The TPU UK Clubhouse

[FreedomEclipse]

well... if you still want some good gear for a little less, Id happily do you a package deal for whats remaining in my FS thread. (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148496)

you dont need to buy both of my 5850s of course. 5850 still offers really good performance.

have a think about it and get back to me. Im not saying id give you the stuff for free but it i could save you a lot of money in the long run

PSU, TT Frio, and maybe 1 or 2 5850s if you want to take them.

[Fourstaff]

well... if you still want some good gear for a little less, Id happily do you a package deal for whats remaining in my FS thread. (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148496)

you dont need to buy both of my 5850s of course. 5850 still offers really good performance.

have a think about it and get back to me. Im not saying id give you the stuff for free but it i could save you a lot of money in the long run

PSU, TT Frio, and maybe 1 or 2 5850s if you want to take them.

Yeah, I was extremely tempted by your FS thread, but I think I will hold off the urge a bit more. That will keep me from failing my exams next year I hope. Thanks for your offer though. If I managed to pass everything this year (results on 11th), I might just reward myself :3

Side question, What would you get for your first 1:100 MG Gundam Model? I am tempted by Unicorn and Sinanju, also stuff from Seed. Not so impressed by 00 stuff though.

[MightyMission]

How the f**k did she collect 300+Kg worth of shit in just a few years
Women.its there special power.
Hording
drives me fucking insane,i dont know whats worse hording shit or denying that its shit or that it cant be thrown

[FreedomEclipse]

Yeah, I was extremely tempted by your FS thread, but I think I will hold off the urge a bit more. That will keep me from failing my exams next year I hope. Thanks for your offer though. If I managed to pass everything this year (results on 11th), I might just reward myself :3

Side question, What would you get for your first 1:100 MG Gundam Model? I am tempted by Unicorn and Sinanju, also stuff from Seed. Not so impressed by 00 stuff though.

well you know how it goes -- first come first served. dont leave it too late otherwise everything might be gone by the time you get your results

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the first MG model i ever bought was a Full Armour Double Zeta (F.A.Z.Z) I Seed is also a good series to start off. Im gonna get a Wing Zero next. ive got 3 models from gundam seed/seed destiny and a perfect grade wing zero endless waltz custom. but i want the original wing zero because its badass

[Fourstaff]

Probably just going to stick with the standard Freedom etc then.

Edit: Tempted by this: http://gunpla.jp/jgoc/kensakug/public/detail.php?goods_id=0162051&page=5&

[Millennium]

Yes! I am now a lost cause in terms of hardware upgrade sense :)

[cheesy999]

Edit: Tempted by this: http://gunpla.jp/jgoc/kensakug/publi...162051&page=5&

The return of the red comet titanium finish!

what a nice name for a colour, red comet titanium

Where can i buy this in England? I WANT IT!!! partially because it looks awesome and secondly so i can put it through a colour scanner, buy some paint and paint my PC that colour

[FreedomEclipse]

which ever takes your fancy.

[Fourstaff]

what a nice name for a colour, red comet titanium

Where can i buy this in England? I WANT IT!!! partially because it looks awesome and secondly so i can put it through a colour scanner, buy some paint and paint my PC that colour

"The return of the Red Comet" refers to Full Frontal, who has the nickname "Second coming of Char", and Char carries the nickname of Red Comet". Not going to be bothered with further Gundam lore, but that makes the model "titanium finish". Do your research before you criticize :nutkick:

Will do whatever the gunpla master commands, but I have a feeling that it will boil down to dice rolling.

[cheesy999]

"The return of the Red Comet" refers to Full Frontal, who has the nickname "Second coming of Char", and Char carries the nickname of Red Comet". Not going to be bothered with further Gundam lore, but that makes the model "titanium finish". Do your research before you criticize

i wasn't criticising, i actually do want it :confused:

[Fourstaff]

i wasn't critising, i actually do want it :wtf:

And the nutkick is actually a playful one. Internet is shitting all over sarcasm :ohwell:

[scaminatrix]

cheesy, it's your own fault no-one knows when you're serious :roll:

[cheesy999]

And the nutkick is actually a playful one. Internet is shitting all over sarcasm :ohwell:

cheesy, it's your own fault no-one knows when you're serious :roll:

i still have no idea where i can buy one

and how is it my fault?, its the internets

And whilst i'm being accused of criticising, may i say dell appear to be very bad at making keyboards

[Fourstaff]

i still have no idea where i can buy one

And whilst i'm being accused of criticising, may i say dell appear to be very bad at making keyboards

I am getting my friend to ship airlift one from Hong Kong, so I don't know how to get one here.

I am sorry for my American spelling, but that is just a bad habit. Gotta stamp that out.

Edit: Food calling! Will go back to my cave with no internet.

[cheesy999]

I am getting my friend to ship airlift one from Hong Kong, so I don't know how to get one here.

I am sorry for my American spelling, but that is just a bad habit. Gotta stamp that out.

what's it called i'll try typing it in google shopping

[Fourstaff]

Gundam Sinanju titanium finish

[cheesy999]

Gundam Sinanju titanium finish

i might not buy it -> http://www.yesasia.com/global/gundam-uc-mg-msn-06s-sinanju-ver-ka-titanium-finish/1021965176-0-0-0-en/info.html :eek:

[scaminatrix]

and how is it my fault?, its the internets


It's a joke!
But since you seem to be asking an honest question, here's a couple of examples why I never know if you're being serious:


Not me is it? , if it is me just remember half the stuff i say on these forums is a joke or sarcasm

i'm sarcastic and often inappropriate whilst normally right


Don't blame us :p And remember this whole post in in jest, nothing serious :)

[cheesy999]

It's a joke!
But since you seem to be asking an honest question, here's a couple of examples why I never know if you're being serious:






Don't blame us :p And remember this whole post in in jest, nothing serious :)

the easy way to work it out is, i will never be sarcastic about things that are awesome (like guyver, decided to sit down an watch and episode yesterday, had to get up 4 episodes later to change the disk) :D

EDIT: IN OTHER NEWS...
http://i52.tinypic.com/a4n576.gif

[Spectrum]

http://media.techeblog.com/images/strange-demotivational-posters.jpg



that's funnier

[cheesy999]

http://media.techeblog.com/images/strange-demotivational-posters.jpg



that's funnier

see if you can find a bigger fail then this http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/epic-fail-photos-ice-transportation-fail.jpg

and i'm going to post this as i found it on GN and i like it
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7533/1309919690575.jpg

[KieranD]

the easy way to work it out is, i will never be sarcastic about things that are awesome (like guyver, decided to sit down an watch and episode yesterday, had to get up 4 episodes later to change the disk) :D

EDIT: IN OTHER NEWS...
http://i52.tinypic.com/a4n576.gif

:rolleyes: I love how you post and go off on a deviant Cheesy.

LOL i have medical reasons for not picking up on sarcasm *aspergers ftw but only sometimes.

EDIT: I raise your epic fail ice truck escapade
http://img.techpowerup.org/110706/shipment_of_fail.jpg

[scaminatrix]

Seems loads of peole have missed Kreij's latest Stealth Thread...

[cheesy999]

I love how you post and go off on a deviant Cheesy.

i have no idea what that means, could you please paraphrase that?

And i didn't miss krejj's thread, in fact, i think i'm the first entry in the current comp

[scaminatrix]

Oh yea, didn't notice yours! I thought I was the only entrant at one point :laugh:

[cheesy999]

:rolleyes: I love how you post and go off on a deviant Cheesy.

LOL i have medical reasons for not picking up on sarcasm *aspergers ftw but only sometimes.

EDIT: I raise your epic fail ice truck escapade
http://img.techpowerup.org/110706/shipment_of_fail.jpg

i can better that

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2199/1272897854986.jpg

[KieranD]

YOU WIN! Have some of googles finest.
http://img.techpowerup.org/110706/cookies.jpg

What i meant was your posts tend to deviate, like how it starts of one thing and ends up another. Its just an observation.

[cheesy999]

YOU WIN! Have some of googles finest.
http://img.techpowerup.org/110706/cookies.jpg

What i meant was your posts tend to deviate, like how it starts of one thing and ends up another. Its just an observation.

i've been described by some as random, i'm going to take it your doing the same

and i had a bigger win lined up if you'd of countered me, but here it is anyway

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/1274490093623.gif?w=502&h=385

[TheMailMan78]

This is news over here in the states. Gotta love old school Europe. Anyway NOT A TROLL.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43653402/ns/world_news-europe/

[cheesy999]

This is news over here in the states. Gotta love old school Europe. Anyway NOT A TROLL.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43653402/ns/world_news-europe/

no one ever said we were fast...

[TheMailMan78]

no one ever said we were fast...

Meh you hung the bitch that did it. Thats why I like old school Europe. Those guys didn't play.

[cheesy999]

Meh you hung the bitch that did it. Thats why I like old school Europe. Those guys didn't play.

BTW we don't hang people now, just put them in jail for a few months/years

and don't bunch us in with Europe, its only the UK that makes no sense when it does anything, some german guy at the train station moaned that the notice board said the train was 1 minute late and then moaned when it came 3 mins early

[scaminatrix]

In David Attenborough's garden? Don't make me laugh.

[TheMailMan78]

BTW we don't hang people now, just put them in jail for a few months/years

and don't bunch us in with Europe, its only the UK that makes no sense when it does anything, some german guy at the train station moaned that the notice board said the train was 1 minute late and then moaned when it came 3 mins early

Thats my point. You guys didn't used to be pussies. What happen?

z71nTqRPOjE

[cheesy999]

Thats my point. You guys didn't used to be pussies. What happen?

we decided to start doing awesome stuff for no reason and blaming the failures on america

EDIT:AWESOME FILM ALERT!!!
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww313/DoctorSmashy/DarkKnightattheMuseumcopy.jpg

[TheMailMan78]

we decided to start doing awesome stuff for no reason and blaming the failures on america

Ah ok so you are Democrats now!

[cheesy999]

Ah ok so you are Democrats now!

What does that mean?

we hate the liberals after they got into a coalition with the cons and abandoned all of their election manifesto

so i'm guessing your talking of a party we don't have here...

[Tatty_One]

Thats my point. You guys didn't used to be pussies. What happen?

z71nTqRPOjE

Innocent people got killed, after a while the general population start getting twitchy, especially if their neighbours start ending up on some funny chair, you know where they think they are going to be questioned about something when all of a sudden some guy in a uniform throws a switch, the national grid goes down for a couple of seconds and when the light comes back on all there is left on the chair is an eyeball with a note, on reading the note it said "pfffftt the yanks did it!"

We decided in the late 50's that enough was enough, we would much rather abolish the death penalty and just let our good old police force kill anybody who gets on the underground sweaty with a tan..... saves the government all that negative PR.

[TheMailMan78]

The death penalty is the corner stone of a successfully society. You guys have not lasted 800 years being afraid to punish people with extreme prejudices. Problem is with the US is we don't do it publicly anymore. A few good hangings of some pedophiles and gangbangers and I bet a lot of bullshit would slow down.

[cheesy999]

The death penalty is the corner stone of a successfully society. You guys have not lasted 800 years being afraid to punish people with extreme prejudices. Problem is with the US is we don't do it publicly anymore. A few good hangings of some pedophiles and gangbangers and I bet a lot of bullshit would slow down.

in the Uk the police have a tendency to shoot criminals especially near the tube

EDIT:here it is http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/no-coverup-in-tube-shooting-police-chief/2005/08/19/1124435141706.html

[theoneandonlymrk]

A few good hangings of some pedophiles and gangbangers and I bet a lot of bullshit would slow down.

yeh on a worldwide level plus chemical castration for kids of dropout parents(them castrated too) ,save me some tax when im 60

and do you call a choice of 2/3 effit 5 once every 4-5 years, then they do what they want and finnish with a big fuck yall day of approving shit laws, democracy lmao for us all:roll:

[MightyMission]

the problem is not that the people are afraid to openly kangaroo court on some paedo's and rapists/traffic wardens etc,its that the people who make the laws are the worst offenders.

[Tatty_One]

The death penalty is the corner stone of a successfully society. You guys have not lasted 800 years being afraid to punish people with extreme prejudices. Problem is with the US is we don't do it publicly anymore. A few good hangings of some pedophiles and gangbangers and I bet a lot of bullshit would slow down.

Whilst personally I am a supporter of the death penality (we actually still do have the death penalty in the Armed Forces for 3 offences), statistics show that some people get wrongly convicted..... thats a few dozen innocent dead people a year! :wtf:

[TheMailMan78]

Whilst personally I am a supporter of the death penality (we actually still do have the death penalty in the Armed Forces for 3 offences), statistics show that some people get wrongly convicted..... thats a few dozen innocent dead people a year! :wtf:

Oh I know. And I get ya. But this isn't the 19th century anymore when it comes to forensics. DNA, ballistic forensics (Which you and I both know some about) are day and night to what they were just 20 years ago. Times have changed and the chance of error is much smaller.

Bring back the example of death. The burden on society is much greater when scum lives. That money could be better spent on prevention programs in lower income areas.

In the US I read that it takes up to 120,000 a year to maintain one prisoner in a maximum security prison. Some of these guys are in for life. Why should we spend 2 million+ dollars for 20 years of the remainder of his life for him to contribute nothing? That money could be far better spent on programs to prevent children from growing up like him.

[theoneandonlymrk]

Whilst personally I am a supporter of the death penality (we actually still do have the death penalty in the Armed Forces for 3 offences), statistics show that some people get wrongly convicted..... thats a few dozen innocent dead people a year!

a valid point but if 10 years in jails worth of appeals dosnt save them and the proof is beyond doubt, deep tho

im gental at heart but feel that the extreem should be met with the extreem so id probably go with some capital punishment based on an lol evil review court or sumat

[WhiteLotus]

Oh I know. And I get ya. But this isn't the 19th century anymore when it comes to forensics. DNA, ballistic forensics (Which you and I both know some about) are day and night to what they were just 20 years ago. Times have changed and the chance of error is much smaller.

Bring back the example of death. The burden on society is much greater when scum lives. That money could be better spent on prevention programs in lower income areas.

In the US I read that it takes up to 120,000 a year to maintain one prisoner in a maximum security prison. Some of these guys are in for life. Why should we spend 2 million+ dollars for 20 years of the remainder of his life for him to contribute nothing? That money could be far better spent on programs to prevent children from growing up like him.

Death penalty assumes that the person can't change. And our society is based on the fact that people can change and should be given the chance to do so. You know those good old Christian values. I find it very strange that the US, a country that is so fearful of God, is willing enough to take his position in deciding who dies and who does not. All for the sake of, it seems, convenience.

I am glad we no longer have the death penalty but we should definitely have some better prisons/length in time/ justice system.

[Spectrum]

bah! those images are old.
http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/memes-your-retarded.jpg

[InnocentCriminal]

Death penalty assumes that the person can't change. And our society is based on the fact that people can change and should be given the chance to do so. You know those good old Christian values. I find it very strange that the US, a country that is so fearful of God, is willing enough to take his position in deciding who dies and who does not. All for the sake of, it seems, convenience.

I am glad we no longer have the death penalty but we should definitely have some better prisons/length in time/ justice system.

I agree. The really f'ing evil cunts (paedos, rapists et al) should be tested on, instead of animals imo. I hate animal testing and I hate these sort of cock'eads; makes sense to me really. Human rights... pffft!

[TheMailMan78]

Death penalty assumes that the person can't change. And our society is based on the fact that people can change and should be given the chance to do so. You know those good old Christian values. I find it very strange that the US, a country that is so fearful of God, is willing enough to take his position in deciding who dies and who does not. All for the sake of, it seems, convenience.

I am glad we no longer have the death penalty but we should definitely have some better prisons/length in time/ justice system.

Pedophiles and career criminals do not change. Have you ever seen the stats at where a pedophile commits another crime after being "rehabilitated"? It was almost 98% back in 1997. Really who cares if someone "changes" if they rapped 20+ children or if a scumbag kills a family for a gang initiation? What do they "change" to and why should society care at that point?

The damage they have already done will be felt for generations. Supporting them for decades to come takes the chance away from children who could use the guidance that money could have provided them. So in essence you are perpetuating the problem for generations by not solving it with the ease of an injection or the pull of a trigger.

As for a Biblical take on it I don't think you wanna go there. A) Tatty will have to do some serious cleaning in just a few posts. B) I can show you dozens of examples in the Bible where capital punishment is not only allowed but sanctioned by the almighty himself.

Personally I am looking at this from a logical point of view. Why should a society support someone convicted of a crime and condemned to serve a life sentence? Its like getting a cancer and putting a band aid on it. No its better to cut it out so that the wound may heal and promote growth. Same thing with capital punishment. Why should tax money go to support something that gives nothing back in return when, supporting education has proven to reduce crime? Why?

[erocker]

I am glad we no longer have the death penalty but we should definitely have some better prisons/length in time/ justice system

That gets expensive really fast.

[TheMailMan78]

bah! those images are old.
http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/memes-your-retarded.jpg

lol I read that in his voice.

[WhiteLotus]

Pedophiles and career criminals do not change. Have you ever seen the stats at where a pedophile commits another crime after being "rehabilitated"? It was almost 98% back in 1997. Really who cares if someone "changes" if they rapped 20+ children or if a scumbag kills a family for a gang initiation? What do they "change" to and why should society care at that point?

The damage they have already done will be felt for generations. Supporting them for decades to come takes the chance away from children who could use the guidance that money could have provided them. So in essence you are perpetuating the problem for generations by not solving it with the ease of an injection or the pull of a trigger.

As for a Biblical take on it I don't think you wanna go there. A) Tatty will have to do some serious cleaning in just a few posts. B) I can show you dozens of examples in the Bible where capital punishment is not only allowed but sanctioned by the almighty himself.

Personally I am looking at this from a logical point of view. Why should a society support someone convicted of a crime and condemned to serve a life sentence? Its like getting a cancer and putting a band aid on it. No its better to cut it out so that the wound may heal and promote growth. Same thing with capital punishment. Why should tax money go to support something that gives nothing back in return when, supporting education has proven to reduce crime? Why?


No really, our justice system is based on the Christian value of reform and repenting. I never said I like it, but that's just the way it is.


That gets expensive really fast.

Not if you stop giving them xbox/sky/whatever.

[KieranD]

The death penalty is the corner stone of a successfully society. You guys have not lasted 800 years being afraid to punish people with extreme prejudices. Problem is with the US is we don't do it publicly anymore. A few good hangings of some pedophiles and gangbangers and I bet a lot of bullshit would slow down.

Yeah thats why your country has a low crime rate :rolleyes:

Corporal Punishment, as Tatty stated many innocent people got the death penalty. Personally i don't think that killing even one innocent person is worth it. People are wrongly accused even with modern techniques, its impossible to tell 100% beyond a doubt. To me how do you determine when someone is guilty? this isn't just vandalism its a serious crime for example. I don't take someone's life lightly.

I don't want people dying in my name, i also wouldn't die for anyone because that's what it amounts to when you have a death sentence would you your self accept the sentence? If you where wrongly accused would you find that acceptable?

But really who are we to decide who dies? When does it just turn into revenge killings? That isnt really what our judicial system is about.

The problem is repeat offenders who cost the most to the system you have to stamp out a culture. Cutting costs where applicable it doesn't really solve the problem the crimes still get committed you have to solve the issues that create the crimes. Prevention is the best medicine.

[WhiteLotus]

Yeah thats why your country has a low crime rate :rolleyes:

Corporal Punishment, as Tatty stated many innocent people got the death penalty. Personally i don't think that killing even one innocent person is worth it. People are wrongly accused even with modern techniques, its impossible to tell 100% beyond a doubt. To me how do you determine when someone is guilty? this isn't just vandalism its a serious crime for example. I don't take someone's life lightly.

I don't want people dying in my name, i also wouldn't die for anyone because that's what it amounts to when you have a death sentence would you your self accept the sentence? If you where wrongly accused would you find that acceptable?

But really who are we to decide who dies? When does it just turn into revenge killings? That isnt really what our judicial system is about.

The problem is repeat offenders who cost the most to the system you have to stamp out a culture. Cutting costs where applicable it doesn't really solve the problem the crimes still get committed you have to solve the issues that create the crimes. Prevention is the best medicine.

US crime rate has plummeted in the last decade or so

[erocker]

US crime rate has plummeted in the last decade or so

Indeed. That's because all of the criminals are locked up, playing Xbox, getting free healthcare and food.

[KieranD]

Louis Theroux program on BBC 2 Miami Mega Jail didn't exactly show people playing xbox and lounging, aye well that maybe happens in our prisons lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Theroux:_Miami_Mega_Jail

It was interesting to see the boot camp that some offenders go to go to.

At the end they showed another prison that some people moved to and there was a lot less fights there.

EDIT: Here is an analogy, if you support the death penalty then what about shooting pow's in war. Id love to hear someone's opinion on that.

[TheMailMan78]

Louis Theroux program on BBC 2 Miami Mega Jail didn't exactly show people playing xbox and lounging, aye well that maybe happens in our prisons lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Theroux:_Miami_Mega_Jail

It was interesting to see the boot camp that some offenders go to go to.

At the end they showed another prison that some people moved to and there was a lot less fights there.

lol I was in that jail! :laugh: Dade County.

Here is an analogy, if you support the death penalty then what about shooting pow's in war. Id love to hear someone's opinion on that.

Not the same thing. Not even remotely. No POW should be shot, tortured or anything without a fair trial if even under suspicion. Most soldiers do what they are told and if nothing they did was "morally" corrupt (Rape, Purposely killing civilians etc.) then they should he held until the war is over and released back to their respective nation. They are not criminals.

[Tatty_One]

Death penalty assumes that the person can't change. And our society is based on the fact that people can change and should be given the chance to do so. You know those good old Christian values. I find it very strange that the US, a country that is so fearful of God, is willing enough to take his position in deciding who dies and who does not. All for the sake of, it seems, convenience.

I am glad we no longer have the death penalty but we should definitely have some better prisons/length in time/ justice system.

More importantly to some, Christianity beleives that people can change.... good point though!

[FreedomEclipse]

More importantly to some, Christianity beleives that people can change.... good point though!

Depending on their mental state. Not everyone can change. Look at people like Pete Doherty and Amy Winehouse, always going to rehab but going back to the same bad habits as soon as they come back out.

then theirs worse cases such as serial killers and pedophiles and such who are mentally maladjusted to society because they cant stop killing or touching up little kids.

And speaking of touching up little kids. didnt Catholic priests do the same thing behind closed doors and the pope tried to cover it up?

Even if your christian. doesnt mean you cant walk down a dark road like the catholic priests

[MightyMission]

i saw amy in a shaka dance over at dingwalls camden-she was licking rocks in a dance :(
what a waste

[FreedomEclipse]

what a waste

Not really. I dont find her particularly attractive. i dont like her singing voice. and with her life style i wouldnt get down and dirty with her if she was the last woman on earth.
I find her just totally repulsive and a total waste of space

shes been to rehab more times then pete doherty's been caught for drug posession. the only reason why hes not in the papers now its because hes found a damn good hiding place and the media are currently up in arms about phone hackings. He will definitely have some crack stashed away somewhere nearby.

she cant be helped. because she cant help herself. its like a mangled dog thats been hit by a car and mangled by a pack of foxes and left for dead. the only humane thing you can do is just end its suffering buy lethal injection or putting a chunk of hot lead right between its eyes.

Rehab isnt where she gets help. its where she goes for a holiday

[Tatty_One]

Depending on their mental state. Not everyone can change. Look at people like Pete Doherty and Amy Winehouse, always going to rehab but going back to the same bad habits as soon as they come back out.

then theirs worse cases such as serial killers and pedophiles and such who are mentally maladjusted to society because they cant stop killing or touching up little kids.

And speaking of touching up little kids. didnt Catholic priests do the same thing behind closed doors and the pope tried to cover it up?

Even if your christian. doesnt mean you cant walk down a dark road like the catholic priests

However thats's irrelivant, the point is they CAN change (if they want to). As I said, I am actually a supporter of the death penalty, being a father and grandfather I think any offenses of a sexual nature against minors should be punishable by death, I just don't necessarily think that is a strong moral standpoint and to be honest, I smell hypocracy when I hear about so called Christian government/parties/leaders supporting the death sentance. Damn we criticise some 2nd and 3rd world countries for their lack of human rights and the way they treat both their innocent and guilty citizens and yet some so called western "Christian" governments do equally oppresive things against Human rights but label that as acceptable.

I could rant on some more, like how we (UK) and the (US) turn round to Pakisatan, North Korea and iran about developing a Nuclear weapons strategy when we have them sat in our own back yard.... ohhhh dear hypocracy again :D End of rant!

[scaminatrix]

Hey peeps - I've been offered a second hand U2UFO (silver) for £100. Is this a good deal?

[FreedomEclipse]

Nice deal seeing as they cost $360

[KieranD]

Thats a big mountain mods case!

EDIT: Actually we might have nukes but maybe not for long as we cant afford to keep them and i doubt people will want to refund a deterrent in this economic climate especially when there is no conventional enemy these days. Things might also change if Scotland ever went independent, like England would then be stumped with all the costs and housing the submarines.

Like i said before having the death sentence becomes mostly about revenge killings "paedophiles should be hanged because i have a daughter". I thought the judicial system was made to be impartial so it could be fair to both parties. You know people get convicted even if they didn't do it, what if you where wrongly accused? Would find that okay? Probably not. Like i said before its like having ones cake and trying to eat it.

As for pow's not that i support this but i cant see how anyone can support the death penalty and not killing pow's. See a country gets invaded it has a right to defend itself from an aggressor, lets say the aggressor kills one of your buddies in the regiment? Maybe you want revenge for that? They killed your mate, hows killing pow's any different to putting a murder to the death sentence, if it happened in your home town or something and it wasn't an opposing army it was another one of your friends in the heat of passion? No to me all the type of killing are the same wrong including the government sanctioned stuff that's done in my name that i never consented to. Death penalty pros state cost and the harm the criminal has done, exactly like a pow hows it any different? They done harm they cost money to keep.

I don't see how anyone can morally say they have the upper hand when it comes to supporting corporal punishment, its either about revenge killings or money. Also i don't believe governments should be based on Christian ideals especially when there are people who don't believe in God or are part of another religion.

Maybe next we can discuss euthanasia or assisted suicide? Btw Im being sarcastic because these type of topics are best not discussed on a tech forum especially when people have ideals and will probably never change them which can lead to arguments and such.

[scaminatrix]

It's perfect condition aswell. I should have said - I know it's a good deal, I'm just wondering how good a deal lol
I'll have a look at some FS threads on other forums, see what they've gone for recently.

[FreedomEclipse]

For some reason my mind was relating Tatty to 'noob tubes' in Call of duty..... (no idea why) I was gonna say something stupid like "tatty!! release the noobtubes!!"


Random thought

[scaminatrix]

Bloody hell, $350 on Hardforums this year. Anyone wanna buy a U2? :laugh:

j/k, I'm keeping it :)

[Fourstaff]

So I heard people talking about death penalty and stuff like that. I personally support death penalty, because it does gives a strong message to the public. If they got the wrong person? When you fail, try again as mom always say. Call me cruel and heartless etc, but I believe in absolute efficiency.

[TheMailMan78]

However thats's irrelivant, the point is they CAN change (if they want to). As I said, I am actually a supporter of the death penalty, being a father and grandfather I think any offenses of a sexual nature against minors should be punishable by death, I just don't necessarily think that is a strong moral standpoint and to be honest, I smell hypocracy when I hear about so called Christian government/parties/leaders supporting the death sentance. Damn we criticise some 2nd and 3rd world countries for their lack of human rights and the way they treat both their innocent and guilty citizens and yet some so called western "Christian" governments do equally oppresive things against Human rights but label that as acceptable.

I could rant on some more, like how we (UK) and the (US) turn round to Pakisatan, North Korea and iran about developing a Nuclear weapons strategy when we have them sat in our own back yard.... ohhhh dear hypocracy again :D End of rant!

Certain types of people have been proven scientifically not to change or even be capable of change. Yet we keep them alive after causing harm draining the resources for the next generation. It has nothing to do with religion. Its just common sense.

Thats a big mountain mods case!

EDIT: Actually we might have nukes but maybe not for long as we cant afford to keep them and i doubt people will want to refund a deterrent in this economic climate especially when there is no conventional enemy these days. Things might also change if Scotland ever went independent, like England would then be stumped with all the costs and housing the submarines.

Like i said before having the death sentence becomes mostly about revenge killings "paedophiles should be hanged because i have a daughter". I thought the judicial system was made to be impartial so it could be fair to both parties. You know people get convicted even if they didn't do it, what if you where wrongly accused? Would find that okay? Probably not. Like i said before its like having ones cake and trying to eat it.

As for pow's not that i support this but i cant see how anyone can support the death penalty and not killing pow's. See a country gets invaded it has a right to defend itself from an aggressor, lets say the aggressor kills one of your buddies in the regiment? Maybe you want revenge for that? They killed your mate, hows killing pow's any different to putting a murder to the death sentence, if it happened in your home town or something and it wasn't an opposing army it was another one of your friends in the heat of passion? No to me all the type of killing are the same wrong including the government sanctioned stuff that's done in my name that i never consented to. Death penalty pros state cost and the harm the criminal has done, exactly like a pow hows it any different? They done harm they cost money to keep.

I don't see how anyone can morally say they have the upper hand when it comes to supporting corporal punishment, its either about revenge killings or money. Also i don't believe governments should be based on Christian ideals especially when there are people who don't believe in God or are part of another religion.

Maybe next we can discuss euthanasia or assisted suicide? Btw Im being sarcastic because these type of topics are best not discussed on a tech forum especially when people have ideals and will probably never change them which can lead to arguments and such.

Its not about revenge. Its about thinning out the heard of bum stock so new stock can eat.

[FreedomEclipse]

So I heard people talking about death penalty and stuff like that. I personally support death penalty, because it does gives a strong message to the public. If they got the wrong person? When you fail, try again as mom always say. Call me cruel and heartless etc, but I believe in absolute efficiency.

so youre happy to watch innocent people get hanged or sent to the electric chair due to overzealous (or just plain useless) cops?

what if it was you who was innocent and being strapped into the electric chair? would you just shrug your shoulders and say to yourself that they wont make the mistake again or would you be kicking and screaming while they drag you to the chair and strap you in, proclaiming your innocents and that they have the wrong guy??

because if thats the way you think then thats just wrong. because every one knows that the London MET police falls far from the tree when it comes to other police forces in dfferent countries. they dont always get their shit right. granted no police force has a 100% track record. but the UK seem to make a lot more errors then anywhere else Ive seen

[Fourstaff]

so youre happy to watch innocent people get hanged or sent to the electric chair due to overzealous (or just plain useless) cops?

Not happy, but you cannot have anything if you are not willing to trade something in return. The trade currently stands at: 1 innocent life every so often to stamp down crime. A price I am willing to pay, even if I am the sacrificial goat. I will gladly put my life on the line if it means that lots of other people can benefit from it. (Whether I have the balls to face it when that happens is another matter, courage takes time and experience to build). The Met fails, but that is another matter again. I believe in the principle, executing the plan (pun intended) not of my concern.

[FreedomEclipse]

well if your happy to die for other peoples mistakes and Incompetence then more power to you!!

I will not however. youre not a soldier. you have no obligation to anyone asside from yourself. you have a choice. it would be a sad waste of a life if you were to be publicly or privately executed because the cops had the wrong guy. Just like the de Menezes case (stockwell shooting)

the police fucked up. killing an innocent man is an injustice and it would make the MET police even more Complacent because guilty or not. if youre a suspect in a serious crime. they will execute you anyway, and not only is that only wrong. it is the wrong picture to show to the rest of the world. and that makes the UK no better then any country run by a ruthless homicidal mass-murdering dictator that slaughters their own people and dumps them into mass unknown graves.

Learn from their mistakes you say?? the MET police is a joke. Mi5 is also a joke. How many times have you heard on the news that Mi5 recieved tip offs from multiple sources but never acted on it?? so many times have i heard the same thing. If Mi5 or the police had acted. then the london bus bombing probably would have never happend.

you may feel fine about 'sacrificing' yourself for somebodys incompetence. but im not going to take it sitting down if the finger was pointed at me.

[Fourstaff]

I don't expect anyone to have the same ideals as me.

However, if I am made the prime minister of UK, one of the first things I get rid of is Health and safety :D Death Penalty is another one, you must need to have absolute proof for that, eg caught stabbing someone. No wishy washy details like "oh by inference you are the killer". There must be absolute proof to for you to execute a person. Prisoners have to earn their own keep would be another one, I dont expect prisoners to sit in their cells for 20 hours a day "reflecting". What bullshit. Trimming down the public sector will be next, and with that I expect to fire myself by the end of my 5 year tenure.

[cheesy999]

believe it or not health and safety laws are no where near as severe as some people make them out to be, they only require companies to take 'reasonable steps' to prevent injury, so alot of these things companies say health and safety won't let them do is often just them looking for an excuse to not do it.

if you were to make a death penalty i would keep it for repeat offenders, not first timers


Going off-topic seeing as this topics now 2 days old, does anybody know how easy it is to go to japan?, cause i really want to go there, a lot!!! :cool:

i also want to learn Japanese but i don't know where i could do that...

AND THEY CANCELLED THE NEWS OF THE WORLD, THIS IS TURNING OUT TO BE A REALLY GOOD DAY!!!

[Millennium]

Good riddance to the news of the world, though I was reading today it's the UK's #1 paper ,lol! And they just cancel it just like that! wow.

Also +1 on the japan thing provided I could afford it. But I don't want to learn the language!

[scaminatrix]

though I was reading today it's the UK's #1 paper

There's a good reason for that - the same reason they're gone! :laugh:
Everyone buy this Sunday's edition and wrap it in clingfilm - the last one ever will be end up being worth a mint!!

[cheesy999]

I want to learn the langauge as It sounds nice, the people that speak it are awesome, and so i can watch anime in its original form

unfortunatly I dont know where I could learn it so i'm stuck with English and german for now.

I'm 99% sure this Sundays adult mail will be priced at like £5 or something like that.

EDIT:*daily mail, stupid htc spelling correction

[KieranD]

Im not fond of the Japanese as they have a really closed culture but i dont care anyway as its not like i will ever emigrate there, however i do like their products and work attitude.

I LOVE THAT NEWS OF THE WORLD SHUT DOWN!!! I think Murdoch did it to protect the BskyB deal and his other news papers from investigation. One day i hope "The Sun" also shuts down which also happens to be owned by News International, its a liar of a newspaper and it prints a load of tat. Murdochs conglomerate supports the Tories, it did in the 80s too when it tried to break the unions but supported Tony Blair who was apparently in touch with them all the time, just a bit of history for you all.

EDIT: Freedom i just have to say that im glad someone shares a similar view to me as to the previous topic.
Just been playing Shenmue on my Dreamcast have to say it looks good for a dreamcast game!

[FreedomEclipse]

well being Chinese... I have to say that i quite like the Japanese culture. the kids are better raised. more well behaved and the women respect their men a lot more then british women. (and japanese girls are more cute -- dont out drink the men and know how to cook a damn good chicken curry)

and not only that. I like their music a lot better too!!

the only thing though. If i wanted to go live there. Id have to give up my british passport. and since that gets me pretty much anywhere. its not gonna happen.

[Tatty_One]

Good riddance to the news of the world, though I was reading today it's the UK's #1 paper ,lol! And they just cancel it just like that! wow.

Also +1 on the japan thing provided I could afford it. But I don't want to learn the language!

It's actually the biggest single edition selling newspaper on the planet.

[Tatty_One]

Delete the post. Still never heard of it. :laugh:

I wouldn't have expected you to hear of it, our American buddies tend to look more inward than outward :p

[KieranD]

well being Chinese... I have to say that i quite like the Japanese culture. the kids are better raised. more well behaved and the women respect their men a lot more then british women. (and japanese girls are more cute -- dont out drink the men and know how to cook a damn good chicken curry)

and not only that. I like their music a lot better too!!

the only thing though. If i wanted to go live there. Id have to give up my british passport. and since that gets me pretty much anywhere. its not gonna happen.

I thought historically the Chinese and Japanese hated each other?

[Fourstaff]

I thought historically the Chinese and Japanese hated each other?

Tentacle porn and things like that has caused Freedom to defect. :p

Jokes aside, yes Japan and China does not have the best of relationships, but as China puts it, As much as we don't like them (North Korea), they are still neighbours so we will have to help. Same goes to France and Britain. Not the best of friends, but Hitler (and co.) was reason enough to force them together.

[Bo$$]

Ahh! my GTX280 just hit the dust! gonna sell up mah shit and get a GTX570

[FreedomEclipse]

I thought historically the Chinese and Japanese hated each other?

Historically. Japanese people were originally from China.
thats why japanese writing looks very similar to chinese.

[scaminatrix]

Ahh! my GTX280 just hit the dust! gonna sell up mah shit and get a GTX570

I'm waiting for payday, I'll have your 9800GT's when it comes through. 3 weeks max.

[KieranD]

From a historical standpoint, Japan during WW2 tried to annihilate and take over China. They have had MANY confrontations before that. Its a culture thing, i think they find their culture repulsive, Jap's hate a lot of other Asian cultures like Korea. It doesnt matter as a lot of the Asian cultures have superiority complexes towards each other. Like i was just reading if you are American of Chinese descent they consider you only American.

A lot of this generation dont share in this, its generally older people.

Scotland and France where historically always chummy. Scottish warriors fought on the side of France during the medieval period and vice versa.

[FreedomEclipse]

Many many centuries ago. the chinese emperor sent a group of solidiers out to find him something that would grant him imortality, and said they would be executed if they return empty handed.

none of the soldiers ever returned. and thats how the japanese was spawned.

but yeah. Jap vs china was a very dark part of history

[KieranD]

Many many centuries ago. the chinese emperor sent a group of solidiers out to find him something that would grant him imortality, and said they would be executed if they return empty handed.

none of the soldiers ever returned. and thats how the japanese was spawned.

but yeah. Jap vs china was a very dark part of history

Chinese tried to invade Japan and their ships where not sea going and underestimated the distance to Japan and most of them died in the voyage. That was under the reign of Kublai Khan, who i think was one of the only foreign rulers (emperor) of China?

Like i said no one really has animosity these days i mean look at Europeans all best mates, things just change i guess since the second world war. Must've done a lot to bring people together more than we think.
EDIT: Sorry if its boring anyone else, i just find these things interesting lol.

[KieranD]

They are selling Llano A8-3850 at Aria for £99 i think you could make a nice little media pc with that. Shove it in a m-atx rig or even an itx board.

Then at least you have the motherboard (rest of the rig) so if they update the chips you can just swap it out.

[FreedomEclipse]

On a much lighter note. I finally managed to get around downloading that Crysis 2 DX11 patches.

(in an internetcafe with what seems to be a 24Mbps download rate = ftw) cant wait to get home and try the DX11 textures on my brandspanking new 6970s

[Fourstaff]

On a much lighter note...

On the other hand, I see LifeOnMars has unfortunately lost his job and is selling his i5 2500K setup. I am not sure whether he should sell that or not, but if anyone who wants to upgrade to the 2500K might want to consider.

[FreedomEclipse]

On the other hand, I see LifeOnMars has unfortunately lost his job and is selling his i5 2500K setup. I am not sure whether he should sell that or not, but if anyone who wants to upgrade to the 2500K might want to consider.

Its a sign Orange-kun..

My PSU, Frio and Mars's 2500k (& Mobo?? i think hes selling one of those too) throw in a set of overclocked 5850s and you have a beast of a system that will push vantage to over 30k..... not that benchmarks are that important of course. I was just saying.

Its a message from allah -- hes telling you to by mine and Mr. Mars's gear.

its clear as day mate

[Fourstaff]

Its a sign Orange-kun..

My PSU, Frio and Mars's 2500k (& Mobo?? i think hes selling one of those too) throw in a set of overclocked 5850s and you have a beast of a system that will push vantage to over 30k..... not that benchmarks are that important of course. I was just saying.

Its a message from allah -- hes telling you to by mine and Mr. Mars's gear.

its clear as day mate

Thank you Mr Gundam, but as a Chinese (the stereotypical opportunist other than Jews), I have obviously considered and rejected. Not because the price is bad (its very good), but I am not going to buy something before my results come out. If they are bad, I probably should cut down on gaming (rendering the 2500K pretty useless).

[FreedomEclipse]

I am not going to buy something before my results come out. If they are bad, I probably should cut down on gaming (rendering the 2500K pretty useless).

If your results are bad -- Hara kiri will solve that. but buy my gear first!! dont forget. bundle deals are available on request!!

[Millennium]

LifeOnMars's reference 5870 is a crazy good deal. It's like at least £20 cheaper then the cheapest go for on ebay. You could buy it and if you don't like it sell it for a profit!

I was tempted but since I don't play many games any more I'm going to hold off until BF3 upgrading my GPU. Or at least that's the theory!

[FreedomEclipse]

I wonder how 2 5850s would run BF3....

[cheesy999]

I wonder how 2 5850s would run BF3....

easily, i have a feeling its going to be BC2 -20% FPS, so long as you get over 40 now you'll be fine

[FreedomEclipse]

easily, i have a feeling its going to be BC2 -20% FPS, so long as you get over 40 now you'll be fine

I get over 140.....

[cheesy999]

I get over 140.....

i get 50, and why would anyone need 140?, at that point i would just put v-sync on and then the rig would stay silent whilst i was gaming

[Fourstaff]

i get 50, and why would anyone need 140?

It came with his shiny new toys.

[MightyMission]

3d surround would cut that down to something sensible.
though it would take some huge high def screens@highest res.
eye candy ftw!

[cheesy999]

It came with his shiny new toys.

unfortunately a blu-ray drive didn't...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPFCGMZUrLY

[FreedomEclipse]

i get 50, and why would anyone need 140?, at that point i would just put v-sync on and then the rig would stay quite

I said *over* 140 :p and 140fps+ means i get to see more shit on my screen before anyone else does. that means i aquire targets faster and kill faster. unless everyone is running without V-sync

[FreedomEclipse]

unfortunately a blu-ray drive didn't...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPFCGMZUrLY

I have little need for a blue ray drive

[cheesy999]

I said *over* 140 and 140fps means i get to see more shit on my screen before anyone else does. that means i aquire targets faster and kill faster. unless everyone is running without V-sync

yeah, like that 1/1000th of a second you save is going to make a noticeable difference, you'd be better off running eyefinity so you could use your peripheral vision

[Fourstaff]

yeah, like that 1/1000th of a second you save is going to make a noticeable difference, you'd be better off running eyefinity so you could use your peripheral vision

Or get a Killer NIC. :p

[cheesy999]

Or get a Killer NIC.

:laugh:

all the people who don't understand they are cutting about 4ms of something that has between 40ms-200ms from the network alone

[FreedomEclipse]

yeah, like that 1/1000th of a second you save is going to make a noticeable difference, you'd be better off running eyefinity so you could use your peripheral vision

youre just jealous!!

[cheesy999]

youre just jealous!!

not really, i've stopped caring as much about gaming, i'm about films and anime now, thats why i keep saying you should of spent the money on a Dolby DTS Master HD receiver + Speakers and Blu-Ray drive, and a plasma would of been nice but that would of sent the budget sky-high

EDIT: AND MUSIC, but all that needs is some decent headphones

[FreedomEclipse]

not really, i've stopped caring as much about gaming, i'm about films and anime now, thats why i keep saying you should of spent the money on a Dolby DTS Master HD receiver + Speakers and Blu-Ray drive, and a plasma would of been nice but that would of sent the budget sky-high

ive already spent more then £1000 to get this machine so that would depend.

[cheesy999]

ive already spent more then £1000 to get this machine so that would depend.

i'm thinking a 42"-50" panasonic or samsung plasma, attach http://www.richersounds.com/product/av-receivers/onkyo/txsr608/onkyo-txsr608-blk and some speakers and you've got my dream set up

EDIT: And a PS3 for Blu-ray + GT5

[FreedomEclipse]

a side from the bigger screen and better sound system. the money would be wasted. I dont watch TV let alone many dvds or blue ray movies. what makes you think i would sit down and watch B.R just because i have a 50" plasma and a booming soundsystem doesnt mean fuck all to me. Id most likely hook the sound system up to my pc and listen to music while i game on the big 50" plasma. and if i had a 50" plasma, Id need some serious muscle to run it

[cheesy999]

a side from the bigger screen and better sound system. the money would be wasted. I dont watch TV let alone many dvds or blue ray movies. what makes you think i would sit down and watch B.R just because i have a 50" plasma and a booming soundsystem doesnt mean fuck all to me. Id most likely hook the sound system up to my pc and listen to music while i game on the big 50" plasma. and if i had a 50" plasma, Id need some serious muscle to run it

why the serious muscle its still only 1080p?

and are you seriously telling me you don't want to watch your anime in surround sound with HD?

[FreedomEclipse]

why the serious muscle its still only 1080p?

and are you seriously telling me you don't want to watch your anime in surround sound with HD?

I already do on a 23" 1080p screen and Logitech z5500's

[cheesy999]

I already do on a 23" 1080p screen and Logitech z5500's

A: only 23", also have you tried gaming on a plasma, only reason i use my Xbox is that i can play on the sofa 2-3m away, for some reason playing just feels so much better when you don't have your face pressed up against your PC monitor

B: No HD audio

[FreedomEclipse]

A: only 23", also have you tried gaming on a plasma, only reason i use my Xbox is that i can play on the sofa 2-3m away, for some reason playing just feels so much better when you don't have your face pressed up against your PC monitor

B: No HD audio

Yep.

Doesnt my STX class as HD??? Im gonna get some Onkyo's next anyway. if not a new screen

[cheesy999]

Doesnt my STX class as HD??? Im gonna get some Onkyo's next anyway. if not a new screen

the Logitech's don't support HD, last time i checked they just downscaled it down to normal 48khz 16bit at their end, not that it actually makes to much difference (to tell you the truth i use headphone for movies* so i can have an actual volume level and i've never noticed the difference at all)

*sub shakes the house like there's some sort of earthquake as we've got it next to a wall, and that might upset the neighbours so i use my headphones for most purposes

[FreedomEclipse]

Nor does the STX for that matter. If i got a HD sound system id need to hook the sound system up to the 6970 which does (i think) and i still prefer the sound of my STX anyhoo.

[cheesy999]

Nor does the STX for that matter. If i got a HD sound system id need to hook the sound system up to the 6970 which does (i think) and i still prefer the sound of my STX anyhoo.

i've just reached the point now where spending money on Proccesor and graphics card seems pointless, theirs been no innovation in gaming at all in the last few years, besides Batman (and the new tomb-raider looks good

--> http://cfi.thismoment.com/other/1307060962-830.jpg

EDIT: in other news the tomb-raider website just let me in, when i told it my date of birth was the 9th of october 1066 (date of the battle of hastings) and it let me in, so somewhere on their server it says they've just got a visit from a 950 year old :laugh:

[FreedomEclipse]

all updates are done!! shutting shop and heading off home. Good bye my sweet 24mb download rate :(

[cheesy999]

all updates are done!! shutting shop and heading off home. Good bye my sweet 24mb download rate :(

whats with your download speed?

EDIT: Its friday, and that means i'm thinking of changing my Avatar

can't decide between this -> http://cfi.thismoment.com/media/laracroft/b927661a73f72bbd/e0cf737adc648424_830_small.jpg

and this -------------------> http://cfi.thismoment.com/media/laracroft/ed668b281e228518/554f27b38afac338_830_small.jpg

[FreedomEclipse]

whats with your download speed?

EDIT: Its friday, and that means i'm thinking of changing my Avatar

can't decide between this -> http://cfi.thismoment.com/media/laracroft/b927661a73f72bbd/e0cf737adc648424_830_small.jpg

and this -------------------> http://cfi.thismoment.com/media/laracroft/ed668b281e228518/554f27b38afac338_830_small.jpg

I dont have a 24Mb connection at home. All i have this this shitty ass mobile broadband, which gives me hardly 1Mb download rate on most days despite advertising speeds of 7.2Mbps.

Im also trying out their new 4G dongle and it only connects to 4G when it feels like it and even when it does 4G is shit slow. i cant even turn a motherf*cking page! so i gotta disconnect and reconnect again so it goes back to 3G.

Reason why i dont have proper internet..... Family politics thats all im gonna say. And the best 'free wi-fi' *nudge nudge wink wink* around these parts are pretty poor despite me having a 10dB antenna. no good for gaming.

My ping however is still fine for BC2. my ping is like 120ish. used to be a lot worse - around the 200-300+ mark but ive taped the dongle down to a cooking pot of some sorts and its really boosted my signal. I can get 80ping in speedtest and not 200 something like usual.

I would return this 4G dongle but it works a lot better then my previous one.

[Bo$$]

i was stuck on 3 for 3 years i could not game for shit on it, download speeds were like 40kb/s and pings were 180-300.... i hated it

[FreedomEclipse]

i was stuck on 3 for 3 years i could not game for shit on it, download speeds were like 40kb/s and pings were 180-300.... i hated it

Im stuck on them :cry::cry: they are the only people to offer 5Gb for £15 a month. mobile broadband is oh so terribly bad value.

I can game on it but it depends on the time of day. Ive noticed that they throttle the connection HARD. Some days i can barely download at over 3kbps but turning pages or watching a youtube video is absolutely fine. no slow downs at all.

Im gonna call them up and cancel my rolling contract with them. I heard in a lot forums from people that done the same thing. got their monthly bill cut to £10-11 per month. then its £25 for 7Gb on pay as you go....

[FreedomEclipse]

the only other choice i have is connection to a public BT Openzone AP. but their prices are even worse then 3 and most of the mobile broadband providers

[Bo$$]

T mobile are not too bad actually i have a PAYG chip in my netbook it seems pretty good

[FreedomEclipse]

their fair usage policy is retarded. but most 3g providers allow uncapped and unlimited access to internet on mobiles or ipads on 'all you can eat' data plans which is stupid as mobile broadband users are just swept to one side. to avoid 'overloading' their precious network. they choke the speeds of the mobile broadband users. Im gonna give them a ring about their appalling service and also write them a letter. then im gonna gather evidence from disgruntled users on the same network from other forums and independent public survey sites and submit my findings to watchdog.

with the amount of complaints people have made it wont be just a few print outs that are making its way to watch dog. It will be a whole 10inch thick dossier

[cheesy999]

Go to tmobile

[Bo$$]

or even vodafone, on my phone i went over my 1GB data plan, so what they did was they increased my monthly plan to 1.5gb for free...

[NdMk2o1o]

Sorry OT vodka + YouTube = drunken reminiscence FTW :rockout: :toast:

[KieranD]

Quick question i have a boxed up NZXT Tempest plus im using a Lancool K62 case, I've been considering selling these to try and get a Corsair 600T White (£120) do you lads think that's possible. My main concern is shipping and getting buyers. My other concern is these cases might not be worth much any more.

[FreedomEclipse]

Go to tmobile

but Tmobile have a fair usage policy for 250mb per day :laugh::laugh: I use a lot more then that bro. 250mb wont even last me 2hrs in BC2

[cheesy999]

Have you tried getting real Internet?

[scaminatrix]

Freedom, can you pick up any of those "BTOpenZone" or "BTFon" wireless networks in your area?
With my BT contract, I get unlimited minutes/download to all of the WiFi OpenZone things. I can slide you my login details if you like, see if it works?

[FreedomEclipse]

Have you tried getting real Internet?

Read a few posts back, back to the posts after I said "Goodbye my sweet 24mb download rate"

[FreedomEclipse]

Freedom, can you pick up any of those "BTOpenZone" or "BTFon" wireless networks in your area?
With my BT contract, I get unlimited minutes/download to all of the WiFi OpenZone things. I can slide you my login details if you like, see if it works?

f**king hell mate. If it works. I will set up a regular direct debit to your account for £10 a month. Better then paying £15 a month for this mobile broadband Bullshit

I have a fairly strong signal with those (at least my 10dB antenna is good for something) but the problem is the prices put me off!

[scaminatrix]

f**king hell mate. If it works. I will set up a regular direct debit to your account for £10 a month. Better then paying £15 a month for this mobile broadband Bullshit

I have a fairly strong signal with those (at least my 10dB antenna is good for something) but the problem is the prices put me off!

PM'ing!

[KieranD]

Well i used to borrow the free wifi from McDonalds when i was waiting to get connected. McDonalds is only next door to me btw so the signal was good.

Thats hell of a nice of Scam!

[scaminatrix]

Let's see if this works!

[FreedomEclipse]

Unfortunately I wasnt able to try :laugh: signals too weak to connect. and i cant be arsed to go out there and toy with the antenna right now (as its outside in the garden) with your permission, i'll keep your details and give it a go in the morning when i wake up.

[scaminatrix]

Yea that's all good mate

[FreedomEclipse]

cheers for that anyway. It will be really interesting to see how it works. how much do you pay a month if you dont mind me asking?

[scaminatrix]

£33.90 altogether. Unlimited anytime landline calls and unlimited 19.5Mb Broadband. And the unlimited wifi minutes.
Have a look here (https://www.bt.com/wifi/secure/whatsBTFon.do) to see how the Openzone/Fon thing works.

[FreedomEclipse]

well at least i can take it down the pub with me and use my laptop there.

[scaminatrix]

I can get a BTFon network on my Net PC (Not my one - I could see the network before I got my broadband)

Yup, just logged into it selecting BT Openzone to login.

[cheesy999]

I've won a competition, how good has this week been!, the daily mail shuts down, and I get a free game :)

And yes, I am posting this at nearly 3 in the morning...
EDIT: Actually 3 in the morning now, should probably stop posting till tommorow

[Millennium]

What game did you get?

btw for all UK readers, the sun + greenman gaming free games (http://www.hotukdeals.com/freebies/arma-2-men-war-tower-blox-downloaded-for-free-from-green-man-gaming-withthe-sun/973378) this weekend. Arma II and Men of War stand out. Can't complain for free!

Only prob is the GMG site is pretty slow. But I got all three games took around 1/2 hour of clicking and refreshing!

[cheesy999]

What game did you get?

btw for all UK readers, the sun greenman gaming free games this weekend. Arma II and Men of War stand out. Can't complain for free!

Only prob is the GMG site is pretty slow. But I got all three games took around 1/2 hour of clicking and refreshing!

sounds good, i got fallout new vegas

[LifeOnMars]

What game did you get?

btw for all UK readers, the sun + greenman gaming free games (http://www.hotukdeals.com/freebies/arma-2-men-war-tower-blox-downloaded-for-free-from-green-man-gaming-withthe-sun/973378) this weekend. Arma II and Men of War stand out. Can't complain for free!

Only prob is the GMG site is pretty slow. But I got all three games took around 1/2 hour of clicking and refreshing!

Thanks for posting this, site seems to be under high demand at the moment but I'll just keep refreshing until I get in there. Arma II for free, sweet!!

[FreedomEclipse]

greenman web server must be having a heart attack with the amount of traffic they are picking up

[cheesy999]

just fixed my cable management and cleaned the heat-sinks, now my PC looks really good and runs 5c less

[MightyMission]

does that mean you can only play 'em this weekend ?
demo code kinda thing.
I got arma 2 in a steam chgeapy deal and still havent got past training :laugh:
i thought to get men of war for when my computer is back to normal running cond as opposed to how it is now.

[scaminatrix]

I was gonna get the games but meh can't even be bothered :p It's a Saturday after all!

[Millennium]

The games are free over this weekend and if you get them in time you can keep em forever.

Arma 2 looks pretty hardcore not sure I have time to learn it!

PS scam you can always get them tomorrow. It's sunny now isn't it? :)

[cheesy999]

can any of you guys tell me what the difference between this and this are

http://www.sendit.com/dvd/evangelion-1.01-youre-not-alone/10067103.html

http://www.sendit.com/blu-ray/evangelion-1.11-youre-not-alone-special-edition/10067105.html

is it just the format, (ones DVD and one Blu-ray) or is there other difference

[KieranD]

can any of you guys tell me what the difference between this and this are

http://www.sendit.com/dvd/evangelion-1.01-youre-not-alone/10067103.html

http://www.sendit.com/blu-ray/evangelion-1.11-youre-not-alone-special-edition/10067105.html

is it just the format, (ones DVD and one Blu-ray) or is there other difference

Well i know what region 2 is but what is region B? The blu ray is special edition btw, the dvd is not that much i can tell from just those pages. I bet the blu ray is all remastered and shit too.

I just discovered it will be like £8 to ship per pc case. Tempted to sell both my cases and get a 600T in white. Yeah i know a few posts back i said i was thinking of it.

[WhiteLotus]

Well i know what region 2 is but what is region B? The blu ray is special edition btw, the dvd is not that much i can tell from just those pages. I bet the blu ray is all remastered and shit too.

I just discovered it will be like £8 to ship per pc case. Tempted to sell both my cases and get a 600T in white. Yeah i know a few posts back i said i was thinking of it.

What cases you wanting to sell?

[cheesy999]

Well i know what region 2 is but what is region B? The blu ray is special edition btw, the dvd is not that much i can tell from just those pages. I bet the blu ray is all remastered and shit too.

I just discovered it will be like £8 to ship per pc case. Tempted to sell both my cases and get a 600T in white. Yeah i know a few posts back i said i was thinking of it.

Blu-Rays have different regions to DVD's, i believe there's only 3 vs 5 with DVD's and their done at a software level so many players will play all regions

Is it worth getting the Blu-Ray?, i do like special editions :)

i'm just looking at what to get as they've got all their anime on sale http://www.sendit.com/dvd/offers/manga-s-20th-anniversary.list (never say i don't provide you guys with a lot of cheap anime :laugh:)

[FreedomEclipse]

gonna nab me an SilverStone Raven RV01!!

[WhiteLotus]

Blu-Rays have different regions to DVD's, i believe there's only 3 vs 5 with DVD's and their done at a software level so many players will play all regions

Is it worth getting the Blu-Ray?, i do like special editions :)

i'm just looking at what to get as they've got all their anime on sale http://www.sendit.com/dvd/offers/manga-s-20th-anniversary.list

Obviously assuming you have a Blu-Ray player... do you like watching the Blu-Ray over DVD? If not then go for the DVD.

Personally when it comes to things like special editions, I get them, because I do enjoy watching the extras that you get.

[cheesy999]

Obviously assuming you have a Blu-Ray player... do you like watching the Blu-Ray over DVD? If not then go for the DVD.

Blu-rays are a weird situation for me, due to the way things have ended up being set up, i can either watch DVD's on a 42" plasma with surround sound, or Blu-rays on a 32" LCD (Which actually takes up a lot of my vision as i sit about 1m away from it) with headphones

Do you guys think i should start a petition or something to get a Sky movies anime channel

i like special editions as they look nice normally (i also like to feel i'm supporting the people who made the movie)

[WhiteLotus]

Headphones...

Hell DVD all the way! You can't watch good films/TV with headphones. It's just not cricket.

[scaminatrix]

gonna nab me an SilverStone Raven RV01!!

Niiiice, but the Raven 2's better :p muuuch bigger though from what I've seen...
What appeals to you about the Raven 1, just out of interest?

[cheesy999]

Hell DVD all the way! You can't watch good films/TV with headphones. It's just not cricket.

you'd be surprised, get some good headphones, a decently long cable, and plug it in to the headphone socket , i've re-watched some movies with headphones and you just notice so many things you don't normally (Scott pilgrims a great example, you notice so many background sounds that add to the atmosphere you just don't on a surround system)

that said i'm being pushed towards DVD as its half the price

Also i'm a bit of a headphones person, i went to a party a few weeks ago wearing these massive over-ears, and managed to get control of the music (apparently by wearing your own headphones and listening to your own music you get noticed quite a lot) , AC/DC is so much better then that normal pop rubbish they play

[FreedomEclipse]

Niiiice, but the Raven 2's better :p muuuch bigger though from what I've seen...
What appeals to you about the Raven 1, just out of interest?

Niiiice, but the Raven 2's better :p muuuch bigger though from what I've seen...
What appeals to you about the Raven 1, just out of interest?

#1. Looks like a stealth fighter.

#2. I need an ATX case to work with - it was a squeeze getting these 2 6970's into the Antec 902 and due to the Kuhler 920 sticking out inside the case i cant mount a fan on the side panel so no extra cooling for the graphics card.

#3. my Antec 902 is about 2-3years old (i think)

#4. Im used to the side panel being on the left handside and not the right


----

ive still done a fine job getting everything inside. I should take a few pics though. Cable management isnt as clean as it could be though but its the best i could do with such a case

[scaminatrix]

you'd be surprised, get some good headphones, a decently long cable, and plug it in to the headphone socket , i've re-watched some movies with headphones and you just notice so many things you don't normally

That's a good point - I used to hear things through headphones that I hadn't heard on any other system. Until I got my HarmanKardon HK6100 and Mission speakers - that's when I started hearing all those things on a proper setup.

[cheesy999]

That's a good point - I used to hear things through headphones that I hadn't heard on any other system. Until I got my HarmanKardon HK6100 and Mission speakers - that's when I started hearing all those things on a proper setup.

the biggest problem is the neighbours, we've got a 1000w Panasonic surround system and we can't turn it up too loud as the sub does frequency's so low you just get this massive rumble in other rooms, and the house is semi-detached so...

[scaminatrix]

#4. Im used to the side panel being on the left handside and not the right


I always forget about that one! That was one of my influencing factors on getting the Raven 2 - I made an upside-down case just because I needed the window on the other side!

The Raven 1 does look nice, it's just it looks taller than it is long. I like the kind of new Alienware-y cases, really long but not too tall. I really like the idea of having the PSU separate from the rest of the system though, like you get with the Raven 1.

the biggest problem is the neighbours, we've got a 1000w Panasonic surround system and we can't turn it up too loud as the sub does frequency's so low you just get this massive rumble in other rooms, and the house is semi-detached so...

I live in a block of flats with moany neighbours, but I'm the moaniest one and I don't give a f*ck so my music goes LOUD!!!

[scaminatrix]

Freedom - have you tried that shiznit yet?

[FreedomEclipse]

just about to give it a go!

[scaminatrix]

Shweeeet.

[FreedomEclipse]

Unfortunately no can do im afraid. I cant get a good signal. and ive moved the antenna all over the fricking garden and i cant get decent signal anywhere.

thanks for the thought anyway. and if its alright with you i'll hang on to your details to use it while im having a gin&tonic at wetherspoons!!! rare occasion. but at least i know i can use it while im there.

[scaminatrix]

Yea just makes sure no-one spikes your drink, rapes you and steals my details :laugh:
Try changing the adapter settings on your wi-fi card, maybe it's stuck on b and needs g or whatever. I used to mess about with mine all the time, changing settings and that to get new networks. Nothing to do with how far away they are, just what settings they're using ;)

[NdMk2o1o]

What an absolute crock of shit been trying to get on that green man gaming all day and the furthest I have got is putting ArmaII in my basket which has taken ages btw as I keep getting 504 bad gateway and then I finally get bthere and can't get through to checkout, fu*kkikkkkkkk :banghead:

[InnocentCriminal]

ArmA II multiplayer is free to play anyway. The SP campaigns aren't really worth playing tbh. It's a crack sim if you get a load of mates playing with you.

[KieranD]

What cases you wanting to sell?

NZXT Tempst (original not evo) and possibly my current case Lancool PC K62.
Should be like £8 or thereabout for each one to ship using a collect and deliver courier.

Just been out and bought the new Liverpool Away shirt and i have to say its a smart looking footy shirt. Similar size to my Scotland shirt which is great (size large). Its roastin' here in Glasgow but apparently its raining in Inverness and the golf was postponed.

Contemplated getting Arma II but fuck it if the servers are overloaded.

[FreedomEclipse]

Yea just makes sure no-one spikes your drink, rapes you and steals my details :laugh:
Try changing the adapter settings on your wi-fi card, maybe it's stuck on b and needs g or whatever. I used to mess about with mine all the time, changing settings and that to get new networks. Nothing to do with how far away they are, just what settings they're using ;)

No signal = too far away from AP or somethings blocking the AP (too many walls or big buildings in the way)

I have a Edimax EW-7318USg (http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pl1_idSelect=support.php%3Fpl1_ id%3D1%26mwsp%3D1&pl1_id=1&pd_id=8&button=Go) with a 10dBi antenna attached instead of the standard 4dBi attached to the top of a 7ft metal pole for for better signal and
still nothing. they must have done something to the AP or someones got a house full of microwaves that are on constantly and causing interfering with the signal.

I used to be able to pick up BT Openzone AP perfectly last year.

I even tried to switch to another 10dBi back up antenna i had and still no joy.

no idea what changed

[scaminatrix]

Aw man, well keep checking, all you need is someone to get BT near you and you'll be sorted.

On another note, rip off much?
http://www.porthale.co.uk/products.asp?partno=PW367EA
I know it says workstation, but really? over £1,000?

[FreedomEclipse]

for that money the hardware is just woeful.

I think it could be more a case of geography then anything else. maybe its a rural area and they are the only people for miles that sell computer gear. who knows.

Dell however has much better offers and the tech is more more uptodate

[MightyMission]

its got a floppy drive :laugh:
2011,nearly all mobo's are getting rid of legacy as much as poss,other than OC boards needing a ps2 for k/board..
not even a monitor...

[cheesy999]

2011,nearly all mobo's are getting rid of legacy as much as poss,other than OC boards needing a ps2 for k/board..

i had to fix 2 PC's that didn't have ps/2 yesterday, i only had 1 usb keyboard...

EDIT: We need more musical genres' named like this --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerviolence

[LifeOnMars]

Anyone know if I can add Arma II to my steam?. I've finally got a key but looks like I may have to download "Capsule" in order to play it as it doesn't seem to be recognised on Steam as a valid key?

[cheesy999]

Your going need to use capsule

Isn't it interesting how tech always brakes right before you really need it?

[KieranD]

I find it funny how ps/2 is superior to USB for using keyboards since you only get full n key rollover on a ps/2 connection.

Just watching T in the Park, my sister went again this year. Just not my thing to crowded for me.

[cheesy999]

And 'the girl who leapt through time' is now my official best movie of all time, if I had to watch just one movie in my life, it would be that movie

Does anyone know what the music from it Is called so i can buy it

[KieranD]

Here your best asking anime questions in the anime club. Im not being rude its just you will have your questions answered better over there.

LOL first comment i read when looking up "The Girl Who Leapt Through Time" was "this is one of the only anime that has a good english dub".

[cheesy999]

decided to reinstall vista, and upgrade to 64bit whilst i was at it, whats amazing its that its gone from blank hard drive to now fully functional in about 12 minutes

[FreedomEclipse]

decided to reinstall vista, and upgrade to 64bit whilst i was at it, whats amazing its that its gone from blank hard drive to now fully functional in about 12 minutes

f**k vista. install Windows 7 instead! you'll wish youd done it sooner

[cheesy999]

f**k vista. install Windows 7 instead! you'll wish youd done it sooner

i've already installed windows 7 3 times this week (been doing my work experiance at a computer place)

And i don't see how its that much better, with this fresh install i'm booting in under a minute

[FreedomEclipse]

i've already installed windows 7 3 times this week (been doing my work experiance at a computer place)

And i don't see how its that much better, with this fresh install i'm booting in under a minute

USE IT for a week or two then lets see if you say the same thing again

[cheesy999]

USE IT for a week or two then lets see if you say the same thing again

i've been using a windows 7 laptop for several months...

[FreedomEclipse]

i've been using a windows 7 laptop for several months...

well for me the difference was as clear as day. maybe on a laptop it might not feel as responses because its using slower hardware

[cheesy999]

well for me the difference was as clear as day. maybe on a laptop it might not feel as responses because its using slower hardware
its a core i laptop, i know that windows 7 is faster but it doesn't bring many new features and its about £100

If i could get the full install for ~£50 i would do it but at the moment its double the price and i just can't justify that when the money could be spent on an SSD or a better GFX card

[FreedomEclipse]

Its a retweaked vista under the hood more or less.

check with some of the tech guys where you are doing work experience. see if they are willing to order you a copy of W7 though the company so you dont have to pay VAT.

they could just tell you to piss off or they could do it for you. as you will be there 2-4weeks with no pay. I had to pay for my own lunch and travel expenses traveling from my house into liverpool street every morning. I heard some of my other friends got paid for their work experience. but youre not supposed to.

youre there to learn but shit costs money dawg.

[MightyMission]

also if you are a student or have kids in the house,win 7 ultimate 64 is only £55 +/-
for what its worth i used vista for ages and although its got some nice window dressing,i found it to be far inferior to win7,and one helluva memory hog too.

aren't we due a sync'd avvie change?

[WhiteLotus]

Hey, is there a UK user that is interested in a Kindle?

[cheesy999]

also if you are a student or have kids in the house,win 7 ultimate 64 is only £55 +/-
for what its worth i used vista for ages and although its got some nice window dressing,i found it to be far inferior to win7,and one helluva memory hog too.

aren't we due a sync'd avvie change?

So far i've only found upgrade copies of the education version (or whatever they call them)

they've got upgrades here --> http://www.software4students.co.uk/Windows_7-software.aspx?utm_source=BenchmarkEmail&utm_campaign=June_28th_newsletter&utm_medium=email for £40

Hey, is there a UK user that is interested in a Kindle?

Yes, but unfortunately i have very little money at the moment

Overall the problem is not getting a cheap copy but getting a cheap copy that's NOT upgrade

[Millennium]

I bet vista with 8gb would be faster multitasking then windows 7 with 4gb. I say spend your money on memory if you need it and ABSOLUTELY an ssd if you dont have one. Great upgrade. Better then the memory.

My 2600k import fell through now I'm thinking of getting a 2600k + video card maybe :) Can get a 2500k for £130 on ebay... but why not spend the extra £50 now and get a kick ass top end CPU right? right? :)

I am just gonna see how much CPU i can get a game to use on my current setup :)

[FreedomEclipse]

I bet vista with 8gb would be faster multitasking then windows 7 with 4gb. I say spend your money on memory if you need it and ABSOLUTELY an ssd if you dont have one. Great upgrade. Better then the memory.

My 2600k import fell through now I'm thinking of getting a 2600k + video card maybe :) Can get a 2500k for £130 on ebay... but why not spend the extra £50 now and get a kick ass top end CPU right? right? :)

I am just gonna see how much CPU i can get a game to use on my current setup :)

If youre looking for a good deal on a 2500k and some other gear. go look at LifeOnMars's FS thread. dude has just lost his job and he could do with the cash. so hes selling off some high end gear

[cheesy999]

I bet vista with 8gb would be faster multitasking then windows 7 with 4gb. I say spend your money on memory if you need it and ABSOLUTELY an ssd if you dont have one. Great upgrade. Better then the memory.

My 2600k import fell through now I'm thinking of getting a 2600k + video card maybe :) Can get a 2500k for £130 on ebay... but why not spend the extra £50 now and get a kick ass top end CPU right? right? :)

I am just gonna see how much CPU i can get a game to use on my current setup :)

i can get 90% on BC2

and now i've redone my wiring and cleaned out the dust i don't have to under-clock it to avoid thermal throttling (stock AMD heatsink :mad:) (actual problem is i've got a c3 with a max temp of 71'c but since its an unlock the board makes it throttle at 63'c like the original phenom ii chips)

I'm running vista, it was ok speed but when you activate ready-boost, on a usb stick, magic happens and it goes faster

[Fourstaff]

Off topic again! I am looking for a knife sharpener, what should I get? Preferably something I can get online / easy to get in supermarket.

Looking at this one atm: http://www.amazon.co.uk/AnySharp-Global-Worlds-Sharpener-Classic/dp/B001DXVL6K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1310318369&sr=8-1

Only complaint is that people seem to find it shaving too much metal off the knife. Any thoughts?

[WhiteLotus]

Off topic again! I am looking for a knife sharpener, what should I get? Preferably something I can get online / easy to get in supermarket.

Looking at this one atm: http://www.amazon.co.uk/AnySharp-Global-Worlds-Sharpener-Classic/dp/B001DXVL6K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1310318369&sr=8-1

Only complaint is that people seem to find it shaving too much metal off the knife. Any thoughts?

I have that exact same sharpner, and all I can say is get it. It's fucking amazing.

[cheesy999]

do any of you have a system as balanced as mine?


http://img.techpowerup.org/110710/lol.jpg

[scaminatrix]

No, but I have a low score, if that's any consolation :o Anyone got a lower score?

[cheesy999]

No, but I have a low score, if that's any consolation Anyone got a lower score?

i ended up installing windows 7 on a pc on thursday only to realize i couldn't get networking drivers for it, and it ran incredibly slowly

also i couldn't find the driver for a 'Nvidia riva TNT'?

[FreedomEclipse]

do any of you have a system as balanced as mine?


http://img.techpowerup.org/110710/lol.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n210/FinalFreedomEclipse/WindowsPerfrating.jpg

http://files.sharenator.com/TrollFace_LOLZ-s462x377-151089-580.png

[scaminatrix]

Over at Adobe forums they're using a modified file to show the scores from 1-10 instead of 1-7.9. No-one would give it to me :cry: clicky b*stards

[Millennium]

I wouldn't say it's more balanced, but I'm pretty pleased with my score. My SSD is a really cheap one, but 64gb.

http://img.techpowerup.org/110710/wei.png

For the record specs at the time are:

Processor: i5 750 @ 4ghz
Motherboard: P55m-UD4
Cooling: MUX-120
Memory: Corsair 8gb (4*2gb) 1600mhz @ 9-9-9-24
Video Card: PNY GTS 250 PCI-E 512
Hard Disk: Hitachi 7200rpm 2gb + 64gb Kingston SSD
Optical Drive: Pioneer dvd-rw
CRT/LCD Model: G2420HDBL
Case: Lian Li PC-60
Sound Card: Audigy 2 zs PCI
PSU: Corsair 650 TX
Software: Win 7 64bit

[cheesy999]

there is a big difference between your scores and mine, your using windows 7, i'm using vista, 5.9 is the highest score windows vista will give, therefore where mine looks slower then yours, my computer is actually so fast windows can not rate it properly

[scaminatrix]

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42889&stc=1&d=1310324446

[cheesy999]

but you are wrong scam,

http://static.images.memegenerator.net/Instances400/8/8531/8736399.jpg

[KieranD]

also if you are a student or have kids in the house,win 7 ultimate 64 is only £55 +/-
for what its worth i used vista for ages and although its got some nice window dressing,i found it to be far inferior to win7,and one helluva memory hog too.

aren't we due a sync'd avvie change?

Maybe we could do sync'd up avatars but im going back to something for a few days, bring it up again next weekend and we can think of an idea for one, get Tatty and all the UK'ers involved.

[KieranD]

i ended up installing windows 7 on a pc on thursday only to realize i couldn't get networking drivers for it, and it ran incredibly slowly

also i couldn't find the driver for a 'Nvidia riva TNT'?

If its using an old Nvidia TNT then it should *NOT run windows 7 period, XP would probably be slow. YOU hardly see anything that old paired with anything that isnt as old as it is.

[cheesy999]

Ot but yet again Im watching a movie

And Summer wars is a fantasticly funny movie

'uncle, what you looking at'

'ladies with big boobs

'what was your job in america'

'ninja'

'Yeah, really?:cry:

^accidentally posted that In the bc2 clubhouse

[KieranD]

If you didn't know, you can hit edit and ninja delete posts but mods and admins can see deleted and edited posts.

[cheesy999]

It wasnt a ninja delete it took me half n hour to notice, and why would theybcare anyway, its clear i didnt post It there delibratley

Also

'is that a defense force motto'

'not really I just lifted It from seven sumarai'

[KieranD]

Well for a start it saves a mod coming deleting it, common curtsey i guess. Just seemed like you never knew about the delete feature, which might come in handy sometime.

[cheesy999]

No, I just edited it out

Thought after half an hour it would.of been noticed by too.may people

[KieranD]

No, I just edited it out

Thought after half an hour it would.of been noticed by too.may people

Okay cool man.

[cheesy999]

I do have a problem now, since I've watched both of my movies that means all Ive got to watch for this week is six episodes of guyver :(

[scaminatrix]

Dammit I need £115! Just been offered an MSI Twin Frozr II - why does payday have to take so long? :cry:

[cheesy999]

I see i'm not the only one with money problems

[scaminatrix]

No you're certaily not lol ain't had a sniff of work in the last coupla weeks. South East is craaaap

[cheesy999]

You live about 40 miles away from me...

I have a lack of money as you don't get paid for work experience

[scaminatrix]

Still South East of the country :p
40 miles? Ashford and Canterbury are less than 20 miles from me; 40 miles is past Maidstone - Gillingham-ish. Bugger all money generated down here, unless you're Roger De Haan lol

[FreedomEclipse]

I wished i purchased a sapphire card instead....



[ 7/10/2011 1:46:35 AM] Good morning. I just bought two of your 6970s last week (i will register both of them after this) and after reading up on the warranty it would seem that you void warranty for people who want to put a 3rd party cooler on their card or at least to let you know before any changes are made so you can update the warranty status. as it stands, I only wish to replace the thermal paste on the graphics card with some Arctic MX-4. I have carried out this process many times before on my older cards. so i just wanted to double check with you first before i do anything as i don`t want to void the warranty just after getting the 2 cards. thanks

[JAMES 7/11/2011 10:06:08 AM] Hi, thanks for your message, unfortunately, removing the fan will almost certrainly void the warranty held by your reseller, even if this is temporary, so we would not recommend doing so. please can you register the products using the correct serial number (e.g. I4H917634). thank you, James.



time to add these cards to my FS thread. Im not happy with warranty thats so restrictive....

oh and my response to them...

thanks,

Well, in that case, I will be returning both of these of these cards a swapping them for another brand. I understand the reasoning behind your restrictive warranty. as you don't want unnecessary RMA's but not allowing me to apply new thermal paste really takes the biscuit. The cards run very hot and MX-4 could really help lower the temperatures a little more.

I wont be registering my cards as i will be returning them straight away.

Good day to you sir!

[FreedomEclipse]

^Totally not a troll

[InnocentCriminal]

</sarcasm>Great</sarcasm> use of the English language there Freedom.

[scaminatrix]

Damn Freedom, I thought XFX were the ones who allowed you to do that, as long as you tell them? Or have I got it very wrong?

[FreedomEclipse]

Damn Freedom, I thought XFX were the ones who allowed you to do that, as long as you tell them? Or have I got it very wrong?

thats how its supposed to work. and thats what i read in forums. so I know people have contacted XFX before hand to keep them updated on whats their going to be done to their cards. and XFX have given them the go ahead to do it as they need to log it in their RMA database.

but this is stupid. as i did mention that i have done the same thing countless numbers of times on older cards. and lets face it, If i was a real noob with no technical knowledge what so ever i probably wouldnt even known what the fuck MX-4 was or what thermal paste does or how beneficial thermal paste is to cooling.

They were once on the side of the enthusiast. but this is taking it too far. I think they got sick of dealing with peoples RMA's. waiting for a response from SCAN on the matter.

Just told them I used the card to browse the net and run a few benchmarks but i wasnt 100% satisfied with the product and wish to return them both. (well within my rights under the distance selling regulations) then I'll go to ebuyer and pick up some Sapphire or HiS cards. ebuyer have a better stocked selection of 6970s then SCAN for some reason.

[FreedomEclipse]

and damn it ive just been shot down by SCAN

If the cards have been installed and used we would be unable to accept them back for a refund.

Due to the sensitive nature of IT equipment we cannot accept the return of any item that has had the manufacturer official seal opened.

Regards,

Michael W
Scan Computers

Micheal W... thats the dude who gave me bad RMA service the last time round.

Oh well. Nevermind, The Returns dept manager is also a rep on Bit-tech. I'll go take my claim directly with him as i know Mr. Micheal W. here will stonewall me If i tried to persist with my claim.

[Millennium]

In the spirit of posting bargains (to cheer Freedom up if nothing else!) here is another one.

Assassins Creed 2 for £2.50 (http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-AC2/assassins-creed-2) digital download. UK only.

Gotta have some good games for all that kickass hardware, right?

[scaminatrix]

Bunch of bar stewards! I still got like a year and a half warranty before I can change the paste on my 5770. Don't want to do it yet because the fan's been (quietly) buzzing for about a year.

My 5770 @ 960/1440 doesn't go over 65 deg.c (with my extra heatsinks all over the card) - I'm addicted to low temps. I won't let any componenet in my rig go over 65. (Gammy un-unlockable) CPU seems to be convinced it's only 29 deg.c!! It won't move even after a few hours of gaming!!

Shame there's no Vapor-X/Toxic version of the 6970 - the Vapor-X's run nice and cool generaly - would you consider one of them?

[FreedomEclipse]

If the price was right i would. usually cards with Vapor X or Toxic coolers charge a small price premium.

these 6970s are supposed to have Vapor chamber cooling anyway but that still doesnt stop them from hitting 81'c in BC2.

Ive got 3 bloody years to wait for warranty to end before i can start fiddling with the card. if SCAN wont accept them back then I'll try to get rid of them along with my 5850s and go with a sapphire card instead

[scaminatrix]

Yea the Vapor's are a little bit more expensive AFAIK. I would have had one off you, but I need an nvidia card for my vid editing rig. Gonna be the first nvidia card I've actually bought for myself :laugh:
You might have to ebay them to get a proper price, I can't see them going for top dollar on here.

[FreedomEclipse]

yeah, Im gonna need to throw the 2 5850s up on Ebay too i thinks. not too much traffic here.

I could put them up on gumtree too and see if i can get anyone local to take them off me. but all im gonna get is a bunch of polish people calling me up and trying to lowball me.

[scaminatrix]

Pffft I've had decent stuff up on gumtree for aaaages and didn't even get a sniff of interest. It's crap on there man, less traffic than here :laugh:
I just bought a videocamera off the bay - I was supposed to buying a broken one to fix my little brother's, but ended up buying a semi-broken one :p I know what's wrong with this one so easy fix!!

The seller sold it to me straight instead of all the bidding crap, I'm just waiting for her to take down the listing now.
Here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150628415903&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123)

[MightyMission]

bloody hell that looks like it could just be the retention mechanism!
hope you got some tiny little screwdrivers sir!

[Bo$$]

I pulled the trigger on an MSI GTX570, it is the one most expensive thing i have ever bought!

[FreedomEclipse]

Pffft I've had decent stuff up on gumtree for aaaages and didn't even get a sniff of interest. It's crap on there man, less traffic than here :laugh:
I just bought a videocamera off the bay - I was supposed to buying a broken one to fix my little brother's, but ended up buying a semi-broken one :p I know what's wrong with this one so easy fix!!

The seller sold it to me straight instead of all the bidding crap, I'm just waiting for her to take down the listing now.
Here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150628415903&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123)

I have had tonnes of interest when selling my Xonar D2X and the first time i tried to sell my 5850 on there. Its just full of foreign people trying to get a cheap deal.

[scaminatrix]

bloody hell that looks like it could just be the retention mechanism!
hope you got some tiny little screwdrivers sir!

Yea I got all the tools, I've done one of these before, slightly different model but same series. I've fixed countless amounts of phones and digicam's over the years and I got tiny little fingers lol The worst bit about these is that the ribbon connectors are really hard to break when you're pulling them out of the boards; I've killed a few cameras like that :o

I have had tonnes of interest when selling my Xonar D2X and the first time i tried to sell my 5850 on there. Its just full of foreign people trying to get a cheap deal.

Aah, I never had anything that high value on there - £50 mobo and £60 CPU.

[FreedomEclipse]

The 5850s are up on there anyway. hopefully i should have them both off my hands in about a week

[MightyMission]

I was thinking about gpu pricing when i saw an radeon 2900x at a bootsale yesterday,it prolly retailed at £150+ at some point,now it was on offer for £10

yet when you look at what todays £150 gets you in terms of 3d performance and no blockies and jaggies etc,it doesnt seem so bad,i wonder what £150 does in terms of performance in another 5 years.
my 470s were 240 (just released)and 180 (6 months later) brand new :eek:
though i got not alot of shekels right now,i am glad i got them when i did.

Fixing my n97 was a mare scam,the ribbon cables are so tiny i had to use tweezers to pull them out,i've not tried cameras but some lappies seem to be a million parts waiting to explode when you get that last screw out.

[FreedomEclipse]

Going Fishing@gumtree (http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/two-overclocked-5850s-to-go/83879963) ;)

[MightyMission]

no way!
i sold an 512mb x1900 xtx for 13 on ebay a couple months ago lol
pretty card though,all translucent red and stuff.
£100!!!
is huskie not here any more? i thought he was just on holidays or something

[FreedomEclipse]

Yup, it was the 512MB aswell. I don't deal with ab_ anymore, for obvious reasons.
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145508

Na not on holiday, he done one back home.

so huskie is no longer coming back to the UK???

[MightyMission]

My word.
i thought they were _just reasonable_ cards five years ago,but i guess huskie had his reasons for going ahead with it.bad form on abu mentals behalf to pull a stunt like that though

[scaminatrix]

so huskie is no longer coming back to the UK???

No, he didn't make any mention of coming back. Just seemed sad at having to go. Obviously, there's only so much emotion that can be conveyed through a text message though :o shame.