The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[Kantastic]

well, i dont care if you are 'masters' or not. you had patience with me, taught me enough to speed up my machine a bit and keep it stable. above all else, you made me feel welcome and not like a useless pain in the butt who knew nothing (even tho' it was true!! lol). i thank you all for that and definitely salute you!!

Stick around TPU, almost all of us are like that.
We have to be or erocker and Paulieg whips us.

[Chicken Patty]

lol, I consider myself somewhat of a master just of a different style. I know I'm not on Chew's level when it comes to super hardcore style...I'm too much of a wimp to go through the training he's been through :o

That's why I've got my own style with the low/stock voltage type of clocking. As far as super max clocks are concerned....I wouldn't even allow my name to be mentioned in the same sentence as Chew. :rockout:

Kei

You are a master in my eye Kei :respect:

It goes back to this thread bro :toast:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=58746

Those screenshots on the first post made my eyes watery :cry:

my max AIR validation with 1.55V :rockout:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/883201.png
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=883201

:rockout: holy crap that's freakin' awesome!

[Velvet Wafer]

my max AIR validation with 1.55V :rockout:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/883201.png
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=883201

ow^^
that hurts right there, where i build a giant waterloop, to achieve even 4.2:laugh:
really nice chip, and really nice OC too ;)

kei, i dont regard myself as master. i just failed at much stuff, so i most times knew, where to search for errors:laugh:

[Chicken Patty]

ow^^
that hurts right there, where i build a giant waterloop, to achieve even 4.2:laugh:
really nice chip, and really nice OC too ;)

kei, i dont regard myself as master. i just failed at much stuff, so i most times knew, where to search for errors:laugh:

masters once sucked at what they did, remember that :roll:

[eidairaman1]

as long as your usual load isnt too high, and youre absolutely stable, even after hours of computing, gaming,browsing, surfing.... it doesnt really matters, if idle is 30 degrees or 40 degrees. as long as your idle doesnt pass 50, everything should be fine;) no worries.:D

id be more concerned about Motherboard temperatures (System Temp) than the CPU.

Speaking of which Chicken Patty who is the Commander of Cap'N Crunch?


General Mills.

[Velvet Wafer]

id be more concerned about Motherboard temperatures (System Temp) than the CPU.

Speaking of which Chicken Patty who is the Commander of Cap'N Crunch?


General Mills.

i never had temperature problems on 790gx boards, not even on the biostar.;)

[Kei]

Sooo....I want something new to play with (satisfy my curiosity)......does anybody in here wanna buy a lapped Xigmatek HDT S-1283? :)

$20 if you're in the US I might even ship it for free. :D

Kei

[crazyeyesreaper]

hmm um how about we reverse the roles XD ill send u 4gigs DDR2 for a full am3 setup :roll:

[sinar]

I got 0944FPMW here with single stage. I

@ -12C in bios
ACC auto
Unleashed mode enabled

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6084/screenshot481.jpg

[KieranD]

Nice OC Sinar, the unleash mode on my ASUS makes my board crash instantly i still dotn know what it actually does.

I thought it unlocked a core or something.

[Assassin48]

I got 0944FPMW here with single stage. I

@ -12C in bios
ACC auto
Unleashed mode enabled

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6084/screenshot481.jpg

Whats the voltage in bios ?

[sinar]

Whats the voltage in bios ?1.6 Vcore

[Kei]

Sooo....I want something new to play with (satisfy my curiosity)......does anybody in here wanna buy a lapped Xigmatek HDT S-1283? :)

$20 if you're in the US I might even ship it for free. :D

Kei

Consider it sold :rockout:

Forgot to mention that I'm gonna attatch the Thermaltake fan 120mm fan that I've got which is rated for something like 70cfm+ (more than the original Xigy fan). I can't let go of my benching 110cfm fan though, gotta keep something for whenever I get that occasional itch to see what 4Ghz feels like again. :rockout:

Kei

[Kei]

OH!

@ Sinar.....HOLY ****!!! :twitch: That's an amazing clock man, great job!

Kei

[TheMailMan78]

I have a new cooler coming in. When I install her expect some competition you bastards!

[(FIH) The Don]

what cooler ^^

[TheMailMan78]

what cooler ^^

RS1283

[(FIH) The Don]

cool^^

xiggy make some good coolers at a very good pricerange

[TheMailMan78]

cool^^

xiggy make some good coolers at a very good pricerange

I got this one free ;)

[(FIH) The Don]

awwww nice^^

[Kei]

Sweet, I'm just not finally letting my Xigy go to a new owner. That cooler is absolutely the best air cooler I've ever purchased in my life. I'm only letting it go because I wanted to play with something new otherwise I likely would never ever ever ever ever ever ever let it go. :D

I even lapped it one day when I was bored along with my 9850BE I used to have....that made the cooler go from simply astounding up to EPIC levels of greatness! You'll love it!

Kei

[department76]

Well I just got my phenom II 965 125W in today! I started ocing the moment it was in. I've seen others get 4.0ghz out of the box with 1.51V but sadly I didn't have that success. both 3.8 and 3.9 won't work at 1.47V, 4.0 won't work with 1.51V. All of this tried by simply bumping up the multi and vcore.

Seen below, currently 3.9ghz looks stable with 1.51V. I'm wondering if my old AM2+ board is playing a role on not being able to handle 4.0 easily?

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2998/71544406.png

[crazyeyesreaper]

loosen the ram timings and try again i guess

[Kei]

I can't think of anyone who has an AM2+ board and has hit 4Ghz or higher stable with either the 955 or 965 (both revisions) so far.

All of the guys I see hitting the uber clocks appear to be running a full AM3 board. With my 955 I can get 4Ghz into windows and run SuperPi and a few other things, but as far as stability it's not happening right now on air cooling. I can pass post all the way up to 4.2Ghz and get to loading windows, but that's it.

The processor seems very eager to want to get 4Ghz or better, but I think I may have hit a wall with the current AM2+ board. I know I'm going to switch (regardless of cpu clocks), I just don't know when yet.

Kei

[department76]

I can't think of anyone who has an AM2+ board and has hit 4Ghz or higher stable with either the 955 or 965 (both revisions) so far.

All of the guys I see hitting the uber clocks appear to be running a full AM3 board. With my 955 I can get 4Ghz into windows and run SuperPi and a few other things, but as far as stability it's not happening right now on air cooling. I can pass post all the way up to 4.2Ghz and get to loading windows, but that's it.

The processor seems very eager to want to get 4Ghz or better, but I think I may have hit a wall with the current AM2+ board. I know I'm going to switch (regardless of cpu clocks), I just don't know when yet.

Kei

OK that re-affirms my suspicion. i could boot at 4.0 with 1.51v vcore, but would bluescreen after about five mintues of stress testing on my AM2+ board.

3.9 seems solid so far though!

i guess i'm going for an 890FX board next year :)

[Kei]

I forgot to mention that I can get into windows and do those tests as low as 1.440v but it seems that no amount of voltage above that will get it 24/7 stable period! Temps are even remotely a problem for me even on air, but no matter what 4Ghz just won't happen for me on this board.

I didn't try to see how high I could go and still get to at least loading windows, I stopped after 4.2Ghz as it was futile anyway since 4Ghz won't get stable for me on this board. I'm still VERY pleased though, but it would be awesome if I was actually able to do more on the newer AM3 board the processor was made for. :)

Kei

[Velvet Wafer]

I forgot to mention that I can get into windows and do those tests as low as 1.440v but it seems that no amount of voltage above that will get it 24/7 stable period! Temps are even remotely a problem for me even on air, but no matter what 4Ghz just won't happen for me on this board.

I didn't try to see how high I could go and still get to at least loading windows, I stopped after 4.2Ghz as it was futile anyway since 4Ghz won't get stable for me on this board. I'm still VERY pleased though, but it would be awesome if I was actually able to do more on the newer AM3 board the processor was made for. :)

Kei

its purely ironic, how 4 ghz can be a real "wall":laugh:
amd promised us too much sadly, but at least they did manage to produce something useful:D

[department76]

^^ lol ya, no 4ghz club for me and kei :-/

[Kei]

its purely ironic, how 4 ghz can be a real "wall":laugh:
amd promised us too much sadly, but at least they did manage to produce something useful:D

lol, technically they delivered when they said you could likely do 4Ghz with air cooling. They never specified what voltage, chipset (SB600,SB710, SB750, etc.), or whether it'd be stable lol.

We've pretty much all been able to actually HIT 4Ghz, it's just that only the guys on the AM3 boards have been able to do it stable blowing on the processor. If I had water cooling then maybe I could do it (still not sure if the board would allow it). I've had similar issues with my board before on other Phenom processors as well. I could get it to boot and run for a bit at "X" speed, but regardless of the voltage I couldn't get it 24/7 stable. Some BIOS's wouldn't even allow me to get it into windows at all, while others would let me get in and play around until I went to go for 24/7 stability.

My board just doesn't seem to want to run certain extreme clocks, but I've already come to terms with that and it still kicks *** anyway! :rockout:

When I get it's big brother though I will for sure revisit the uber clocks to see what happens....I even thought about installing my 955 on my roommates 790X (SB750) Gigabyte board just to see how it would clock, but didn't want to risk his jealously or killing his board lol. I know it's not as hardcore in the bios as the M3A32 is which also made it slightly depressing. (you can't even save a profile....what?)

Kei

[Kei]

^^ lol ya, no 4ghz club for me and kei :-/

I assume that you're also still rockin the SB600 on your AM2+ board right?

Kei

[FlanK3r]

Hi guys, my new records (and czech+slowakia air records AMD)
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6457/superpi1m4410mhz3024mhz.png

And new max validation 4570 Mhz:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/888341.png
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=888341

[TheMailMan78]

Hi guys, my new records (and czech+slowakia air records AMD)
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6457/superpi1m4410mhz3024mhz.png

And new max validation 4570 Mhz:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/888341.png
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=888341

F#$K me! What kind of temps are you getting? Also whats the volts?

[(FIH) The Don]

Hi guys, my new records (and czech+slowakia air records AMD)
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6457/superpi1m4410mhz3024mhz.png

And new max validation 4570 Mhz:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/888341.png
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=888341

omfg dude, that is insane, i cannot get mine over 3.95 without goin to crashville all the time

[department76]

I assume that you're also still rockin the SB600 on your AM2+ board right?

Kei

you betcha. i do wonder if the SB710 or SB750 would make a difference. oh well only time will tell, i do plan on going to a 890FX/SB850 board next year and you better believe i'm going to try and break 4.0 then!

[Kei]

F#$K me! What kind of temps are you getting? Also whats the volts?

I'd also like to know this as well as if those are overclocks done in the BIOS or done with AOD or K10stat?

Kei

[FlanK3r]

voltage was 1.55V and ambients temp only about 10-11 C. With normal ambientsd i have minus 100 MHz in all (superpi at 4320, validation at 4480MHz etc...) Its with AOD, because start windows is "hard" for stress CPU

[fullinfusion]

I need some DDR3 ram timing help from you great ppl.... I now have my Crosshair III formula now up and running.... I updated the bios to the most current and I must say it's waaaay better... I couldn't get the ram I wanted but think I ended up getting better sticks... THESE (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr3_pc3_12800_platinum_low_voltage_triple_cha nnel) but am just using 2 sticks and not 3 and they run 1600MHz @1.65v 7.7.7.24
my question is what do I set the TRC at? currently cpu-z shows 40....
Im new to DDR3 world and going to be a pain in the ass till I get familiar with it lol jj ppl :toast::respect:

[TheMailMan78]

voltage was 1.55V and ambients temp only about 10-11 C. With normal ambientsd i have minus 100 MHz in all (superpi at 4320, validation at 4480MHz etc...) Its with AOD, because start windows is "hard" for stress CPU

AOD?

[fullinfusion]

AOD?
AOD = Amd over drive

[(FIH) The Don]

I need some DDR3 ram timing help from you great ppl.... I now have my Crosshair III formula now up and running.... I updated the bios to the most current and I must say it's waaaay better... I couldn't get the ram I wanted but think I ended up getting better sticks... THESE (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr3_pc3_12800_platinum_low_voltage_triple_cha nnel) but am just using 2 sticks and not 3 and they run 1600MHz @1.65v 7.7.7.24
my question is what do I set the TRC at? currently cpu-z shows 40....
Im new to DDR3 world and going to be a pain in the ass till I get familiar with it lol jj ppl :toast::respect:

i used these in my old rig, i think they have nice specs vs price

http://www.memoryc.com/products/description/4GB_G_Skill_DDR3_PC3_12800_1600MHz_Ripjaw_Series-7_8_7_24-Dual_Channel_kit_for_Intel_LGA1156_i5_i7/index.html

[TheMailMan78]

AOD = Amd over drive

Ah ok. What kind of cooling? FlanK3r Please fill in your specs.

[Kei]

I need some DDR3 ram timing help from you great ppl.... I now have my Crosshair III formula now up and running.... I updated the bios to the most current and I must say it's waaaay better... I couldn't get the ram I wanted but think I ended up getting better sticks... THESE (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr3_pc3_12800_platinum_low_voltage_triple_cha nnel) but am just using 2 sticks and not 3 and they run 1600MHz @1.65v 7.7.7.24
my question is what do I set the TRC at? currently cpu-z shows 40....
Im new to DDR3 world and going to be a pain in the ass till I get familiar with it lol jj ppl :toast::respect:

Sweet news full, how do you like the board so far? I'm EXTREMELY (understatement) interested in that board for my move to a full AM3 platform so any feedback helps.

As for DDR3 timings, I'm not really sure because I've only used it on one system I've built so far (not for me), and I didn't do a nearly any real tweaking on that one.

AOD?

AOD = AMD Overdrive

Kei

[TheMailMan78]

What I want to know is what kind of cooling this guy is running. To be honest it sounds to good to be true for it to be stable.

[fullinfusion]

Sweet news full, how do you like the board so far? I'm EXTREMELY (understatement) interested in that board for my move to a full AM3 platform so any feedback helps.

As for DDR3 timings, I'm not really sure because I've only used it on one system I've built so far (not for me), and I didn't do a nearly any real tweaking on that one.



AOD = AMD Overdrive

Kei
Kei you want me to take a few pix of the wickid bios for ya?
And fu*k me this is a sweet ass mobo.... all the settings is so clear you need to be a dummie not to know what each setting is for.... I just wish Asus would make a complete bios for all there high end boards...

[fullinfusion]

Kei what I love is while your in the bios and start raising fsb and cpu multi it shows in real time what the cpu and memory clocks will be doing while fiddling with the settings before you go into the os.... also the lcd poster shows real time temps... Eg, cpu..nb..sb..mb and stuff that I don't have hooked up atm or even understand...lol
all voltages you can possibly think of to set is in the bios... even every single memory timing voltage.... heck I hope im making sense but some settings are Chinese to me till some friendly mate gives us Crosshair III owners some advice on whats up with some settings.... but all in all Kei I know you would love working on this mobo.... I have never seen such an advanced and through bios and it has for sure every setting the most extreme O/c'r , under clocker could ask for.
Lets put it this way..... I feel like day one when I had no idea how to oc lol.... this is for sure the best of the best Asus has put out! :respect:
baby steps using this mobo for sure.
PS: the bios has a safety feature that when disabled unlocks all voltages to push whatever you want at it.... none of the typical voltage caps using this mobo friend :eek:

[fullinfusion]

What I want to know is what kind of cooling this guy is running. To be honest it sounds to good to be true for it to be stable.
I call bs too Mailman.... AOD lies with most mobo's

[fullinfusion]

Baby steps Kei!!! lol.... ddr3 is a learning curve so far....
current settings stable and temps are way better than the 79-T mobo...:D

http://img.techpowerup.org/091217/new.jpg

[Kei]

I don't know why I didn't do it earlier as it's a basic thing to do really, but during my transistion to the 955 processor from the 920 I updated my BIOS to the 1903 version from ASUS.

Ever since I got my 955 installed my once magical GeIL Evo One's wouldn't do a **** thing with this processor. They would post and run using the 800Mhz divider and a bus speed of 215Mhz, but they would not BUDGE 1Mhz further with this processor. Crazy enough, when I switch to the 1066Mhz divider (the GeIL ram is stock 800Mhz) it would post and get to the loading windows screen before finally rejecting the setting regardless of voltage settings.

It was making me go crazy as my Patriot Extremes work EVEN BETTER with this processor than the last (1147Mhz with the 920 up to 1221Mhz with the 955 so far). I had done every timing setting, voltage setting, memory slot configuration (as of today with the new V8 cooler), and idea I could possibly think of.

Then I have no idea why...I just thought humph...........what BIOS did I use last with the 920. Well that's the 1705 (skipped the 1703 beta's), but I didn't do much clocking with those at all so I didn't know what the GeIL would do with them. So I figure you know what lemme check a few things.

I go looking through the ASUS site at the cpu support list and I find 4 listings for the Phenom II X4 955 all for the M3A32 MVP-Wifi that I have. I thought that was rather strange so I dig further....turns out when I upgraded the BIOS it was the proper once for the 955 processor so no worries.

......oh yea I DON'T HAAAAVE THE C3 model cuz I couldn't find one for sale! I look and what do you know the 1903 is listed in the updates section with the message "support new cpu's". Hmmmm...look back the 955 C2 (what almost all of us have) is supported from 1604. Look further and there is a listing for the 955 C2 model with the 1701 betas, and of course a listing for the 1903 newer drivers.

Well I decide to give it a go all the way back to my favorite drivers for this board (since the 9850BE times which turned AMAZING new results with 1604's). Try it out and what do you know.....see the attatchments to witness the new (old) awesome.

Finally my GeIL's are able to stretch their legs again, and are no longer shackled to the 800-830Mhz range! I don't know their actual limits with this processor yet, I just figured I'd try out a 'safe' (lol...for me) setting on the ram since I already know they did 1100Mhz with the 920 processor.

I'd LOVE it if they went further, but I'm perfectly happy if they "only" do 1100Mhz...after all they are only 800Mhz modules lol. :rockout: Moral of the story...don't forget to check the most basic things before you start pulling your hair out haha.

Kei

(btw, I was also able to validate my 4Ghz all four cores boot/run from bios clock with this release unlike last time on the 1905's...it still crashed when I was running wPrime, but didn't have a hiccup until then 1.440v)

http://www.pbase.com/kamukix/image/120385215/original.jpg

4Ghz Validation

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=888759

[Kei]

@ Full

Your review of that board has me giggling with anticipation like a little school girl! :o

Kei

[fullinfusion]

@ Full

Your review of that board has me giggling with anticipation like a little school girl! :o

Kei
dude giggle as much as you like and go get it!!!! you wont regret it.... oh and no more moving the cmos jumper to clear the bios when it hangs up.... just reach behind the case where the usb plugs and such are and press the clear cmos button lol...

[Kei]

oh and no more moving the cmos jumper to clear the bios when it hangs up.... just reach behind the case where the usb plugs and such are and press the clear cmos button lol...

That......is the greatest quote I have ever quoted before. :twitch:

No more jumpers....no more fear of if you REALLY wanna try for that last Mhz of bus speed at 345am and risk having to get up from the bed.....no more having to remove the sound card because it blocks the battery...just heaven.....pure heaven. :o

Kei

[fullinfusion]

Hey sense this is a new mobo do you all think I should do a fresh OS install? you think things wont play nice as before?
I went from an M3A79-T deluxe DDR2 to the CrosshairIII DDR3

[fullinfusion]

That......is the greatest quote I have ever quoted before. :twitch:

No more jumpers....no more fear of if you REALLY wanna try for that last Mhz of bus speed at 345am and risk having to get up from the bed.....no more having to remove the sound card because it blocks the battery...just heaven.....pure heaven. :o

Kei
haha I hear that man!!! no more asking the wife.... where the hell is my long tweezers!!!! :rolleyes:

[(FIH) The Don]

i woul def get a fresh install, there will always be some drivers laying around from the old setup.

so go do the new if you dont mind it;-)

[KieranD]

lol my screwdriver kit came with a pair of tweezers! its brilliant comes with tons of magnetic attachments to screws stick to it OBVIOUSLY lol

currently myself running stock as i want to oc but my gpu is acting up in 3D

[fullinfusion]

i woul def get a fresh install, there will always be some drivers laying around from the old setup.

so go do the new if you dont mind it;-)
na I dont mind doing it ..... I just think some thing is not playing nice atm.... plus when I booted for the 1st time there was a shit load of new drivers being installed

[Chicken Patty]

get a fresh install Brad, just to make sure :toast:

[(FIH) The Don]

def. a new install just to be sure as CP says

[fullinfusion]

get a fresh install Brad, just to make sure :toast:
ok will do it in the morning :respect:

[(FIH) The Don]

how do you guys thank people in posts?

still haven't figured it out haha

edit : DOH the BIIIIIIIIG smiley :shadedshu

[fullinfusion]

just look at the right bottom of the post and there is a thanks button lol.... just thank away bro heheheh

[Chicken Patty]

ok will do it in the morning :respect:

Keep us posted dude :toast:

[Kei]

Quick update on the GeIL + X4 955 + 1604 bios testing.

So far I've got the ram running up to an astounding 1128Mhz on 2.3v (stock is 2.3v Patriot and 2.2v GeIL). I haven't tried to run any memtest as I'm not really concerned with ultimate stability just yet. I just want to see exactly how high I can take this ram on cl5 timings and still run passing SuperPi/wPrime/3DMark06/Everest benchmarks and normal daily stuff.

So far no real problems which is simply amazing taking 800Mhz 4-4-4 memory up to 1128Mhz 5-5-5 timings. :rockout:

I think I can get just a couple more Mhz out of them before they start giving me errors, but I'm BEYOND floored already that it goes this high at all.

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

Quick update on the GeIL + X4 955 + 1604 bios testing.

So far I've got the ram running up to an astounding 1128Mhz on 2.3v (stock is 2.3v Patriot and 2.2v GeIL). I haven't tried to run any memtest as I'm not really concerned with ultimate stability just yet. I just want to see exactly how high I can take this ram on cl5 timings and still run passing SuperPi/wPrime/3DMark06/Everest benchmarks and normal daily stuff.

So far no real problems which is simply amazing taking 800Mhz 4-4-4 memory up to 1128Mhz 5-5-5 timings. :rockout:

I think I can get just a couple more Mhz out of them before they start giving me errors, but I'm BEYOND floored already that it goes this high at all.

Kei


Good job tweaking the RAM Kei. That is amazing considering it is DDR2 800 :respect:

[Velvet Wafer]

Good job tweaking the RAM Kei. That is amazing considering it is DDR2 800 :respect:

*cough* my ballistix 800 do 1152 5-5-5-12 with extremely sharp subtiming. 2.1v
i really like them, but dont have them in use atm

[Kei]

Good job tweaking the RAM Kei. That is amazing considering it is DDR2 800 :respect:

Thanks! They finally gave up the fight after about 20 minutes at 1138Mhz 5-5-5-16-32 2.3v

I didn't think they even get to that as they got hung up at the loading screen (it wasn't locked, just taking a looong time to load) when I tried that using the 800Mhz divider. I switched to the 1066 divider instead and gave it another go and it made it for the 20 mins like I said.

I'm super pleased!

*cough* my ballistix 800 do 1152 5-5-5-12 with extremely sharp subtiming. 2.1v
i really like them, but dont have them in use atm

That's awesome Velvet! Are those 100% stock 800Mhz ram units or are they stock 800Mhz units that are rated from the factory to do "X" amount of Mhz? My Patriot Extreme's are 800Mhz units, but they're rated from the factory to do 1150Mhz 5-5-5-12 on 2.3v. I took them all the way up to 1221Mhz 5-5-5 on 2.2v before changing the bios back to the one I'm using now. I haven't retested them nor doubt I will bother....I think. ;)

Kei

[Kei]

Since I'm back on my favorite bios for this board I decided to give the low voltage runs another go since this bios did so AMAZINGLY well with the 9850BE I used to run (allowed me to go to the stock 2.5Ghz on only 1.062v which was a lot lower than before).

If I remember correctly the lowest voltage I was able to boot the stock 3.2Ghz with my 955 on the 1903 bios was 1.184v. I needed 1.20v in order to be 100% stable which was still sweet, but it left me with some pretty serious questions.

The old bios had significant gaps in voltage jumps when going for small speed increases even if you weren't at a nose bleed speed (3.8-4.0Ghz). When I say strange I mean I could get 3.0Ghz @ 1.104v absolutely torture all night stable, but it took a rather huge jump up to 1.20v in order to get 3.2Ghz stable?

To make it even crazier...3.1Ghz @ 1.136v was also torture all night stable. Now that I'm on the good 'ol epic bios again I'm wondering if those large jumps are part of the processor or that bios itself having conflicts with my processor since it was C2 and not C3.

So far it's looking sweet...haven't tested stability yet, but the fact that it even makes it to windows gives me hope enough. :rockout:

Kei


http://www.pbase.com/kamukix/image/120387230/original.jpg

[Kei]

Sorry for image size, for some reason it decided not to do the usual 'click to see fullsize image' thing. :o

Kei

[Velvet Wafer]

Thanks! They finally gave up the fight after about 20 minutes at 1138Mhz 5-5-5-16-32 2.3v

I didn't think they even get to that as they got hung up at the loading screen (it wasn't locked, just taking a looong time to load) when I tried that using the 800Mhz divider. I switched to the 1066 divider instead and gave it another go and it made it for the 20 mins like I said.

I'm super pleased!



That's awesome Velvet! Are those 100% stock 800Mhz ram units or are they stock 800Mhz units that are rated from the factory to do "X" amount of Mhz? My Patriot Extreme's are 800Mhz units, but they're rated from the factory to do 1150Mhz 5-5-5-12 on 2.3v. I took them all the way up to 1221Mhz 5-5-5 on 2.2v before changing the bios back to the one I'm using now. I haven't retested them nor doubt I will bother....I think. ;)

Kei

they are sold as 800 mhz, i dont even know which d9 they used here, but the sticks are from the new 80A batch, and are 2.0v stock.
would you mind to search for the datasheet?:o

http://www.testberichte.de/imgs/p_imgs/Crucial+Ballistix+DDR2+BL2KIT25664AA80A+%284+GB%29-190258.gif
sorry for not naming you the full batch, i dont have them here atm, i lent them to a buddy, to construct a rig

[Kei]

I figured 3.2Ghz @ 1.136v wouldn't be stable...and it wasn't. During the test it had an error about 3 minutes in, but it didn't bsod/freeze/reset which was cool. Bumped it 1 notch and got to about 9 minutes in before an error, still no bsod/freeze/reset. Bump it 1 more notch and it had an error........no wait! It passed all 20 passes without a hiccup or error. :rockout:

1604 bios
3.2Ghz @ 1.168v (31C 100% LinX load silent fan style)

1903 bios
3.2Ghz @ 1.200v

Looks like that 1903 bios did have some issues with my C2 stepping 955 afterall. After I get done with the epic 1604's I'll probably give the 1705's another go to see if they're any better or worse.

That is AWESOME though that I can run the voltage so low at 3.2Ghz! A year ago who would/ve even dreamt that!

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

From experience, sometimes the BIOS is all it takes to go from shitty overclock, to a heck of a overclock!

When I had my M3A79-T the 0603 BIOS was the latest, I was not able to get above 3Ghz with my 9850. switched to 0403 and went up to 3.6 Ghz. You tell me if it was the BIOS or not :D

[FlanK3r]

Ah ok. What kind of cooling? FlanK3r Please fill in your specs.

cooling is Cooler Master Hyper 212,so, more with my PC u can watch here first page is about my x4 955 BE and second about my x4 965 BE C3 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=234370)

And here older photo system (now i have 120mm fan and new graphic card)http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/1676/temps.jpg

[Kei]

Just had to see if I could actually make it through a post at 4Ghz in dual core mode without any errors using the epic bios.

So far I've run 3 SuperPi runs and started writing this post (also validated with CPU-Z below).

It's been 13 minutes and it's not went mad just yet...I'm gonna TRY to run wPrime and hopefully it'll pass that and go from there. I'm still not really betting that it's gonna be stable, but it would be cool if it was. :)

Kei

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=889839

Edit: It made it a half hour before I decided to reset. It didn't have any big errors, but I am certain that it would not have proven truly stable. Retesting at a slightly higher voltage...

[Kei]

Okay so final results of that little dance left me with 4Ghz @ 1.376v will run SuperPi and wPrime, but not pass LinX. 4Ghz @ 1.42v will not pass the welcome screen into windows at all. 4Ghz @ 1.39-1.41v will run for a very long time without bsod/freeze/reset, but won't pass LinX. Those are all dual core boots straight from the bios.

Temps aren't even a remote worry as even with the fan on a low setting I've not seen more than 36-37C.

Interesting results for sure, I booted 4Ghz @ 1.39v on all four cores and got just inside windows before it reset on me. That easily the lowest I've ever test with four cores making it into windows, previously 1.440v was needed with the 1903 bios.

Kei

[Velvet Wafer]

Okay so final results of that little dance left me with 4Ghz @ 1.376v will run SuperPi and wPrime, but not pass LinX. 4Ghz @ 1.42v will not pass the welcome screen into windows at all. 4Ghz @ 1.39-1.41v will run for a very long time without bsod/freeze/reset, but won't pass LinX. Those are all dual core boots straight from the bios.

Temps aren't even a remote worry as even with the fan on a low setting I've not seen more than 36-37C.

Interesting results for sure, I booted 4Ghz @ 1.39v on all four cores and got just inside windows before it reset on me. That easily the lowest I've ever test with four cores making it into windows, previously 1.440v was needed with the 1903 bios.

Kei

dont underestimate the temperature scaling. as i went from a single 240, to my current megarad and the 240 in parallel, i could validate it to 4.2, when even 4 were problematic before. phenom scales all the way down, to -200degrees and below;)

idle i was at 25 degrees,the run^^

[Kei]

It appears as though while I regain my overclocking awesomeness I may infact lose out in other things. Since I did the bios flash back to the 1604 epic bios it seems that I can't play any flash video (justin.tv, etc.) without some serious issues going on.

I tried the new 9.12 drivers as well as the 9.11's that I was already on before the flash. I reseated the card and tried a different 6-pin connector, I checked the heat, I checked the bios settings, I ran with everything on default (bios and CCC).

No matter what I did the display driver would go to crap once I started any flash video (updated that too), and even after I closed it off the performance would be garbage. Everything was just plain horrid after loading up any flash video.

Swap to the 1705's and it was the same, swap to the 1903's and it's perfect again.

I'm going to try to redownload the other bios files again, and then give them another test perhaps just to confirm it was that tomorrow perhaps.

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

It appears as though while I regain my overclocking awesomeness I may infact lose out in other things. Since I did the bios flash back to the 1604 epic bios it seems that I can't play any flash video (justin.tv, etc.) without some serious issues going on.

I tried the new 9.12 drivers as well as the 9.11's that I was already on before the flash. I reseated the card and tried a different 6-pin connector, I checked the heat, I checked the bios settings, I ran with everything on default (bios and CCC).

No matter what I did the display driver would go to crap once I started any flash video (updated that too), and even after I closed it off the performance would be garbage. Everything was just plain horrid after loading up any flash video.

Swap to the 1705's and it was the same, swap to the 1903's and it's perfect again.

I'm going to try to redownload the other bios files again, and then give them another test perhaps just to confirm it was that tomorrow perhaps.

Kei

Guess it's just that certain BIOS updates cause that. Just stick with the one that works bro :)

[Kei]

Yea, I know.....I wanna throw something now though lol. I'm hoping that maybe it was something else so I'll try the other bios again juuuuuuuust in case......sadly I never had these problems until I flashed back to the older bios so I'm pretty sure that's what the issue was after trying a bunch of things. :(

Kei

[eidairaman1]

when flashing bios, Always restore the bios back to defaults or safe settings.

[Kei]

always have :)

[Kei]

Okay not really 'hot' in gpu terms, but it's super sweet that's for sure! After jimmyz (thanks again) let me in on how to unlock the clock limits of MSI Afterburner for the 5700 series cards, I finally had a chance to let my card stretch it's legs a bit. (9.12 Hotfix drivers for Win7 64)

I've got an XFX 5770 1Gb which I'm in love with, but CCC has it shackled by the in program limits of 960Mhz core and 1445Mhz memory. Honestly those are both awesome clocks anyway, but I knew my card could go further because it did those without even flinching.

I haven't went through all the voltage testing yet, I just dialed in a safe 1.20v (stock is 1.125 I believe...most I've heard of being used was 1.3x) and started to bump the speed a little bit.

I'll test more later on, but the card didn't have any issues whatsoever no matter what test I threw at it running 1025Mhz core clock and 1440Mhz memory. I didn't try to up the memory speed yet as I was focused only on the core speed for now, thus the safe memory clock settings.

At those settings I've been able to run many 3DMark06 tests, load up my replay files in iRacing, and play Crysis Warhead in DX10 mode with Enthusiast graphics settings being the highest you can go. I was super surprised how well Crysis ran with those settings in comparison to stock. I held 30fps (vsync is on so I don't know the max above 60) for roughly 98% of the first level regardless of what was happening. I didn't play any further than that as I was just exploring and trying to see how things ran. Playtime was roughly 30-40 minutes running around after taking most everyone out. :)

I didn't overclock anything in the system so the results would be even better had I done that! At certain points the frame rate would rise to lock at 60fps for a small burst or two which was grin inducing. I play at 1360*768 resolution on a 32" lcd monitor.

3DMark results for 100% stock yielded 15,607pts, and with only the gpu clocked up rose to 16,606pts. Of course the score would rise hugely if everything else was clocked up (I've already done 18,423 with lower gpu clocks than this). If my memory serves me right my first test ever with this card was at 3Ghz clock setting and everything stock which gave me 15,244pts...everything clocked up (gpu 960/1445) gave 18,423. If it actually scaled the same then I could be finally looking at a 19k score for the first time. :rockout:

Kei

http://www.pbase.com/kamukix/image/120419051/original.jpg

[fullinfusion]

Can any of you fine clockers please explain to me what CPU LOAD-LINE CALIBRATION is?

All it tells me in the bios is....

Disabled: The Cpu Voltage has 50mV Droop with Loadline

Enabled: The Cpu Voltage will be kept without loading.

[fullinfusion]

Did I stump ya'll? :eek:

[Kei]

Full, the loadline calibration is to help you make sure there is no voltage droop (fluctuation) to ensure that your clocking is easier. I'm sure you've seen on some of your other boards before the voltage fluctuating if you stared at cpu-z for a bit with a certain overclock and voltage level.

Loadline just takes care of that for you, though I heard the board doesn't even need it because of it's fantastic efficiency. :)

Kei

[fullinfusion]

I wanna share some info to you all regarding cpu voltage....

First, I just really started to play with this Crosshair III mobo and I find it holds really tight voltages....:respect:

I just bumped the cpu multi up from x16 to x17.5 and left the cpu volts on auto in the bios...
Now here's the kicker..... Cpu-z shows 1.35v with no fluctuations.... the LCD poster which I have set in the bios to display all voltages is displaying a whooping 1.402v in real time....

I recall o/c'n my ol 6400 black and found that having the cpu volt set to lets say 1.4850 would run but wouldn't be stable more than 30min.... cpu temp were fine.... so just for the hell of it by fluke I lowered the volts down to 1.4650 and it was %100 stable....
So all in all I believe some of us are being tricked... just something to keep in the back of you minds :toast:

Cheers :toast:

[fullinfusion]

Full, the loadline calibration is to help you make sure there is no voltage droop (fluctuation) to ensure that your clocking is easier. I'm sure you've seen on some of your other boards before the voltage fluctuating if you stared at cpu-z for a bit with a certain overclock and voltage level.

Loadline just takes care of that for you, though I heard the board doesn't even need it because of it's fantastic efficiency. :)

Kei
haha I been watching it like a cat scoping out its prey and nothing!!! not a dam thing.... Cpu-z as well as the lcd post monitor is holding SOLID!!!! no bs just I've never seen that before and I love it!!!! teeheehee :roll:

[trt740]

anyone breaking 4.0ghz on the newer 965s on air 24/7 with reasonable voltage?

[brandonwh64]

anyone breaking 4.0ghz on the newer 965s on air 24/7 with reasonable voltage?

Here ta got TRT740. ADD ME!!!

Specs:

ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard |
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 125W |
Corsair TWINX Dominator Dual Channel 4096MB PC12800 DDR3 1600MHz Memory |
BFG GTX 285 OC+ 1GB |
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000 RPM - MAIN DRIVE |
2x 250GB/400GB/500GB 7,200 HDDs |
Corsair 750TX Power Supply |
Tuniq Tower 120 |
Windows 7 |
NZXT M59 Case

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/brandonwh64/prime.png

[fullinfusion]

anyone breaking 4.0ghz on the newer 965s on air 24/7 with reasonable voltage?
965 C3 is easy even for air bro!
I see the dude above me is running 1.50v..... way to much imo :slap:

[brandonwh64]

Isnt stable below that

[Assassin48]

Just messing with mine right now and yes this is on air ( true 120 )

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4185/9204.jpg

[fullinfusion]

Isnt stable below that
try 1.48v or even one click lower.... did you read my post about bios and cpuid volts?

[brandonwh64]

naa i hanvt read your post about the bios or cpuid volts. link me too it and i will. i really do need to get it down alittle. i do like 4ghz tho :)

nice assasin i see your running at 1.5v too

[fullinfusion]

Just messing with mine right now and yes this is on air ( true 120 )

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4185/9204.jpg
assassin glad to see your amd again bro!!!!:respect:

OT: hows project stang going?

[Assassin48]

Yea for now, just trying to see how high i can this on air

memory hasnt been tuned yet so thats low so is my NB

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6339/898.jpg


@ Fullinfusion - I haven't done much to it, have to clean up the garage to do more work on it.

[fullinfusion]

naa i hanvt read your post about the bios or cpuid volts. link me too it and i will. i really do need to get it down alittle. i do like 4ghz tho :)

nice assasin i see your running at 1.5v too
#6585 post..... just look up bro! :eek:

[aCid888*]

I need some info/help/tips on how to get my 945ES to 4GHz 24/7......I'm pretty inexperienced with AMD setups as I've spent the last few years with Intel. :banghead:

Any help would be good lol

[fullinfusion]

I need some info/help/tips on how to get my 945ES to 4GHz 24/7......I'm pretty inexperienced with AMD setups as I've spent the last few years with Intel. :banghead:

Any help would be good lol
TIP #1

Get a C3 125 watt 965 Phenom II! :pimp:

[aCid888*]

I'd sooner keep my 945ES than go out and buy a retail chip.






My e-penis grows by at least 1.7" from having the ES. :roll:

[cdawall]

I'd sooner keep my 945ES than go out and buy a retail chip.






My e-penis grows by at least 1.7" from having the ES. :roll:

well mine doubles yours cause i have 2

[aCid888*]

Some Day Mine Will Be As Big As Yours!!!!qq!!q!

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

[crazyeyesreaper]

gah all you guys and your engineering this and awesome that -_- kind of depressing for me haha i have 2 awesome gpus and a cpu that cant push them

[Assassin48]

gah all you guys and your engineering this and awesome that -_- kind of depressing for me haha i have 2 awesome gpus and a cpu that cant push them

Sell 1 and your cpu, pick up a 965 C3


or wait for the 6 core versions to come out


I'm really impress with mine, 4.2ghz @ 1.5 is nice, temps are around 38C with prime95 running for 30mins

[trt740]

Here ta got TRT740. ADD ME!!!

Specs:

ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard |
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 125W |
Corsair TWINX Dominator Dual Channel 4096MB PC12800 DDR3 1600MHz Memory |
BFG GTX 285 OC+ 1GB |
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000 RPM - MAIN DRIVE |
2x 250GB/400GB/500GB 7,200 HDDs |
Corsair 750TX Power Supply |
Tuniq Tower 120 |
Windows 7 |
NZXT M59 Case

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/brandonwh64/prime.png

Just messing with mine right now and yes this is on air ( true 120 )

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4185/9204.jpg

Thx fellas i'm think of selling my my I7 rig and pocket a bit of cash to head again into the AMD arena. There really isn't anythig to dislike about my current rig but I'm a bit bored.

Was thinking about this set up http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?submit=Change selling my current rig and making 200.00 to apply to a bit better video card.


Or if I wanted to get even wilder and save/ make 300.00 this one I might buy and I bet in the real world I would see little difference. http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?submit=ChangeItem

[Assassin48]

Thx fellas i'm think of selling my my I7 rig and pocket a bit of cash to head again into the AMD arena. There really isn't anythig to dislike about my current rig but I'm a bit board.

For performance the i7 1366 is the way to go, there's no denying that.

get a new cpu if you want to play with something new

For gaming AMD is a little more affordable but with 1156 out and the i5 750 going for $150 @ microcenter its a tough choice

[DirectorC]

Yeah the i5 750 slays the PII 965 (and that's at the stock clocks of 2.66 and 3.4 respectively) so AMD is in trouble right now.

[trt740]

Yeah the i5 750 slays the PII 965 (and that's at 2.66 vs 3.4 GHz) so AMD is in trouble right now.

I'm not sure it slays it, and they are more expensive on the lower end. However, almost all the cpus both companies sell are great for day to day use.

[DirectorC]

I'm not sure it slays it, and they are more expensive on the lower end. However, almost all the cpus both companies sell are great for day to day use.

There's a few benchmarks where the 965 edges out the i5, but there are a lot of benches where the i5 is on top (especially in games), and we are talking on stock clocks here where the difference between the 965 and the i5 is huge, and the 2.66GHz i5 can hit >4GHz easier than the 3.4GHz PII. Overclocked to 4.13GHz, the i5 obliterates everything and runs very close to similarly clocked i7s (sometimes even beating them--memory controller?). A PII 965 costs $10 less than an i5 750. The sum of these statements is what I meant by 'slays'.

[crazyeyesreaper]

well im not selling my 5850s i watched newegg for 6hrs just to nab 2 of them and finally got them at 4am est back when they first were released, at $259. While i want a 965 c3 with new mobo etc; again no money to make said purchase, and if i sell what i have now theres no reason to upgrade. I am bottlenecked by my cpu on crossfire 5850s if i sell a 5850 the bottleneck is gone :toast: i want full perfromance so im hoping to save some cash and grab a 965 125watt drop it in wait a bit then upgrade to a 790fx board when all you guys jump on the 890fx boards and ill grab ddr3 as it will be cheaper then as well. that way i can get full AM3 platform goodness overclock to 4ghz with my xiggy and call it a day and when thuban comes out i can wait and see how good it is

[trt740]

May just keep what I have, it's so good I'm bored. Well I could do a rebuild and have all kinds of trouble and be sorry but I really like amd.

[Assassin48]

May just keep what I have, it's so good I'm bored. Well I could do a rebuild and have all kinds of trouble and be sorry but I really like amd.

if your looking for an AM3 board, i have a UD5P that i'm selling. Buyers backed out, Pm me if interested.

This 965BE c3 i have is a nice cpu, 4.2ghz 1.5v Stable

[crazyeyesreaper]

sent you a PM how well does that gigabyte board clock? as i was looking at the Sata 6gbps usb 3 version of the board u have

damn i need more cash god i hate being broke all the damn time if i had my way id have my Am3 setup already running and my AM2+ setup up for sale or possible giveaway

[aCid888*]

I had a little play tonight....here is the result. :)\

http://img.techpowerup.org/091220/Capture040.jpg

[sinar]

Single Stage, bios temp -8C idle
Vcore @ 1.714V bios
NB @ 1.4V


http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5858/screenshot492.jpg

[brandonwh64]

Thx fellas i'm think of selling my my I7 rig and pocket a bit of cash to head again into the AMD arena. There really isn't anythig to dislike about my current rig but I'm a bit bored.

Was thinking about this set up http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?submit=Change selling my current rig and making 200.00 to apply to a bit better video card.


Or if I wanted to get even wilder and save/ make 300.00 this one I might buy and I bet in the real world I would see little difference. http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?submit=ChangeItem

TRT i would straight trade you your mobo and CPU for mine :)

[Fitseries3]

anyone know how or if i can unlock all 4 cores on my 550be on my ecs 785g mobo?

[brandonwh64]

Hmm maybe if it has ACC and even then its like the luck of the draw

[Fitseries3]

where would that be located in the bios cause i dont think ive seen it yet.

[Assassin48]

where would that be located in the bios cause i dont think ive seen it yet.

Yes you can here you go
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-9562-view-AMD-785G-propose-a-simple-processor-unlock.html

[eidairaman1]

depends on the motherboard maker aswell, also there is no guarantee the other cores on that processor if any are in any good condition.

[cdawall]

Some Day Mine Will Be As Big As Yours!!!!qq!!q!

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

im trying to beat your 945ES on air with a phenom 910 :roll:

http://img.techpowerup.org/091221/Capture013.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/091221/DSCF2735.jpg

[TheMailMan78]

gah all you guys and your engineering this and awesome that -_- kind of depressing for me haha i have 2 awesome gpus and a cpu that cant push them

WTF are you talking about? Thats more than enough CPU to push them cards.

[cdawall]

gah all you guys and your engineering this and awesome that -_- kind of depressing for me haha i have 2 awesome gpus and a cpu that cant push them

why cant a 940 push them my 910 is clocked plenty high and is retail on air...getting a 620 today going to have some fun with that :D

[crazyeyesreaper]

did a few tests cards scale linear with clock speed increase for me in multiple games 3ghz 3.2ghz 3.4ghz each jump shows another 5% increase so a jump from 3ghz to 4ghz would in theory give me 25% and ive seen the difference in frames between my setup and erockers from clock speed alone he gets a rather large increase compared to myself :toast:

going AM3 + higher clock speed would result in some cases of a 30% improvement with ddr3 etc ;) thus why i need to upgrade

and my gigabyte board just wont clock my 940be at all 3.4ghz is the highest it will boot at where as my old asrock would allow 4ghz

that and i keep telling myself if i upgrade now i can get a drop in Thuban later

[eidairaman1]

swap the processor

[crazyeyesreaper]

would if i could ;) i had planed to grab a 965 125 watt drop it in see what i got then eventually when you peeps move on to 890fx boards id get a 790fx board cheap and grab some DDR3 ;) that was the plan but moneys tight at the moment

[crazyeyesreaper]

well i blew $330 on a Samsung T260HD should arrive tuesday or wednesday i cant wait for some dual monitor action in supcom haha

[cdawall]

just so everyone knows that i am still alive

http://img.techpowerup.org/091228/4200.png

stock cooler too

[Kei]

Wow....sometimes I hate you :p

Awesome clock what board is that on now Crosshair III? I just picked up a 790GX board (ASUS) and it's going pretty well so far though I haven't tried anything drastic on it just yet.

I still don't have any proper ram in it, just using some OCZ 1333Mhz cas7 stuff (running 6-7-6-16-21 1T) until I figure out how to tweak on DDR3 and decide what I want in the end. Not bad ram I must say for budget stuff. :)

I'm typing this post from the Express Gate feature on the board now. I figured since I've built 3 systems with Express Gate ability maybe I should actually check it out for myself lol. THIS FEATURE IS AWESOME! I had no idea it had this much available, and of course the boot time (or lack thereof) is insane.

Kei

[p_o_s_pc]

is this club also for Athlon II users? there based on the PII and clock mostly the same way

[cdawall]

Wow....sometimes I hate you :p

Awesome clock what board is that on now Crosshair III? I just picked up a 790GX board (ASUS) and it's going pretty well so far though I haven't tried anything drastic on it just yet.

I still don't have any proper ram in it, just using some OCZ 1333Mhz cas7 stuff (running 6-7-6-16-21 1T) until I figure out how to tweak on DDR3 and decide what I want in the end. Not bad ram I must say for budget stuff. :)

I'm typing this post from the Express Gate feature on the board now. I figured since I've built 3 systems with Express Gate ability maybe I should actually check it out for myself lol. THIS FEATURE IS AWESOME! I had no idea it had this much available, and of course the boot time (or lack thereof) is insane.

Kei

actually this in my dad's PC its just a little M3A78-T and some elpida's in it

[Kei]

is this club also for Athlon II users? there based on the PII and clock mostly the same way

It's still a Phenom II so it counts in my book. When I had the Phenom I thread going it counted for the Kuma guys too because they were Phenom I's.

@ wall

lol, that's like another kick to the gut knowing that you're using the same board (though AM2+ flavor), and still rocking out awesome clocks. Once I figure things out with this board I'll see what she can really do with my C2 955. I have found so far though that the Northbridge will hit 2.8Ghz without any real issues even booting from 1.25v and running for a while. 3Ghz didn't happen, but I never tried any high voltage than 1.30v (what I used to use for 3Ghz NB on the M3A32-MVP) yet. I also haven't touched any of the other NB voltages or settings so I think it's still possible to get 3Ghz again.

Cpu side of things just using simple multiplier clocking I've found that 3.9Ghz was still doable without any effort at 1.40v. 4Ghz will take more volts than that with simple multiplier clocking though I haven't tweaked ANYTHING in that regard so it may not. I also didn't bother turning up the fan speed past super silent (~450rpm out of 2000+) so that may help as well. I did a quick check though and turning the multiplier up still let me load windows but fail just before the welcome screen at 4.1Ghz on silent fans.

I know I've got A LOT to learn about this board and DDR3 so I'm fairly optimistic right now and very excited to learn something new.

Any idea on what's considered safe voltage for DDR3 (roughly of course) if the default voltage is 1.8v?

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

Good clocking Chris. How were the temps at idle like that with the stock cooler?

[rickss69]

Phenom 550 BE

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq69/rickss69/ScreenHunter_01Dec192218.jpg

[Kei]

Just figured I'd get a screenshot at 4Ghz on the new board. :)

I set the bios to 1.52v just to be on the 'safe' side and avoid any bsod episodes. So far the 790GX has impressed me quite a lot in what it can do, and it's just about right since I never used more than 2 PCI-E slots anyway lol.

Ah, forgot to post that I took the board up to HTT (bus) max speed this morning to see what she could do. I didn't take a screenshot, but I did 335Mhz which is fantastic I think. I could post at 340Mhz, but it wouldn't run at that speed. I'm not certain though if that was because of anything else since I didn't bother to adjust any voltages higher than stock anyway lol. I also ran into a ceiling with the ram since even at the lowest divider my ram speed was 1320Mhz when I hit 330Mhz on the HTT bus...maybe with better ram I may have been able to go higher, or tuning voltages but I'm pleased anyway lol.

The voltage in the Everest shot is not correct as in the bios it's set to 1.35v (stock). I'm not sure what's up with that just yet, but I remember reading something about a jumper on the board I may have to work with concerning voltages.

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

What cooling did you use Rick? Great run dude.

[Kei]

+1

[rickss69]

What cooling did you use Rick? Great run dude.

Been awhile back but I believe that was with a dice pot.

[Chicken Patty]

What do you think that CPU can do under some LN2? Looks promising.

[cdawall]

Good clocking Chris. How were the temps at idle like that with the stock cooler?

it was sitting 35C idle 45C load i already swapped it for a full copper Tt Silent Boost RX K8 makes no noise and does a pretty good job for temps about 2-3C less than the stocker

24/7 is looking like 3.6ghz 1.35v

[Chicken Patty]

How the he'll did the stock cooler do so good?

[cdawall]

How the he'll did the stock cooler do so good?

no idea but it was working good so i didn't complain

[Chicken Patty]

I wouldn't have neither, was just curious. You sure you didn't strap on a 120mm or something?

[cdawall]

I wouldn't have neither, was just curious. You sure you didn't strap on a 120mm or something?

nope bone stock

[Chicken Patty]

Gotta be careful with you. You are a sneaky one :)

[Dippyskoodlez]

Stock cooler still..
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=912279

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/912279.png

Hoping to get some water or a better heatsink in a few weeks :s

[TheMailMan78]

Stock cooler still..
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=912279

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/912279.png

Hoping to get some water or a better heatsink in a few weeks :s

Holy shit. What kind of temp did you get?

[erocker]

Want good RAM for your AM3 rig? Just found some in stock, here you go: http://www.provantage.com/crucial-technology-memory-bl2kit25664ba1336~7CIAL618.htm

I've been using it a while now and it works great with AM3. Very flexible with timings and can handle a lot of voltage. Works for me at 1450mhz cas 6 stock voltage.

[Dippyskoodlez]

Holy shit. What kind of temp did you get?

Its running upwards of 60C... Quite a bit too warm for my tastes so I've backed down to 3600..

Should be able to swing a water loop in a few weeks though to really be able to push it a bit more. :)

[jjFarking]

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=912595

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/912595.png

All @ stock settings, except for the multiplier (19x)
Will be getting a better CPU HSF next week sometime, as this stock cooler is the worst I have ever encountered in my more than 20 years of working with PCs :shadedshu
Once that's dropped in, I'll be getting back with some OC figures :rockout:

[cdawall]

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=912595

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/912595.png

All @ stock settings, except for the multiplier (19x)
Will be getting a better CPU HSF next week sometime, as this stock cooler is the worst I have ever encountered in my more than 20 years of working with PCs :shadedshu
Once that's dropped in, I'll be getting back with some OC figures :rockout:

the stock cooler is one of the better coolers made....what complaints do you have for it because every single review on the X4 965 raves about that cooler be the best AMD cooler out there. did you forget this chip tops the charts on wattage?

oh and look up some posts i got 4.2ghz on that stock cooler using a RB-C2 140w 965BE

[crazyeyesreaper]

GAH cd send me a 965 or a 955 ;) lol better yet send me one that can hit 4ghz 24/7 stable better yet what would you want for one maybe i can buy it (doubtfull) but argh i want more then this 940BE can give me

anyway man always impressed by your clocks :toast:

[cdawall]

GAH cd send me a 965 or a 955 ;) lol better yet send me one that can hit 4ghz 24/7 stable better yet what would you want for one maybe i can buy it (doubtfull) but argh i want more then this 940BE can give me

anyway man always impressed by your clocks :toast:

thanks and try microcenter my dad got his for $160 on sale there i just clocked it up for him being the great son i am

[crazyeyesreaper]

hahaha yea im no where near a micro center man not even closest is boston and thats about 200miles so 400miles round trip it would cost far more to get there and back bah lol send me one of those lovely engineering samples :toast:

[cdawall]

hahaha yea im no where near a micro center man not even closest is boston and thats about 200miles so 400miles round trip it would cost far more to get there and back bah lol send me one of those lovely engineering samples :toast:

lol i'm out of ES chips the last one is in my brothers computer and its not a unlocked chip

[crazyeyesreaper]

damn -_- if someone would send me a good clocking 955 or older 140watt 965 id give my 940be in trade (clocks dam good just dosent like my gigabyte board for some reason )

[jjFarking]

the stock cooler is one of the better coolers made....what complaints do you have for it because every single review on the X4 965 raves about that cooler be the best AMD cooler out there. did you forget this chip tops the charts on wattage?

oh and look up some posts i got 4.2ghz on that stock cooler using a RB-C2 140w 965BE

It looked very promising indeed and the HSF looks like it can actually do something worthwhile.
In reality, at least for me, it does jack sh1t.
At idle, it sits at 43c (was 47c) in Windows. Under full load PRIOR to me replacing the Thermal Paste, it would go over 62c and then shut down :eek:
Replaced the Thermal Paste & now the temps (both stock & current mild OC) do not exceed 60c - which is still too much :wtf:
Problem is mainly two-fold: my location (it's always warm where I live & summer hasn't quite started to bite yet) & my Antec P182se simply cannot push enough air through, despite the 5x120mm fans running full-pelt all the time...
The 550BE I had just prior to this X4, never got this hot (but then it never performed quite as well either ;)), even when OCd to the max, with huge voltage increases.

So, in short, this HSF, for me at least, sucks the big one sideways and not pleasantly either :shadedshu

[cdawall]

It looked very promising indeed and the HSF looks like it can actually do something worthwhile.
In reality, at least for me, it does jack sh1t.
At idle, it sits at 43c (was 47c) in Windows. Under full load PRIOR to me replacing the Thermal Paste, it would go over 62c and then shut down :eek:
Replaced the Thermal Paste & now the temps (both stock & current mild OC) do not exceed 60c - which is still too much :wtf:
Problem is mainly two-fold: my location (it's always warm where I live & summer hasn't quite started to bite yet) & my Antec P182se simply cannot push enough air through, despite the 5x120mm fans running full-pelt all the time...
The 550BE I had just prior to this X4, never got this hot (but then it never performed quite as well either ;)), even when OCd to the max, with huge voltage increases.

So, in short, this HSF, for me at least, sucks the big one sideways and not pleasantly either :shadedshu

i'm in houston i know what heat is and the stock cooler still works for me had several chips using that cooler without any heat issues it honestly sounds like either the wiring in the case is blocking airflow or you got a messed up cooler

[Kei]

I agree, the stock HSF has always done well by my standards. Idle temps are 'fairly" close to that of my normal aftermarket coolers (Xiggy S963/S1283/Cooler Master V8), and the 100% load temps are not too bad either depending on voltage levels. As long as voltage stays lower than 1.45v roughly the temps have been good.

I usually use the stock setup for a day or two just to see how well the processor works with it, and to get used to the processors habits which is easier than just breaking out a huge cooler. :D

Once I'm done with the stock units I either shelve them for sale later with the processor, or use them as upgrades for systems that I build that are dual core models. They work very nicely in that environment. :rockout:

Definitely sounds like you got a bad unit. :(

Kei

[jjFarking]

i'm in houston i know what heat is and the stock cooler still works for me had several chips using that cooler without any heat issues it honestly sounds like either the wiring in the case is blocking airflow or you got a messed up cooler

Already redid the wiring (what I could do anyways) for that exact reason, to no avail.
I kinda figured what you just stated as well; that the cooler itself is dodgy as :ohwell:

[cdawall]

Already redid the wiring (what I could do anyways) for that exact reason, to no avail.
I kinda figured what you just stated as well; that the cooler itself is dodgy as :ohwell:

is the mounting on it ok? i had issues with one or two back in the day that its mount was monkey'd up

[jjFarking]

is the mounting on it ok? i had issues with one or two back in the day that its mount was monkey'd up

Yeah mate.. First thing I checked :p
Been building systems for over 2 decades, so I got to experience some of the lovely inventions us end-users beta trial for all the camps out there :banghead:

Gonna strip it all down again tonight & remove what I can from the case. Short of lapping the CPU/HSF, I'm guessing getting a new after-market HSF is simply what is required, followed by a new case with much better airflow - dust intake notwithstanding ;)

Cheers for that :)

[TheMailMan78]

Its running upwards of 60C... Quite a bit too warm for my tastes so I've backed down to 3600..

Should be able to swing a water loop in a few weeks though to really be able to push it a bit more. :)

Well damn. Thats not to bad. I would hit 60c under a stock cooler when I set it to 3600 in about 30 seconds. Hell even with my new cooler I hit 55c after an hour. Where do you live? Somewhere arctic?

the stock cooler is one of the better coolers made....what complaints do you have for it because every single review on the X4 965 raves about that cooler be the best AMD cooler out there. did you forget this chip tops the charts on wattage?

oh and look up some posts i got 4.2ghz on that stock cooler using a RB-C2 140w 965BE

That cant be the same cooler as the one on the 955.

[cdawall]

Well damn. Thats not to bad. I would hit 60c under a stock cooler when I set it to 3600 in about 30 seconds. Hell even with my new cooler I hit 55c after an hour. Where do you live? Somewhere arctic?



That cant be the same cooler as the one on the 955.

its a smidge different

[p_o_s_pc]

what is a SAFE 24/7 NB voltage for a AII X2? I know its not a PII but its based on one so i thought you guys could help me out

[TheMailMan78]

This is the one that came with my 955. Whats the difference?

http://www.ngohq.com/attachments/overclocking-cooling-and-modding/2017d1248382645-recomend-a-am2-am3-cooler-cool_amd_phenom_black_edition_heatsink_fan.jpg

[cdawall]

This is the one that came with my 955. Whats the difference?

http://www.ngohq.com/attachments/overclocking-cooling-and-modding/2017d1248382645-recomend-a-am2-am3-cooler-cool_amd_phenom_black_edition_heatsink_fan.jpg

http://techreport.com/r.x/phenom-ii-x4-955/stock-hsf.jpg

thats the 965 cooler the base has a different design, and the heat pipes are longer, the fan pushes more air etc.

[Kei]

Gonna strip it all down again tonight & remove what I can from the case. Short of lapping the CPU/HSF.......followed by a new case with much better airflow

Those were my immediate thoughts when I read your original post. Since you obviously have system building experience, I figured that maybe the cooler was a bad unit (bad fan or terrible bottom surface area), or your case was very limited in airflow.

I'm curious what the cooler would do if you did actually lap it. I did that for the stock cooler for the Phenom 9850BE and it made a nice difference. As usual, the stock coolers are far from optimized surface area wise which we all know makes a large difference in temperatures depending on the surface area condition.

I'm probably going to be picking up some more sandpaper to lap my PII 955 tomorrow since it's definitely in need of some work to get an optimal surface. :)

Kei

[TheMailMan78]

http://techreport.com/r.x/phenom-ii-x4-955/stock-hsf.jpg

thats the 965 cooler the base has a different design, and the heat pipes are longer, the fan pushes more air etc.

Thats an aftermarket cooler.

[Kei]

what is a SAFE 24/7 NB voltage for a AII X2...

I personally don't use anything higher than 1.30v for the NB, especially for a 24/7 clock. The returns I believe are diminished by the extra heat and stress on the system. Stock on the PII's (probably the same for the AII's is 1.100v, and I try to keep things between 1.1-1.25v as a good compromise for heat/power consumption/speed/wear on the system. :toast:

If you're needing more volts that 1.30 to get a clock, that probably means that the clock isn't really going to work out for you anyway. Do a few tests at various clocks from 2.2-3.0Ghz (if you can get that high) and see what voltages you need in order to get them fairly stable. If one of those clocks takes a large jump then you have an idea of where the cons are greater than the pros. :)

On my old motherboard (M3A32-MVP) I could do 3Ghz no problem on the Northbridge with 1.30v and could boot it and run as low as 1.27v. On my new motherboard (M4A78T-E) I can no longer hit 3Ghz it seems without doing more tweaking or adding more voltage. On this board I can hit 2.8Ghz without problems and boot that as low as 1.25v and run...but further than that takes much more effort so it's just not worth it/smart.

Kei

[cdawall]

Thats an aftermarket cooler.

no its not its the one that comes in the box with the phenom 965BE i have one sitting a foot away from me AVC is the company that makes AMD's coolers thats why there sticker is on that fan its the press release sample off some website

[TheMailMan78]

no its not its the one that comes in the box with the phenom 965BE i have one sitting a foot away from me AVC is the company that makes AMD's coolers thats why there sticker is on that fan its the press release sample off some website

Hmm. I wonder why its so much better.

[cdawall]

Hmm. I wonder why its so much better.

longer heatpipes, fin design is different, fan moves more air, heatpipes are embedded then soldered into copper bottom, copper bottom has different design

basically it was a complete redesign the cooler you are using has been around since the opterons started using it in the socket 939 days its a little bit outdated this is a big refresh on it.

[p_o_s_pc]

I personally don't use anything higher than 1.30v for the NB, especially for a 24/7 clock. The returns I believe are diminished by the extra heat and stress on the system. Stock on the PII's (probably the same for the AII's is 1.100v, and I try to keep things between 1.1-1.25v as a good compromise for heat/power consumption/speed/wear on the system. :toast:

If you're needing more volts that 1.30 to get a clock, that probably means that the clock isn't really going to work out for you anyway. Do a few tests at various clocks from 2.2-3.0Ghz (if you can get that high) and see what voltages you need in order to get them fairly stable. If one of those clocks takes a large jump then you have an idea of where the cons are greater than the pros. :)

Kei

I can bench at 3ghz NB speed @1.37v but i run it at 1.20v@2580 do you think thats a decent speed or should i push it more?

[TheMailMan78]

longer heatpipes, fin design is different, fan moves more air, heatpipes are embedded then soldered into copper bottom, copper bottom has different design

basically it was a complete redesign the cooler you are using has been around since the opterons started using it in the socket 939 days its a little bit outdated this is a big refresh on it.

Thanks you sir. THATS what I wanted to know. :toast:

I upgraded to a SpinQ anyway.

[Kei]

I can bench at 3ghz NB speed @1.37v but i run it at 1.20v@2580 do you think thats a decent speed or should i push it more?

I'd say that's plenty especially for 24/7 use. I've not tried anything higher than 1.30v on this motherboard as I just got it a few days ago. My old board though did 3Ghz benchable for looong runs at 1.30v which was awesome!

I'm still trying to get used to this new board so I'm learning all over again. :)

Kei

[p_o_s_pc]

I'd say that's plenty especially for 24/7 use. I've not tried anything higher than 1.30v on this motherboard as I just got it a few days ago. My old board though did 3Ghz benchable for looong runs at 1.30v which was awesome!

I'm still trying to get used to this new board so I'm learning all over again. :)

Kei

i just got my board a few days ago also and the CPU not much longer then a week :laugh: so i had to learn all over again too.:) i can't bench or even get into windows with 3ghz NB@1.3v but i can bench all day at 3.9ghz@1.56v CPU 3ghz NB@1.37v

[Kei]

Got curious again today....I've now installed a Corsair H50 in place of the Cooler Master V8 that I was using (which was in place of the Xigga S-1283). I know that some of you (fullinfusion :p lol) will immediately try to stone me for not going full blown water setup...but I'm a big fan of air cooling and I just couldn't stop my curiosity of one of the all-in-one water cooling setups.

I stumbled upon a thread over at xtremesystems and they were talking about the Boreas TEC unit so I checked a review of the beast...that took me to youtube which took me to looking at the CoolIT Domino (no I wouldn't buy it lol)...which took me to the CoolIT Freezone....and then the CoolIT Eliminator....AND FINALLY ended up stumbling accidently across the Corsair H50.

I heard really good things about it especially in comparison to the other all in a box coolers. Checked out TPU (of course) to see if anyone has used it before and the thoughts, read about a billion other reviews, then saw that Best Buy was selling them for $60 and had some in stock. Meh...it's $60 and I can always return it anyway lol.

Funny thing, when I was getting in line a guy walked up right behind me.....with an H50 in hand....told me it was to cool his *clears throat* Phenom II 965 :D

Good to see AMD is doing great again :rockout:

Anyway I suppose you wanna know how terrible the cooler is of course. Well the waterblock surface is 'finger smooth' but of course will need some sandpaper work no doubt to get a proper surface, but so does my processor. Everything feels pretty good and the lines are rather nice actually which was slighly suprising though the reviews said they were great lines especially for an all in one box cooler.

I didn't bother to set it up like Corsair recommends with the exhaust area being the intake for the radiator...not a chance. Instead I took the stock fan and mounted it as an exhaust/pull fan to the radiator and took my beloved Scythe 120mm 110cfm fan and mounted it as the push fan so I have a nice push/pull setup going. I've got the Scythe being fan controlled so it's not going at a crazy speed making noise, the Corsair fan is blowing it's full rpm level at ~ 1650-1700rpm. Max speed on the Scythe is ~2050-2100rpm when it's fully blowing.

Before uninstalling the Cooler Master V8 I had to do a quick 10 minute stress test with OCCT to get a base reading to compare against the new cooler. When I got home I did the samething with the Corsair (as close as possible). I couldn't run the literal exact same system settings as the stuff hasn't had time to actually setup so I know I can't get the same overclock yet. I made it the same cpu/nb/ram clocks of course, but had to change voltages just a little (more) to make sure all was perfectly stable with it only being installed for 10-15 minutes total time before the test lol.

Temp wise...damn I wasn't expect that at all. With both systems rocking the super silent settings of my daily setup the Cooler Master V8 gave me 45C at the cores under the 100% load temp. The Corsair gave me 40C...and that was with more voltage for both the cpu and nb!?!

Sweet so far I'd say...we'll see what happens as things go on. I'm curious to see what happens with highly overclocked settings. The tests were run at 3.2Ghz cpu @ 1.30v (1.32v for H50) 2.6Ghz NB @ 1.20v (1.30v for H50 to be safe) and 1333Mhz ram 1.8v 7-7-7 (stock settings). Both coolers used the fan for cooling and the same silent setting as well. The Corsair used the stock fan as it's exhaust and the Cooler Master used it's stock fan as it's exhaust (fan controlled to the same level as the Corsair roughly).

Okay I'm done now happy new year to you guys out havin fun....don't drink too much, and I'll see you when we all get back. :toast:

Kei

[fullinfusion]

haha Kei!!! good one lol! I see you went quieter than STFU mode! I cant complaine a single bit about what you have bro!

I hear nothing but good things about the Corsair cooler! and I wanna see some clocks bro!!! CP has a C3 965 coming this weekend so we have some time to work on our clocks.

And happy new year to you all also :toast::respect::respect::respect::respect::respec t::respect::respect::respect::respect::respect::re spect::respect::respect::respect::respect::respect :

[Kei]

haha Kei!!! good one lol! I see you went quieter than STFU mode! I cant complaine a single bit about what you have bro!

I hear nothing but good things about the Corsair cooler! and I wanna see some clocks bro!!! CP has a C3 965 coming this weekend so we have some time to work on our clocks..


LOL, the noise level is roughly the same since i'm using the same fan on the Corsair as I did the V8. It does produce a slightly different sound which makes it have just a little smoother pitch.

Temp wise so far I'm very impressed by what this cooler can do with only a 120mm radiator. I'm pretty confident that the temps will be a little better once the water block base and my processor get lapped. Right now like I said, the water block itself is 'smooth to the finger', but that hardly means it's SMOOTH and you can easily see the machine work done to it...it's gonna need some work. I didn't bother to break out a razor blade to see how flat it really is...didn't wanna start off on a bad note. :p

My processor as well is definitely not flat and needs some work which will help temps out quite a bit. The center is definitely lower than the sides so I know the cooling is not optimized right now, but I'll pick up some more sandpaper soon.

So far the Corsair H50 is a good investment, it seems like I might actually sell my Cooler Master V8 though it's still a monster...I just wanted to play with one instead read the reviews on it. :D

This H50 would have been KILLER on my old DDR2 setup since I wouldn't have to compromise for the ram speed as much as I do with my DDR3 setup so far. Then again I'm just learning DDR3 setups so I'll see what I can really do after some time.

Wonder what the next 'curious buy' will be. :o

Kei

[mlee49]

LOL, the noise level is roughly the same since i'm using the same fan on the Corsair as I did the V8. It does produce a slightly different sound which makes it have just a little smoother pitch.

Temp wise so far I'm very impressed by what this cooler can do with only a 120mm radiator. I'm pretty confident that the temps will be a little better once the water block base and my processor get lapped. Right now like I said, the water block itself is 'smooth to the finger', but that hardly means it's SMOOTH and you can easily see the machine work done to it...it's gonna need some work. I didn't bother to break out a razor blade to see how flat it really is...didn't wanna start off on a bad note. :p

My processor as well is definitely not flat and needs some work which will help temps out quite a bit. The center is definitely lower than the sides so I know the cooling is not optimized right now, but I'll pick up some more sandpaper soon.

So far the Corsair H50 is a good investment, it seems like I might actually sell my Cooler Master V8 though it's still a monster...I just wanted to play with one instead read the reviews on it. :D

This H50 would have been KILLER on my old DDR2 setup since I wouldn't have to compromise for the ram speed as much as I do with my DDR3 setup so far. Then again I'm just learning DDR3 setups so I'll see what I can really do after some time.

Wonder what the next 'curious buy' will be. :o

Kei

Last post of the DECADE!!!!!!!

[(FIH) The Don]

yeah well i'm about 6 hours+ ahead of you guys, så i am from the FUTURE fuckers

[mlee49]

Not according to TPU, GOD amongst all

[(FIH) The Don]

STFU dude!!! i AM from the Future, believe me :cool:,

i have a Thuban 6core.....not:shadedshu

[Kei]

Last post of the DECADE!!!!!!!

:rockout: I totally didn't notice that before! I believe that makes me approximately 10% cooler than anyone else here. :p

Kei

[mlee49]

AT LEAST! Great work Kei!

[Chicken Patty]

Got curious again today....I've now installed a Corsair H50 in place of the Cooler Master V8 that I was using (which was in place of the Xigga S-1283). I know that some of you (fullinfusion :p lol) will immediately try to stone me for not going full blown water setup...but I'm a big fan of air cooling and I just couldn't stop my curiosity of one of the all-in-one water cooling setups.

I stumbled upon a thread over at xtremesystems and they were talking about the Boreas TEC unit so I checked a review of the beast...that took me to youtube which took me to looking at the CoolIT Domino (no I wouldn't buy it lol)...which took me to the CoolIT Freezone....and then the CoolIT Eliminator....AND FINALLY ended up stumbling accidently across the Corsair H50.

I heard really good things about it especially in comparison to the other all in a box coolers. Checked out TPU (of course) to see if anyone has used it before and the thoughts, read about a billion other reviews, then saw that Best Buy was selling them for $60 and had some in stock. Meh...it's $60 and I can always return it anyway lol.

Funny thing, when I was getting in line a guy walked up right behind me.....with an H50 in hand....told me it was to cool his *clears throat* Phenom II 965 :D

Good to see AMD is doing great again :rockout:

Anyway I suppose you wanna know how terrible the cooler is of course. Well the waterblock surface is 'finger smooth' but of course will need some sandpaper work no doubt to get a proper surface, but so does my processor. Everything feels pretty good and the lines are rather nice actually which was slighly suprising though the reviews said they were great lines especially for an all in one box cooler.

I didn't bother to set it up like Corsair recommends with the exhaust area being the intake for the radiator...not a chance. Instead I took the stock fan and mounted it as an exhaust/pull fan to the radiator and took my beloved Scythe 120mm 110cfm fan and mounted it as the push fan so I have a nice push/pull setup going. I've got the Scythe being fan controlled so it's not going at a crazy speed making noise, the Corsair fan is blowing it's full rpm level at ~ 1650-1700rpm. Max speed on the Scythe is ~2050-2100rpm when it's fully blowing.

Before uninstalling the Cooler Master V8 I had to do a quick 10 minute stress test with OCCT to get a base reading to compare against the new cooler. When I got home I did the samething with the Corsair (as close as possible). I couldn't run the literal exact same system settings as the stuff hasn't had time to actually setup so I know I can't get the same overclock yet. I made it the same cpu/nb/ram clocks of course, but had to change voltages just a little (more) to make sure all was perfectly stable with it only being installed for 10-15 minutes total time before the test lol.

Temp wise...damn I wasn't expect that at all. With both systems rocking the super silent settings of my daily setup the Cooler Master V8 gave me 45C at the cores under the 100% load temp. The Corsair gave me 40C...and that was with more voltage for both the cpu and nb!?!

Sweet so far I'd say...we'll see what happens as things go on. I'm curious to see what happens with highly overclocked settings. The tests were run at 3.2Ghz cpu @ 1.30v (1.32v for H50) 2.6Ghz NB @ 1.20v (1.30v for H50 to be safe) and 1333Mhz ram 1.8v 7-7-7 (stock settings). Both coolers used the fan for cooling and the same silent setting as well. The Corsair used the stock fan as it's exhaust and the Cooler Master used it's stock fan as it's exhaust (fan controlled to the same level as the Corsair roughly).

Okay I'm done now happy new year to you guys out havin fun....don't drink too much, and I'll see you when we all get back. :toast:

Kei

Kei, I am so glad you posted this man. I have been looking at this for a while but I didn't budge because it would fail cooling the i7. But now that I have a 965 heading my way I gave it a 2nd thought. Glad to know it's serving you good. However, I might take my water setup a little bit more than the H50 is. But in case I decide not to, the H50 seems like a great choice! Thanks for sharing this info. BTW, happy new year dude :toast:

[crazyeyesreaper]

well im passing on a 965 so unless someones giving them away guess ill be waiting another full year to upgrade as i broke down and im going PS3 after all lets face it $140 for a PS3 with a game and a warranty im all over that like white on rice

[Kei]

Kei, I am so glad you posted this man. I have been looking at this for a while but I didn't budge because it would fail cooling the i7. But now that I have a 965 heading my way I gave it a 2nd thought. Glad to know it's serving you good. However, I might take my water setup a little bit more than the H50 is. But in case I decide not to, the H50 seems like a great choice! Thanks for sharing this info. BTW, happy new year dude :toast:

*cough* I bought the H50 BECAUSE I saw what it did on an i7 setup lol. This youtube review was the final push over the edge that sent me to Best Buy to just try it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx5usoClfDs&feature=related

In the video a 4Ghz @ 1.3v i7 was used to gauge it's temperature performance, since i7's and other Intels run FAAAAAAR hotter than anything AMD the results from that video gave me what info I needed to take the plunge. In the video he only ran it setup like Corsair recommends that you do (using the rear exhaust fan area as an INTAKE for the radiator) and using another fan in the case as exhaust like the top or something. I just wasn't down with that idea though I could've easily had a fan turned around to become the new exhaust...heck I even have a top fan as exhaust already so I didn't need to do anything really. I still didn't care because it just isn't how I wanted to set it up.

I set mine up still in the rear exhaust fan position, but in a push/pull setup that blows OUTSIDE the case not inwards. I may even get better temps if I were to turn it around like they said...but I'm good....and stubborn right now. I'll test it later that way. :D

This thing so far works awesome and will be better once it's lapped for sure. The best part is that I now have room in my case again since there isn't a Xiggy or V8 in there now lol. Since you've already got the Xiggy and it's lapped I wouldn't rush out immediately to see how it does....well okay I'm a curious sort so yea I would lol. It's $60 and if you don't like it just return it to the store.

I don't recommend mounting one of these without using a push/pull setup though especially if you already have a high performance cooler anyway.

And happy new year to you too! :toast:

Kei

[cdawall]

nice little coolers i had the coolit version back before the corsair was released it worked pretty good with a celeron@1.7v had a pair of 100+ CFM fans in push/pull on it

[Kei]

Yea, I'm very pleased so far with this cooler. I had looked at the Domino ALC, but I just couldn't bring myself to go with it because of the reviews and something just told me not to.

The biggest reason I wanted to try this thing out (besides curiosity) is because I want to get a smaller case that's silenced. If I kept using my Xiggy or the V8 cooler (both of which are amazing) then there is no way I would buy another case for fear of them not quite fitting. Right now it looks as though I'll be okay if I get a smaller case, and still use this cooler for good temps.

I don't know the flow rate on the stock Corsair fan but it spins at ~1700 rpm max speed, my Scythe which is the push fan runs at 110cfm when on full blast. I'm certain the Corsair isn't near that level so I may get a fan controller and have double 110cfm fans on it. Should make for good temps when I get that urge to bench. :rockout:

Kei

[cdawall]

Yea, I'm very pleased so far with this cooler. I had looked at the Domino ALC, but I just couldn't bring myself to go with it because of the reviews and something just told me not to.

The biggest reason I wanted to try this thing out (besides curiosity) is because I want to get a smaller case that's silenced. If I kept using my Xiggy or the V8 cooler (both of which are amazing) then there is no way I would buy another case for fear of them not quite fitting. Right now it looks as though I'll be okay if I get a smaller case, and still use this cooler for good temps.

I don't know the flow rate on the stock Corsair fan but it spins at ~1700 rpm max speed, my Scythe which is the push fan runs at 110cfm when on full blast. I'm certain the Corsair isn't near that level so I may get a fan controller and have double 110cfm fans on it. Should make for good temps when I get that urge to bench. :rockout:

Kei


the domino was garbage from what i saw the v8 out did it. the coolit i had was an OEM peace that i found here for like $50 cooled better than any air cooler i had so it was pretty nice IMO wish i would have kept it TBH could have thrown it on my P965 mobo and made a folder....

[Kei]

Yea, I haven't heard a single good thing about the Domino that I remember except that it saves space I suppose. The V8 is an awesome cooler I must say which is why I haven't placed it for sale just yet...

This Corsair is a nice way to setup a no very low/none maintence HTPC or folding machine. I'm going to use it in my main rig fulltime for now and see how she goes. You can always hit up a Best Buy and pick one up for $60 before they're all gone.... ;)

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

*cough* I bought the H50 BECAUSE I saw what it did on an i7 setup lol. This youtube review was the final push over the edge that sent me to Best Buy to just try it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx5usoClfDs&feature=related

In the video a 4Ghz @ 1.3v i7 was used to gauge it's temperature performance, since i7's and other Intels run FAAAAAAR hotter than anything AMD the results from that video gave me what info I needed to take the plunge. In the video he only ran it setup like Corsair recommends that you do (using the rear exhaust fan area as an INTAKE for the radiator) and using another fan in the case as exhaust like the top or something. I just wasn't down with that idea though I could've easily had a fan turned around to become the new exhaust...heck I even have a top fan as exhaust already so I didn't need to do anything really. I still didn't care because it just isn't how I wanted to set it up.

I set mine up still in the rear exhaust fan position, but in a push/pull setup that blows OUTSIDE the case not inwards. I may even get better temps if I were to turn it around like they said...but I'm good....and stubborn right now. I'll test it later that way. :D

This thing so far works awesome and will be better once it's lapped for sure. The best part is that I now have room in my case again since there isn't a Xiggy or V8 in there now lol. Since you've already got the Xiggy and it's lapped I wouldn't rush out immediately to see how it does....well okay I'm a curious sort so yea I would lol. It's $60 and if you don't like it just return it to the store.

I don't recommend mounting one of these without using a push/pull setup though especially if you already have a high performance cooler anyway.

And happy new year to you too! :toast:

Kei

Meh, I haven't seen good results of anybody on here using them on i7's. I wanted to really push my i7 (4.7ghz) so I knew that wasn't going to cut it. Regardless, that's history now so I might give it a shot. I'll hit you up when I get it so you can give me some tips on the installation.

[fullinfusion]

sounds like someone needs a rad back? :rockout:

[Chicken Patty]

sounds like someone needs a rad back? :rockout:

Naw dude it's all yours. If I get the H50 I won't need it. If I get my own customs setup, I'll be getting a single 140mm so I won't have use for the one I sent you:) IT's all yours buddy

[Kei]

If you're looking to go up to 4.7Ghz then I must say make sure you use a push/pull type of setup. I don't know how the single fan solution would work at a clock that hight, but I DO know that's a HUGE task to ask any cooler to do lol.

With a push/pull I think you have a good chance to be able to hit that. I did a quick test at 3.9Ghz earlier on my PII 955 and loaded up 1.5v (more than I actually need) and the temps were still easily good when I ran HyperPi 4M test with the fans on full speed. Max temp was only 41C during the test which is pretty awesome I think.

I'll try the same test with OCCT or LinX and see what happens...if it passes...my ram is garbage for overclocking purposes lol (runs very well at stock though :p ).

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

If you're looking to go up to 4.7Ghz then I must say make sure you use a push/pull type of setup. I don't know how the single fan solution would work at a clock that hight, but I DO know that's a HUGE task to ask any cooler to do lol.

With a push/pull I think you have a good chance to be able to hit that. I did a quick test at 3.9Ghz earlier on my PII 955 and loaded up 1.5v (more than I actually need) and the temps were still easily good when I ran HyperPi 4M test with the fans on full speed. Max temp was only 41C during the test which is pretty awesome I think.

I'll try the same test with OCCT or LinX and see what happens...if it passes...my ram is garbage for overclocking purposes lol (runs very well at stock though :p ).

Kei

I did that on AIR :) But yeah, seems like push and pull helps these kits a lot then. But I might just got with a custom setup with a 140mm rad since my exhaust fan can either be a 120mm or a 140mm. You got any pics of the setup Kei?

[Chicken Patty]

Hey Kei, I actually found this interesting. This dude got better temps when pulling air into the case, rather than exhausting.

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/621879-h50-fan-arrangement-temp-benchmarks.html

[cdawall]

Hey Kei, I actually found this interesting. This dude got better temps when pulling air into the case, rather than exhausting.

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/621879-h50-fan-arrangement-temp-benchmarks.html

makes sense cool air in from the outside of the case

[Chicken Patty]

makes sense cool air in from the outside of the case

Yeah, but then where does the case exhaust from? If you have a top exhaust fan then at least it's something, but what if your case doesn't? Maybe the CPU might run cooler, but everything else might run hotter.


I was just looking to see how much a custom WC kit would run from scratch and dammit, it's just soo expensive! I think H50 is a winner here.

OR

Perhaps I can buy this. I do have a Mega laying around doing nothing now :D

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/image/9094/cpu-pro-04.jpg/cpu-pro-04/Prolimatech_AM2_AM2_AM3_Megahalem_Retention_Mount_ Adapter_Kit_ARM-01.html?id=JGi4dhRF

[Kei]

Yea, I know it's better and that's what Corsair even recommends. I'm in the middle of swapping around the fans now so I can see what the difference will be myself. I'm only gonna swap the fans on the radiator for now and let the other fans do the same as they were for the time being. I've still got my 80mm fan up top that I added to the case (cheap cut and plexiglass job lol) for exhaust so it'll be getting taxed for sure.

Let you know what I come up with in a few minutes.

Kei

[Kei]

Yeah, but then where does the case exhaust from? If you have a top exhaust fan then at least it's something, but what if your case doesn't? Maybe the CPU might run cooler, but everything else might run hotter.


I was just looking to see how much a custom WC kit would run from scratch and dammit, it's just soo expensive! I think H50 is a winner here.

When you set things up so that it blows inward all you have to do is reverse another fan (like the front fan) to become the new exhaust. It's the same thing as the rear exhaust just in a different position. Airflow may still not be 100% the same, but it will be close.

Kei

[Kei]

Haven't run the test yet, just had to say MAN I forgot how loud the Scythe 110cfm fan can be! I've got the push/pull setup going again, but this time blowing inward so the Scythe is now the intake and the Corsair is the pull fan.

The Scythe is blowing now at ~2200rpm into the radiator and the Corsair is blowing ~ 1600rpm on the other side. Anybody else think this is as unbalanced as I do right now. :roll:

DAMN....this fan is an unholy thing...I feel tainted just having it around. lol

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

Haven't run the test yet, just had to say MAN I forgot how loud the Scythe 110cfm fan can be! I've got the push/pull setup going again, but this time blowing inward so the Scythe is now the intake and the Corsair is the pull fan.

The Scythe is blowing now at ~2200rpm into the radiator and the Corsair is blowing ~ 1600rpm on the other side. Anybody else think this is as unbalanced as I do right now. :roll:

DAMN....this fan is an unholy thing...I feel tainted just having it around. lol

Kei

:laugh::laugh: Run the test you pansy! :p

[Kei]

Okay results from the test show that using my ORIGINAL push/pull setup gave me the best temps.

Low fan speed setting - 48.5C max 32C low
Hi fan speed outward - 44.5C max 29.7C low
Hi fan speed inward - 45.2C max 30C low

The results are very close for the inward/outward test, however the outward test at the end was only at 31C (started the test at 30C). The outward test was already in the 29C range by the end and started out at 36C. Both test saw drops at their start points while I was doing whatever...but the inward test saw a drop from 32C --> 30C once I stopped moving and the outward test saw a drop from 36C ---> 31.5C almost instantaneously.

My vote goes to having the fans blow OUTWARD if you're in a push/pull configuration, and having it blow INWARD if you're only using the single stock fan.

Another note, with my 80mm fan blowing as the sole exhaust in the system during the test case temps were....yea. During the outward fan test case temps were roughly 16-17C, during the inward fan test case temps rose to 21-22C. If you have things going inward make sure you have at least a 120mm exhaust fan somewhere, or switch more than one fan to an exhaust setup.

I did not switch any of my fans around so the only exhaust was the 80mm top fan (and the psu fan of course which is I think 140mm). I did not want to switch around my front 120mm fan nor take switch around my 80mm side fan that blows on my ram.

If you have adequate intake fans then I think having the outward fan setup is a very good deal as the overall system will be cooler. I could not use my side 120mm fan with the Corsair H50, though I could not fit it with my Cooler Master V8 either. That fan was not a stock thing it was added while I had my Xiggy S-1283 and custom placed so it did not interfere, so I can't knock either cooler for it not fitting. If I could use that fan (relocate it about 15mm right) then I believe the outward temps would be even better since it would be an intake straight for the push fan.

All these tests were done at 3.8Ghz @ 1.50v to ensure 100% stability with all setups. I know that's high volts, but I wanted to know how this thing handles heat not how high I can/cannot clock with it lol. It seems that it handles heat very well, and I don't hesitate to invest in one.

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

Okay results from the test show that using my ORIGINAL push/pull setup gave me the best temps.

Low fan speed setting - 48.5C max 32C low
Hi fan speed outward - 44.5C max 29.7C low
Hi fan speed inward - 45.2C max 30C low

The results are very close for the inward/outward test, however the outward test at the end was only at 31C (started the test at 30C). The outward test was already in the 29C range by the end and started out at 36C. Both test saw drops at their start points while I was doing whatever...but the inward test saw a drop from 32C --> 30C once I stopped moving and the outward test saw a drop from 36C ---> 31.5C almost instantaneously.

My vote goes to having the fans blow OUTWARD if you're in a push/pull configuration, and having it blow INWARD if you're only using the single stock fan.

Another note, with my 80mm fan blowing as the sole exhaust in the system during the test case temps were....yea. During the outward fan test case temps were roughly 16-17C, during the inward fan test case temps rose to 21-22C. If you have things going inward make sure you have at least a 120mm exhaust fan somewhere, or switch more than one fan to an exhaust setup.

I did not switch any of my fans around so the only exhaust was the 80mm top fan (and the psu fan of course which is I think 140mm). I did not want to switch around my front 120mm fan nor take switch around my 80mm side fan that blows on my ram.

If you have adequate intake fans then I think having the outward fan setup is a very good deal as the overall system will be cooler. I could not use my side 120mm fan with the Corsair H50, though I could not fit it with my Cooler Master V8 either. That fan was not a stock thing it was added while I had my Xiggy S-1283 and custom placed so it did not interfere, so I can't knock either cooler for it not fitting. If I could use that fan (relocate it about 15mm right) then I believe the outward temps would be even better since it would be an intake straight for the push fan.

All these tests were done at 3.8Ghz @ 1.50v to ensure 100% stability with all setups. I know that's high volts, but I wanted to know how this thing handles heat not how high I can/cannot clock with it lol. It seems that it handles heat very well, and I don't hesitate to invest in one.

Kei

Thanks a lot for the details Kei, this is indeed very very helpful. I have a 230mm fan exhausting up top so blowing inward to me shouldn't be all that bad. I guess I will run a few tests of my own when I get the setup running :toast:

[Kei]

lol, I AM going to end up taking mine back though and putting my V8 back on the system however.....not because the cooler is bad (cuz honestly it's amazing!)....but because I knew better and I was supposed to be buying some damn ram but I got curious.

I need ram badly...I've been using some basic DDR3 1333Mhz cas7 1.8v (bleh) and only have 2Gb. It can do 6-7-6 timings and be stable as long as everything else is stock....but try to overclock anything else and it's horrible. I can run the system at 3.6Ghz @ 1.35v with 2.4Ghz northbridge and have no issues during stressing...as long as the ram is turned down. The moment I even THINK about running it at 1333Mhz even with 9-9-9-29-40 timings it locks up with the quickness. I can barely get 3.2Ghz stable at 1.30v with the ram running it's 7-7-7 timings...but with the ram knocked down I can do 3.2Ghz at 1.23v And yes I even tried it with the northbridge on higher volts and stock 2Ghz speed.

I knew better, but meh...I wanted to play. Crazy enough the ram can't even hit 1400Mhz at cas9 with 1.9v (not even 2T) which I refuse to go over for risk of hurting the ram.

Kei

[Kei]

Thanks a lot for the details Kei, this is indeed very very helpful. I have a 230mm fan exhausting up top so blowing inward to me shouldn't be all that bad. I guess I will run a few tests of my own when I get the setup running :toast:

Oh yea, with a huge fan like that exhausting you won't have any issues and will likely have even better results than I did.

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

lol, I AM going to end up taking mine back though and putting my V8 back on the system however.....not because the cooler is bad (cuz honestly it's amazing!)....but because I knew better and I was supposed to be buying some damn ram but I got curious.

I need ram badly...I've been using some basic DDR3 1333Mhz cas7 1.8v (bleh) and only have 2Gb. It can do 6-7-6 timings and be stable as long as everything else is stock....but try to overclock anything else and it's horrible. I can run the system at 3.6Ghz @ 1.35v with 2.4Ghz northbridge and have no issues during stressing...as long as the ram is turned down. The moment I even THINK about running it at 1333Mhz even with 9-9-9-29-40 timings it locks up with the quickness. I can barely get 3.2Ghz stable at 1.30v with the ram running it's 7-7-7 timings...but with the ram knocked down I can do 3.2Ghz at 1.23v And yes I even tried it with the northbridge on higher volts and stock 2Ghz speed.

I knew better, but meh...I wanted to play. Crazy enough the ram can't even hit 1400Mhz at cas9 with 1.9v (not even 2T) which I refuse to go over for risk of hurting the ram.

Kei

Yeah, I mean you still had great temps with the V8 so you'll be fine. If you are going to benefit more from the RAM, then go ahead :)
Oh yea, with a huge fan like that exhausting you won't have any issues and will likely have even better results than I did.

Kei

Yeah, its the one that comes with the case.

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?S=1321&ID=1852#Tab0

[Kei]

Sweet case, I saw one of those at CompUSA the other day. My friend and I stood there in awe at the size of the uber fan :twitch:

The temps with the H50 are definitely better than with the V8....though that doesn't mean much in my case since both temps were easily better than I need right now anyway lol. The ram is absolutely something though that needs to be done as soon as possible, I wish it wasn't Saturday tomorrow so I could have the new stuff tomorrow morning lol. I guess I'll have to wait until Monday and order then since CompUSA doesn't have anything that I deemed worthy of use, but then again not many stores really stock DDR3 good stuff just yet so it's to be expected.

I wouldn't be too surprised if you saw my system specs say something about another Corsair H50 in the near future though. ;)

Kei

[fullinfusion]

Kei your using DDR3 now?
what mobo you using and ya feel like updating your system spec pleaze and thank you lol...

[Chicken Patty]

Sweet case, I saw one of those at CompUSA the other day. My friend and I stood there in awe at the size of the uber fan :twitch:

The temps with the H50 are definitely better than with the V8....though that doesn't mean much in my case since both temps were easily better than I need right now anyway lol. The ram is absolutely something though that needs to be done as soon as possible, I wish it wasn't Saturday tomorrow so I could have the new stuff tomorrow morning lol. I guess I'll have to wait until Monday and order then since CompUSA doesn't have anything that I deemed worthy of use, but then again not many stores really stock DDR3 good stuff just yet so it's to be expected.

I wouldn't be too surprised if you saw my system specs say something about another Corsair H50 in the near future though. ;)

Kei

With some good RAM and a H50 I would love to see what that system can do if pushed a bit bro :toast:

Have you seen the pics in my project log? It's pretty interesting from the beginning, I suggest you check it out and post some feedback bro :) I'm getting my AMD setup tomorrow hopefully, I'll be putting it in there until the next phase of my project.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=108029

Kei your using DDR3 now?
what mobo you using and ya feel like updating your system spec pleaze and thank you lol...

I think, I think he got a Crosshair. Not sure, maybe I'm confusing somebody elses post.


Hey Kei, can the original COrsair fan be swapped out?

[fullinfusion]

With some good RAM and a H50 I would love to see what that system can do if pushed a bit bro :toast:

Have you seen the pics in my project log? It's pretty interesting from the beginning, I suggest you check it out and post some feedback bro :) I'm getting my AMD setup tomorrow hopefully, I'll be putting it in there until the next phase of my project.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=108029



I think, I think he got a Crosshair. Not sure, maybe I'm confusing somebody elses post.


Hey Kei, can the original COrsair fan be swapped out?
That be sweet if Kei is using the CH III :rockout:

[Chicken Patty]

That be sweet if Kei is using the CH III :rockout:

Not sure, I think I saw him post that, but I could be wrong though.

[Kei]

Sadly I'm not on a Crosshair though I picked up a 790GX instead to wait for the 890FX boards to come out and see what they're all about. I can always sell the GX super fast for almost the same price I paid for it. :)

The Corsair fan can be swapped out since it's not a part of the radiator. You can use any fan you want on either side of the radiator. :toast:

I'm back on my V8 now (trying not to look at the temp increase lol) and I'm about to head to the store and the movies. I'll hopefully have some proper OC'able DDR3 on Tuesday depending on where it's coming from when I order it. It'll likely be the G.skill Eco ram since it runs at 1.35v so there it should OC like mad at higher volts from what I've seen. :)

I do keep staring at the Crosshair every other day though on newegg......still don't have that out of my head just yet. ;)

Sorry Full, I hadn't updated my specs yet since I didn't have any good ram and was swapping constantly.

Kei

[Chicken Patty]

Sadly I'm not on a Crosshair though I picked up a 790GX instead to wait for the 890FX boards to come out and see what they're all about. I can always sell the GX super fast for almost the same price I paid for it. :)

The Corsair fan can be swapped out since it's not a part of the radiator. You can use any fan you want on either side of the radiator. :toast:

I'm back on my V8 now (trying not to look at the temp increase lol) and I'm about to head to the store and the movies. I'll hopefully have some proper OC'able DDR3 on Tuesday depending on where it's coming from when I order it. It'll likely be the G.skill Eco ram since it runs at 1.35v so there it should OC like mad at higher volts from what I've seen. :)

I do keep staring at the Crosshair every other day though on newegg......still don't have that out of my head just yet. ;)

Sorry Full, I hadn't updated my specs yet since I didn't have any good ram and was swapping constantly.

Kei

meh indeed I was wrong :banghead:

Good luck on the RAM and enjoy the movie. Also thanks for the info on swapping the fans :toast:

[fullinfusion]

this OCZ Platinum DDR3 ram I picked is sweet.... I'm not sure yet how high it clocks but @ 1.65v at 1680mhz 7.7.7.16.27 1T is fast as a MOTHER %&#$!*.......well you do the math lol... also Kei... Corsair has some sweet ass sticks bro! Im going to pick up some sick low latency Corsair sticks soon, but what I want here in Canada the price is a bit high..... gotta save hehe

[Chicken Patty]

this OCZ Platinum DDR3 ram I picked is sweet.... I'm not sure yet how high it clocks but @ 1.65v at 1680mhz 7.7.7.16.27 1T is fast as a MOTHER %&#$!*.......well you do the math lol... also Kei... Corsair has some sweet ass sticks bro! Im going to pick up some sick low latency Corsair sticks soon, but what I want here in Canada the price is a bit high..... gotta save hehe

To me Corsair is :rockout::rockout:

[BMfan]

^^^have to agree,corsair is awesome.

[fullinfusion]

I ran a Vantage mark and got this score.

I'm not clocking the cpu as much as I'd normally do for marks and instead clocking both 4890's

The one gpu is a XXX XFX 900mhz card and the 2nd is a straight forward XFX 850mhz card...

The latest CCC so far is smoking for me....

Is this score in line for what im running?

http://img.techpowerup.org/100101/today.jpg

[Chicken Patty]

I think that seems pretty good. Beats my 4870c/f score with a higher clocked i7. So I would say you are inline.

[fullinfusion]

I think that seems pretty good. Beats my 4870c/f score with a higher clocked i7. So I would say you are inline.
Thanks bro, Im going for a 19k score but I doubt i can hit it :banghead:

[Chicken Patty]

Why not? Never give up dude, you can do it! You are almost there.

[fullinfusion]

Why not? Never give up dude, you can do it! You are almost there.
haha thanks bro!

I just enabled the Over voltage setting in the bios to ramp up the CPU-NB volts over 1.55v :eek:

let's see what happens..... so far temp is good.... I changed up the radiator fans to a pull from the push....The idle temperature is 32c and benching is 38c so far.... I find having a push seems to cavitate the air to much and doesn't flow air properly through the rad..

[Chicken Patty]

haha thanks bro!

I just enabled the Over voltage setting in the bios to ramp up the CPU-NB volts over 1.55v :eek:

let's see what happens..... so far temp is good.... I changed up the radiator fans to a pull from the push....The idle temperature is 32c and benching is 38c so far.... I find having a push seems to cavitate the air to much and doesn't flow air properly through the rad..

depends on rad and fans used. For my ex water setup Push dropped temps like 5ºc across all cores. Keep us posted on those vantage scores :toast:

[fullinfusion]

depends on rad and fans used. For my ex water setup Push dropped temps like 5ºc across all cores. Keep us posted on those vantage scores :toast:
I will bro, and thanks for the boot in the ass! :D

[fullinfusion]

I just opened the window up in my office to drop the temps down in here dowwwwwwwn, down,,,, dowwwn:eek:.... Im showing a room temp of 7.2c and still dropping. Out side its -27c.... I have a lazer temp pointing device here and I just pointed it at my cat and poor thing is reading 11.1c lol..... cpu is reading 15c at 4.04GHz with a core volt of 1.462.....

following temperature's are as follows
cpu...15c
sb.. ..12c
nb... 13c
mb.... 4c

my damn bic lighter has a hard time lighting a cigarette atm lol....

gpu 1 is running 22c
gpu 2 running 24c
both gpu's are clocked out at 960-1145MHz

[crazyeyesreaper]

damn nice XD seems its still true AMD likes cold temps and with colder temps comes lower voltage

[fullinfusion]

http://img.techpowerup.org/100101/handcold.jpg

cpu is now at 14c

[fullinfusion]

temp update....

cpu... 12c
sb...... 9c
nb.... 11c
mb..... 1c

[aCid888*]

http://img.techpowerup.org/100102/Capture045.jpg

I have decent temps too, apart from my basement is a little warmer than 7'C. :roll:

[fullinfusion]

http://img.techpowerup.org/100102/Capture045.jpg

I have decent temps too, apart from my basement is a little warmer than 7'C. :roll:
haha nice bro!!!! I knew you had sick low temps with those fans..... I cant run HW monitor as it's still lacking support for the Crosshair III mobo.... but you get my drift lol.... Im waiting for a cpu temp of 10c b4 running Vantage

[fullinfusion]

Velvet wafer stop hiding in the back ground and post something dammit lol :D

[fullinfusion]

She's creeping up closer to the 19k Vantage mark but I think it's all she's got!

http://img.techpowerup.org/100102/18246bestyetvantage.jpg

[fullinfusion]

I dont know if its the highest clock I can reach stable or that it's just to damn cold in here.....

I have got the NB Freq stable at this and MAN IT'S FAST AS ......

http://img.techpowerup.org/100102/nbhighestyet.jpg

[Chicken Patty]

Damn that's close Brad. There's gotta be a tweak or two you can do to get to 19k

[crazyeyesreaper]

yea just install a 3dmark friendly driver and bingo lol

[fullinfusion]

yea just install a 3dmark friendly driver and bingo lol
That be cheating like using PhyX bro!!!

[Chicken Patty]

I was once a member of the piss-x club. Not no more though :laugh:

[fullinfusion]

Damn that's close Brad. There's gotta be a tweak or two you can do to get to 19k
I looked at the thermometer and it was showing -1.3c and i had a toque and winter jacket on in here.... fuck that bro I had enough for tonight.... I grabbed the water lines and they were stiff as shit bro! scuse me french ppl :respect:

[fullinfusion]

I was once a member of the piss-x club. Not no more though :laugh:
hahahahahah you remembered bro!!!! hey you want a 4890 to play with? I got a XXX XFX 900mhz gpu you can diddle with if you want

[Chicken Patty]

Yeah -1.3c is pretty cold :laugh:

you have a 3rd 4890?? Are you selling or just lending?

[crazyeyesreaper]

lol dang it all i need is a router so if i get this damn PS3 i can have it fold along side my tower
still wish my 4870x2 wasnt dead id raise my hand to borrow a 4890 to trifire XD

[Chicken Patty]

What happened to the 4870x2?

[fullinfusion]

Yeah -1.3c is pretty cold :laugh:

you have a 3rd 4890?? Are you selling or just lending?
Giving.....thats when I get my 5870 bro...;)
I told ya what comes around goes around bro.... I just need a bit of time to pull shit together

you can have 1 of 2 bro.... a XXX 900mhz gpu or the amd reference 850 model

[crazyeyesreaper]

um lets just say it was heavily overclocked and remember how i said the asrock board was giving me trouble orignially well a power surge fried the 4870x2 bricked it right there had to use onboard gpu for awhile lol

[fullinfusion]

um lets just say it was heavily overclocked and remember how i said the asrock board was giving me trouble originally well a power surge fried the 4870x2 bricked it right there had to use onboard gpu for awhile lol
Dam you poor Americans and your poor hydro connections..... Have you heard of getting a back up UPS power supply?

I got one and it saved my ass while flashing a bios when the power went out!

It's a cheap investment man! :pimp:
heck Crazyeskeaper send it to me... I bet I can get it working :D

[crazyeyesreaper]

i HAD a ups lets just say it failed to do as it was advertised to and i sent the 4870x2 back to newegg 6 months after buying it they still gave me a full refund which is how i got the 2 5850s

all i need is a router so i can put t he PS3 online for folding when i pick it up tomorrow

that or a 965 to get more performance out of these 5850s :roll:

[Chicken Patty]

um lets just say it was heavily overclocked and remember how i said the asrock board was giving me trouble orignially well a power surge fried the 4870x2 bricked it right there had to use onboard gpu for awhile lol

Thats crazy. POwer surge took one of my board/psu once, and it damaged one of mine currently.

Giving.....thats when I get my 5870 bro...;)
I told ya what comes around goes around bro.... I just need a bit of time to pull shit together

you can have 1 of 2 bro.... a XXX 900mhz gpu or the amd reference 850 model
talk to ya on MSN :toast: