Best this generation games?

[AMDCam]

Hey, I want to tell you guys that F.E.A.R. is a masterpiece, a work of art, flawless in every way. I mean graphics, impossibly good. physics, crazy realistic. AI, unbelievable. Gameplay, as good as Halo 1. Fear factor, literally pure genius. How is it possible to catch a guy who's seen every type of scary game, movie, show, house, and halloween place, off guard every single time something happens? Geniuses, that's all, the creators are geniuses. And ripping people's body parts off REALISTICALLY?!?! Shooting people and watching them die like it's a cinematic but it's real gameplay? Watching AI and somehow losing track of where they are? All those things I have never seen done even remotely well in a game before, and F.E.A.R. pulled them all off perfectly, or better. Other than Earthbound on the SNES, F.E.A.R. is my favorite game of ALL time.

So my question is, what is YOUR favorite this generation game? As in, ultra-realistic graphics type games (Doom 3, Quake 4, Farcry, FEAR, Half Life 2, many less popular games, etc.). Thanks guys

[wazzledoozle]

Half Life 2 and Far Cry are my favorite games of all time. Each one having its different advantages, I couldnt decide between them.

Second would be Desert Combat mod for BF1942. Although I dont play it anymore, it basically perfected the concept of a modern warfare MOFPS (massive online fps)

Doom 3 doesnt even come in my top 20.

FEAR seems cool.. but it has such a crappily running engine I dont think its worth trying to run on my comp.

[Anarion]

all of'em are good.

[gygabite]

Certainly FEAR is the best game of the year although it lags a bit.
(the atmosphere is great).
The next would be Fable The Lost Chapters
3rd is Gene Troopers
(nobody knows this genious game although it has a grav-gun like weapon and a physics engine like hl2)
4th is UT2004
The Far Cry mod RALLY PSYCHOS is one of my favourite multiplayer mods

[spectre440]

three words:

Rome: Total War.

period.

best game EVER, IMO.

[zOaib]

UT2004 ---------> WHICH will be again Dominated with the upcomming UT2007
Bf1942 all expanisions
BF2 + special forces
Need for Speed Most Wanted (amazing graphics) video cards with HDR and smarshader 3.0 give this game the edge.
F.E.A.R
PAINKILLER

[trog100]

hard to find a game that really stands out..

fear.. very clever AI.. too much running around lost in boring office type buildings..

painkiller.. i like that cos it was just mindless killing hords of brainless enemies.. he he

half-life.. very good but nothng special..

doom 3.. i thought it was crap but quite liked it when i got into it.. too much inside room stuff but they were more interesting "rooms" than the fear inside room stuff.. and it makes u jump at times..

quake 4.. pretty.. but again to much inside room stuff.. just another "game"..

flat out.. brillaint.. great fun.. dont take itself too seriously..

pariah.. lots of outside scenes kinda reminded me of halo.. i did play it all the way thru.. grfx so so.. but it seems the pretties and outside scenarios dont go together.. the machines cant handle both..

contract jack.. old looking but good fun.. i played that one all the way thru.. strangely enough fear reminded me of contract jack with pretty grfx..

come to the conclusion that todays pretty grfx isnt worth the very old return to "inside room " games like they used to be several years ago when the software exceeded the hardware.. in some way todays games have taken a backward step..

older games that stood out.. stick in my memory.. giants citizen kabuto and armed and dangerous by the same people.. nothing has had the impact that the original quake did thow.. he he he

oh.. forgot one.. the original need for speed played on a voodo i grfx card.. that had an impact he he he

trog

[Anarion]

Certainly FEAR is the best game of the year although it lags a bit.


yep


The next would be Fable The Lost Chapters


naaahhh, it was somekinda slow i woukd say ...

[Anarion]

come to the conclusion that todays pretty grfx isnt worth the very old return to "inside room " games like they used to be several years ago when the software exceeded the hardware.. in some way todays games have taken a backward step..






i don't think so ...:rolleyes:

[Solaris17]

ut2004
Farcry(best #$% game ever)
Rome total war.
guildwars.

[trog100]

changed my mind about the best current game.. he he he..

call of duty 2.. no roaming aound lost just to pad the game out.. no hunting for silly health packs or ammo.. no having to poke in every corner/box or whatever in every room in case u miss something.. regular auto saves.. loads of AI buddies.. beats the hell out of going thru single player games all on your own.. loads of outside activity.. nice grafix.. the game pretty well has everything..

kinda shame that it has to be a WWII type game for all the extra AI helper dudes (mates) to appear.. it stirkes me that all FPSs should have AI buddies as the norm.. fear.. doom 3.. quake 4.. it also makes me wonder just why they dont have em..

in the doom 3 film they had a "team".. its funny how they dont feel the same about the actual games.. all good shooters should have a team.. he he he.. if a team works in a bloody film it would do the same in a game..

okay they dont actually help that much and they do sometimes get in the way.. but the game is a lot more entertaining with em than without em..

just played cod2 thru and had forgotten just how good the first one was..

trog

[65tweet]

Teams are prety cool, made HL2 more interesting for me. It was getting booring quick. It's always nice to have somebody around to take a bullet fo you too :D .

[AMDCam]

Oh yeah, teamplay makes a game for me. I never play a game after I beat it until Halo, because the Co-op in that is great. I wish Doom3 was co-op (on Xbox at least). I didn't like HL2 for AI teams, it was pretty primitive like it has been for the past 10 years, but now people get out of the way. AI for teamplay is really great in Quake 4 and FEAR (at least the enemies work together), that's the next-gen teamplay and it's great.

[trog100]

yep in fear the enemy has good teamplay.. cant fault it for that.. i spose its just lazyness on the game writers part.. wwii type games kinda have to have fellow solders so we get em.. elsewhere we dont..

the other reason i think is the little room/corridor factor thats all too prominent in some of these later games.. .. there aint room for more than just u and few enemies..

anyways.. having just played painkiller.. halflife.. contract jack.. pariah.. quake 4.. fear.. doom 3.. cod2.. i have run out of shooters.. he he he..

any none multiplayer recommendations..???

trog

[bikr692002]

why hasnt anyone mentiond BF:2

[AMDCam]

I think a lot of people have, or maybe they did in the "best since 2000" thread.

Also, about the military shooters, that's why I don't play them anymore, because first off they're waaaay too repetitive, I mean how many theatres and missions do we need before they stop WWII shooters?? Same weapons, same enemies, same environments, same vehicles, same effects, and worst of all, same old AI in EVERY game. Why doesn't AI in those games actually fire when there's a target, or take cover quick enough, or actually take cover, or maybe run when they should. I'm not saying WWII shooters are bad games, if I did I'd be wrong because millions of copies are still being sold. It's just my personal opinion, I'd have a different one if one developer could just break ground and pop out some Quake 4-like AI, then it'd be a whole other ballgame. Just had to mention.

[65tweet]

I'm thinking of getting COD2 now. How good is the AI? I thought it was just like every other game out there so I haven't given it a look. I have more games with stupid bots than I'd care to count.

[trog100]

i think the cod2 AI is okay.. bit hard to judge reaally.. cos in some ways i like hordes of mindless zombie types to shoot the crap out of.. i loved painkiller and they were about as mindless as u can get..

the fear ai is the best there is i think.. about as human like as i have seen.. they even run off at times.. and refuse to come and get u when told to.. "f-ck off i aint going in there hes just wiped out an entire squad" is often heard.. he he

i played cod1.. thought it very good.. tried the add-on pack thought it was just more of the same but far too hard.. never bothered to finish it.. i started cod2 with "more of the same" kinda thoughts but soon got into the game its that good.. in spite of it being wwii.. he he..

in retropsect i should have played cod2 at a harder level.. it was far to easy to rush in quake style dance around poke em in the belly with your machine gun and kill a whole bunch in one go.. the game dosnt have a shotgun.. but at close range the machine guns behave very much like the classic shotguns.. pretty much instant enemy death.. not realistic in the slightest but good fun.. if u are more into simulations it needs playing on the harder levels.. on the level i played cod2 on its a lot easier than cod1 and the auto saves are far more frequent.. bit more arcade like.. which i personally like.. cant be doing with games that call themselves "simulations"..

trog

[65tweet]

The AI in FEAR is pretty good and got better towards the end. I wish they were that smart and tough throughout the whole game. They seem to talk too much though. You knew they were up ahead or if they wern't all dead because they always had something to say. Way better than older games though. I dont think any of them just stood there and let me kill them. Far Cry was good too. If you shot at one they all came after your ass:rockout: .

[AMDCam]

Hell yeah, FEAR AI is just plain crazy. Hopefully every new game will build off that engine, and hopefully everyone will build off and improve the graphics engine too. There's gonna be a whole new element to games when they start getting as human as FEAR has gotten.

[trog100]

far cry stood out.. still does in some ways.. i had problems with the long periods tween autosaves thow.. it got a bit boring having to go so far back and do it all over again several with some of the harder bits.. i though all games should have the quick save option..

cod2 has it about right thow.. no quick saves but frequent autosaves.. i kinda like that.. cod2 breaks the molds in several ways.. no health backs u just need to hunker down and u auto recover.. quick and often auto saves.. overall i recon they got it about right..

the biggest problem i had with fear was too much roaming around lost looking for the next door out of a few dozen identical doors to go thru.. he he.. same with doom 3.. too much going round in circles totally lost.. praps its just me has a lousy sense of game directiion.. dunno..

gonna have a go at seriouse sam 2 and see what i recon..

trog

[Anarion]

too much going round in circles totally lost.. praps its just me has a lousy sense of game directiion.. dunno..

gonna have a go at seriouse sam 2 and see what i recon..

trog

:) :laugh:

[trog100]

well i have "seriouse".. he he.. kinda reminds me of giants citizens kabuto grfx wise and painkiller with cartoon cutesies gameplay wise.. i started off on normal hardness and went back to "casual gamer" level.. should that tell me something..???

hard to get lost in it thow.. he he he..

trog

[AMDCam]

I have to say, FEAR is really annoying with those hard-to-find hard-to-reach areas. I'm only on about the 7th mission and I've been stuck for about half as long as I've played the game, and at least once a mission.

[trog100]

i recon we need a thread about what we dont like in games.. he he..

too much going round in circles lost in repetitive (identical ?) scenery just to pad the game out and make it play longer would come top of my list..

fear does get better once u move out of those boring office blocks.. u dont get lost and have to go round in circle for half an hour quite so often...

trog

[internal]

Tough call.

I think FarCry stands out for me the most and it's not so much that it's the BEST game.

Expectations are EVERYTHING in life and when you have a game that comes out of NO WHERE and drops your jaw like it STILL does today on some parts of the game it really leaves an impression.

In the end the thing that impressed me the most was the AI. It wasn't until the recent FEAR where we've had another game even compare. Who know's even if the FEAR AI could even hang in the large outdoor environments FarCry has.

The time in which it was release plays a part. This was during the time of waiting for big games like Hl2, Doom3, Quake4 and many others. Again to just pop out of no where and deliver a knockout.

HL2 and FEAR Will stand out but since I'm a recent sim racer also, GT Legends (just came out) will always stand out but those old school racers would say that Grand Prix Legends could be considered one of the most successful PC AND multiplayer PC games even STILL to this day.

[AMDCam]

I thought Farcry had some horrible cutscenes so the story kind of sucked. I mean a guy's lost on an island and ARMIES come after one man, and they keep sending reinforcements on him insteading of just nuking the island? not too easy to swallow, but I haven't played it all the way through. The really horrible part though, was the voice acting sucked bad, and just as bad were those cheap real-human made movements that were too exaggerated in the cutscenes to look believable along with the voice acting. I think gameplay was fun, and it was beautiful, so yeah, I guess without the story, it's a great game.

[josechow]

I'd have to say that COD2 is my new favorite.

But the the only game I really enjoyed playing was Half Life: Day of Defeat... maybe if I started begging, I can get DoD:Source soon. lol.

[AMDCam]

oh hell yeah dude, DOD is the GREAT of online games, nothing better. DOD: Source really isn't what I hoped for, but it definitely is better in some ways. I got it for christmas, and I love the graphics and physics and weapons, but there are some annoying small features. I don't know though, I think I would get it again if I had to.

[Red.Sky]

starcraft!!! (its all i can play on my laptop)

[KennyT772]

man starcraft is the stuff man..i got over 60 hours in the past 7 days..check xfire

[AMDCam]

Yeah but that's not this-gen is it? I've never played it but I thought it was like C&C, and about as old (like 1997 or something). But thanks for the comment

[trog100]

seriouse sam 2 aint that bad.. a total crazy blast em up shooter.. quite amusing.. i have only cheated (god mode) once so far.. the giants level.. i killed the end of level giant wasp meanie for real but couldnt get thru that bloody hollow tree trunk at the start of the level...

he he he..

trog

[65tweet]

Lets no forget about mods. That's what kept BF1942 interesting. Desert combat still kicks ass. BF2 is getting some interesting mods now too, I want an A-10 warthog:rockout:. I may try some of the HL2 mods next to see what they are about. What does that mean though when you find the mod more fun than the game?

[wazzledoozle]

Lets no forget about mods. That's what kept BF1942 interesting. Desert combat still kicks ass. BF2 is getting some interesting mods now too, I want an A-10 warthog:rockout:. I may try some of the HL2 mods next to see what they are about. What does that mean though when you find the mod more fun than the game?
Desert Combat is coming out for BF2-
www.desert-conflict.org

EA/Dice bought out the original creators of Desert Combat to prevent it from getting big and hurting BF2 sales.

[65tweet]

I've seen they have a CTF version out but I'll wait a little longer till it looks more interesting.

There's an allied intent mod that looks good.
http://planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/View.php?view=BF2Mods.Detail&id=83
I'll try it when I'm not going over my download limit.

I've played the mercenaries mod and that was pretty cool. Made the game move faster.

[BiGShiRley]

Well of the new gen games i would have to say css as i play that the most then cod2 awsome must buy game, bf2 very good if u have a top end machine. Rome total war is awsome aswell if u just wanna chill out as for fear i need to get round to that yet to busy.

Old school games that i love are red alert 2 / yuri's revenge, populous was very good, age of empires also top game from its time i could go on but i dont wanna bore yas. :-)

[DanTheBanjoman]

Yeah but that's not this-gen is it? I've never played it but I thought it was like C&C, and about as old (like 1997 or something). But thanks for the comment

It's not like C&C at all, they're both RTS that's all. Starcraft is just the game of all games, perfect balance, countless strategies, no obsolete units at all, nothing overpowered etc. And better yet, it's fun.

Keny/red.sky, if you guys like you can contact me, you can play with djb, wazzle and myself some time. We suck balls though we enjoy ourselves :P

[zAAm]

It's not like C&C at all, they're both RTS that's all. Starcraft is just the game of all games, perfect balance, countless strategies, no obsolete units at all, nothing overpowered etc. And better yet, it's fun.

I concur Dan! Starcraft IS the best, most balanced, most fun game ever...

[AMDCam]

Yeah, well I wasn't saying the details, I meant it was really the same type of game as the old C&C games (same graphics, same gameplay, same era, etc)

[Polaris573]

I have a question AMDCam. You say you're going to upgrade you're video card to a 7800. Are most high-end laptops with video cards upgradeable? Where do you buy video cards for laptops? I've never seen one.

[AMDCam]

My 9300 has the newest generation XPS motherboard in it (it just uses last-gen hardware and no fancy case mods or lights so it's cheaper), and the new XPS comes with either a 6800 Ultra or a 7800GTX, and if you get a 6800 Ultra in there you can upgrade to the 7800GTX, which means the same for my 9300. So if the laptop has an available graphics card for your motherboard (or just model laptop) you might be able to upgrade the graphics card like mine, but only with the specific card built for that laptop. The 9300 is a guarantee, and I assume there are other manufacturers out there that do the same thing. But most laptops won't let you.