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CarolinaKSU
Aug 20, 2008, 12:11 AM
Well, I have been poking around with my RAID0 setup lately and was considering getting a hardware controller for my two 750gb Samsung F1's. I have an EVGA 680i board that is great and all, but as everyone knows onboard software RAID controllers arent really RAID afterall and especially on 680i boards, it can be a little buggy at times. Also, NCQ doesn't even work with my 680i board, i get write errors on large files :(

So, can anyone recommend a decent hardware controller that wont break the bank?

AsRock
Aug 20, 2008, 12:53 AM
I used to have a Adaptec 2940UA going back some years ago though as it was paired with some SCSI Q Fireballs lol. It was dam good for then but dam expensive. Maybe they sell a good SATA II controller.

The Adaptec did me good for years and there support back then was top notch, All though there's probably a cheaper ones around these days.

Have a bad feeling though it be way to expensive to go the Adaptec way so hopefully some one knows of another company that is as good or better even.

TIGR
Aug 20, 2008, 01:04 AM
I prefer Areca 1220+ controllers for my high-end SATA RAID builds, but that's probably overkill for you. What is your price range?

CarolinaKSU
Aug 20, 2008, 01:35 AM
I prefer Areca 1220+ controllers for my high-end SATA RAID builds, but that's probably overkill for you. What is your price range?

$50-100? I honestly dont really hear much of people buying hardware RAID controllers since most people are content with their onboard software raid. I would rather get something to take pressure off of my CPU and have a true raid that isn't buggy and I dont think running out and buying a new mobo will solve those problems lol

AsRock
Aug 20, 2008, 01:40 AM
$50-100? I honestly dont really hear much of people buying hardware RAID controllers since most people are content with their onboard software raid. I would rather get something to take pressure off of my CPU and have a true raid that isn't buggy and I dont think running out and buying a new mobo will solve those problems lol

My onboard raid has been just fine no issue's at all. Sure not the best and all but i know i would buy a kick ass mobo with a good raid controller before spending $300++++ on a raid card.

CarolinaKSU
Aug 20, 2008, 01:46 AM
well I came across this one, it gets good reviews on newegg at least, but a bit pricey.

areca ARC-1200 PCI Express SATA Controller Card RAID 0/1 JBOD - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816151031

edit: and here is a cheaper one, but on a PCI slot, not PCIe

SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009

any thoughts on these?

AsRock
Aug 20, 2008, 01:48 AM
well I came across this one, it gets good reviews on newegg at least, but a bit pricey.

areca ARC-1200 PCI Express SATA Controller Card RAID 0/1 JBOD - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816151031


Yeah was looking at that one and thought what if you want to add another HDD ?..

CarolinaKSU
Aug 20, 2008, 01:52 AM
Yeah was looking at that one and thought what if you want to add another HDD ?..

Yeah I thought that too, but once you get into the multi-port cards the price goes up through the roof!

TIGR
Aug 20, 2008, 01:59 AM
That ARC-1200 will give you great performance. AsRock's point about future expandability is why I like to use ARC-1220+ controllers (plus their cache). But it's a big step up in price. I unfortunately don't know much about the Supermicro unit.

I should mention my personal preference for low-cost RAID is Intel Matrix RAID integrated into ICH*R south bridge motherboards. ICH10R especially impresses me and it's what I use for my own system, which in a four-drive RAID 0 configuration (with Hitachi 1TB Ultrastars) gives 329MB/sec average read throughput and 8.8ms access time. Its stability and usability have been stupendous, and I like being able to use two different types of RAID arrays on the same drives.

But you already have your motherboard, so I think the ARC-1200 would be a good choice. Maybe someone else can chime in on the Supermicro.

Hope it helps! :)

KBD
Aug 20, 2008, 02:00 AM
edit: and here is a cheaper one, but on a PCI slot, not PCIe

SUPERMICRO AOC-SAT2-MV8 64-bit PCI-X133MHz SATA Controller Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009

any thoughts on these?

i dont think this one will work for you. its PCI-X, not PCI, i doubt you mobo has the right port. I'd consider Areca, good brand name, relatively inexpensive, good reviews. But do some more looking around before making the final decision.

CarolinaKSU
Aug 20, 2008, 02:45 AM
i dont think this one will work for you. its PCI-X, not PCI, i doubt you mobo has the right port. I'd consider Areca, good brand name, relatively inexpensive, good reviews. But do some more looking around before making the final decision.

Ah, I didn't even notice that.. So this would only work on a server motherboard im assuming?

TIGR
Aug 20, 2008, 03:04 AM
Pretty much.

DanTheBanjoman
Aug 20, 2008, 12:09 PM
i dont think this one will work for you. its PCI-X, not PCI, i doubt you mobo has the right port.

Most PCI-X cards work fine in PCI slots, though since todays disks can do 50-60MB/s easily the PCI bus is a huge bottleneck.

btarunr
Aug 20, 2008, 12:26 PM
Since those are just two drives you're using I don't feel it's worth investing 100s of $$ on a native-processing RAID card, you would much rather expand the RAID 0 with one or more drives and retain the SB RAID controller. The cards that seem "affordable" (those ones with just a bare Promise/Silicon Logic/Marvell chip) don't really come with native processing RAID controllers, they would still pose CPU overhead as your SB-embedded controller, not worth it either.

If you still need a recommendation (that should genuinely boost performance), here's my pick: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816115026 That's a "Hardware controller" (read: Native processing) that doesn't (quite) break the bank.

Scrizz
Aug 20, 2008, 01:23 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816115050

that looks cool

KBD
Aug 20, 2008, 03:24 PM
Most PCI-X cards work fine in PCI slots, though since todays disks can do 50-60MB/s easily the PCI bus is a huge bottleneck.

thanks for clearing that up Dan. i wasnt sure about that myself, thats why i said "i think". I was looking at this PCI-X card and a PCI card to see if the interface that attaches to the mobo is the same, it was a little different so thats what led me to beleive that it wouldnt work. PCI interface is def a bottleneck thats why i was thinking that getting a card like that Areca is a better choice.