View Full Version : my comp & 9800 gx2 sucks!
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 12:18 AM
Hi Guys
i have saved up for ages to be able to aford a new go fast computer to play games at full specs.
so i went out and bought this.
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz
Current frequency 1999.98 MHZ
CPU FSB 333.33
CPU System bus 1333.32
CPU Mulipilier x 6.00 (6-8)
Manufacture Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Model Name EP35-DS3
North bridge Device ID=0x29c0 Vendor ID=0x8086
South bridge Device ID=0x2918 Vendor ID=0x8086
Physical
Total 3070 MBytes
Available 2593 MBytes
Virtual
Total 2047 MBytes
Available 2008 MBytes
Page File
Total 4956 MBytes
Available 4598 MBytes
Microsoft Windows XP
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3
SATA ST3500320AS
Size 500gig
Realtek High Definition Audio
Device description NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2
Driver version 6.14.11.7519
i get 7465 in 3dmark06 i have to run crysis on Med settings i have reinstalled and formatted a dozen times, i have updated Bios and all drivers not sure what to do next Can anyone help Please.
blastboy
Aug 5, 2008, 12:28 AM
for starters.. you may want to change the multiplier to (8) to up your cpu to stock speed.
Then you may want to overclock it a little.. looks like youll need to do some research on it before you do that. Make sure multi-gpu mode is set and set it to single display performace mode.
boogah
Aug 5, 2008, 12:30 AM
that doesn't seem right...
what resolution are you dunning 3dmark06 at ?
Pinchy
Aug 5, 2008, 12:30 AM
I would say that multi is just speedstep, will kick up to 8 when needed...so that shouldnt be a problem.
..'Ant'..
Aug 5, 2008, 12:30 AM
First off I hope you know that a 9800GX2 bottlenecks if your CPU is at stock. You would need to OC it to 3.0 or more if you want to have the performance you want. Which Nvidia drivers you using? You should clean your drivers with Driver Cleaner Pro or Driver Sweeper. What exaclty is your whole system specs like how much ram do you have what brand?
blastboy
Aug 5, 2008, 12:33 AM
he's using the latest Nv drivers its listed above.
PrudentPrincess
Aug 5, 2008, 12:45 AM
for starters.. you may want to change the multiplier to (8) to up your cpu to stock speed.
Then you may want to overclock it a little.. looks like youll need to do some research on it before you do that. Make sure multi-gpu mode is set and set it to single display performace mode.
Its stepping that's making his CPU read at that speed.
EDIT:Sorry already said.
DaMulta
Aug 5, 2008, 12:46 AM
Some thing is wrong.
Do you have SLi turned on? Have you messed with any other settings inside nvidia control panel?
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 12:48 AM
thankyou for your replys
i am using Corsair xms2 4GB ddr2 memory
i used the default settings in 3dmark
i will change the multiplier to (8) and try oc a bit
is there a guide that has already been posted to oc this cpu.
thanks.
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 12:50 AM
not sure what stepping is
the gpu test shows that multi is enabled
wolf2009
Aug 5, 2008, 01:01 AM
I'm sure your PCI-E slots are running at x1 speed . post a gpu-z screen .
Darren
Aug 5, 2008, 01:09 AM
Something is definately wrong do not let anyone convince you it's your processor bottleknecking your graphics card or a driver issue because I get just under 10,000 on 3D Mark 06 and my system which is alot weaker than your. See my specification on the side.
Hi Guys
i have saved up for ages to be able to aford a new go fast computer to play games at full specs.
so i went out and bought this.
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz
Current frequency 1999.98 MHZ
CPU FSB 333.33
CPU System bus 1333.32
CPU Mulipilier x 6.00 (6-8)
I think your issue is miss-configurations in the BIOS. The 9450 is rated at a clock frequency of 2.66 Ghz yet your current CPU is frequency is at 1999.98 MHZ. Your processor is definately down clocked, you have to go into the BIOS and raise it via multiplier to 8x.
Edit:
I HAVE POSTED AS ATTATCHMENT.
GPU-Z looks normal.
Download CPU-Z and sends some screenies!
PrudentPrincess
Aug 5, 2008, 01:14 AM
Something is definately wrong do not let anyone convince you it's your processor bottleknecking your graphics card or a driver issue because I get just under 10,000 on 3D Mark 06 and my system which is alot weaker than your. See my specification on the side.
I think your issue is miss-configurations in the BIOS. The 9450 is rated at a clock frequency of 2.66 Ghz yet your current CPU is frequency is at 1999.98 MHZ. Your processor is definately down clocked, you have to go into the BIOS and raise it via multiplier to 8x
Again, I'm sure its multi stepping. My CPU is clocked to 3.64ghz and is read as much lower when it is left idle. The clock doesn't show until the CPU is under load.
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 01:15 AM
I'm sure your PCI-E slots are running at x1 speed . post a gpu-z screen .
I HAVE POSTED AS ATTATCHMENT.
boogah
Aug 5, 2008, 01:16 AM
Something is definately wrong do not let anyone convince you it's your processor bottleknecking your graphics card or a driver issue because I get just under 10,000 on 3D Mark 06 and my system which is alot weaker than your. See my specification on the side.
I think your issue is miss-configurations in the BIOS. The 9450 is rated at a clock frequency of 2.66 Ghz yet your current CPU is frequency is at 1999.98 MHZ. Your processor is definately down clocked, you have to go into the BIOS and raise it via multiplier to 8x
No that's not wrong... that's Intel Speedstep it changes multiplier when system is at idle.
boogah
Aug 5, 2008, 01:18 AM
I HAVE POSTED AS ATTATCHMENT.
GPUZ screen seems right. You still didn't say which resolution you ran 3Dmark06 at.
ShiBDiB
Aug 5, 2008, 01:19 AM
speedstep or eist, u can try disabling it in bios, it will keep ur mobo from slowing down when idle but i dont think thats ur problem.
and get vista.. u have a quality dx10 card and ur still using xp...
beyond that i cant tell u why ur computer is slow
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 01:21 AM
Can you give us a 3dmark06 result screeny, and maybe a cpu-z. Also download this (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163), and check what kind of gpu temps your hitting on load, and this (http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/) to see what kind of cpu temps your hitting on load. Overheating due to a badly seated cpu hs would be my first guess, you gotta crank the fan up on the gpu too. I get 14k in 06 w/ half your gpu and less than half your proc, you should be rocking upwards of 17k easy.
What cpu cooling are you using?
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 01:21 AM
GPUZ screen seems right. You still didn't say which resolution you ran 3Dmark06 at.
it was on the default settings which i think is at 1024 x 768
boogah
Aug 5, 2008, 01:28 AM
that's the weirdest thing. I ran 3dmark06 with my Q9450 with a 8800GTS G92 at stock speeds and get atleast 13k.
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 01:32 AM
Can you give us a 3dmark06 result screeny, and maybe a cpu-z. Also download this (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163), and check what kind of gpu temps your hitting on load, and this (http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/) to see what kind of cpu temps your hitting on load. Overheating due to a badly seated cpu hs would be my first guess, you gotta crank the fan up on the gpu too. I get 14k in 06 w/ half your gpu and less than half your proc, you should be rocking upwards of 17k easy.
What cpu cooling are you using?
I agree with farlex. I've got a 9800gx2 with a c2d e8400 and 3 gigs ddr2 800 ram, I score just over 15k AT stock settings. Your system should kick ass.
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 01:36 AM
First off I hope you know that a 9800GX2 bottlenecks if your CPU is at stock. You would need to OC it to 3.0 or more if you want to have the performance you want.
Actually, I found that I needed atleast 3.6 before I stopped seeing major benchmark increases(from stock{3 gigs} to 3.8 was over a 3000 point gain, but 3.8 to 4.25 I only saw a 1000 point increase)
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 01:38 AM
What motherboard are you using?
ZenZimZaliben
Aug 5, 2008, 01:43 AM
Stupid question...
Did you install the card?
How big is your powersupply. I believe these require a 600+ watt PS.
CrackerJack
Aug 5, 2008, 01:44 AM
Model Name EP35-DS3
first post
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 01:45 AM
What motherboard are you using?
Looks like he's using this mb (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2741). And yeah val disregard everything being said about you cpu needing to be oc'd to not bottleneck the gx2. The only way your getting bottleneck is if the cpu is getting so hot it has to slow itself down, which is probably what's happening, along w/ the gpu overheating. If everything is working properly (heatsink properly mounted and fan up high on gpu) you should be able to handle crysis on very high and get over 15-16k in 06 at stock settings no problem. Oc for extra goodness. :)
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 01:45 AM
Stupid question...
Did you install the card?
How big is your powersupply. I believe these require a 600+ watt PS.
they do, but they also require a 8 pin and a 6 pin pci-e connector. I would think her PSU would be enough considering the connections the gx2 requires. But it doesn't hurt to ask, what PSU are you running Val?
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 01:48 AM
Can you give us a 3dmark06 result screeny, and maybe a cpu-z. Also download this (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163), and check what kind of gpu temps your hitting on load, and this (http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/) to see what kind of cpu temps your hitting on load. Overheating due to a badly seated cpu hs would be my first guess, you gotta crank the fan up on the gpu too. I get 14k in 06 w/ half your gpu and less than half your proc, you should be rocking upwards of 17k easy.
What cpu cooling are you using?
Here is the print out from 3dmrk06
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 01:50 AM
they do, but they also require a 8 pin and a 6 pin pci-e connector. I would think her PSU would be enough considering the connections the gx2 requires. But it doesn't hurt to ask, what PSU are you running Val?
860w Shaw atx 2.00 tri power fan
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 01:50 AM
Looks like he's using this mb (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2741). And yeah val disregard everything being said about you cpu needing to be oc'd to not bottleneck the gx2. The only way your getting bottleneck is if the cpu is getting so hot it has to slow itself down, which is probably what's happening, along w/ the gpu overheating. If everything is working properly (heatsink properly mounted and fan up high on gpu) you should be able to handle crysis on very high and get over 15-16k in 06 at stock settings no problem. Oc for extra goodness. :)
Actually at stock setting, the q9450 will bottleneck the card(keep that in mind for the future), but that isn't the problem here, Val should be scoring twice as much on 3dmark06 at stock settings. So moving on, the PSU?
ZenZimZaliben
Aug 5, 2008, 01:50 AM
860w Shaw atx 2.00 tri power fan
thats plenty
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 01:52 AM
Looks like he's using this mb (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2741). And yeah val disregard everything being said about you cpu needing to be oc'd to not bottleneck the gx2. The only way your getting bottleneck is if the cpu is getting so hot it has to slow itself down, which is probably what's happening, along w/ the gpu overheating. If everything is working properly (heatsink properly mounted and fan up high on gpu) you should be able to handle crysis on very high and get over 15-16k in 06 at stock settings no problem. Oc for extra goodness. :)
gigabyte s-series EP35-DS3
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 01:52 AM
Actually at stock setting, the q9450 will bottleneck the card(keep that in mind for the future), but that isn't the problem here, Val should be scoring twice as much on 3dmark06 at stock settings. So moving on, the PSU?
Bottleneck it enough to not get the full power of the gx2, sure. Enough to make crysis unplayable over medium and 7k on 06, not a chance. Are you using the stock hs val? And what thermal paste? Did you get the temps? Those weren't quite the 06 results I was going for, I was hoping for something with the score results page for the three main tests. And go ahead and make sure all pins are fully and firmly attached on the cpu hs.
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 01:55 AM
actually, after alittle bit of looking into the sHAW psu'S, I found this-
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/764486.html
seems you got a POS PSU. By any chance, you got another PSU laying around you can try?
Kursah
Aug 5, 2008, 01:56 AM
Something I just noticed from your GPU-Z screenshot...get off those 175.xx drivers, try the 177.66 or .79 betas and see if those help ya out...the .79's are in pre-whql so they should be pretty close to official.
Also wouldn't hurt to download dxweb installer and make sure you have the most recent DX updates.
Just my 2 cents, but I did noticed a performance improvement on my 9600GT from 174 series to 177 series, I steered clear of the 175's due to others disliking them.
Hope that helps! Don't think it'll make THAT big of a difference, but who knows?
Cold Storm
Aug 5, 2008, 01:56 AM
I would go and download the latest drivers (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=67084) for the card. Then go and play in bios with the stepping and making sure the ram is set at the appropriate ram speed.. Those to along with the driver can do things with 3dmark06...
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 01:57 AM
Bottleneck it enough to not get the full power of the gx2, sure. Enough to make crysis unplayable over medium and 7k on 06, not a chance.
Isn't that what I said?
the q9450 will bottleneck the card(keep that in mind for the future), but that isn't the problem here, Val should be scoring twice as much on 3dmark06 at stock settings.
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 01:58 AM
Guys, Shaw power supplies are shit, I'm willing to bet that's her problem.
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 02:00 AM
actually, after alittle bit of looking into the sHAW psu'S, I found this-
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/764486.html
seems you got a POS PSU. By any chance, you got another PSU laying around you can try?
No i dont have one that would push out enough power for this card but i will see if i can borrow one .
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 02:00 AM
Guys, Shaw power supplies are shit, I'm willing to bet that's her problem.
Maybe, however crappy psu symptoms are usually a bit different from this. Unless this is not capable of pumping around 200w of it's rated power, I don't think that's the issue. There would likely be random turn-offs and such. Not that it shouldn't be remedied, but I don't think that's causing this problem. I'm still betting on cpu overheating. I've seen it I don't know how many times, the 775 heatsinks are rough, and it's easy not to fully attach them. And when they aren't fully attached, things exactly like this start to happen. At least maybe look at your BIOS temps val?
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 02:07 AM
Maybe, however crappy psu symptoms are usually a bit different from this. Unless this is not capable of pumping around 200w of it's rated power, I don't think that's the issue. There would likely be random turn-offs and such. Not that it shouldn't be remedied, but I don't think that's causing this problem. I'm still betting on cpu overheating. I've seen it I don't know how many times, the 775 heatsinks are rough, and it's easy not to fully attach them. And when they aren't fully attached, things exactly like this start to happen. At least maybe look at your BIOS temps val?
here is the gpu temps not under load
i also had everest installed and temps for cpu were around 48c
PrudentPrincess
Aug 5, 2008, 02:08 AM
Maybe, however crappy psu symptoms are usually a bit different from this. Unless this is not capable of pumping around 200w of it's rated speed, I don't think that's the issue. There would likely be random turn-offs and such. Not that it shouldn't be remedied, but I don't think that's causing this problem. I'm still betting on cpu overheating. I've seen it I don't know how many times, the 775 heatsinks are rough, and it's easy not to fully attach them. And when they aren't fully attached, things exactly like this start to happen. At least maybe look at your BIOS temps val?
God I made a thread here with a screenie from when that happened to me. punched one plug too deep, the other one came out. :shadedshu
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8707/picture2038pe1.jpg
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 02:13 AM
here is the gpu temps not under load
i also had everest installed and temps for cpu were around 48c
Gpu doesn't look too bad there. Your fan isn't at 0% right, it is probably at like 27% or so I would hope. I don't know why it would be at 0%, if that's busted then there's your problem. Cpu temps isn't too bad either, a little warm, but not terrible. However, core temps are really what's important here, that's why I linked you that program real temp. If you cpu at idle is reporting 48c, your cores are very possibly around 60c, and you don't really wanna go any higher than that. Still, to cause that much performance loss they're gonna need to get upwards of 80c at least probably. Try the programs I linked earlier and see your fan speed and core temps. Barbaric may be right though, you are warm, but not warm enough to cause that kind of performance loss, may be your psu. Stock intel hs?
God I made a thread here with a screenie from when that happened to me. punched one plug too deep, the other one came out. :shadedshu
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8707/picture2038pe1.jpg
:laugh: Yeah it can be terrible. When I was just learning the ropes of the comp building game, I had a pin out on my pentium d. I hit over 100c in the BIOS, and did so for a couple of days. I kept asking my friend and he was like no it's fine, thinking I meant Fahrenheit. Tried to play Oblivion when it was like that, choppy as hell. Chip still works like a charm.......
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 02:23 AM
I've had my gx2 hit almost 100'c (forgetting to turn the fan up when I game) and never had anything but flawless performance from it.
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 02:29 AM
Gpu doesn't look too bad there. Your fan isn't at 0% right, it is probably at like 27% or so I would hope. I don't know why it would be at 0%, if that's busted then there's your problem. Cpu temps isn't too bad either, a little warm, but not terrible. However, core temps are really what's important here, that's why I linked you that program real temp. If you cpu at idle is reporting 48c, your cores are very possibly around 60c, and you don't really wanna go any higher than that. Still, to cause that much performance loss they're gonna need to get upwards of 80c at least probably. Try the programs I linked earlier and see your fan speed and core temps. Barbaric may be right though, you are warm, but not warm enough to cause that kind of performance loss, may be your psu. Stock intel hs?
:laugh: Yeah it can be terrible. When I was just learning the ropes of the comp building game, I had a pin out on my pentium d. I hit over 100c in the BIOS, and did so for a couple of days. I kept asking my friend and he was like no it's fine, thinking I meant Fahrenheit. Tried to play Oblivion when it was like that, choppy as hell. Chip still works like a charm.......
i have looked at my fans ( ihave 3 x 120cm fans in antec 900 the HS are standed and i have no additional cooling.
i will download those links you sent and post the results, imm downloading the new driver as we speak.
as for the paste used on the cpu i dont know this machine was already assembled when i bought it a few weeks ago.
i have had vista on this comp and the 3d marks were better only i thoughti would put xp back on to see if it was a vista driver problem tha caused lack of performance.
i got P7690 WITH THE VANTAGE TEST.
thanks.
AsRock
Aug 5, 2008, 02:29 AM
Sheesh my 3800 x2 gets 7600 to 8k with my 2900 lol.. Maybe try with one card then try it with the other after see if there running the same as each other and with better marks.
Check for heat at the sides of the case watch the temps.
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 02:36 AM
i have looked at my fans ( ihave 3 x 120cm fans in antec 900 the HS are standed and i have no additional cooling.
i will download those links you sent and post the results, imm downloading the new driver as we speak.
as for the paste used on the cpu i dont know this machine was already assembled when i bought it a few weeks ago.
i have had vista on this comp and the 3d marks were better only i thoughti would put xp back on to see if it was a vista driver problem tha caused lack of performance.
i got P7690 WITH THE VANTAGE TEST.
thanks.
Well now see that score isn't too bad. Not great, but not terribly wrong. 7k in 06 is way to low, 7k in vantage is a little more where it should be.
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 02:37 AM
Sheesh my 3800 x2 gets 7600 to 8k with my 2900 lol.. Maybe try with one card then try it with the other after see if there running the same as each other and with better marks.
Check for heat at the sides of the case watch the temps.
She has a GX2, that's a single card with 2 gpu's on it
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 02:37 AM
Sheesh my 3800 x2 gets 7600 to 8k with my 2900 lol.. Maybe try with one card then try it with the other after see if there running the same as each other and with better marks.
Check for heat at the sides of the case watch the temps.
i went into the nvida control panel and changed from Multi gpu mode to display mode which disabled one side of the card, i then ran 3dmark and got worse results, so that shows that the card is working in sli, also with the 9800gx2 there are lights on the power connectors and dvi connectors all show green.
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 02:41 AM
What exactly is the problem your encountering in crysis at higher settings?
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 02:50 AM
What exactly is the problem your encountering in crysis at higher settings?
im getting lag, freeze ups and the sound is very tinny with digital echo screen seems to jump a bit
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 02:53 AM
im getting lag, freeze ups and the sound is very tinny with digital echo screen seems to jump a bit
Have you played around w/ any other games?
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 03:07 AM
Have you played around w/ any other games?
i have driver grid that seems to go better, still have the same lag and tinny sound just not as bad as crysis
CrackerJack
Aug 5, 2008, 03:11 AM
i have driver grid that seems to go better, still have the same lag and tinny sound just not as bad as crysis
I wouldn't compare to Crysis! Do you have Unreal 3? If so use this benchmark, it's one of the best in game benchmarks. You must have Unreal 3 install.
UT3 Benchmark (http://www.hocbench.com/ut3.php)
PrudentPrincess
Aug 5, 2008, 03:15 AM
I wouldn't compare to Crysis! Do you have Unreal 3? If so use this benchmark, it's one of the best in game benchmarks. You must have Unreal 3 install.
UT3 Benchmark (http://www.hocbench.com/ut3.php)
Even if he does, we need to find out whats wrong with his 3DMark score. Giving up is NOT AN OPTION. :laugh:
DaedalusHelios
Aug 5, 2008, 03:16 AM
Thats definately your power delivery's fault.... PSU is to weak(low amps on the 12V rail), or maybe just a wiring issue.
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 03:17 AM
Yeah I barbaric may have been right, power could be the issue. What's really perplexing to me is your saying you score roughly the same on 3dmark06 and vantage, and that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
CrackerJack
Aug 5, 2008, 03:18 AM
Even if he does, we need to find out whats wrong with his 3DMark score. Giving up is NOT AN OPTION. :laugh:
Not giving, just narrow his options. ;) Cause it could me 3dmark, If it's a new build. Do you have all the 3dmark updates? The lastest opengl patch?<- This has saved a few people in the past.
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 03:19 AM
Thats definately your power delivery's fault.... PSU is to weak(low amps on the 12V rail), or maybe just a wiring issue.
This is still my thinking also. The GX2 is a beast when it comes to power consumption(remember it has two 8800 gts gen92 gpu's on it).
CrackerJack
Aug 5, 2008, 03:22 AM
What the crap is Shaw 860w, never heard of it.
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 03:22 AM
Not giving, just narrow his options. ;) Cause it could me 3dmark, If it's a new build. Do you have all the 3dmark updates? The lastest opengl patch?<- This has saved a few people in the past.
i ran the 3dmark06 i have downloaded the free version from there web page i would imagine this would have been patched.
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 03:24 AM
i ran the 3dmark06 i have downloaded the free version from there web page i would imagine this would have been patched.
Can you look on the side of your psu, there will be a table there. Look at the numbers under the columns for 12V, and tell us what the A are for each (if more than one).
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 03:24 AM
Not giving, just narrow his options. ;) Cause it could me 3dmark, If it's a new build. Do you have all the 3dmark updates? The lastest opengl patch?<- This has saved a few people in the past.
She's also having problems in games aswell
Pinchy
Aug 5, 2008, 03:25 AM
OK after a quick read of this thread I have to agree with BarbaricSoul.
Shaw PSU's are BAD!!!
As an Australian I know of them. go through the Whilrpool forums (www.whirlpool.net.au) and read all about it. Take it out ASAP before it blows your PC up.
Dont bother reading the values on the side...they are all overrated POS's. The 860W probably equals 200W of "real" power.
CrackerJack
Aug 5, 2008, 03:25 AM
It's gotta be his PSU then, did a little research. Those PSU's one doesn't really have a offical website. So that should say something.
OK after a quick read of this thread I have to agree with BarbaricSoul.
Shaw PSU's are BAD!!!
As an Australian I know of them. go through the Whilrpool forums (www.whirlpool.net.au) and read all about it. Take it out ASAP before it blows your PC up.
Dont bother reading the values on the side...they are all overrated POS's. The 860W probably equals 200W of "real" power.
AGREE
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 03:28 AM
Dont bother reading the values on the side...they are all overrated POS's. The 860W probably equals 200W of "real" power.
You really think it's that bad? I mean, I know some psu's can go under what they're rated for, but that much under seems bad enough to get sued over. Unstable and around 750w seems reasonable, but under that........... I don't see how they could get away w/ that.
DaMulta
Aug 5, 2008, 03:29 AM
A bad PSU could cause the slow downs and lock ups.;
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 03:30 AM
i have installed riva tuner this is the results
core clock\domain 601 mhz
core clock\shader 1512 mhz
memory clock 999 mhz
intel quad q9450 2000mhz
core temp 25, 25, 29, 35
distance to tj max 70, 70, 66, 60
Pinchy
Aug 5, 2008, 03:30 AM
You really think it's that bad? I mean, I know some psu's can go under what they're rated for, but that much under seems bad enough to get sued over. Unstable and around 750w seems reasonable, but under that........... I don't see how they could get away w/ that.
Na man im sure of it. This is a very ignorant statement...but I would have to say they are the worst PSU manufacturer.
They always blow up :p lol...
Just a FYI...that 860W Tri fan beast costs a whole $27...
I generally like and use generic PSU's on a budget build...but would never use a SHAW. Not even to power a P2 :p.
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 03:32 AM
i have installed riva tuner this is the results
core clock\domain 601 mhz
core clock\shader 1512 mhz
memory clock 999 mhz
intel quad q9450 2000mhz
core temp 25, 25, 29, 35
distance to tj max 70, 70, 66, 60
Well your temps are certainly fine. Looks like psu is the culprit indeed (you win the bet barbaric :D), get the aussies to direct you to a good one, and call the person you bought that from and tell them where to go. :laugh:
Na man im sure of it. This is a very ignorant statement...but I would have to say they are the worst PSU manufacturer.
They always blow up :p lol...
Just a FYI...that 860W Tri fan beast costs a whole $27...
$27 :eek::wtf::shadedshu They may indeed be the worst, that's insane.
CrackerJack
Aug 5, 2008, 03:32 AM
Here some of cases on this PSU. Didn't matter the Wattage, There crap PSU.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/923688.html
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080309042128AA3Dw3F
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/968412.html
I'm still wondering what the ratings are on that psu?!
Pinchy
Aug 5, 2008, 03:38 AM
You can only get them from one store in all of Oz, and the reason they sell is because they are cheap and if you dont do your research...your gone.
I dont even know how they can sell them for $27...the fans and casing would almost cost that lol.
Anywho, i'd say you shop at MSY if you got that SHAW. If so, I would recommend a 600W Toughpower ($147) or 650W CM eXtreme ($97).
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 03:40 AM
here's the ratings-
http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/f5/92/2118_1.JPG
I'm the 1st one to think about the PSU. It's looking like the PSU is the culprit. Yet I think I'm the only one in this thread that hasn't gotten a thank you.:shadedshu
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 03:41 AM
here's the ratings-
http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/f5/92/2118_1.JPG
I'm the 1st one to think about the PSU. It's looking like the PSU is the culprit. Yet I think I'm the only one in this thread that hasn't gotten a thank you.:shadedshu
860w and only 36A on the 12V rail, wow, that is incredible. You win the bet barbaric, your prize from me is 1 thanks. :)
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 03:41 AM
lol(I did mean that laugh in a good way)
CrackerJack
Aug 5, 2008, 03:41 AM
:shadedshu :shadedshu :shadedshu :shadedshu
http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/f5/92/2118_1.JPG
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 03:42 AM
i have installed riva tuner this is the results
core clock\domain 601 mhz
core clock\shader 1512 mhz
memory clock 999 mhz
intel quad q9450 2000mhz
core temp 25, 25, 29, 35
distance to tj max 70, 70, 66, 60
this might be better
Pinchy
Aug 5, 2008, 03:42 AM
For lolz:
SHAW PSU's are a sure fire way to destroy something with a spectacular bang, other than that, they're quite bad.
farlex85
Aug 5, 2008, 03:43 AM
this might be better
Your temps are looking good, ignore what I was saying before, just keep it in mind for later, get that psu out of there pronto. Your playing w/ bad fire, could wreck the machine if you continue w/ as bad as that psu is. Turn off the machine and go get a Earthwatts, ocz, thermaltake, pc power& cooling, antec, actually read the psu guide here (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39758&highlight=psu+guide)and find a good one over 700w I'd say, 600w good one may be ok. Don't stress the machine at all though until you land a new one.
Pinchy
Aug 5, 2008, 03:45 AM
Honestly, I would stop running benchmarks and overloading that PSU. It could literally just blow up (and by could, I mean it has a good chance of doing so).
CrackerJack
Aug 5, 2008, 03:46 AM
Honestly, I would stop running benchmarks and overloading that PSU. It could literally just blow up (and by could, I mean it has a good chance of doing so).
I don't see how it hasn't already. Those AMPS are too high. Just for 3.3v.
Here's mine:
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/17-703-005-04.jpg
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 03:49 AM
my bad, I wasn't the 1st one to think of the PSU. My fault, ZenZimZaliben was the 1st to mention the PSU.
DaMulta
Aug 5, 2008, 03:51 AM
It could also be a bad motherboard. I have seen a bad motherboard behave like that before.
Pinchy
Aug 5, 2008, 03:51 AM
I don't see how it hasn't already. Those AMPS are too high. Just for 3.3v.
Lol it wouldnt surprise me if they are all made up values :p
valkarie
Aug 5, 2008, 03:52 AM
i want to thank you all for your reply, i will do exactly what you have told me shutting down and getting some good power when i do i will come back and let you know how i get on.
thankyou again and best of luck in the olympics
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 03:53 AM
i want to thank you all for your reply, i will do exactly what you have told me shutting down and getting some good power when i do i will come back and let you know how i get on.
thankyou again and best of luck in the olympics
Good Luck with the new PSU
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 03:57 AM
here's a list of PSU compatable with the GX2 according to Nvidia
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_9800gx2_pwr_supply.html
Pinchy
Aug 5, 2008, 04:04 AM
here's a list of PSU compatable with the GX2 according to Nvidia
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_9800gx2_pwr_supply.html
Aww SHAW isnt on there ><
I reckon the CM extreme 650 or TT Toughpower 600W should be good :)
DaedalusHelios
Aug 5, 2008, 06:15 AM
Coolermaster PSU's are just barely better than thermaltakes but they are always better from my experience.
My 750watt coolermaster does a great job supplying power to my rig. I got a great deal on it too. ;)
BarbaricSoul
Aug 5, 2008, 12:06 PM
I'm using the cooler master real power pro 750 watt PSU also, great PSU IMHO. Powers my system flawlessly with all the OC's I've got going.
..'Ant'..
Aug 6, 2008, 12:10 AM
PSU was the issue then hmm.
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