X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

[DanishDevil]

So is Aluminum or Copper better for cooling?

This:
Copper (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118116)
OR
This:
Aluminum & Copper (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118116)

Copper by no doubt. For cooling a GPU, the most important thing to do it to get the heat away from the core. Therefore, copper works best.

[DanishDevil]

@DanishDevil U sold me on the Zalman vf-700-Cu. Sounds like a quality product and u got good results w/ it. Gonna grab a zalman soon.

@both Rubber bands rox. LOL

I used rubber bands to make my rendition verite v2100 hella fast w/ a pentium heatsink rubberbanded on. Used same trick to attach backside junker heatsink on celery 300A@450 to get 504mhz. Celery got too hot and broke my rubberbands. She never did 504mhz again, but I got smart and used some chic's ponytail hair bands. Given the speeds and heat of the GTO, I'll be forced to find another chic's ponytail hair bands.

I haven't gotten the ZALMAN yet, 522/618 is on stock cooling (my case temps are the same as ambient room temps because my computer is a friggin icebox). I'll be sure to post how much the ZALMAN helps though. Glad to hear about the Zalman, not so glad to hear about those rubber bands . . . BTW, why the hell would it be so hard to get a hair band? I'm friends with like 200 chicks at my school that would be glad 2 gimme one :confused:

[Dr.D]

I am gonna go for the Ati Silencer 5 (rev2) as soon as my freaking card comes in

[mascaras]

nothing its better than WC , 30c idle 37 load :D with a 30 dolars water block and 4 ramsinks of zalman and its ok with default clocks (500/500), wait more time and put a water sistem in you computer, with 150 dolars you can a good kit wc.:toast:

[Dr.D]

I dont have 150 and once I do it wont go to my comp:slap:

[DanishDevil]

I am gonna go for the Ati Silencer 5 (rev2) as soon as my freaking card comes in

Why? The Zalman will outperform it in EVERY aspect but ambient temperature.

[kotetu]

Yeah I have heard both sides as well, I think you just have to get lucky. Because ATACOM doesnt have my x800gto2 I am prolly gonna get the fireblade

I ordered from Allstarshop on the 24th and the card arrived today. Cost me $286US though. >_<


Oh well! With luck it will perform like it's $500 brother. ^__^

[Dr.D]

Why? The Zalman will outperform it in EVERY aspect but ambient temperature.

Because it pumps hot out OUT of the case thats kind of important especially with a hot dell

[DanishDevil]

Because it pumps hot out OUT of the case thats kind of important especially with a hot dell

Gotcha. With my computer, ambient temperature isn't a problem. I have a ThermalTake Armor, and . . . well, let's just let these picture speak for themselves.

http://www.nbpdexplorers.com/DANISH/TechPowerUp%20Pics/Comp%20Pix/

So hey, for me the Zalman is the best option. GL with the Arctic Silencer, and be sure to let us know how the experience works out for ya.

[Excalibur800GTO]

Hi Guys,

Is it possible to try flashing other X800 GTO cards with modified BIOS? I am thinking of trying it on HIS Excalibur X800GTO ICEQ II card. It has R480 core and comes with a better cooler and can be overclocked.

Any suggestions about what BIOS I shall try?

Cheers

AP

[DanishDevil]

Find out the speed on the memory and I'll tell ya (1.6ns, 2.0ns, etc). This will tell you what the card is capable of reaching memorywise, and what other card it is closest to.

[DanishDevil]

I have done some research, and I can't find out what type of memory that is. 3DGameMan got it up to 515/575 if memory serves me right. That's a little under what I'm running. Of course, he didn't try the pixel pipeline mod.

My suggestion is: If you would be happy with that HIS card with 12 pipes, then go ahead and get it. Be sure to back up the old BIOS, and try the mod. I would try it with the X800GTO2 BIOS (R480 Core). Good luck to ya. Be sure to let us know how it went!

[mascaras]

the HIS card have 1.6ns memorys for me its de best GTO card (with no MOD) , already have a UV vga silencer , you can try the GTO2 bios , maybe like in GTO fireblade, the card acept the bios but dont unlock the pipelines but for those ppl who dont want MODS the HIS card its a excelent choice, here a pic of HIS x800GTO with UV vga silencer >>> http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/3654/his7xs.th.jpg (http://img491.imageshack.us/my.php?image=his7xs.jpg)

[ShadowFlare]

You said your card has an R480 chip. Did you find that by using a program or did you actually take the heatsink off? If you took off the heatsink to find that, but the software says it is an R423, then flashing to the GTO2 bios would likely help with performance. If the software alreadys says it is an R480, the only thing flashing could do is possibly unlock pipelines (if they are unlockable).

Post a picture of the fuses data in ATITool. :)

[mascaras]

the HIS card have the r480 but the saphire fireblade also have the r480 and with the MOD dont unlock the pipelines but the card acept the bios , like i said before try the MOD with GTO2 bios and see if the card acept it , if not flash back again to the original bios.

[thetoad30]

Hi all, it's me again! :)

Ok, I RMAed my last card and got a cross-ship. I now have another GTO2 and I have left everything stock. I immediately put the memory up to 591 since I know the card can handle that.

I let ATI Tool do the "Find Max Core" and it got up to 605 with 12 pipelines!!! :) MUCH BETTER than the 462 I was getting with intermittent lockups.

So ATI Tool told me after the reboot that the max working speed was at 589. I have currently backed the card down to 576/591 so that I can have some headroom.

I have been running the scan for artifacts now for 15 minutes and no problems at that speed.

Here's my question: Can a bios flash cause the card to immediately become unable to clock above 450 or so? Or is it more possible that my last card was just bad?

When using flashrom to go back to the 12 pipelines from my backed up bios, could it have left the other 4 pipes on but not used in the bios? Could that have caused my problem if one of the pipes wasn't up to snuff?

I ask this because stupidly I never tested the OC of the first card at stock cooler and bios before flashing.

Thank you

[pkilway]

Hi;

I got the Sapphire X800GTO2 'Retail Lite' version. If I try to flash up to 16 pipes (using Sapphire.X800GTO2_16p.Samsung16.bin and flashrom16) I get:

BIOS DEVID= 0x5D4F
ASIC DEVID= 0x5D4F
Exsisting SSID= 0x1600
New SSID= 0x0302

and says I would need to force the flash.

Is it supposed to do this? (the article doesn't mention needing to 'force' the flash). I don't see anyone else mentioning this problem flashing their GTO2 cards.

Is this because it's a 'retail' instead of EOM card? Is it safe to force the flash?

Thanks;

I forced the flash last night myself. Was successful, then booked into XP to see only 8 pipes show up in the ATITool. Reboot then double check, and all 16 pipes showed up then.

[jtf2]

i have a quick ?.is this mod meant for the pci version of the sapphire cards or will the agp version also be moddable
thnx

[DanishDevil]

As far as I know, there is no AGP version of the card.

[jtf2]

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16647&vpn=SP-X800GTO256E-OEM&manufacture=SAPPHIRE
is this not the card

[DanishDevil]

Guess so, but the fact is, if that card needs the extra molex power to run with 12 pipelines at stock speeds, will it be enough with pipelines unlocked and overclocked (if the pipelines can even be unlocked). If it has an R480 Core, try it. If it has an R423 core, try it. If not, it's most likely not gonna unlock.

[jtf2]

thnx for the info,afaik i have yet to see an ati card that has required 2x molex connectors,
nvidia cards i have seen but not any ati

[DanishDevil]

Yeah, well the fact is, the nVidia 6800GT and 6800Ultra GPUs are power hogs. This required the AGP versions to be supplied with dual molex power. ATi went ahead with its PEG Power Connector for its PEG cards, and nVidia followed.

[Dynamic]

Is anybody using the PCI-E power connector that came with their video card box? I'm using the PCI-E power connector that came with my PSU. I mean when i looked at it, only two wires available for the C3D GTO? Is that good enough, a yellow and black wires? So who's using what and have they seen any power issues or what not?

[Megatron]

Ordered a connect3d, will post results when I get the card.

[DanishDevil]

Is anybody using the PCI-E power connector that came with their video card box? I'm using the PCI-E power connector that came with my PSU. I mean when i looked at it, only two wires available for the C3D GTO? Is that good enough, a yellow and black wires? So who's using what and have they seen any power issues or what not?

I am now using the cable that came with my card. I am ordering one from ULTRA for my X-Connect PSU. I will try to overclock higher before I install my Zalman. I'll post my results here.

[breethon]

I recevied my Connect3d x800gto from Newegg yesterday, unlocked 16p like a charm! IT says I have the R480 core...not sure if I do or not. This is my 3rd try at modding my vid cards. I had the 9500 non pro, the 9800SE, and now this. This is the only one that truely worked flawlessly.....ROCK ON!

[Ombracol]

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16647&vpn=SP-X800GTO256E-OEM&manufacture=SAPPHIRE
is this not the card
That is not the gto 2

[Ombracol]

Is anybody using the PCI-E power connector that came with their video card box? I'm using the PCI-E power connector that came with my PSU. I mean when i looked at it, only two wires available for the C3D GTO? Is that good enough, a yellow and black wires? So who's using what and have they seen any power issues or what not?
i dont have the c3d but i have the gto2. I'm using the cable that came with the card no issues there and my psu is only 375w. card runs great with 3 hardrives intalled and 2 dvd roms and tv tuner and 2 case fans and psu fan all set at 100% oh yeah and my speaker system that that gets power from the back of my psu its just 2 speakers and a sub.

[DanishDevil]

i dont have the c3d but i have the gto2. I'm using the cable that came with the card no issues there and my psu is only 375w. card runs great with 3 hardrives intalled and 2 dvd roms and tv tuner and 2 case fans and psu fan all set at 100% oh yeah and my speaker system that that gets power from the back of my psu its just 2 speakers and a sub.

What are your complete specs? I'm gonna try and find a link that I had a while ago . . . it gave you spots to fill in everything you had, and it told you the approx. power consumption of all of it.

[Cubewood]

Hi i just tryed flashing my GTO² and something is wrong.

I made a floppy bootable, and putted the 3 Flashrom files:

Flashrom
FLASHROM.CHG
FLASHROM.ROM

on the floppy.

Then i did the Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin on the floppy and renamed it to gto16pipe.bin.

I rebooted my comp and went in the boot menu.
Typed Flashrom -p 0 gto16pipe.bin and it gave this error:

ERROR OFL01

Im a noob in this stuff and i hope someone can help me and knows what i do wrong.

Thnx.

[DanishDevil]

Try using: Flashrom -f -p 0 gto16pipe.bin

The -f forces it to flash.

Follow this page exactly:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/vidcard/34/8

GL and HF!

-=DaNiSh+DeViL=-

[Cubewood]

Ok thnx i will try it.

*Edit¨

It worked, thnx :D 16 pipelines now :)

Now i need to try some overclocking!

*edit*

This is the first time i ever overclocked something, but i cant get that high.
I got a Zalman VF700-CU on the graphic card but it still gets verry hot.
I connected it on the black 12volt connector so it should be at full speed.
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/8987/atitool3qd.jpg

Is it normal that it gets that the temps get that high, or did i instaled the fan wrong?

And what Temps + Clockspeed do you guys get?

[thetoad30]

Does anyone have any answers to this???

Hi all, it's me again! :)

Ok, I RMAed my last card and got a cross-ship. I now have another GTO2 and I have left everything stock. I immediately put the memory up to 591 since I know the card can handle that.

I let ATI Tool do the "Find Max Core" and it got up to 605 with 12 pipelines!!! :) MUCH BETTER than the 462 I was getting with intermittent lockups.

So ATI Tool told me after the reboot that the max working speed was at 589. I have currently backed the card down to 576/591 so that I can have some headroom.

I have been running the scan for artifacts now for 15 minutes and no problems at that speed.

Here's my question: Can a bios flash cause the card to immediately become unable to clock above 450 or so? Or is it more possible that my last card was just bad?

When using flashrom to go back to the 12 pipelines from my backed up bios, could it have left the other 4 pipes on but not used in the bios? Could that have caused my problem if one of the pipes wasn't up to snuff?

I ask this because stupidly I never tested the OC of the first card at stock cooler and bios before flashing.

Thank you

[DanishDevil]

Ok thnx i will try it.

*Edit¨


It worked, thnx :D 16 pipelines now :)

Now i need to try some overclocking!

*edit*

This is the first time i ever overclocked something, but i cant get that high.
I got a Zalman VF700-CU on the graphic card but it still gets verry hot.
I connected it on the black 12volt connector so it should be at full speed.
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/8987/atitool3qd.jpg

Is it normal that it gets that the temps get that high, or did i instaled the fan wrong?

And what Temps + Clockspeed do you guys get?

Did you use Arctic Silver 5 or the thermal paste that Zalman supplies? Those temps look great. The OC on the core doesn't though, but hey try this. Set your memory to stock and just try to overclock the core. if it produces artifacts, lower it until it doesn't. It could just be a bottom of the barrel core . . .

60C load at 522/618

[Cubewood]

I uses the Zalman supplies. IT helps much if i use Artic Silver 5? Then i just buy it tommorow, and check if it lowers the temps much.

When I'm playing Brothers in Arms Earned In Blood, with all details high i get 57° too. Is that high or normal?

Will try the overclocking on the way you say it. Hope it gets higher.

Dont know much about this overclocking because I always had a Geforce 4 MX 4400 :P

[DanishDevil]

That is normal. Arctic Silver 5 helps. GL.

[Ombracol]

What are your complete specs? I'm gonna try and find a link that I had a while ago . . . it gave you spots to fill in everything you had, and it told you the approx. power consumption of all of it.

364.7 w max
+5---22a +5vsb---1.8a
+12-1 --12a +12v-2----12a
+3.3---20a +12v-sp-----1.2a
-12v----0.2a

I know I cant use an nvidia card with this psu

[Cubewood]

Ok will buy it as soon as posible.

Now i got core at 429 and allready 59°

*edit*
500/520

Max Load:65°

Think I will keep it like this, till I get the Artic Silver 5.

[Sejanus]

Hey folks, thought I'd post my results with the Connect3D GTO

Important note: I *am* using a ASRock 939 Dual SATAII motherboard, bios 1.20

I was pretty nervous reading about all the problems folks have had with this card, mysterious crashes, and this motherboard.

The important bits of the rest of my rig:

X2 3800+ (currently not OC'd--that's next!)
Connect3D GTO 256MB PCIe unlocked to 16pipes, running at 560/560, using powercable included with the Connect3D retail package, and stock cooling
XP Service pack 2
2x512mb of PCIq DDR400 memory
Ultra X-Connect 500watt powersupply
Ultra Red Dragon midtower case (nice big puppy for lots of airflow) w/2-4 80MM case fans
I do have some case fans and a cpu fan that are all positioned just right to blow on the backside RAM, and give the card some extra cooling.

3DMark05 benches:

Connect3D GTO 12pp 400/490: 4436
12pp 520/560: 5478
16pp 400/490: 4961
16pp 560/560: 6314

Well, overclock-wise, that's even better than the stock x800xt, and *so far* it seems stable (knock on wood).

Question:
I didn't really check temps before flashing to 16pp, but at stock speeds and 16 pipes, it runs at 76C under load. Is this good/bad/normal? OC'd, it doesn't seem to run more than 1C hotter. I'm not really comfortable replacing the heatsink on the card, so I'd like to know what temps I should be aiming for.

Oddity:
I purchased my card from Newegg. It was supposed to be new, retail box. It came and was not in shrinkwrap. I opened it, and the antistatic bag and the manuals, none of that was sealed. The bag looked even like it had been untaped once already, and there may have been a fingerprint on that diagonal metal strip on the back of the board. I'm thinking I got someone's return. Of course, if it remains stable and those temps are good temps, I'll keep it, but it really kinda steamed me that I'd be paying for new, and getting used.

Thanks a lot Wizz and to the other posters on this board!

[Muk]

Has anyone successfully modded an AGP x800GTO?

[p0lly]

Ok will buy it as soon as posible.

Now i got core at 429 and allready 59°

*edit*
500/520

Max Load:65°

Think I will keep it like this, till I get the Artic Silver 5.
Cubewood,

Set your fan higher!!! you will be able to go WAY HIGHER than 500... In ATItool click on settings (bottom right corner) and then select "Fan Control" from the pull down menu. Here you can set the fan speed... (NOTE: 90% yields almost NO difference from 100% and it is not as loud)

[Cubewood]

Its allready on 100% :(

[p0lly]

Its allready on 100% :(
There must be a problem with the contact between your heatsink and core... if you would be willing to take it off, check to see if the paste is evenly spread. if it is thick on one side and too thin on the other, this may suggest that the sink is not sitting on the core flat. proper contact can make a difference of more than 20 deg. if the sink is not on properly

[kohan69]

sorry for my lame html skills, but here ya go:

[kohan69]

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System:

Amd64 3000+ Venice 2.2ghz
htt 245 mhz
1.5gb ram (2x512 + 2x256) 333mhz
dfi lanparty ultraD nf4
Windows 2000 sp4
Psu: Ultraconnect 500w xconnect
Hd: Seagate 7200

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[ranigapc]

My Sapphire GTO2 did not unlock. I ran ATITool and the CONFIG_DIE_FUSES is 0xFFFFBFFF (should be "F" and not "B") and the CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES is 0xFFFFFFF9E (should be "F" and not "E"). I tried flashing it anyways and of course it did not work. Any harm in leaving this bios, or do I need to reflash with the old bios?

I guess the success rate isn't 100% anymore. :shadedshu

[BlackPearl]

Sorry to hear that. Where did you buy your card?

[thetoad30]

Interesting.

Are you sure that it's a GTO2? That would be my only guess as to why it didn't flash... as I have gotten 2 cards now that were fine for flashing, but the first card I got didn't OC worth a damn.

I just received my RMA card and it is running like a champ at 575/591 at 16 pipes. I could go up to 590 on the core but it starts getting a little flaky even though ATI Tool reports no artifacts. Besides, that's 35 MHz over the XTPE speed I was looking for anyway!

Man, does it pull a lot of power at that speed though.

One last question that hopefully someone will answer: What is the danger in taking the memory above 590? I know it's rated for 600, but if it will go higher is that ok? Or will the memory just cook itself? I'm just thinking that if you can overclock the core, why can't you overclock the memory? Unless GPU's are different than CPU/DDR components.

Thank you

[kohan69]

My Sapphire GTO2 did not unlock. I ran ATITool and the CONFIG_DIE_FUSES is 0xFFFFBFFF (should be "F" and not "B") and the CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES is 0xFFFFFFF9E (should be "F" and not "E"). I tried flashing it anyways and of course it did not work. Any harm in leaving this bios, or do I need to reflash with the old bios?

I guess the success rate isn't 100% anymore. :shadedshu

did u use flashrom16?

is it gto2 LITE?

[mongoled]

There must be a problem with the contact between your heatsink and core

There dosent have to be a problem! Not all cores run the same temperature. My Connect3D GTO with default cooler, fan 100% and AS5 would also run 76C full load, I hope you are not going to tell me that I also have bad contact with the core.

Now if you said 'there could be a problem' then I would whole heartedly agree. There seems to be peeps on this brd who are 'scaring' others into thinking their cards will burn-up

:laugh:

Oh and just for the record after slapping my block on, my card runs at 44C load, big difference, LOL

[Dynamic]

Check this out, i ran Aquamark3 just a few minutes ago and got a crash at "Massive OverDraw" with my C3D GTO @16pp 540/560.

http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aquamarkcrash6bc.jpg

WTF? Everything else works perfect, weird shit dudes, what the hell is that shit?

[JimmyHa]

Ebola,

Do you have any optimised timings for us poor bastards using C3d X800GTOs? :respect:

[kapeeteeleest_peeg]

I have a connect3d x800gto on order and was wondering... does this card 'only' come with r423 core?. I ask this because some ppl are reporting r480 cores on this card.

Also, Im lookin forward to flashing this card to 16 pipes, but the default bios on the site doesnt change clocks to x800xt specs :(

Can anyone recomend a bios that enables 16 pipes & gives x800xt clocks and if possible, keeps 'vivo' enabled.

For £113 I'd be happy with 16 pipes, 500 core/ 1000 mem & vivo!

Great site & Info btw... & of course wot a mod!

Come on ATi!, bring out x1800xt with 32 pp's! and vanquish that nVidia trash!!! lol

[Ebola]

Ebola,

Do you have any optimised timings for us poor bastards using C3d X800GTOs? :respect:
Well those timings are hours of efforts from an XS member, you should try yourself with 2.0ns by decreasing them gradually and check when it becoms stable

[Ebola]

My Sapphire GTO2 did not unlock. I ran ATITool and the CONFIG_DIE_FUSES is 0xFFFFBFFF (should be "F" and not "B") and the CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES is 0xFFFFFFF9E (should be "F" and not "E"). I tried flashing it anyways and of course it did not work. Any harm in leaving this bios, or do I need to reflash with the old bios?

I guess the success rate isn't 100% anymore. :shadedshu
Are you sure you have the Limited Edition and not another one, which name is so close but so different inside ?

[Cubewood]

I changed the air tunnel whats in my Antec Sonata II Case, and now i got 520/590 clock speeds at 62°

If i put the core on 530 the screen freezes and turn black :( Maby if i use Artic Silver 5 now i can get it some higher.

[DanishDevil]

Check this out, i ran Aquamark3 just a few minutes ago and got a crash at "Massive OverDraw" with my C3D GTO @16pp 540/560.

http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aquamarkcrash6bc.jpg

WTF? Everything else works perfect, weird shit dudes, what the hell is that shit?

AquaMark 3 doesn't work properly with the new ATi Drivers. I will upload the file you need to fix it soon.

[ranigapc]

I bought it from Page Computers who were selling it as "Retail Lite". It came in a brown box with the card, manuals, cables, and drivers CD. I've had it for almost a month now, but didn't try to unlock it until yesterday. Before I installed the card, I removed the stock heatsink and put a Zalman VF700-cu HSF on it. The stock heatsink looks like everyone elses - says "Sapphire GTO^2 Limited Edition", red colored, etc. The core is R480 and the memory is 1.6ns. I tried flashing with flashrom and the bios provided from this site.

This sucks :(

[DanishDevil]

Well, try it again. Make sure you're not making any mistakes. If you aren't, then this mod isn't 100% anymore :(

[ranigapc]

I used Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin and Flashrom. Since it didn't unlock, do I need to reflash with the original bios, or should I be okay the way it is?

[Dynamic]

Yeah, i got it working, it needed a .dll file hotfix for Aquamark3. So far i got my C3D GTO working guys, 520/520, 540/560, and testing 550/565 right now.

C3D GTO @16PP 550/565 w/ ASRock 939Dual-Sata2 Bios: 04xx
AquaMark3
GFX:11721
CPU:11819
Score:78356

3DMark05: 6426

[mascaras]

hey guys , i make my 2nd run on 3dmark 2005 now with clocks 530/530- 49c LOAD >>> http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/278/3dmaek20059yl.th.jpg (http://img344.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmaek20059yl.jpg)

and here my previously 1run at default clocks (500/500) >>> http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark0tz.jpg


and here my temps. default clocks scaning for artefacts( 2minuts - one of the best way to see LOAD temps) >> http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/9527/x800full0zg.th.jpg (http://img497.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x800full0zg.jpg)

[mascaras]

I have a connect3d x800gto on order and was wondering... does this card 'only' come with r423 core?. I ask this because some ppl are reporting r480 cores on this card.

Also, Im lookin forward to flashing this card to 16 pipes, but the default bios on the site doesnt change clocks to x800xt specs :(

Can anyone recomend a bios that enables 16 pipes & gives x800xt clocks and if possible, keeps 'vivo' enabled.

For £113 I'd be happy with 16 pipes, 500 core/ 1000 mem & vivo!

Great site & Info btw... & of course wot a mod!

Come on ATi!, bring out x1800xt with 32 pp's! and vanquish that nVidia trash!!! lol
yep its r423 and im using other bios , not that one that its here , im using the powercolor x800xt bios that change the clocks to defult (500/500)

[ShadowFlare]

I recevied my Connect3d x800gto from Newegg yesterday, unlocked 16p like a charm! IT says I have the R480 core...not sure if I do or not. This is my 3rd try at modding my vid cards. I had the 9500 non pro, the 9800SE, and now this. This is the only one that truely worked flawlessly.....ROCK ON!
What bios did you flash to the card? I'm interested because I've wanted to know whether flashing R480 bioses to an R423 works or not.

[Ombracol]

What bios did you flash to the card? I'm interested because I've wanted to know whether flashing R480 bioses to an R423 works or not.
I'm not sure but this off the top of my head I think i have read something about r480 being backwards compatible with r480 i will try to confirm

[ShadowFlare]

I'm not sure but this off the top of my head I think i have read something about r480 being backwards compatible with r480 i will try to confirm
You mean r480 being backward compatible with r423? I posted something about that a little while ago. I've been curious if it works the other way around, though. Here's my thread about it: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6081


BTW, does anyone know if there are some X800 GTO cards with R480 chips that are being identified by software as R423? I know there are some X800 GT cards like this, so I've been curious about the GTOs. Here is a thread having to do with the Powercolor X800 GT, which is like that: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6056

[Dynamic]

To the person that has gotten a none 16pp status flash, how did you flash?

Flashrom -f -p 0 (moddedbios.bin) -newbios <----- This worked for me, but after booting into windows, it counted 0pp, so i had to reboot one more time to get the 16pp.

Flashrom -f -p 0 (moddedbios.bin) <---This didn't do a damn thing for me, no matter what i couldn't get the 16pp, only set 12pp.

[kohan69]

I used Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin and Flashrom. Since it didn't unlock, do I need to reflash with the original bios, or should I be okay the way it is?

LITE = BAD ;)

try using flashrom16

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=41687

[mascaras]

To the person that has gotten a none 16pp status flash, how did you flash?

Flashrom -f -p 0 (moddedbios.bin) -newbios <----- This worked for me, but after booting into windows, it counted 0pp, so i had to reboot one more time to get the 16pp.

Flashrom -f -p 0 (moddedbios.bin) <---This didn't do a damn thing for me, no matter what i couldn't get the 16pp, only set 12pp.


i only rename the powerclor x800xt bios to "XTbios.bin" and then use : " -f -p 0 XTbios.bin" , and it works for me and i didnt have to flash back to original bios.

[ranigapc]

Do you mean I should download flashrom16p.zip? Should I use the same bios (Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin)? And is there really a point in trying if ATITool already says it can't be unlocked? Thanks

[DanishDevil]

And is there really a point in trying if ATITool already says it can't be unlocked? Thanks

Answer me this ranigapc. Do you want an extra four pixel pipelines? Do you want to get X850XTPE performance out of a $200 card? I sure did. If I was in your situation, I would find a way to make the mod work, or prove it can't. You are a very special person to this community. You supposedly have the only heard of unmoddable X800GTO2. We need your results ;)

BTW: I'm ordering my Zalman VF700-CU LED Cooler TODAY I SWEAR. I am also getting an Enermax Liberty 620WATT Modular PSU and I am sleeving it myself with Ogre Sleeving and UV Green Heatshrinks. I will also be putting an ACRyan UV Blue/Green 120mm LED Fan in it. I'll post pix and details when I get modding.

Enermax Liberty:

http://www.pro-clockers.com/images/enermax%20liberty/ps_620awt_1_big.jpg

Ogre Sleeving (on Antec NeoPower 480 with ACRyan UV Green Fan):

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/images/large/products/Antec_Kryptonite_1_t_05_LRG.jpg

[ranigapc]

Okay, I'll do it, but please give me detailed instructions on what I should do and what tools I need because I am a total newbie at all of this. Also, this card is in a computer I built for my dad, which he uses for business, so I don't want to screw it up. :)

[BlackPearl]

The detailed bios flash instructions are provided in W1zzard's article (the first post of this thread). I hope that it works for you, but in that article, specifically the "Is my card moddable" section, he says that only cards with fuse configuration strings containing "F" in the noted positions are moddable. You have already noted that your card doesn't have that. Yours is actually the first report I've seen of a GTO2 with different strings from those shown in the guide. Both of my cards had the configuration shown in the guide and modded easily using the exact steps from W1zzard's article. Please let us know what you decide to do and how it turns out. Good luck.

Edit: It's interesting to note that when I scanned the fuse configuration reporting thread I saw that the people who reported the same configuration strings as you had Sapphire X800GTO (not GTO2).

[Ombracol]

You mean r480 being backward compatible with r423? I posted something about that a little while ago. I've been curious if it works the other way around, though. Here's my thread about it: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6081


BTW, does anyone know if there are some X800 GTO cards with R480 chips that are being identified by software as R423? I know there are some X800 GT cards like this, so I've been curious about the GTOs. Here is a thread having to do with the Powercolor X800 GT, which is like that: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6056
yeah thats what i meant sorry

[Dr.D]

ranigapc I saw your posts on FatWallet!

Oh and atacom finally shipped my card

[Dr.D]

Well my card comes in on wensday. In the mean time can someone give me the exact code used to flash in flashrom?

Thanks

[BlackPearl]

Here (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/vidcard/34/8) is W1zzard's bios flash guide.

[DanishDevil]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5215

Zalman VF700-CU LED, TechFlex Ogre Sleeving Kit, Enermax Liberty 620W PSU, and ACRyan ToolX PSU Modding Tools ORDERED. HOOAH! (sry I'm an America's Army player).

[ranigapc]

Maybe they mislabeled it and sent me a GTO, instead of a GTO2. The stock heatsink; however, says "GTO2 Limited Edition". Also, I reflashed the bios using atiflash and the original bios and now it says "X800 GTO" under Device Manager.

I've used flashrom16 as well as atiflash 3.09 (using -newbios) along with the bios provided on the first page of this thread. Neither worked. I don't think there is much else I can try. Oh well, it's stable at 507/1040, so at least I got a X850 Pro out of it. :toast:

[DanishDevil]

Yeah without the 4 pixel pipelines. Oh well. I guess we can conclude that this mod is no longer 100% :(:(:(

[Megatron]

Ordered a connect3d, will post results when I get the card.

Ive just installed my c3d x800gto - ran 3dmark2k5 with 12pipe to check for any problems. I flashed it to 16-pipes using the techpowerup! guide and ran 3dmark2k5 again 5147 stock clocks. Beats the x800gt powercolor clocked at 595/530 @ 8pipes, was 47xx.

12pipes was 4590 400/980Mhz
16pipes 5147 400/980Mhz

Check my sig for details.

[Cubewood]

I bought Artic Silver 5, and put it on my GPU. Its allready 8° lower then before, and on their webby it says that after 200 its at its full cooling power, so it can go even lower! :D

*Edit*

Card is running at 530/610 now, with 60° Max Load. If I put core on 540 screen turn black :( Will get the mem some higher later :)

[HousERaT]

Well my card comes in on wensday. In the mean time can someone give me the exact code used to flash in flashrom?

Thanks
Here's another guide I wrote up if you still don't get it.
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4029036&postcount=272

[Ombracol]

I bought Artic Silver 5, and put it on my GPU. Its allready 8° lower then before, and on their webby it says that after 200 its at its full cooling power, so it can go even lower! :D

*Edit*

Card is running at 530/610 now, with 60° Max Load. If I put core on 540 screen turn black :( Will get the mem some higher later :)
Try the mem timings from xs. I had my gto2 at 554 614 and 3dmark05 was 6118 twaeked the memory timing and my clock went lower to 552 600 but my 3mark05 score was higher at 6224 got an extra 3 to 5 fps on all test..

[Dynamic]

It seems as if some of those GTO2 from Sapphire won't hit XTPE core speeds, but there is no problem with 590 frequencies on the memory modules. I got my C3D GTO at 550/565. I will get artifacts at 570 on the memory, i guess 2.0ns usually hits around here. I do have the ZALMAN VF700-CU cooler on along with the heatsinks for the memory, but didn't notice any different in overclock for the memory or core i guess. I did see temps go down though. Also when i flashed to 16pp i didn't lose any core/memory speeds either. weird, hehehe since most of you have and the articles around the web have also.

[ShadowFlare]

My GTO2 is one that didn't change temperatures or overclocks after flashing to a 16 pipeline modified bios.

[Cubewood]

Try the mem timings from xs. I had my gto2 at 554 614 and 3dmark05 was 6118 twaeked the memory timing and my clock went lower to 552 600 but my 3mark05 score was higher at 6224 got an extra 3 to 5 fps on all test..


What do you meen with "Try the mem timings from xs" ?

[Ombracol]

What do you meen with "Try the mem timings from xs" ?
use ati toolhttp://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55485
TRCDRD: 7
TRCDWR: 3
TRP: 5
TRAS: 13
TRRD: 4
TWR: 6
TR2W: CL+2
TW2R: 4
TR2R: USE TWR RULE
TR2R: 2
WR_LATENCY: 1.5
CAS_LATENCY: 7
CMD_LATENCY: 0
STR_LATENCY: WR LATENCY
REFRESH_RATE: 0x75
TRFC: 23

[Cubewood]

use ati toolhttp://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55485
TRCDRD: 7
TRCDWR: 3
TRP: 5
TRAS: 13
TRRD: 4
TWR: 6
TR2W: CL+2
TW2R: 4
TR2R: USE TWR RULE
TR2R: 2
WR_LATENCY: 1.5
CAS_LATENCY: 7
CMD_LATENCY: 0
STR_LATENCY: WR LATENCY
REFRESH_RATE: 0x75
TRFC: 23
Damn i did this, and now i keep getting artifacts, can someone give me the old settings?

[Ombracol]

Damn i did this, and now i keep getting artifacts, can someone give me the old settings?
yeah you need to reduce your clocks trust me even though your clocks are lower ,performance is still better cause its more efficient try lowering your clocks and test with 3dmark05 its free if you dont have it..... and if you art not satisfied just reboot your computer factory settings will be restored

[Biggeley]

I have a Sapphire GTO2. I have only been able to hit 525/615 stable, even with an Arctic 5 rev 2 on it. The Arctic cooler didn't seem to gain me any additional headroom in overclocking.

I'm fairly disappointed that I can't overclock the core any faster, even with the super-duper cooler. Volt-modding to 1.4v only make things worse... Temps stay below 57c the whole time.

I pulled the pre-built computer apart and discovered that the power supply is a 300w max rated. I keep wondering if an inadequate power supply could be limiting my success with the card... Does anybody think a better power supply could lead to stable performance at higher speeds?

[Ombracol]

I have a Sapphire GTO2. I have only been able to hit 525/615 stable, even with an Arctic 5 rev 2 on it. The Arctic cooler didn't seem to gain me any additional headroom in overclocking.

I'm fairly disappointed that I can't overclock the core any faster, even with the super-duper cooler. Volt-modding to 1.4v only make things worse... Temps stay below 57c the whole time.

I pulled the pre-built computer apart and discovered that the power supply is a 300w max rated. I keep wondering if an inadequate power supply could be limiting my success with the card... Does anybody think a better power supply could lead to stable performance at higher speeds?
very possible cause as you increase clocks the card is gonna draw more watts and if your psu cant supply enough power it will decrease your performance all i know ati recomends 350 or better.... but you do have to realize not all cards are equal these are cores that did not meet specs for the high end x850xtpe so it is sometime based on luck....also check your case temp i got a big increase by getting my case 10 degrees cooler .....when my case was at 38-39 idle ic ould only clock 520/588..... cranked up my fans got case to idle at 30 now i get 552/600 i can go higher with out the tweaked memory timing but those seem to work better for me... remember 57 is a good temp but it is still a great amount of heat so the cooler the air in the case the heat sink will cool down better so that 57 degrees can transfer to the heat sink better..... hope it makes since

[Cubewood]

yeah you need to reduce your clocks trust me even though your clocks are lower ,performance is still better cause its more efficient try lowering your clocks and test with 3dmark05 its free if you dont have it..... and if you art not satisfied just reboot your computer factory settings will be restored

Ok no Artifacts at 530/600 now, will try 3DMARK05 now and check if i get a higher score.

*Edit* got 6471 now, and before i had 6392. So looks nice :)

[kohan69]

Ive just installed my c3d x800gt - ran 3dmark2k5 with 12pipe to check for any problems. I flashed it to 16-pipes using the techpowerup! guide and ran 3dmark2k5 again 5147 stock clocks. Beats the x800gt powercolor clocked at 595/530 @ 8pipes, was 47xx.

12pipes was 4590 400/980Mhz
16pipes 5147 400/980Mhz

Check my sig for details.

Connect3d GT or connect3d GTO ????

[Trevor]

Hi all, it's me again! :)

Ok, I RMAed my last card and got a cross-ship. I now have another GTO2 and I have left everything stock. I immediately put the memory up to 591 since I know the card can handle that.

I let ATI Tool do the "Find Max Core" and it got up to 605 with 12 pipelines!!! :) MUCH BETTER than the 462 I was getting with intermittent lockups.

So ATI Tool told me after the reboot that the max working speed was at 589. I have currently backed the card down to 576/591 so that I can have some headroom.

I have been running the scan for artifacts now for 15 minutes and no problems at that speed.

Here's my question: Can a bios flash cause the card to immediately become unable to clock above 450 or so? Or is it more possible that my last card was just bad?

When using flashrom to go back to the 12 pipelines from my backed up bios, could it have left the other 4 pipes on but not used in the bios? Could that have caused my problem if one of the pipes wasn't up to snuff?

I ask this because stupidly I never tested the OC of the first card at stock cooler and bios before flashing.

Thank you
Toad, I had the EXACT same problem!
Not quite sure why =/

[Trevor]

Ok here goes.

One more question: How do I tell that its definately a GTO2 card and not a GTO? I know that by being able to mod it should "tell" me, but the sticker on the card says its just a regular one, where the box says GTO2. Is that perhaps a problem?

Thank you for all your help.
Toad... the cover of the GTO2 (on the actual card itself) (the cover on top of the aluminum HS/F device) will say what the card really is.

[Dr.D]

I have a Sapphire GTO2. I have only been able to hit 525/615 stable, even with an Arctic 5 rev 2 on it. The Arctic cooler didn't seem to gain me any additional headroom in overclocking.

I'm fairly disappointed that I can't overclock the core any faster, even with the super-duper cooler. Volt-modding to 1.4v only make things worse... Temps stay below 57c the whole time.

I pulled the pre-built computer apart and discovered that the power supply is a 300w max rated. I keep wondering if an inadequate power supply could be limiting my success with the card... Does anybody think a better power supply could lead to stable performance at higher speeds?

Do you have a dell by any chance?

[Megatron]

Connect3d GT or connect3d GTO ????
2nd option

[riotsquad]

I was able to get my connect3d gto up to 16 pipes.
Current specs
core 551
mem 551
temp 42 idle
I have had them both up to 570+ but it runs a little hot on stock cooling.

3d mark-6344
3000 venice @ 2160mhz
2.5 3 3 6 ram @ 200
dfi lanparty ultra

[Reservoir_Dog]

Hi

I already have a x800pro VIVO succesfully modded to a X800XT Pe. (full 16 pipes)

Is it worthwile to go for the x800GTO2 and mod it to a X850XT pe?
Or is the X850XT pe not faster then my X800XT pe 520 560?

Greetings!

[p0lly]

Hi

I already have a x800pro VIVO succesfully modded to a X800XT Pe. (full 16 pipes)

Is it worthwile to go for the x800GTO2 and mod it to a X850XT pe?
Or is the X850XT pe not faster then my X800XT pe 520 560?

Greetings!
the stock 850XTPE speeds are 540/590... if you were to up your current speeds to those, they should perform very similar if not identical. because of your question, i assume you are new to OCing (WELCOME!!!)... you could increase your speeds two ways (1) use atitool in windows starts up, or (2) modify your current bios to reflect the new speeds and re-flash (you obviously know how to flash)

cheers

[p0lly]

WEIRD ATITOOL ISSUE!!!

I ran "find max core" (for the first time) yesterday on my GTO2 and went for dinner. came back and it was at 644 stable at 60C on stock cooling (artifact free) and still going! now this is WITHOUT a voltmod... THERE IS NO WAY THAT IS CORRECT!!! i then ran it at that speed for an hour without a problem and my heat never went above 60C.

is this a problem in 0.24??? has anyone ever experienced incorrect reporting of the core??? my fan also turns off every now and then for no reason - another issue???

[BlackPearl]

Hi

I already have a x800pro VIVO succesfully modded to a X800XT Pe. (full 16 pipes)

Is it worthwile to go for the x800GTO2 and mod it to a X850XT pe?
Or is the X850XT pe not faster then my X800XT pe 520 560?

Greetings!
No, it would not be worthwhile. While benchmark scores could improve a little, you would be very unlikely to notice a difference in games.

[Dynamic]

Reservoir_Dog,
There is not much difference in speed when you compare the X800XTPE to the X850XTPE, only in benchmarking within 50-70 points difference or more. Just like BlackPearl has mentioned, you won't notice any difference in games either.
BlackPearl,
Just out of curiosity, do you have an ASRock 939Dual-Sata2 or get on OCWorkbench.com? I thought i've seen you around or even mentioned to you that you can mod your Connect3D GTO card once in that forum, let me know.

[kohan69]

WEIRD ATITOOL ISSUE!!!

I ran "find max core" (for the first time) yesterday on my GTO2 and went for dinner. came back and it was at 644 stable at 60C on stock cooling (artifact free) and still going! now this is WITHOUT a voltmod... THERE IS NO WAY THAT IS CORRECT!!! i then ran it at that speed for an hour without a problem and my heat never went above 60C.

is this a problem in 0.24??? has anyone ever experienced incorrect reporting of the core??? my fan also turns off every now and then for no reason - another issue???

u got lucky

nope, u got lucky one guy hit 630core, 670 w/ voltmod
try again ;) and 60c is too high

vga fan turns off when card is cool

[Cubewood]

60° for max load isn't high.

[BlackPearl]

p0lly - I can't say whether ATITool is wrong, but if it's not those are amazing clocks. As far as I know I never had a problem with temp reporting, but I use 0.25beta7. Also, I don't think that 60C under load is high at all, but I've never had the gpu fan shut down. The default fan speed according to ATITool is 54% and from the utility you can set other fixed or dynamic fan speeds.

Dynamic - yes, I'm using the Asrock board and been on the OCWB forum from time to time.

[p0lly]

kohan69,

60 is a good temp... if you look at the temps that x800's put out strait from the box, 75 should be your max temp to keep the card running well. i have seen quite a few threads that ask what is a good temp... if you want a reference point, go with what the manufacturer gave you - anything lower is better.

back to my core issue... there is no way i'm running those speeds without artifacts... has anyone encountered that problem before (atitool giving the wrong info)?

EDIT: BlackPearl, I'll try the beta and see what happens...

[DanishDevil]

p0lly,

Run 3DMARK05 for me and see what kind of score you get. The fan issue stems from what I beleive a bad fan choice for the card (and the power of the extra pipes combined with the shitty included power adapter).

I'll see if switching over to a diff. pwn adaptor helps later today. My Enermax Liberty is here!!!

[Dynamic]

DanishDevil,
So you're not using the PCI-E power connector from the GTO2 box anymore? Are you using the six wired connector from your PSU now? Three wires wasn't enough since it might of caused that problem for you?

Polly,
Those are some insane frequencies, it's got to be a bug or something, dude don't miss with that shit, hehehe.

[DanishDevil]

I will be once I get my Enermax Liberty 620W sleeved and modded.

Also, I would be finding the max OC with the new memory timings, but I'm waiting on my Zalman. The friggin video card fan died on me, so I literally pried off the aluminum cover off the video heatsink to expose the fins, and i stuck a Vantec UV Fan Card under it. 40 Idle 65 Load (on lowest setting cuz I can't stand noise).

100+ POSTS IN UNDER A MONTH! HOOAH! -sry bout the random outburst :D

[Biggeley]

Do you have a dell by any chance?

Nopers.. It's an emachines.. Has good hardware (pc 3200, athlon 64 3500+, ati rs482 mobo) but just a not great power supply.

[ShadowFlare]

p0lly,

Run 3DMARK05 for me and see what kind of score you get. The fan issue stems from what I beleive a bad fan choice for the card (and the power of the extra pipes combined with the shitty included power adapter).

I'll see if switching over to a diff. pwn adaptor helps later today. My Enermax Liberty is here!!!
Yes, do that and post your score and what gpu/memory clock speeds were in use. Maybe even post a screenshot of it with the score. The score you get I think should at least approach or exceed 7000 with those clock speeds. Mine gets 6250 at 520/600 and about 5000 at stock 400/490.

[XeoNoX]

Got my Connect3d GTO 256MB PCIx today and modded it. Got the R423 Chip. I got the core up to 560 before i stopped it because the temperature of 76 with stock cooling was scaring me and i got the memory up to 550. Im gonna need to buy better cooling. Im gonna get the zalman fan. But what ramsinks do you guys reccomend? Since im lazy, how many ram sinks should i buy?

3DMARK05 Scores Below
_____________
5419 with a x800 XL that i returned back to bestbuy
4590 with C3D x800 GTO stock speeds
5172 with C3D x800 GTO 16 Pipe mod at stock speeds
6277 with C3D x800 16 Pipe mod Overclocked to 520/540
???? (unknown) with overclocked to the max cuz i have to buy better cooling 1st!


----------------------------
System Specs
----------------------------
Athlon 64 3500+ Venice (939 Pin)
ECS Nforce4-A939 Motherboard (Cheap)
420W Power Supply (Cheap)
Connect3d X800 GTO 256MB Modded (what a Deal if i ever heard one)

[funkioto]

But what ramsinks do you guys reccomend?

Just came back to ask the exact same question! :)

are these decent? http://www.zalman.co.kr/upload/product/zm_rhs1_c_p.jpg

thanks

[noneed4me2]

:laugh: Hey wWizzard and to all other potential modders Locutus12's iso/bios mod for gto's worked flawlessly on my C3d x800gto card. Now have 16 wonderful pipes of lovin. Just thought everyone should know. :rockout: PS i used this iso because my new pc has no floppy and was having difficulties unlocking my bios using the flashrom from other boot options after following the techpower's guide.

[p0lly]

Yes, do that and post your score and what gpu/memory clock speeds were in use. Maybe even post a screenshot of it with the score. The score you get I think should at least approach or exceed 7000 with those clock speeds. Mine gets 6250 at 520/600 and about 5000 at stock 400/490.
I don't know how to take a screenshot but i just ran 3D05 @ 625/590 and got 6487. i'm kinda scared to run it at the speeds that ATItool says. i'm gonna try the 0.25 beta and see what kinda clocks i get with that... HOPEFULLY something a little more realistic.

[XeoNoX]

what zalman fan is everyone getting, i see they have my boy fatal1ty http://www.3gplaza.com/estore/control/Computer3G/productdetails?id=44272&srccode=PW

and they got these http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/search.asp?s=VF700-CU

and do they come with the ram heat sinks?

[kohan69]

kohan69,

60 is a good temp... if you look at the temps that x800's put out strait from the box, 75 should be your max temp to keep the card running well. i have seen quite a few threads that ask what is a good temp... if you want a reference point, go with what the manufacturer gave you - anything lower is better.

back to my core issue... there is no way i'm running those speeds without artifacts... has anyone encountered that problem before (atitool giving the wrong info)?

EDIT: BlackPearl, I'll try the beta and see what happens...


60c on load is ok for stock when IM ocing (c3d 16p 580/580) at 63c it crashes/freezes

620+mhz on core is NOT a mistake of atitool
Some other ppl got it too:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1087538#post1087538

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1087569#post1087569

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1097399#post1097399

:respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect:


ad here's a guide i made for noobs ;)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1114939#post1114939

[noneed4me2]

unless you want to go the mod route wth the gtos, this card is a great deal even without the rebate http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1476859&CatId=0, in case the link doesn't work its the Connect3d X800 XL for 229.00 minus $100 rebate $129.99 at tigerdirect.com while supplys last. Kinda wish they had this when i got my card but at least i got the vivo option.

[Pourya]

I flashed the BIOS with both the AtiFlash and the modded FlashROM. I am still getting 12 Pipes in the ATI tool. I had the F numbers in the correct spots. The retail box of the card says GTO2.

In DOS after I flash it with the -f switch (which I had to do) it tells me the following

ROMID=12
FlashType = ST M25P05/c
SSID=0x1600
DeviceID=0x5d4F

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!

please contact me by email, AIM or repost here.

[DanishDevil]

Get the Zalman VF700-Cu. It comes with some of the best ramsinks you can buy.

GL Guys!

Danish

PS: Still waiting on my VF700-Cu.

[dpadmore]

unless you want to go the mod route wth the gtos, this card is a great deal even without the rebate http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1476859&CatId=0, in case the link doesn't work its the Connect3d X800 XL for 229.00 minus $100 rebate $129.99 at tigerdirect.com while supplys last. Kinda wish they had this when i got my card but at least i got the vivo option.

Uh-huh. Only small problem you seem to have missed is that to qualify for the rebate you need to purchase a X-fire master card at the same time as the X800XL. That makes it a tad more pricey. There is a box on the right hand side of the page breaking this good news. Dont forget that a std XL R430 core will only be really happy at less than 450MHz and your R423 core should be a much better clocker so I wouldn't pine after an XL too much if I were you. My C3D GTO arrived 10 mins ago and once modded my bbATI XL is going straight to ebay.

[Cubewood]

Hi last time someone gave me this mem settings:

use ati toolhttp://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55485
TRCDRD: 7
TRCDWR: 3
TRP: 5
TRAS: 13
TRRD: 4
TWR: 6
TR2W: CL+2
TW2R: 4
TR2R: USE TWR RULE
TR2R: 2
WR_LATENCY: 1.5
CAS_LATENCY: 7
CMD_LATENCY: 0
STR_LATENCY: WR LATENCY
REFRESH_RATE: 0x75
TRFC: 23

And i saved it but i keep getting artifacts now. If I reboot my comp i still got the same settings, and I tryed reinstaling ATItool, but it wont help.
Can someone plz give me the normal settings from the GTO² ?

Thnx.

[DanishDevil]

GUYS:

Just like memory, when you tighten up the timings, you have to lower the frequency. Set the memory to 490MHz and then find Max Mem with the new timings. The result will be much lower, but you will get more performance out of it.

[Ombracol]

Hi last time someone gave me this mem settings:



And i saved it but i keep getting artifacts now. If I reboot my comp i still got the same settings, and I tryed reinstaling ATItool, but it wont help.
Can someone plz give me the normal settings from the GTO² ?

Thnx.
you shouldnt be getting the same timings when you reboot... because timings are inside bios. atitool just changes them for the time windows is running its just like when you change your clocks when you reboot clock go to stock... you might be loading a saved profile thats why you might get the same memory timings as for artifact a slight temp chang in air temp can cause artifacts since you are overclocking to its peak...I wish i had the stock but i dont Ii do have most of them i just not sure about the refresh rate cause the bios editor that i have does not show me but i can garuntee you when you reboot you are getting stock timings ...

[Excalibur800GTO]

Hi Guys,

I shall be trying to mod my Excalibur 800 GTO IceQ II. I could not read details of memory since there is a RAM heat sink glued on it (comes with card). Card comes with overclocking software so I will first see how far I can go without mods.

Any other tries on other GTO cards?

Cheers

AP

[mascaras]

hi guys , more good news , i install the omega drivers modified and i won 230k more in 3dmark2005 with same cloks its unbelivble:

>>> older drivers (560/560) >>>> http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/9463/3dmaek20057oh.th.jpg (http://img284.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmaek20057oh.jpg)


>>>modified drivers (560/560)>>>> http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/5075/3dmaek20058wn.th.jpg (http://img484.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmaek20058wn.jpg)


:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Dynamic]

I don't know for some reason i can't get the OMEGA DRIVERS to work with my setup. I don't even know why he still has "FASTWRITE" options on there since over majority of people are on PCI-E which doesn't have anything to do with GART or FASTWRITE anymore. When i install it and come back it does the same thing, still looking for the drivers even though it's installed, oh well, i'll just settle for original 5.10 Catalyst. Strange though...

[kohan69]

I don't know for some reason i can't get the OMEGA DRIVERS to work with my setup. I don't even know why he still has "FASTWRITE" options on there since over majority of people are on PCI-E which doesn't have anything to do with GART or FASTWRITE anymore. When i install it and come back it does the same thing, still looking for the drivers even though it's installed, oh well, i'll just settle for original 5.10 Catalyst. Strange though...


uninstall all drivers

get drivercleaner 3.3
remove any trace of ati

instlal latest omega's

NO fastwrite

[Maksim]

Hey guys, anyhow im trying to OC my Sapphire GTO, mine is the AGP version and as far as i can tell it is not capable of being unlocked to 16 pipes (running 12 pipes now), the stock mem is 400mhz and mem is 490, ive seen on most forums that people can push the core to 500+ range but mine craps out around 473mhz, my screen goes black and the monitor blinks as if it is turned off with no video signal but i think windows is still running, i checked the temp and whenever it would go out the temp was never higher then 50c the fan is set to 100%, the memory i can push to 520 succesfully i have not tried pushing it any higher, as of right now it is 460/520. I am wondering if the core is not getting enough power when i OC it, i have a 300w PSU but i only have a HD and a CD drive hooked up besides the GTO (it does require a molex connector which i did hook up) so i dont know if i dont have enough juice or if the the R430 core (ati tool shows it as a r430 core i have not yet taken off the heat sink and fan to look at the GPU verify) is not that great of an overclocker. I also tried using the Trixx software that came with the GTO and whenever it tests maximum core and mem it pushes the core all the way to 540mhz and the computer is fine and does not freeze up but once it reaches 50% on the test it drops down to the default 400mhz, it does the same thing for the memory as well it will get up to about 530mhz and then go back down to 490mhz, and then i get the message that "Under extreme settings your max core is 399.98 and Mem 490" why does it give me that message if it can push both the mem and the core higher, and why doesnt it make my computer lock up like ATI tool? Ideas anyone?

P.S. went from a radeon 9800 pro and my 3dmark scores went from 5568 to 9982..:rockout:

[Excalibur800GTO]

Hi Guys,

Excalibur 800 GTO IceQ can not be modded for 16 pipes. Its a great card though, I am running it at 525/525!!

Cheers

AP

[BlackPearl]

Maksim - congratulations on your new card. If your GTO has the R430 core and 2.0 ns memory, I don't think that your o/c numbers are terrible. Since that core and memory are also used in XL's, I think that you could expect similar o/c performance. That said, it sounds like your PSU could be minimum for your rig so it may be possible to squeeze more from the card with an improvement there. In any event, you already have great performance.

[DanishDevil]

Obviously not 3DMARK05. Thanks for letting us know Excalibur.

I have received my sleeving, and it looks awesome. Keep an eye on my post in the worklog forum the next few days.

[Dynamic]

kohan69,
I don't think it makes a difference really. Since i've changed the ID/Frequency of my GTO to X800XT might have something to do with it. I've installed/Uninstalled drivers for so long that i was shocked when the Omega 5.10a drivers wouldn't work. Which would be the "Radeon Omega Drivers 2.6.75a (Catalyst 5.10a)" and i used Cat Uninstaller, but i'll try what you suggested, but i know it wouldn't matter, quite fishy to be honest.

[ShadowFlare]

kohan69,
I don't think it makes a difference really. Since i've changed the ID/Frequency of my GTO to X800XT might have something to do with it. I've installed/Uninstalled drivers for so long that i was shocked when the Omega 5.10a drivers wouldn't work. Which would be the "Radeon Omega Drivers 2.6.75a (Catalyst 5.10a)" and i used Cat Uninstaller, but i'll try what you suggested, but i know it wouldn't matter, quite fishy to be honest.
What kind of GTO? One that has an R480 core or R423/430? (you've probably mentioned it, but I don't want to search for it right now) If it is one with an R480, you'll take a performance hit simply by identifying it as an X800 XT.

[mascaras]

kohan69,
I don't think it makes a difference really. Since i've changed the ID/Frequency of my GTO to X800XT might have something to do with it. I've installed/Uninstalled drivers for so long that i was shocked when the Omega 5.10a drivers wouldn't work. Which would be the "Radeon Omega Drivers 2.6.75a (Catalyst 5.10a)" and i used Cat Uninstaller, but i'll try what you suggested, but i know it wouldn't matter, quite fishy to be honest.

dynamic not that omega drivers use this one 5.9 modified :) >> http://downloads.guru3d.com/downloadget.php?id=1196&file=4&evp=49eb488273abb6256db7e6d0ba7b13c4 >>> you gona have a big surprise when you run 3dmark :toast:

[Dynamic]

Okay, i feel like an idiot;guess? Okay the procedures for installing Omega worked, but very unstable for me so i just went back to Catalyst 5.10 after having a big crash in Call of Duty which i haven't had since i got my GTO stable. Just like the Author said, don't use "ATI TOOL" because it may interfere with the tweaks he has in the Omega drivers. Either that or the things that he has done to the drivers doesn't work for my particular setup. Beside i get no gain anyway in the benchmarks, at least 3DMark05 since that's the only one i've tried. Forget it!

Connect3D X800 GTO
R423 Core and 2.0ns Samsung memory @16pp 550/565 stable with 5.10 ATI Catalyst Drivers

[mascaras]

try that ones that i sayd >>>> http://downloads.guru3d.com/downloadget.php?id=1196&file=4&evp=49eb488273abb6256db7e6d0ba7b13c4

[DanishDevil]

New clocks with modified memory timings:

522/583 (vs. 522/618)

[mascaras]

i can get 570 in core but in the memory only 585 with my conect3 d but nothing of modified memory timmings( i dont even know what that is )

[DanishDevil]

Don't worry about it. It's only for the X800GTO2.

My card is getting really shitty frames now. I'm just gonna take it easy until my Zalman arrives.

[Dr.D]

Need help guys:
I checked and my card is unlockable when I try to flash it I get a error like this

Serial ROM
"gto2.bin" File Open error

ERROR 0FL01 Press "1" to continue [I get a beep to]


I am typing this:

flashrom -f -p 0 gto2.bin

P.S I finally got my card from ATACOM, Oh and I a using my floopy drive for my boot disc
the name of my bios file is really "gto2.bin"

[Ombracol]

I don't know for some reason i can't get the OMEGA DRIVERS to work with my setup. I don't even know why he still has "FASTWRITE" options on there since over majority of people are on PCI-E which doesn't have anything to do with GART or FASTWRITE anymore. When i install it and come back it does the same thing, still looking for the drivers even though it's installed, oh well, i'll just settle for original 5.10 Catalyst. Strange though...same issue here only now i cant intall anything except the 5.8 driver that comes in the sapphire cd it wont let me intall catalyst says canot complete install try using standard vga driver

[Dynamic]

Ombracol,
That's strange, cause i went right back to my old drivers "Catalyst 5.10". Did you uninstall your drivers, reboot, then use Driver Cleaner? I don't understand why you have to use 5.8, check it out, should work man. Make sure you clean all the drivers out, ATI, ATI WDM, CCC, ect... Good Luck.

[Dynamic]

try that ones that i sayd >>>> http://downloads.guru3d.com/downloadget.php?id=1196&file=4&evp=49eb488273abb6256db7e6d0ba7b13c4

Hey i have a feeling that something is going to be not right with any of the Omega drivers. Now is the 5.10a only for X1800, no? You can use any version really, but it has more impact on the X1800 since it fixed the OPENGL at high res aa/af issue. I'll just stick with the Cat 5.10, thanks anyway. Maybe i'll give it a try later but i'm really tired of installing/uninstalling drivers right now, hehehe.

[Muk]

Hey guys, anyhow im trying to OC my Sapphire GTO, mine is the AGP version and as far as i can tell it is not capable of being unlocked to 16 pipes (running 12 pipes now), the stock mem is 400mhz and mem is 490, ive seen on most forums that people can push the core to 500+ range but mine craps out around 473mhz,

Those are good clocks for a R430. Which bios did you try flashing to? Since its AGP, it might need a bios from a similar AGP card... Youre the first Ive seen to try this mod on an AGP. Thanks.

[XeoNoX]

Even after buy the Zalman VF700-CU fan and using arctic 5 paste for my C3D x800 GTO card, my temperature was still around 45C idle and went as far up to 77c and i had to stop the finding of my max core. After thinking what to do i came to the conclusion of trying a "Coolmaster 2500 RPM 80x80x25mm" (about $7.00) regular case fan that was laying around and stuck it next to the video card. Boy was i surpised. My idle is now at 34c and my Load never went past 67c, average load was about 63C. That was a 13c plus drop in temerature!!! Pictures of what i did below.

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/8489/coolmaster13oa.jpg

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/8895/coolmaster29ea.jpg


Anyways, after all that hassle, it was worth it as i got to find out my max!!!

618 Core / 555 memory!!


To be on the safe side i dropped everything by 15.


3DMARK05 Scores Below
______________________
5419 with a x800 XL that i returned back to bestbuy
4590 with C3D x800 GTO stock speeds
5172 with C3D x800 GTO 16 Pipe mod at stock speeds
6803 with C3D x800 16 Pipe mod Overclocked to 600/540


AND IM STILL USING DDR 2100!!!!

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/6883/3dmark6rn.jpg

[Dynamic]

XeoNoX,
That's a great idea, i would post a picture of the setup on my rig, but don't have my Digi with me right now. I got a 120mm High speed fan just right above the PCI-E slot. So it's actually hitting CPU, RAM, CHIPSET, and ram's on the back of video card with the Zalman heatsinks i got on there. At first i had my mind set on the CPU, Ram overclocking, as you can read i've missed a very important factor, but i have 2x80mm fans in the front that's bringing nice cold air to my video card as we speak. It really shines when the temps are low here where i live and you can feel the breeze behind you from the window, hehe.

CPU:26c Chipset:25c Power Regulators:26c GPU:31c GPU Envir:29c all on IDLE...6 Fan Case for yeah!

[Maksim]

Muk,

I didnt do a bios flash for my card, but im wondering if i do one i could increase the voltage for the GPU and maye it would stop crapping out, but seeing as it is an XL core ( i still have not taken off the heatsink to confirm this but seeing the default clock speeds they do match the XL) i doubt i would still be able to push it as far, it seems i can push my memory now to around 530mhz and i bumped up my core to 465, still smokes my old radeon 9800 pro. Now the X800 XL where exactly does it fall in the X800 Line up? :confused: I looked at ATI's web site and it's above a X800 Pro and below a X800 XT, would it be viable for me to get a XL bios and possibly this would let me push my GTO clock speeds higher? The only problem being that the XL is 16 pipes and mine is 12.....ahh the agony...:banghead:

[Dynamic]

Muk,

I didnt do a bios flash for my card, but im wondering if i do one i could increase the voltage for the GPU and maye it would stop crapping out, but seeing as it is an XL core ( i still have not taken off the heatsink to confirm this but seeing the default clock speeds they do match the XL) i doubt i would still be able to push it as far, it seems i can push my memory now to around 530mhz and i bumped up my core to 465, still smokes my old radeon 9800 pro. Now the X800 XL where exactly does it fall in the X800 Line up? :confused: I looked at ATI's web site and it's above a X800 Pro and below a X800 XT, would it be viable for me to get a XL bios and possibly this would let me push my GTO clock speeds higher? The only problem being that the XL is 16 pipes and mine is 12.....ahh the agony...:banghead:

X800XL Specs: 16PP 400 Core and 500x2 Memory, i thought. By the way on that AGP card you don't have a Molex connector for power do you? If you don't i don't think you can do anything with it, since it would be useless without that extra power it needs to function how you want it. Good Luck though...and here is the line up for the Radeons...

Radeon X850 XT PE R480 256MB DX 9.0b 540 1180 256 bit 16
Radeon X850 XT R480 256MB DX 9.0b 520 1080 256 bit 16
Radeon X850 Pro R480 256MB DX 9.0b 507 1040 256 bit 12
Radeon X800 XT PE R423 256MB DX 9.0b 520 1120 256 bit 16
Radeon X800 XT R423 256MB DX 9.0b 500 1000 256 bit 16
Radeon X800 Pro R423 256MB DX 9.0b 475 900 256 bit 12
Radeon X800 XL R430 512MB DX 9.0b 400 1000 256 bit 16
Radeon X800 XL R430 256MB DX 9.0b 400 1000 256 bit 16
Radeon X800 R430 256MB DX 9.0b 390 700 256 bit 12

[DanishDevil]

I personally would stick with buying the Connect3D X800GTO or the Sapphire X800GTO2 cards. These are the only cards that we offer modded BIOSes for, and are *almost* guaranteed to work.

Happy OCing!
-=DaNiSh+DeViL=-

[mascaras]

hi guys , dont forget that you have to instal framework 1.1 , or you could get freezes and other prblems , i only remind of this now but its never too late so get framwork 1.1 and isntall it .:toast:

[kapeeteeleest_peeg]

omg, C3D x800 gto failure rate up to 6 fails!
anyone have an idea of why they been failing?
Ive got one on order and would like to be prepared.

are there batches comin thru with unlockable cores? or is it down to trouble with flashing tools, bioses etc?

Thanx to anyone who can answer me :rockout:

[mascaras]

i think the fails its ppl who not doing the MOD correctly .

[Ombracol]

Ombracol,
That's strange, cause i went right back to my old drivers "Catalyst 5.10". Did you uninstall your drivers, reboot, then use Driver Cleaner? I don't understand why you have to use 5.8, check it out, should work man. Make sure you clean all the drivers out, ATI, ATI WDM, CCC, ect... Good Luck.
after trying so hard to get 5.10 drivers my pc gave out and didnt want to boot anymore had to do a system restore...... thank god for backups lol i did loose my complete 1 thru 16 seasons of the simpsons took me a whole week to download:-) damn you omega

[JLBENEDICT]

omg, C3D x800 gto failure rate up to 6 fails!
anyone have an idea of why they been failing?
Ive got one on order and would like to be prepared.

are there batches comin thru with unlockable cores? or is it down to trouble with flashing tools, bioses etc?

Thanx to anyone who can answer me :rockout:


When did these new six failures get reported?
I noticed on Newegg the other day that the Connect3D card was out of stock.. but this was only some short time...
Now do you think its possibly, on the next shipment from the manufacturer, that there is apparently a bad batch in circulation? Its definately a possibility..

[mascaras]

When did these new six failures get reported?
I noticed on Newegg the other day that the Connect3D card was out of stock.. but this was only some short time...
Now do you think its possibly, on the next shipment from the manufacturer, that there is apparently a bad batch in circulation? Its definately a possibility..

no , yesterday just arrived more conect3d in a shop near my house and all of them no problem with MOD , and they put them to seel without MOD = 208 euros nd already moded =225 euros with shop garanty (smart arent they?)
:D :D

[mascaras]

after trying so hard to get 5.10 drivers my pc gave out and didnt want to boot anymore had to do a system restore...... thank god for backups lol i did loose my complete 1 thru 16 seasons of the simpsons took me a whole week to download:-) damn you omega
i told you to install omega 5.9 modified drivers and not the omega 5.10 i even put the link directly to the download .:banghead: , with that drivers i almost get 7k 3dmark 2005 >> http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/2567/3dmaek20051cy.th.jpg (http://img346.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmaek20051cy.jpg) --- (560/575)

[kohan69]

omg, C3D x800 gto failure rate up to 6 fails!
anyone have an idea of why they been failing?
Ive got one on order and would like to be prepared.

are there batches comin thru with unlockable cores? or is it down to trouble with flashing tools, bioses etc?

Thanx to anyone who can answer me :rockout:

http://www.jinx.com/images/products/364Sm.jpg

:roll:

:nutkick:

i bet $20 all connect3d gtos, as of now unlock to 16pipes.
People need to s/t/f/u and Read :shadedshu

[BlackPearl]

If you asked a question and received a response like that would you think it was polite, helpful or even funny?

[Dynamic]

after trying so hard to get 5.10 drivers my pc gave out and didnt want to boot anymore had to do a system restore...... thank god for backups lol i did loose my complete 1 thru 16 seasons of the simpsons took me a whole week to download:-) damn you omega

Well, i know i had to re-install my Audigy card since using DriverCleaner took the WDM drivers i needed with the sound card. Next time, please explain what you did step by step, cause it sounds like some sort of a conflict when you installed or uninstalled the Omega drivers and tried your original. As far as i know, i paid $186 (GTO) plus $37 (Zalman VF700-cu) and i got the 16pp plus the core is 10mhz faster then the XTPE, but my memory is set at 565 and that's the highest it goes. Now i'm very happy even though i have to do different things then most of you to keep the card stable on my machine, not sure why BlackPlear doesn't have the same problems as me, but getting near or higher performance then a X850XTPE for only $223 i'm damn happy with my results. This is a guy that use to throw money out like an idiot example: spent $500 and over for a motherboard/ram/cpu from Outpost.com and you know they are greedy with their prices and since now i've done a great job saving lots of money. :)

[Dynamic]

kapeeteeleest_peeg,
Just get it and try it and if it doesn't work which i doubt then return it. It's that simple. I got mine "Connect3dX800GTO" modded to 16 Pixel Pipelines and the core/memory is at 550/565. The core can benchmark at 565 but will give artifacts and the memory is just right on the edge there at 565. With my system overclocked and the specs that i've given you for my GTO i'm getting a nice 6424 score on 3DMark05, so just be patient and keep trying never stop. We should be polite and nice troubleshooting in this forum, not insult others.

[mongoled]

i told you to install omega 5.9 modified drivers and not the omega 5.10 i even put the link directly to the download .:banghead: , with that drivers i almost get 7k 3dmark 2005 >> http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/2567/3dmaek20051cy.th.jpg (http://img346.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmaek20051cy.jpg) --- (560/575)
Hey i tried those drivers out but got a negligable difference (lost abt 15 points), this is from using original 5.10's

[XeoNoX]

Can some people please post their GPU temperatures at full load using ati tool's scan for artifacts for about 3 or 4 minutes and post their temperatures.

mine is like 63C which is about 148F, i think thats kinda hot at full laod. (yes i have the zalman fan properly installed)

[kotetu]

I ordered from Allstarshop on the 24th and the card arrived today. Cost me $286US though. >_<


Oh well! With luck it will perform like it's $500 brother. ^__^


I had no trouble with the bios. Running the catalyst drivers off the ATI website, 16 pipes open, I have no artifacting with the stock Sapphire cooler at these combinations of speeds (so far)

500/590
520/540
550/560

Everything looks great! I've got a new Dell 9100 3Ghz Pentium D with 1GB of memory. Doom 3 is really nice looking and smooth!

[mascaras]

Can some people please post their GPU temperatures at full load using ati tool's scan for artifacts for about 3 or 4 minutes and post their temperatures.

mine is like 63C which is about 148F, i think thats kinda hot at full laod. (yes i have the zalman fan properly installed)


http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/9527/x800full0zg.th.jpg (http://img497.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x800full0zg.jpg)


clocks: 500/500(default) 49c while scaning for artefatcs (Watercooling)

[Ombracol]

Well, i know i had to re-install my Audigy card since using DriverCleaner took the WDM drivers i needed with the sound card. Next time, please explain what you did step by step, cause it sounds like some sort of a conflict when you installed or uninstalled the Omega drivers and tried your original. As far as i know, i paid $186 (GTO) plus $37 (Zalman VF700-cu) and i got the 16pp plus the core is 10mhz faster then the XTPE, but my memory is set at 565 and that's the highest it goes. Now i'm very happy even though i have to do different things then most of you to keep the card stable on my machine, not sure why BlackPlear doesn't have the same problems as me, but getting near or higher performance then a X850XTPE for only $223 i'm damn happy with my results. This is a guy that use to throw money out like an idiot example: spent $500 and over for a motherboard/ram/cpu from Outpost.com and you know they are greedy with their prices and since now i've done a great job saving lots of money. :)
i was seeing a conflict with the video driver and my chipset but window would not let me change the resources it alo started cause i did not unintal catalyst center when i first installed but its all good ended up getting rid of a bunch of junk files

[Dr.D]

Alright I fixed my problem, I had ".bin" in the file name:rolleyes:

3DMark05
4405 stock
4913 unlocked

I plan to OC it when I get better cooling

[Ombracol]

the wierdest thng.....so i had the x850xtpe bios right so we all know about the fan problem....so i hat to flash back to the gto bios to keep the fan running while i was reinstalling ....so i put clocks to what i had them before and i was getting artifacts so i flashed to xtpe no artifacts it probably was the mem timings cause i loaded the timings before checking for artifacts but........gonna test some more!!



flashe to gto2 and stock timings no artifacts but if i change timings i get artifacts but with x850xtpe bios no artifacts with tweaked timings anyonelse experiecing this...???

[Dr.D]

I need help on ideal temps

[Ombracol]

I need help on ideal temps
lower the better but mine never goes over 61 and thats just with artifact scaning playing games never over 55

[Ombracol]

i never use the fin max in atitool but if i wanna find max mem do i do it with the max core or default core?

[DanishDevil]

i never use the fin max in atitool but if i wanna find max mem do i do it with the max core or default core?

What I suggest is:

Find Max Core until you get a PERFECTLY stable clock.

Then, Find Max Mem. Keep your core at the stable clock. Also, change your mem timings like I did before you do either. It works great.


i told you to install omega 5.9 modified drivers and not the omega 5.10 i even put the link directly to the download .:banghead: , with that drivers i almost get 7k 3dmark 2005 >> http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/2567/3dmaek20051cy.th.jpg (http://img346.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmaek20051cy.jpg) --- (560/575)


YOU PLAY AA BRO? WHAT UP? Add me to ur AAOTracker: -=DaNiSh+DeViL=-

[Ombracol]

ati should be coming out with there new drivers soon with the 35% gain in opengl games i dont want to go thru that hassle again with the omega drivers so i am not sure i mean i am very happy with performance all my games play great and igf i get extra point in 3d mark ai really dont notice a difference cause there is only really 3 games that make use of the cards power doom3 quake 4 fear and some other games but not as much as those and they play great on my card

[Dynamic]

XeoNoX,
Those are the temps i'm getting too with my Zalman. Okay one thing i've noticed is that ATI TOOL puts ALOT of pressure on our video cards compared to the games we play. So you notice when you play Q4, Doom 3, or F.E.A.R your temps aren't that high? I was playing Quake 4 or Call of Duty 2 and my temps would be around 55c instead of the 64c i get trying to scan for artifacts with ATI TOOL .24 I can't remember if you were the one that put a 80mm fan right next to your video card or not. An efficient way would be water cooling really, cause with air this is the best it gets i guess.

ATI TOOL "Scan for Artifacts...
GPU:62-64c
GPU ENVIR: 40-42c
Same thing dudes, don't worry my 9800xt use to hit 74c w/o Silencer 3 and when i got it would shoot down around 65 i think.

[Dynamic]

ati should be coming out with there new drivers soon with the 35% gain in opengl games i dont want to go thru that hassle again with the omega drivers so i am not sure i mean i am very happy with performance all my games play great and igf i get extra point in 3d mark ai really dont notice a difference cause there is only really 3 games that make use of the cards power doom3 quake 4 fear and some other games but not as much as those and they play great on my card

Damn dude, chipset drivers, hmm... you must of been using your Windows XP for a long time. I usually reformat every 3-4 months, but going back to the Catalyst from Omega i only had to re-install my Sound Blaster Beta drivers, that's it. I thought 5.11 was suppose to implement the opengl fix, so what is this three drivers you're talking about?

[mascaras]

What I suggest is:

Find Max Core until you get a PERFECTLY stable clock.

Then, Find Max Mem. Keep your core at the stable clock. Also, change your mem timings like I did before you do either. It works great.





YOU PLAY AA BRO? WHAT UP? Add me to ur AAOTracker: -=DaNiSh+DeViL=-

danish in AA i am the -=[uP]EX_DOOM3D :D :toast:

[Trevor]

Alright I fixed my problem, I had ".bin" in the file name:rolleyes:

3DMark05
4405 stock
4913 unlocked

I plan to OC it when I get better cooling
xD
so it was .bin.bin? I did the same thign :roll:

[Trevor]

XeoNoX,
Those are the temps i'm getting too with my Zalman. Okay one thing i've noticed is that ATI TOOL puts ALOT of pressure on our video cards compared to the games we play. So you notice when you play Q4, Doom 3, or F.E.A.R your temps aren't that high? I was playing Quake 4 or Call of Duty 2 and my temps would be around 55c instead of the 64c i get trying to scan for artifacts with ATI TOOL .24 I can't remember if you were the one that put a 80mm fan right next to your video card or not. An efficient way would be water cooling really, cause with air this is the best it gets i guess.

ATI TOOL "Scan for Artifacts...
GPU:62-64c
GPU ENVIR: 40-42c
Same thing dudes, don't worry my 9800xt use to hit 74c w/o Silencer 3 and when i got it would shoot down around 65 i think.
I noticed the EXACT same thing..
Load temps in ATiTool are around 10Cs higher then normal temps when playing games for hours.
But hey, that's good--Means it'll keep stable ;)

[Ombracol]

Damn dude, chipset drivers, hmm... you must of been using your Windows XP for a long time. I usually reformat every 3-4 months, but going back to the Catalyst from Omega i only had to re-install my Sound Blaster Beta drivers, that's it. I thought 5.11 was suppose to implement the opengl fix, so what is this three drivers you're talking about?
i was talking about games there only three games that make you of all the performance of the card and asks for more i think there is still a lack of good graphical games out there that make usee of any topend card

[Ombracol]

got fan to work with xtpe bios you have to disable vivo with the bios editor for some reason i am not getting as high on my oc with the gto bios so after i edited the bios and disabled the vivo my fan kick on with out atitool

[Dynamic]

Ombracol,
I apologize, must of read through it really fast. Which games are you playing anyhow? I got Quake4, F.E.A.R, Doom3 (Not installed yet), Call of Duty 2, and Call of Duty. COD:1600X1200 4AA8AF, COD2:1024X768 High, Q4:1280x1024 High Quility, F.E.A.R:1024x768 @32bits pretty much maximum/medium settings. I'm quite happy with this mod, saved me alot. Thank you everyone and Wizzard.

[Dynamic]

BTW, is anyone using their Vivo yet? I see two "Ati Vivo" in my sound drivers, but haven't gotten a clue how they work or perform. So what's the yellow connector next to the PCI-E connector? Do we connect anything to it? I know i can just google this and find out, but i want to hear it from you guys and see what you guys know. :)

[Ombracol]

Well Dynamic thanks to bittorrent I am pretty much playing all latest games Doom 3 i can play quake doom 3 at maximum quality but without aa i can but my frame rates are low with aa i play all games at 1280x1024 if you tweak the config file on fear you c also play it at 1280 1024 kept soft shadows off and aa at 2x and af at 8x worked real good but saw some frame drops whenever any parts of the game was out in bright light wich was more towards the end of the game and call of duty 2 i use what ever settings it detects and frames are reall goood at 60 fps and plays real good and then all other game full quality all the way

[kohan69]

Well Dynamic thanks to bittorrent I am pretty much playing all latest games Doom 3 i can play quake doom 3 at maximum quality but without aa i can but my frame rates are low with aa i play all games at 1280x1024 if you tweak the config file on fear you c also play it at 1280 1024 kept soft shadows off and aa at 2x and af at 8x worked real good but saw some frame drops whenever any parts of the game was out in bright light wich was more towards the end of the game and call of duty 2 i use what ever settings it detects and frames are reall goood at 60 fps and plays real good and then all other game full quality all the way


whats ur system?

[Ombracol]

whats ur system?
3.2 ghzht Sony Vaio Ra 800mhz fsb 1.5 gb pc3200 400mhz ddr mem
400 gig hd Intel 915p chipset wIN xP MEDIA cENTER
rEALTEK aLC880 hd AUDIO 5.1 OPTICAL SOUND
the cpu came with a heat pipe so fan spin real low sow it is real quiet but after i put my gto2 in i cranked the fan real high so the case and cpu run real cool
on a cold morning I can have my cpu at 38C for a couple hours but normal temp is 43 45
never over 50 on max load am i missing any spec.....I wanna get a new motherboard so I can crank up the cpu to 3.6ghz any recomendations it has to be micro atx thats the only down fall i oly have i pci port unoccupied cause I only have 4 slots

[DanishDevil]

Lol, on a hot day with my CPU on load for 6 hours I can keep it under 39C :D And with a little fooling, I got it to 216X11=2376MHz

My suggestion would be to get a whole new system. Upgrading a mobo in a pre-built system can be tough, especially if you don't have a retail or OEM copy of Windows XP (Pro).

[Ombracol]

Lol, on a hot day with my CPU on load for 6 hours I can keep it under 39C :D And with a little fooling, I got it to 216X11=2376MHz

My suggestion would be to get a whole new system. Upgrading a mobo in a pre-built system can be tough, especially if you don't have a retail or OEM copy of Windows XP (Pro).pentium 4s run hot as ell.....but i spoke with microsoft they said to talk to them when i upgrade the mobo but if i cant use the same copy i will buid my own cause i have alot of good software from sony cause a mob is only 150 tops for a decent one we will see what happens ...before i had my fans up all the way i saw the pentium hit 60 durring the summer under load

[DanishDevil]

If you end up building your own, and don't know much about it, send me a PM. I am currently building systems for 4 friends, so I should be able to help you out.

[Ombracol]

thanks danish Ican put a pc together but I dont really know what hardware to get so if you can recomend some stuff that would be good....:-)

[Muk]

Muk,

I didnt do a bios flash for my card, but im wondering if i do one i could increase the voltage for the GPU and maye it would stop crapping out, but seeing as it is an XL core ( i still have not taken off the heatsink to confirm this but seeing the default clock speeds they do match the XL) i doubt i would still be able to push it as far, it seems i can push my memory now to around 530mhz and i bumped up my core to 465, still smokes my old radeon 9800 pro.

The XL is positioned above the 800 Pro and x850 pro, below the x800XT. If you do have a R430 core, I believe the GTOs are using the same PCB as the XL/XT, so flashing an XL bios might give you some luck. Even the ones for the PCIe cards might work, since Rialtos transtation is supposed to be transparent to the card.

[DanishDevil]

thanks danish Ican put a pc together but I dont really know what hardware to get so if you can recomend some stuff that would be good....:-)
Just toss me a PM when you're ready.

[DanishDevil]

I'll hopefully be able to sleeve my new PSU soon, and then I can see if using a true 3X12V+3XGnd PEC Power Cable helps vs. the adapter.

I assume it does. The adapter provides the card with one +12V lead and two grounds.
The "normal" one provides THREE +12V leads and THREE grounds. I guess we'll see.

BTW: Does anyone know what PCI-E Frequency actually does? I have mine set to 115MHz vs. the stock 100MHz.

[sh0ck]

IF I GOT:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFDFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE 0xFFFFFF9E

I can't modd my card ?

why ? whats the 'CONFIG_DIE_FUSES' & 'CONFIG_SUBSTRATE' ??

this values cannot be changed ?

i got Sapphire x800gto 256/256

[Vergo]

You should've bought the GTO²..
It doesn't have the 480core

[decline]

this is one of six c3d x800 gto unlockables :banghead:

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/1024/c3d1tn.jpg

any idea?...

[sh0ck]

On this card i can unlock 4 pipelines ? (i have 12, i want more)

[Megatron]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5215

Read the "Is my card moddable?" section.

[ShadowFlare]

this is one of six c3d x800 gto unlockables :banghead:

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/1024/c3d1tn.jpg

any idea?...
That's a Connect3d X800 GTO? Well, if as it is there it does not have 16 pixel pipelines, then your card truely isn't unlockable by flashing the bios. With the CONFIG_ROM_FUSES value you have there, it should have 16 pipes if it was unlockable that way. The last digit of that value means the number of pipeline quads that are locked in the bios, so none are currently locked in the bios.

[z00m]

hi, im having a problem with my sapphire gto2 freezing and restart right around 520 core. For the memory i can go around 620. I dont know for some reason when i use atitool to try to find the max core it freezes when it gets to around 520+, but my gpu temp is only at 48c.

i got the sapphire gto2 successful unlocked to 16p.

[kapeeteeleest_peeg]

I recieved my c3d x800 gto...
...checked for the required 'F''s with Ati tool, they were present!
...flashed it with the modified flashrom & connect3d 16 pipes bios!, no problems 16 pipes in ati tool
...then I thought, wait a minute, this an x800xt with 2.0ns memory,
...so I flashed it with atiflash to the powercolor x800xt 2.0ns bios from the database

and viola! an x800 xt! yeeehaaa!!!

...that'll do nicely, an XT for £113! cheapest upgrade I ever made!
Great job guys!

Sorry to hear that some are c3d's are comin thru locked or with different cores, but hey!, it could have been my one!

[jammer8]

I got my connect 3d GTO yesterday. i had already made a bootable cd with all the nescessary stuff on it. it was the easiest flash i've ever done. my question is im getting some pretty high scores on the 3dmar05 and was wondering if they're valid my system is as follows:

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (venice core, stock)
Epox 9NPA+ Ultra (very nice board)
1 GB cosair memory (2.5)
36GB WD Raptor (system disk)
250 GB (Hitachi SATA, storage)
SB Audigy
Antec server tower w/430 watt power supply
Connect 3D GTO (modded 16P)

here are my scores all w/ 16P

400/490: 5061
450/400: 5438
500/510: 5831
520/520: 6058
540/530: 6233

I have screenshots also, but didn't post them. the highest my card gets it 59 degees C on stock cooling. i haven't tried to go faster yet, but will soon.

has anyone else got scores like these? if anyone wants I can send screenshots in powerpoint or word.

:rockout:

[decline]

yes it is, the card was flashed following this guide and bios Connect3D.X800GTO_16P.Samsung20.bin without luck :cry:

[BlackPearl]

Sorry to hear that. Where did you buy your card?

[DanishDevil]

hi, im having a problem with my sapphire gto2 freezing and restart right around 520 core. For the memory i can go around 620. I dont know for some reason when i use atitool to try to find the max core it freezes when it gets to around 520+, but my gpu temp is only at 48c.

i got the sapphire gto2 successful unlocked to 16p.

Then keep it under 520! DUH! :banghead:

[decline]

I bought it from a belgian distributor

[kohan69]

I bought it from a belgian distributor

does it look like this?

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/ImageViewer/images/190533_3.jpg

[ages]

:roll: I acquired this card last week, updated the bios as recommended, and now running as x850XT at 16p, gaining a 30% performance and maintaining temperatures. Amazing.

[decline]

exactly like that

[pr0p]

i had the same problem of decline i flashed the card with the bios on the site, the x800xt (500/500) but none of if worked, they flashed but the card remained 12pp.

kind of desperated i found a bios at xtremesys and it worked...

try it


bios (http://s61.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2J8ICOQY895NY0DLPXUHN81XBW)

KoHaN69@xtremesys


Connect3d x800 gto (for sapphire, replace the bios files)

Floppy Technique:

Insert unneeded floppy
run drdflash.exe (creates a bootfloppy)
copy contents of flashrom16p to floppy (root directory "a:\_HERE_", not a:\flashrom16p\_HERE_)

reboot, boot with floppy
(the c3d.bin is the back-ed up original 12pipeline connect3d bios, c3d16.bin is the 16 pipelines connect3d bios)

after it boots, type the following:

flashrom -f -p 0 c3d16.bin

it should say success or something

[dpadmore]

Well add one more to the success column for the C3D 16 pipe flash. Got it from ebuyer in the UK for about GBP120 delivered. Card now craps out at 560/560 which I reckon it plenty. I notice that people have mentioned using the Powercolor X800XT bios to get 500/500 as default, wont this lose you the VIVO functionality?

[sew333]

Kohan69 i have a question. I am buying this card,like you present on the picture.
THis is moddable version? Or i have to change the card??

[decline]

my card has a lasercut :( http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/3724/lasercut2ag.jpg
I connected the two dots and it failed to unlock the extra pipe so... i think it's a waste of time :shadedshu

[Bushwacker]

[...] I notice that people have mentioned using the Powercolor X800XT bios to get 500/500 as default, wont this lose you the VIVO functionality?

No, it seems the Powercolor XT is a VIVO card too. I checked the Powercolor site in advance and used Rabit to verify that VIVO is enabled in the BIOS per default.

[jammer8]

No, it seems the Powercolor XT is a VIVO card too. I checked the Powercolor site in advance and used Rabit to verify that VIVO is enabled in the BIOS per default.

I have the Connect3d card. so i guess i can flash to this bios? also what benefits will i receive with this am already running 540/530 and getting 6233 on 3dmark05, the only game i've tried so far is sims2 with everything maxed. getting fear, quake4, black & white 2 and some others this week....

[sew333]

Hey guys. I have a question. Connect3d X800gto ,all of this cards are moddable?
Is there not moddable versions?
For 2 days, i will have the card.
I want to know. Is there 100% chance to mod the COnnect3d X800GTO?

Second question. This card will work with power supply MODECOM 350GTF (ATX 1.0)??????????????

[mascaras]

I have the Connect3d card. so i guess i can flash to this bios? also what benefits will i receive with this am already running 540/530 and getting 6233 on 3dmark05, the only game i've tried so far is sims2 with everything maxed. getting fear, quake4, black & white 2 and some others this week....


i flash mine conect3D with that bios (x800XT) and work fine , clocks default(500/500) and dont loose VIVO, just with the MOD and no OC you get at least 6000/6100 3dmaks and with OC you can get 7000 3damrks or more.

[jammer8]

i flash mine conect3D with that bios (x800XT) and work fine , clocks default(500/500) and dont loose VIVO, just with the MOD and no OC you get at least 6000/6100 3dmaks and with OC you can get 7000 3damrks or more.


thanks, i am on stock cooling too, do you recommend certian fan/ramsinks. i am not going to watercool. thanks again.

Also, where can i get this bios? and is it the same type of flash as the unlock?

[mascaras]

if you have the stockcooler you should flash with the GTO2 bios not ith XT bios cause the default clocks with XT bios is 500/500 the card its more hot with the xt bios, if you flash with XT bios i recomend a zalman vf700 .

[ShadowFlare]

my card has a lasercut :( http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/3724/lasercut2ag.jpg
I connected the two dots and it failed to unlock the extra pipe so... i think it's a waste of time :shadedshu
What way did you do it? Did you follow one of those guides for that? What I recall from reading those a while back is that you can't just connect that, but you have to actually scrape between until there is copper exposed, or something like that. You probably don't want to go by just what I said, though. Find one of those guides (I'm not sure where to have you look to find one).

[afropuff]

How do you know what core you have?

Are we to assume that if our Connect3d cores do not say "R480" on them than they are not R480 and an R423?

How do we even know it is an R423?

I just recieved my C3D GTO today and took off the heatsink to apply some AS5. First off, I've never seen so much thermal grease on a stock config before. Mounds of it.

So when I got the HSF off, there is no mention of "R423" on the core, only a bunch of codes.

Also, how do we physically check to see if any of the pipelines have been cut?

-fro

[BlackPearl]

if you have the stockcooler you should flash with the GTO2 bios not ith XT bios cause the default clocks with XT bios is 500/500 the card its more hot with the xt bios, if you flash with XT bios i recomend a zalman vf700 .
It may not be a good idea to flash the C3D card with a GTO2 bios. It's probably better to use W1zzard's modified C3D 16p bios from the article.

[mascaras]

It may not be a good idea to flash the C3D card with a GTO2 bios. It's probably better to use W1zzard's modified C3D 16p bios from the article.

yes its that bios i want to say ,sory .

[mascaras]

How do you know what core you have?

Are we to assume that if our Connect3d cores do not say "R480" on them than they are not R480 and an R423?

How do we even know it is an R423?

I just recieved my C3D GTO today and took off the heatsink to apply some AS5. First off, I've never seen so much thermal grease on a stock config before. Mounds of it.

So when I got the HSF off, there is no mention of "R423" on the core, only a bunch of codes.

Also, how do we physically check to see if any of the pipelines have been cut?

-fro
with The ATITOOL you can see what core you have and how many pipelines.

[HousERaT]

How do you know what core you have?

Are we to assume that if our Connect3d cores do not say "R480" on them than they are not R480 and an R423?

How do we even know it is an R423?

I just recieved my C3D GTO today and took off the heatsink to apply some AS5. First off, I've never seen so much thermal grease on a stock config before. Mounds of it.

So when I got the HSF off, there is no mention of "R423" on the core, only a bunch of codes.

Also, how do we physically check to see if any of the pipelines have been cut?

-fro
I would love to see this no name core..... can you snap a pic of it?

[jammer8]

i flashed mine with the modified bios, and runs great, it does have 16P and runs real fast with my system stock, atleast that's what 3dmark05 says.

right now i have it at 510/500 until i get a cooler(should I lower that). so you guys think i should get the zalman cooler with the ramsinks that come with it?

it's only running at 63 degrees Celcius at full load, is that good?


also i have the mod on cd if anyone wants the iso i can send it to them

[afropuff]

I would love to see this no name core..... can you snap a pic of it?

JeffereyRyan on page 78 of this thread (I think) posted this pic of his C3D:

http://xs52.xs.to/pics/05435/C3DGTO.jpg

That is basically what mine looks like. Ordered from Monarch when they had their rebate.

JefferyRyan was able to unlock his card to 16 pipes.

-fro

[BlackPearl]

Jammer - 63C under load should not be a problem. The Zalman would certainly reduce that and possibly allow a better o/c. Also it's quiet, unlike the stock cooler at 100% fan speed.

[decline]

What way did you do it? Did you follow one of those guides for that? What I recall from reading those a while back is that you can't just connect that, but you have to actually scrape between until there is copper exposed, or something like that. You probably don't want to go by just what I said, though. Find one of those guides (I'm not sure where to have you look to find one).


yes, i did it the right way :o . I scraped and used some silver conductive paint to bridge out the laser cut but only 12pipes in atitool :twitch:
I suppose that will be locked on die :(

[z00m]

my gto2 core is maxing out at 510/630 and i want more... should i just get another one and return this one for a restocking fee of 15%? what do you guys think?

[DanishDevil]

Well, you might get a worse one. It's all a gamble. Let me tell you, you got some GREAT memory chips (mine got to 618 with the stock timings). Some cores won't even go past 490, so all I can say is, if you decide to do it, GL to ya.

[jammer8]

Jammer - 63C under load should not be a problem. The Zalman would certainly reduce that and possibly allow a better o/c. Also it's quiet, unlike the stock cooler at 100% fan speed.

thanks, i thought that was a good temp. and the fan is kinda loud

[z00m]

hehe i see, well i guess ill take the gamble than ima run to the store and pick one up for 264 plus tax = 286. ill be back in like an hour to let yall know the result.

[aviator]

To quote an earlier post -

Originally Posted by edge929
Another successful mod here.
One thing I wanted to point out that the guide doesn't mention. For me, I HAD to use the -f command to force the flash (as the SSIDs didn't match).


I had the same problem. In case it helps anyone out there, I also HAD to use -f to force the flash, which then proceeded ok, but very nervous at boot up.
Interestingly, when I booted-up the screen display after flashing - the display was terrible and the ATI Control Panel couldn't start.
Uninstalled the ATI Control Panel using the utility via Add/Remove Programs and downloaded Catalyst 5.9 from the Sapphire site (seems to be same drivers irrespective of whether you opt for drivers for X800 GTO or X850 GT). Installed these, re-booted and all is well.
AtiTool now shows 16 pipes.

No idea whether it makes any difference as have no means yet of testing, but I can see my screen well enough :-)

[z00m]

ok, i just picked the card up. should i run it at normal speed for awhile than oc it? i read somewhere that you should run it for awhile first before overclocking it. any ideas?

oh yeah, btw the card at my local shop is only 264.99 plus free shipping. thats like the cheapest place you can find online. http://store.yahoo.com/directron/x800gto2.html

[satire]

Is there really only 1 version of the Sapphire GTO2 card? I have flashed my bios and I now get green artefact. I have flash back with the original firmware on this site, I get the same result. my GTO2 OEM part numbner is 102-A47487-10-AT purchased at NCIX.COM in Canada two weeks ego. does anyone have an original bios for this exact card? please email it me at lbouchard@stas.ca

[XeoNoX]

this is the cheapest place i found it http://www.paguito.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/online-store/scstore/p-PDIX0760.html?L+scstore+bvks0872ff559255+113143126 0

you wont find it cheaper anywhere else, i just ordered mine today, will get here in 2 weeks the guy said.

[ShadowFlare]

It may not be a good idea to flash the C3D card with a GTO2 bios. It's probably better to use W1zzard's modified C3D 16p bios from the article.
yes its that bios i want to say ,sory .
You used that bios and it worked? Hmm, thanks for the little bit of insight into my research on this thread: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6081 It may not be a sure thing, though. Does anyone know if all chips for X800's not marked with R480 are not R480?

[Slicky]

I got my connect 3d GTO yesterday. i had already made a bootable cd with all the nescessary stuff on it. it was the easiest flash i've ever done.
:rockout:

Where did you get the bootable CD? I have the exact same card on its way to me. Is it in the bios section on this board?

[emkubed]

Mark another Sapphire success, unlocked, running at XT speeds, waiting on the winter to kick in to go a tad higher.

When I game I flirt with 70 degrees on the stock cooler, in a quiet case. CPU-wise, that's closing into BIOS-alarm-hot, doesn't seem to bother the vid card though.

[killiedel]

hi i have tried to open the extra 4 pipelines on this card, but it does not show any change after i have flashed the bios.
Is this the correct way to do it?
I am using atiflash, and the connect3d x800gto 16p.sa.....bin.
In dos i type "atiflash -f -p 0 x80016p" (the dos name for my bin file)
Then i rebbot and check using atitool, but it still show 12 pipelines.

I have tried using different bios but windows only detects a new card, and the pipelines stay at 12.

My fuses are the correct type for flashing - config die fuses 0xeff7ffff, config substrike fuses 0xffffff9f

Anyone any ideas on whats wrong.

p.s. the card comes up as a pro version, is this right?

3dbenchmark03 std - 9534, with x800xt bios 10626
Thanks

[Groggy]

he he if you read all the postings you will find your answer. :) :cool:
ok i think you should use the -newbios option

Type: atiflash -p 0 bios.bin -f -newbios

And then tell us what happend:D

[sew333]

Hey. ON COnnect3d X800gto is a 100% chance to mod bios to X800XL?
OR not?
THis is 100% chance??

[BlackPearl]

sew333 - the correct rate is in the first post of this thread and it's not 100%.

killiedel - try following the instructions from the first post of this thread exactly. You say that you're using atiflash while W1zzard says "You MUST use the modded Flashrom, other flashing utilities will not change your pipeline configuration". Also, try reinstalling catalyst drivers after the mod - some report that's necessary though it wasn't for me.

[jammer8]

Where did you get the bootable CD? I have the exact same card on its way to me. Is it in the bios section on this board?


i actually followed the guide on this website and added the nescessary files.

also i typed

flashrom -p 0 gto16p.bin

where the file i renamed to gto16p.bin, you have to type .bin, remember it's dos.
also you have to use flashrom, not atiflash

[afropuff]

I was able to flash fine, but now I can't change my resolution. It is stuck at 60hz.

It is actually set @ 100hz in properties, but it stays at 60. No matter what I set it to or what resolution I'm in it stays at 60.

Anyone else have this problem?

I even used refresh force for the XP 60hz problem, and it is still stuck at 60.

Suggestions?

C3D GTO

[BlackPearl]

Is your display an LCD? If so, there's no problem with the 60Hz refresh rate.

[Ombracol]

Mark another Sapphire success, unlocked, running at XT speeds, waiting on the winter to kick in to go a tad higher.

When I game I flirt with 70 degrees on the stock cooler, in a quiet case. CPU-wise, that's closing into BIOS-alarm-hot, doesn't seem to bother the vid card though.
What systen you got