriminal
Jul 22, 2008, 08:24 AM
I still need to find time to try out my DDR600 and my 2400/2500+ chips. :(

eidairaman1
Jul 22, 2008, 10:05 AM
DDR 500 myself, btw 600 is rated at a higher voltage, say 2.9-3.0 i have mine at stock timings at 2.9V, stock is 2.8 i just pumped it for stability.

InnocentCriminal
Jul 22, 2008, 10:06 AM
Fair!

Ketxxx
Jul 27, 2008, 02:12 AM
I might grab some 462 stuff and see what it can do.. If I do systemwill look something like this;

XP-M of sorts
nF2 mobo of sorts
1\2GB of PC4000
Decent-ish (for AGP) graphics. Maybe a X1950

eidairaman1
Jul 27, 2008, 04:07 AM
for Mobo, Abit

http://www.uabit.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=48&page=1&model=124

other solutions
http://www.uabit.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=48&page=1&model=158
http://www.uabit.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=48&page=1&model=229

or DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B, go to DFI club for the bios, preference is suzuna sx3.8b.

p_o_s_pc
Jul 27, 2008, 05:57 AM
the MSI ultra 400 is a good board. my friend had one.... It overclocked good.

eidairaman1
Jul 27, 2008, 06:04 AM
K7N2 Delta-L?

that board couldnt overclock worth a shit.

amd64skater
Jul 27, 2008, 06:05 AM
i own a 3000+ i want in i know it's my g/f pc but i have a socket A system

p_o_s_pc
Jul 27, 2008, 06:08 AM
K7N2 Delta-L?

that board couldnt overclock worth a shit.

i think that is the one. The board that he had clocked good well atleast he said it did but he is known to lie alot... I bought one but i couldn't get it to post so i threw it away... so i can't speak for how it clocks...

cdawall
Jul 27, 2008, 02:55 PM
K7N2 Delta-L?

that board couldnt overclock worth a shit.

mine pulled off a 100% oc on a 2000+ tb-a

MadClown
Jul 27, 2008, 02:59 PM
does a 1800+ count, i still have one on an asrock mobo, that thing never crashed i swear, i would have to take a hammer to it in order for it to fail, it ran BF2 flawlessly on high

pagalms
Jul 27, 2008, 03:02 PM
Abit NF7/NF7-S FTW :)

eidairaman1
Jul 28, 2008, 02:41 AM
mine pulled off a 100% oc on a 2000+ tb-a

have seen a few with AXP-M 2500/2600+ overclocked to 2.7GHz, on DIY Street, originally DFI Street, which DFI Street is now DFI Club.

cdawall
Jul 28, 2008, 03:04 PM
have seen a few with AXP-M 2500/2600+ overclocked to 2.7GHz, on DIY Street, originally DFI Street, which DFI Street is now DFI Club.

that put me @3.3ghz had a multi mod on it and other than that i just clocked it to hell 2.4v to do it

InnocentCriminal
Jul 28, 2008, 03:42 PM
Freaking hell, 3.3GHz. D'you have any CPU-Z screenies of that, as that would be something I wouldn't want to forget without proof.

cdawall
Jul 28, 2008, 03:49 PM
Freaking hell, 3.3GHz. D'you have any CPU-Z screenies of that, as that would be something I wouldn't want to forget without proof.

looking now

not that i can find.....o well i'm going to torture some other sA chips soon maybe i will find another wonder chip

eidairaman1
Jul 30, 2008, 07:56 AM
to reach beyond 2.2GHz is a chore,

PP Mguire
Aug 15, 2008, 10:21 PM
Suppose i can be part of this club too? Most of my time with a PC was on a Socket A machine. Had a 2600+ Barton at 2.3ghz running my ram natively at 400mhz. The good ol days :)

Cuzza
Aug 13, 2009, 12:00 AM
Well I got my socket A machine up and running again. I don't suppose any other sucker is still stuck in that time warp?

dchrsf
Aug 13, 2009, 12:18 AM
My XP 3200+ is still running strong. It runs BF2 flawlessly and is my everyday computer. With that in mind, i am planning on upgrading to a core i5 system maybe four months after it comes out.. due to the lack of multitasking power.

If anyone is interested in pics, or whatever let me know as i will be cleaning it out soon.

stinger608
Aug 13, 2009, 03:59 AM
Well I got my socket A machine up and running again. I don't suppose any other sucker is still stuck in that time warp?

Have a Gigabyte GA-7VAXP running a xp3200 with one gig of ram, and a 6600GT vid card. Just a system that I mess with once in awhile:toast:

eidairaman1
Aug 13, 2009, 04:37 AM
Well I got my socket A machine up and running again. I don't suppose any other sucker is still stuck in that time warp?

Look at my system specs.

Cuzza
Aug 13, 2009, 05:24 AM
If anyone is interested in pics, or whatever let me know as i will be cleaning it out soon.

oh yes, the socket A club is always on the lookout for pictures of pimped out socket A beasts. or whatever yours looks like

Have a Gigabyte GA-7VAXP running a xp3200 with one gig of ram, and a 6600GT vid card. Just a system that I mess with once in awhile:toast:

XP3200? hmmm. is that a kt400 board? that is the sort of board i need to get, or something else with 8x agp. i am crippling my vid card running at agp4x

Look at my system specs.

:rockout::rockout: nice overclock!

zithe
Aug 13, 2009, 05:27 AM
I found a system that's from 02. I've yet to turn it on and find out what's in it (Mostly out of fear). I'll have to wait. I threw away the case and PSU. lol

Cuzza
Aug 13, 2009, 05:32 AM
Don't throw away cases! I can't even find one!

eidairaman1
Aug 13, 2009, 05:42 AM
Actually its at 2200MHz or aka XP 3200+, it wont go further without better cooling for the motherboard.
oh yes, the socket A club is always on the lookout for pictures of pimped out socket A beasts. or whatever yours looks like



XP3200? hmmm. is that a kt400 board? that is the sort of board i need to get, or something else with 8x agp. i am crippling my vid card running at agp4x



:rockout::rockout: nice overclock!

JrRacinFan
Aug 13, 2009, 05:53 AM
Wow! Guess the Socket A club is alive n kickin' again! May have to look for some of my older stuff while packing for the move this weekend.

goldfries
Aug 13, 2009, 06:02 AM
I've handed my Socket A unit to my mother, it's slow but I think works fine for her web browsing. :D

Cuzza
Aug 13, 2009, 08:45 AM
Logic tells me to give mine to my Dad. But he hates computers, I don't think he has used one since about 1994. I'm going to look up overclocking for my ECS mobo.

H82LUZ73
Aug 13, 2009, 09:44 AM
I have my old system xp-Barton +2500 at +3200 still running up on my workbench,has x800Pro 1 gig ram and a 60 gig hard drive,ASUS A7v8x-x mobo in it .I still test with it like Windows 7 was running on it (RC Build) Ran better then Vista did lol .:rockout:

JrRacinFan
Aug 13, 2009, 01:41 PM
Logic tells me to give mine to my Dad. But he hates computers, I don't think he has used one since about 1994. I'm going to look up overclocking for my ECS mobo.

Check these out ... ;)

http://forums.ocworkbench.com/showthread.php?t=33787

Those are 3rd party modded bios' to facilitate overclocking. Need some info on volt and pin mods?

http://forums.ocworkbench.com/showthread.php?t=14132

tonyd223
Aug 13, 2009, 05:12 PM
My XP 3200+ is still running strong. It runs BF2 flawlessly and is my everyday computer. With that in mind, i am planning on upgrading to a core i5 system maybe four months after it comes out.. due to the lack of multitasking power.

If anyone is interested in pics, or whatever let me know as i will be cleaning it out soon.

YouKre still rocking a socket a as your main system? Wow! Post piccies please - you will not believe how much more fun BF2 is with a big monitor and a fast system. I still play it all the time but with my system I can ALT TAB to the desktop in less than a second to check email etc...

tonyd223
Aug 13, 2009, 05:13 PM
Ubuntu for old systems!

tonyd223
Aug 13, 2009, 05:15 PM
Ubuntu for all old systems - and dual boot on spare hard discs!

dchrsf
Aug 13, 2009, 07:27 PM
YouKre still rocking a socket a as your main system? Wow! Post piccies please - you will not believe how much more fun BF2 is with a big monitor and a fast system. I still play it all the time but with my system I can ALT TAB to the desktop in less than a second to check email etc...

Believe it or not mine takes about 3 seconds in and out of the game with a 5-sec pause after getting into BF2 again from the desktop to become fluid in FPS. Here are some pics (http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d104/dchrsf/Athlon%20XP/) that I just took. I still need to do some major dust removal.

tonyd223
Aug 13, 2009, 07:41 PM
That pc looks great for it's age and you've expanded it well. I need to get a power supply to rebuild my XP2600+, 2GB Ram, etc... Now, do I need a file server in the attic?

stinger608
Aug 13, 2009, 11:57 PM
XP3200? hmmm. is that a kt400 board? that is the sort of board i need to get, or something else with 8x agp. i am crippling my vid card running at agp4x


Yep, it is a kt400 board, running the 8x AGP. Let me check my old boards (several socket A's), I think I have another Gigabyte GA-7VAXP! These were some of the best enthusiasts board for overclocking, next to the Asus boards LOL. They support RAID 0, 1, and 5 also. Hell if I do have the second one, which I know I had for a spare:laugh: I would send it to you for the shipping cost man:toast:

department76
Aug 14, 2009, 12:10 AM
i'll join.

my first build ever was a 1.4ghz athlon, thunderbird core, asus mobo w/ via kt133 north bridge. easy to remember all that :-D

a couple years later i upgraded to an asus a7n deluxe and a 2500+ barton, oc'd to 2.0 or so. man were those bartons great. oh the good old days :-)


the system still lives, i gave it to my dad several years ago. it was lightly modded... could maybe get some pics for the sake of the club.

eidairaman1
Aug 14, 2009, 05:16 AM
Check these out ... ;)

http://forums.ocworkbench.com/showthread.php?t=33787

Those are 3rd party modded bios' to facilitate overclocking. Need some info on volt and pin mods?

http://forums.ocworkbench.com/showthread.php?t=14132

anything on the DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B

Ive been trying to get my system to push beyond 2.2GHz stabily, Ive seen some hit 2.7GHz and a rare 3.0GHz

I'd be happy if i could run at 2.5GHz 24/7 Gaming/Media Stable. Im unsure if its the CPU or if its the motherboard not liking the temps as Ive checked CPU temps and they seem to be fine where sys temps are high (could be the NB/SB or Volt controls for the CPU)

Cuzza
Aug 14, 2009, 10:36 AM
Pity the club founder is banned, no updates to the member list.:(

p_o_s_pc
Aug 14, 2009, 04:23 PM
I want to join i have a Sempron 3000+ and a cheap MSI mobo but its dead. I should have in a week or so another Socket A rig up to replace that one AXP3000+ and Asus mobo will post a CPU-Z when i get the stuff

Cuzza
Aug 14, 2009, 07:24 PM
Get JrRacinFan to put you on the list, it's on the 2nd post in this thread (I didn't look that far yesterday *facepalm*).

and feel free to use the club sigbar people

BTW I have downloaded a couple of hacked bioses for my ECS. have never played around with that sorta thing before so I'm a bit edgy, see how it goes

JrRacinFan
Aug 18, 2009, 11:23 PM
Yo POS! Remember that setup I PMd you bout? Well I gave it to my brother....

Athlon T-bird 900mhz
AsRock K7VT4A+
512MB PC2700
GF4 MX440 (Going to test my ti4200 in it)
3x 20GB WD Hdd's
LG 8x/32x Max CD Burner
@Power 500W Psu

Post us a CPUz pos when you get the parts. I will gladly add you to the members list.

p_o_s_pc
Aug 19, 2009, 12:49 AM
here you go Jr just for the recored i am using a AXP 3000+ CPU-z reads it as a 2800+ :wtf: i do have it slightly overclocked but not much because it is crunching 24/7 once i get everything going
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=661822

I am not using anything fancy here just a 80gb HDD and a 350w Antec smart power . No case ATM don't feel like digging one up :laugh:

JrRacinFan
Aug 19, 2009, 11:33 AM
Post 2 updated! ;)

EDIT:

Whoever I missed in the update that wants added please PM the link to your post #. Thank you! :D

p_o_s_pc
Aug 19, 2009, 01:27 PM
Jr I am using an Athlon XP 3000+ not a sempron anymore. could you please change that also if you wouldn't mind here is my new overclock http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=662637

JrRacinFan
Aug 19, 2009, 01:37 PM
Done! :)

p_o_s_pc
Aug 19, 2009, 01:38 PM
Done! :)

thank you :toast:

EDIT:what is a safe temp for 24/7 also safe voltage for 24/7? I want to push this higher but don't want to kill it

JrRacinFan
Aug 19, 2009, 01:40 PM
Safe voltage ... anything under 1.8v and 57C Orthos with a REALLY good air cooler. I have a Tt Volcano 7 on my tbird 900, its a 1.75v defaulter.

p_o_s_pc
Aug 19, 2009, 01:50 PM
Safe voltage ... anything under 1.8v and 57C Orthos with a REALLY good air cooler. I have a Tt Volcano 7 on my tbird 900, its a 1.75v defaulter.

i have a big stock cooler with copper slug using a higher RPM fan that i had laying around i hit around 61c linpack@ 1.7v maybe i will just do a suicide run

JrRacinFan
Aug 19, 2009, 01:54 PM
Your good to go for 24/7 man! Sounds really really nice!

p_o_s_pc
Aug 19, 2009, 01:59 PM
Your good to go for 24/7 man! Sounds really really nice!

thanks bro :toast: I left it crunching last night and was impressed compared to the sempron i ran before.speaking of the sempron i am going to test it later to see if it still works if so i am going to give it some voltage and see what it can do

JrRacinFan
Aug 19, 2009, 03:20 PM
thanks bro :toast: I left it crunching last night and was impressed compared to the sempron i ran before.speaking of the sempron i am going to test it later to see if it still works if so i am going to give it some voltage and see what it can do

Why dont you throw the Sempron my way. I know my brother would appreciate it. Also with an L5 mod i might be able to get more out of it. :)

eidairaman1
Aug 20, 2009, 07:38 AM
just to Refresh

really good source for Athlon CPUs


http://fab51.com/cpu/barton/athlon-e24.html

Cuzza
Aug 20, 2009, 08:09 AM
Oh yeah that is a handy little site. A bit of a rough Engrish translation going on there, but I'm understanding most of. Pretty serious. haven't got around to flashing my BIOS yet because it seems my floppy controller on the mobo is shagged! who ever heard of that?

eidairaman1
Aug 20, 2009, 09:43 AM
Just wish i could push mine further, I think its cooling on the mobo limiting the OC, as the Ram is designed to run at 500MHz, CPU is staying cool but i guess the NB/SB and VRMs cant stay cool enough, Also i have to run a Mod Bios otherwise it will be read as an unknown CPU at 2200MHz.

Melvis
Aug 20, 2009, 10:28 AM
Ill join, i have a Old Athlon XP 2100 @1.85GHz Thoroughbred, and also my m8 left his old Athlon XP 3200 Barton machine at my place and i think i own it now lol

IF any one wants any bench tests on these CPU's im up for it :toast:

JrRacinFan
Aug 20, 2009, 11:39 AM
What video cards are paired with those CPU's? I just wanna see the CPU score in 3dm06 to see how they fair against the modern day wolfdales(score is doubled due to dual, remember that).

Post 2 updated

Melvis
Aug 20, 2009, 11:54 AM
What video cards are paired with those CPU's? I just wanna see the CPU score in 3dm06 to see how they fair against the modern day wolfdales(score is doubled due to dual, remember that).

Post 2 updated

The 2100 is paired with a FX5700 128MB 4x AGP card, and the 3200 is paired with 6600GT 8x AGP

3DMark06 would be terrible lol, it be lucky if the 2100 machine will finish it with out crashing.

How about 3DMark05?

JrRacinFan
Aug 20, 2009, 11:57 AM
Sure! Would be interesting to see. Think you can hit 8-10k with those in 05? **nonchalantly sets a goal** :p

Melvis
Aug 20, 2009, 12:14 PM
Sure! Would be interesting to see. Think you can hit 8-10k with those in 05? **nonchalantly sets a goal** :p

lol ok, i can tell you now that the 2100 machine wont hit 8k at all, it just hits over 8k now on 3DMark2001 lol, the other system MIGHT hit 8k, we will have to see :)

JrRacinFan
Aug 20, 2009, 12:19 PM
lol ok, i can tell you now that the 2100 machine wont hit 8k at all, it just hits over 8k now on 3DMark2001 lol, the other system MIGHT hit 8k, we will have to see :)

Yah I was moreless just kidding around when I said it. I would be surprised if the Barton rig goes over 7. :cool:

Melvis
Aug 20, 2009, 12:46 PM
Yah I was moreless just kidding around when I said it. I would be surprised if the Barton rig goes over 7. :cool:

Yea i know :toast: Indeed i would be surprised if it hits over 7 also, i would have to put a HDD back into it, install a OS and also put some RAM back in to. If i have time ill do some OCing to ;) I wont be able to do the tests for awhile, but ill try to get them done asap

p_o_s_pc
Aug 20, 2009, 01:48 PM
Why dont you throw the Sempron my way. I know my brother would appreciate it. Also with an L5 mod i might be able to get more out of it. :)

I will consider sending it your way. I plan on getting in crunching if i can get a board for it. BTW it maxes alittle over 2.3ghz@1.75v thats 100mhz more then i got with my old board


EDIT:does anyone know of a good cooler for Socket A that you can still find? I'm thinking of throwing together a small WC loop when i get the money for it but would like to have air.(it does have holes around the socket)

eidairaman1
Aug 20, 2009, 03:48 PM
lucky you, my 2500+ M won't budge beyond 2.2GHz, Seems CPU stays cool but i think the System temp is what jumps High, System temp i believe is the Temp Reading for the Chipset/VRMs. Im really unsure why it won't go further than that.

JrRacinFan
Aug 20, 2009, 04:44 PM
@pos
http://www.xpcgear.com/zalmanzmwb2.html

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=367&products_id=25392&zenid=df7b7b522b65baa37c6ef4e6a05d80c3

http://www.directron.com/icextremeblue.html

Altho your best bet is to look for a Tt Volcano 11.

eidairaman1
Aug 20, 2009, 05:31 PM
@pos
http://www.xpcgear.com/zalmanzmwb2.html

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=367&products_id=25392&zenid=df7b7b522b65baa37c6ef4e6a05d80c3

http://www.directron.com/icextremeblue.html

Altho your best bet is to look for a Tt Volcano 11.

TR SI-97 or TT Big Typhoon, warning, both are a PITA to install

toastem2004
Aug 20, 2009, 05:57 PM
i'll throw my rig in here. I've got an Athlon XP 2400 (2.0ghz) on an MSI KT333 mobo. 1.5GB of pc2100, an MSI GeForce4 Ti 4400 (315/630). Finally updated it with a Sata card and an 80gb sata drive to make it last longer. It got just over 10K marks in 3dmark 01 and i think it managed somewhere in the 4200's on 3dmark 03.

I still have it around after initially building it back in 2002. It run windows 2000 as a base OS with a virtual Win 98SE for some older 2d games. Ran 24/7 for 3 years... went into a closet for a year, ran 24/7 again for another 2 years. Now it runs about 36-48 a week. up until a few weeks ago, it was still using the original 2 20gb segate hdd's.

Jack-O-Bytes
Aug 20, 2009, 10:05 PM
Hi guys can I join. I am currently using a Socket 462 running an Athlon XP 3200+ with a zalman heatsink and fan. :)

Melvis
Aug 21, 2009, 02:26 AM
Ok here is a screen shot of my old computers score in 3DMark2001SE.

System Specs are:

AMD XP 2100 OC to 1.85GHz
Nvidia FX5700 128mb
2x512 RAM Kingston 266MHz
80GB HDD
GA-7DXE Mobo

How do you run 3DMark05 with out going on the net to see the scores?

:toast:

Cuzza
Aug 21, 2009, 03:14 AM
Melvis you should hook yourself up a 2400+, I got mine on ebay, $10 imported from Hong Kong, those chinese have thousands of them.

Melvis
Aug 21, 2009, 03:37 AM
Melvis you should hook yourself up a 2400+, I got mine on ebay, $10 imported from Hong Kong, those chinese have thousands of them.

Yea i have looked into getting a 2400+ for this old comp ages ago since it was the max the Mobo could handle, but it was still selling for a high price, i saw a 3200+ sell for almost $200 back then on ebay, so i didn't bother and upgraded my 939 machine instead.

One day i will ;)

What does your system bench?

:toast:

Cuzza
Aug 21, 2009, 03:49 AM
only just got it installed in a case yesterday, haven't benched it. don't really plan to either

Melvis
Aug 21, 2009, 04:09 AM
only just got it installed in a case yesterday, haven't benched it. don't really plan to either

Fair enough, i only run 3DMark2001SE on this old machine since it cant realy handle much more, and its a small program, like 50MB to download and 15mins to run it, and ya done.

I just realized that my FX5700 is 128mb not 256mb :ohwell:

eidairaman1
Aug 21, 2009, 06:01 AM
look at the date codes of your CPUs to determine if they are unlocked. For 1 only Mobility SKT A parts are unlocked after Week 39 of 2003, Desktop SKT A parts are locked during/after that week.

http://fab51.com/cpu/barton/athlon-e24.html

If it was possible Id have another Unlocked 3200+ lying around, Unfortunately they were going for a pretty Quarter, so I bought 2 2500+ (Desktop and Mobility)

p_o_s_pc
Aug 21, 2009, 07:02 AM
i have noticed that with the AXP that when the settings are 12.5x176@1.67v it idles at 52c but when i get it to 10.5x210@1.67v idle is 77c :eek: is that right? should it do that?anyone else notice that?

eidairaman1
Aug 21, 2009, 07:24 AM
you have a 2100 Right? because for 1 Palmino/TBreds have a thin layer of metal where the barton is thicker, thus doesnt run as hot. I suggest you reseat the heatsink using quality thermal compound.

Melvis
Aug 21, 2009, 09:39 AM
i have noticed that with the AXP that when the settings are 12.5x176@1.67v it idles at 52c but when i get it to 10.5x210@1.67v idle is 77c :eek: is that right? should it do that?anyone else notice that?

Yea that's not right at all, i have a 2100 and it idles at around 34c and tops out around 40c, but i have changed the cooler to a AMD copper base cooler and that has brought my temps down from 38c idle and 45c load and my CPU has a mild OC to make the system run stable.

And make sure you put a very thin layer of thermal paste, to much and the temps will still show high as i have found out.

Jack-O-Bytes
Aug 21, 2009, 10:00 AM
I recomend the Zalman Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu. I have one like it but with the aluminium bit in the middle cooling my athlon xp 3200+ and it idles at 31c and on 100% use it is 37c. It is a great cooler.

Cuzza
Aug 21, 2009, 11:31 AM
I have used those Zalman coolers on several Socket A machines. they are excellent

p_o_s_pc
Aug 21, 2009, 02:28 PM
Yea that's not right at all, i have a 2100 and it idles at around 34c and tops out around 40c, but i have changed the cooler to a AMD copper base cooler and that has brought my temps down from 38c idle and 45c load and my CPU has a mild OC to make the system run stable.

And make sure you put a very thin layer of thermal paste, to much and the temps will still show high as i have found out.

i am using a copper base AMD cooler and it didn't help much...i have reseated it many times and still no good...

suraswami
Aug 21, 2009, 02:41 PM
i have noticed that with the AXP that when the settings are 12.5x176@1.67v it idles at 52c but when i get it to 10.5x210@1.67v idle is 77c :eek: is that right? should it do that?anyone else notice that?

Is it a Barton core? If so I say its right. My FIL's Barton XP 3000 idles at 52C and load is around 60C, upgraded from Thoroughbred Sempron 2500 which was also idling @ 48/49C and it has half the cache. This one has a CoolerMaster copper core and aluminum fin one and one of the best coolers for Socket A and very quiet too.

my old AXP Mobile 2400 @ 2.4Ghz and 1.65V also idles at 52C. This guy has full copper TT silenboost cooler (may be try this cooler).

Those guys run hot.

p_o_s_pc
Aug 21, 2009, 02:44 PM
yes it is Barton core. My Thoroughbred Sempron 2500 (i also have one)idles 42c@1.65v@2.1ghz loads at 60c

Melvis
Aug 21, 2009, 10:02 PM
i am using a copper base AMD cooler and it didn't help much...i have reseated it many times and still no good...

O ok gezzz :ohwell: Whats the fan speed? and do you live in a hot climate?

I will have to check what temps my m8s 3200+ Barton idles at to see if there is a massive difference. Im sure it idled under 40c.

p_o_s_pc
Aug 22, 2009, 01:13 AM
O ok gezzz :ohwell: Whats the fan speed? and do you live in a hot climate?

I will have to check what temps my m8s 3200+ Barton idles at to see if there is a massive difference. Im sure it idled under 40c.

100% don't live in hot climate and the AC is working overtime so its around 70f in here

Melvis
Aug 22, 2009, 03:43 AM
100% don't live in hot climate and the AC is working overtime so its around 70f in here

Weird :wtf:

p_o_s_pc
Aug 22, 2009, 03:49 AM
Weird :wtf:

not really worried about it right now. I am using my Sempron 2500+ with the same HSF and idle 48c load around 54-61c even overclocked. I see it as 2.2ghz sempron is about equal to a 2.2ghz AXP when it comes to crunching.I will get better cooler for it later on. unless someone can assure me that is a safe temp

aCid888*
Aug 22, 2009, 04:02 AM
I have a few Socket A systems laying around...

Duron "Morgan" 1.3GHz @ 1.4xGHz
Ahtlon XP "Thorton" 2400+
Ahtlon XP "Thorton" 2600+
Athlon XP "Barton" 3200+

No idea why I keep them around to be honest. :laugh:

p_o_s_pc
Aug 22, 2009, 03:57 PM
put them to crunching or send them to someone that will if you don't want to keep them. (PM me if you want to get some Socket A stuff out of the way i maybe willing to take some of it)
you have a 2100 Right? because for 1 Palmino/TBreds have a thin layer of metal where the barton is thicker, thus doesnt run as hot. I suggest you reseat the heatsink using quality thermal compound.

I have a AXP 3000+ Barton I have reseated many times. A few times using cheap paste other times using MX2

eidairaman1
Aug 22, 2009, 06:58 PM
only time my CPU would reach 50-60 Degrees was with the stock cooler, I replaced the fan as a temporary fix which worked but the SOB was like a jet engine.

p_o_s_pc
Aug 23, 2009, 09:51 PM
how do you guys feel about the Aerocool High tower 101 JR you think you has what it takes to cool a overclocked Barton?http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1391/cpu-aer-04/AeroCool_High_Tower_HT-101_JR_Heatsink_Pentium_4_Athlon_XP_AMD_64_.html?t l=g48c369s50

eidairaman1
Aug 23, 2009, 10:05 PM
shouldnt be a problem using that, just check clearances, id say its more about cooling the NB/SB and VRMs/Mosfets for a NF2 based motherboard, even the ram Mosfets

p_o_s_pc
Aug 23, 2009, 10:15 PM
shouldnt be a problem using that, just check clearances, id say its more about cooling the NB/SB and VRMs/Mosfets for a NF2 based motherboard, even the ram Mosfets

The NB has fan blowing on the heatsink and mosfets the ram isn't overvolted so they don't get vary hot.The SB I am going to put on a small heatsink or some ramsinks what everone i find laying around first but i may put some ram sinks on the mosfets anyways just to be sure. I still am considering watercooling. do you think that a dual 120mm rad would cool 2 Socket A CPUs?I am thinking of setting up 2 open rigs side by side and cooling a AXP 3000+@2.3ghz and a Sempron 2500+@2.2ghz with water.also any thoughts on direct die chilling(google it if you don't know what it is)

eidairaman1
Aug 23, 2009, 10:21 PM
I'm not sure about water cooling setups but air cooling, a TR SI-97/TT Big Typhoon kept the cpu pretty cool as long as ambient temps are ideal; that's the thing with any air cooler. Any who I've been trying to push my AXP-M 2500+ beyond 2.2GHz and it wont budge(BSODs even with volts cranked beyond desktop standard). The CPU stays cool but the System Temp (NB) seems to get pretty warm, I just need something to cool all those components I talked about earlier.

p_o_s_pc
Aug 23, 2009, 10:26 PM
the only problem with going air is its vary hard to find a cooler for Socket A that is still being sold. But also with Water both boards would have to have holes around the socket and the one i am looking to get doesn't

eidairaman1
Aug 23, 2009, 10:38 PM
ya they are far and few between, most of the coolers out there you would have to create a custom bracket for the hole mounted and clip on coolers.

p_o_s_pc
Aug 23, 2009, 10:50 PM
looks like the 101 JR is going to be my only choice for the Barton and for the Sempron I haven't a clue... maybe use the stock cooler (with the copper core)

eidairaman1
Aug 23, 2009, 10:55 PM
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=732

there is the database for OCs, I think I may have found the combo i need, 200x12.5 1.9 Vcore, just need to test it under XP environment with Proper drivers. BTW COD4 is very good indication of OC Stability

p_o_s_pc
Aug 23, 2009, 11:11 PM
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=732

there is the database for OCs, I think I may have found the combo i need, 200x12.5 1.9 Vcore, just need to test it under XP environment with Proper drivers. BTW COD4 is very good indication of OC Stability

i am going to try that myself when i get a better heatsink for my barton. I use OCCT linpack to test mine is that the best way to test Socket A rigs? I know its one of the best for the new rigs

eidairaman1
Aug 23, 2009, 11:14 PM
OCCT is known test, Prime95, Super PI, 3D M01-06. I also did a system analysis my Machines Composite score with the CPU increased from 3.6 to 3.9 with the Multiplier OC.

jeepdriver
Nov 21, 2009, 07:06 PM
cooltechpc lists a Nexus AXP 3200 cpu cooler. Anyone have one of these ? If so, is it worth buying ?

JrRacinFan
Nov 21, 2009, 07:08 PM
Link me. :)

jeepdriver
Nov 21, 2009, 09:20 PM
www.cooltechpc.com/c/ctpc/stdsku=axp-3200.htm

Jstn7477
Nov 21, 2009, 09:24 PM
www.cooltechpc.com/c/ctpc/stdsku=axp-3200.htm

Your link is broken.

http://www.cooltechpc.com/c/ctpc/std/sku=axp-3200.html

jeepdriver
Nov 21, 2009, 09:25 PM
Try this one. http://www.cooltechpc.com/c/ctpc/std/sku=axp-3200.html

stinger608
Nov 21, 2009, 09:59 PM
Solid copper base should work great for a Socket A cooler :-)

JrRacinFan
Nov 22, 2009, 04:14 AM
Would do very very well for Socket A. :)

PP Mguire
Nov 22, 2009, 05:42 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/068x.jpg

AXP 2600+ Barton 333FSB one
Leadtek 6800GT
1gb PC3200 dual channel
Shuttle nF2 Ultra 400 board

stinger608
Nov 22, 2009, 07:37 AM
Nice PP!!! Great to see other folks running these great old systems man!

That has me thinking lol, I am going to download 3dmark on my old socket A and run just to see what it gets lolol

eidairaman1
Nov 22, 2009, 08:02 AM
ya my system BSOD with a 8e in BF2 under 2.3GHz (200x11.5) on my AXP-M 2500+, had the VCore at 1.675 even for precaution. Had to drop it back to 2.2GHz

zithe
Dec 8, 2009, 06:32 PM
I've just put up my socket A stuff in my FS thread. Going to see if it OC's.

p_o_s_pc
Dec 8, 2009, 06:59 PM
ya my system BSOD with a 8e in BF2 under 2.3GHz (200x11.5) on my AXP-M 2500+, had the VCore at 1.675 even for precaution. Had to drop it back to 2.2GHz

I had my Barton 3000+ at 2.4ghz@1.7v folding and crunching stable...(if someone said that with the chips from S939 up everyone would lol at them)

eidairaman1
Dec 8, 2009, 11:29 PM
i blame VRM and NB cooling, i noticed cpu is cool (shot wth temp gun), but chipset runs hot

stinger608
Dec 9, 2009, 01:50 AM
I've just put up my socket A stuff in my FS thread. Going to see if it OC's.

I seen your for sale thread on your A stuff! Still some cool computer hardware:rockout:

p_o_s_pc
Dec 9, 2009, 03:18 AM
i blame VRM and NB cooling, i noticed cpu is cool (shot wth temp gun), but chipset runs hot

that could be possible. With mine i had some ramsinks on the VRMs with a 80mm fan over them and on the NB i replaced the TIM with MX-2 and put a 60mm fan blowing on it. To make it run even cooler i had alittle heatsink laying around that fit perfect on the SB it all of the "hot spots" got cooled...(sadly i was stupid and put too much force on the heatsink and killed board and crushed CPU)

eidairaman1
Dec 9, 2009, 04:07 AM
that could be possible. With mine i had some ramsinks on the VRMs with a 80mm fan over them and on the NB i replaced the TIM with MX-2 and put a 60mm fan blowing on it. To make it run even cooler i had alittle heatsink laying around that fit perfect on the SB it all of the "hot spots" got cooled...(sadly i was stupid and put too much force on the heatsink and killed board and crushed CPU)

Ya i killed a Perfectly good Unlocked 3200+ by slightly bending the Processor clip more so it would create more force. Thats why i have the 2500+ M, I also have a Spare Desktop 2500+, one day i will tweak this machine to the max, but for now money needs to go towards the Mega machine that is on the Phenom 2 OC club.

Cuzza
May 28, 2011, 11:58 PM
Well guys I have finally got rid of all my socket A stuff.
My system spec is changing for the first time in ages and the Socket A User Club sigbar will be disappearing forever.

Farewell Socket A and the glory days of AMD!

Here's the sigbar one last time:

http://tpucdn.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic40591_3.gif

Peace out Socket A Club

Cuzza

Melvis
May 31, 2011, 09:47 AM
Well guys I have finally got rid of all my socket A stuff.
My system spec is changing for the first time in ages and the Socket A User Club sigbar will be disappearing forever.

Farewell Socket A and the glory days of AMD!

Here's the sigbar one last time:

http://tpucdn.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic40591_3.gif

Peace out Socket A Club

Cuzza

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Ive still got a Socket A system here up and running that i give out to customers when i have to take there PC to be fixed.

It will still live for many yrs i think ;)

eidairaman1
Jul 15, 2011, 05:27 AM
Im really thinking of ditching the Nvidia Board for a Via based board cuz of driver issues in win 7 for the NV part. Screw NV n their quick removal of compatibility

jeepdriver
Jul 15, 2011, 10:00 AM
Socket A with some water. Yea, I know I need to perform some cable management and shorten a hose, getting to that........