The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club [Archive] - Page 35

YautjaLord

Feb 11, 2010, 11:18 PM

remember that it is VERY few if any am2+ boards that will support the new cpu

M3N-HT Deluxe/HDMI, nforce 780a SLI (got 2xGTX 280, until GF100 & Thuban come out :)). BIOS update from ASUSTek - v2803 (supports rev. C2 & C3 955BE & 965BE). Thanx, but i already ahead of what you say by a good mile. (waited for ASUS to release it from end of 2009) Thanx nevertheless & it's true.

Good point. However you never know if things can change, but you do have a very good point.

True, as well.

2all :

Just as promised - here's ScD of me running Vantage in High preset on 3.6GHz with CPU-Z, TaskManager & SpeedFan running as well (& it nevermind if you run Vantage+LinX, or just Vantage - the temp in both CPU tests rising all the way to almost frightening 50-57 degrees C). Pic then :

http://img.techpowerup.org/100211/screendump5.jpg

Enjoy feesting your eyes in it/have a viewing pleasure. :) :rockout:

*EDIT*

Almost forgot : the nicest touch of this CPU's (955BE) HSF ? The bottom of it is copper plate with wide coverage area, not just for "misely" (jk) CPU. Covers the CPU's area+the inner area of HSF mount. But even that doesn't help in cooling temps down after i passed the 3.5GHz OC. Still, nice touch AMD. But i bet you knew it before me.

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 12:07 AM

Dude, why don't you use Core Temp for temp. monitoring, like it a lot better than speedfan :D

Core Temp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/)

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 12:32 AM

How better ? :) Don't think i don't trust you, it's just the way i see it the prog tells me strictly what i need to know. Then again, if CoreTemp have more necessary features for temp monitoring, then you talk the buisness.

*EDIT*

Just noticed the prog's link you gave - interface is less graphical (& less aggressive) then SpeedFan's. Sorry, but for now i'll stick with SF. Thanx nevertheless, guess i'll have to use it a bit later. Don't think that i'm stubborn. :)

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 12:34 AM

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 12:36 AM

Just saw that it's has some (minor) prob with few of Phenoms/Phenom IIs, but still support 'em. :toast: nevertheless. :)

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 12:38 AM

Just saw that it's has some (minor) prob with few of Phenoms/Phenom IIs, but still support 'em. :toast: nevertheless. :)

What, Core Temp?

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 12:39 AM

Yeah, read what it says bout that Phenom/Phenom II issue in the page of link you gave.

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 12:40 AM

Yeah, read what it says bout that Phenom/Phenom II issue in the page of link you gave.

Works great for me that's why I guess I never even bothered to read it :laugh:

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 12:42 AM

Here's what i dug up :

Note: AMD Phenom is supported, but it does not report absolute temperature. More on this in How does it work?.

That is all, i guess. Have fun using this prog. :toast:

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 12:45 AM

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 01:00 AM

Dude, why don't you use Core Temp for temp. monitoring, like it a lot better than speedfan :D

Core Temp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/)
Everest is the better choice of the latter 2 bro.

Wile E

Feb 12, 2010, 01:38 AM

Here's what i dug up :

That is all, i guess. Have fun using this prog. :toast:

I think I know what they man, but maybe I'm wrong. I'll look into it and if I find anything interesting I'll post it. :toast: Thanks.

It's the sensors, not the program. Speedfan is not any more accurate. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's generally less accurate than Core Temp. The sensors on Intel's Yorkfields have the similar problems.

Everest is the better choice of the latter 2 bro.
Everest isn't any better either. It hogs a lot more resources to give you a reading no more accurate than Core Temp.

eidairaman1

Feb 12, 2010, 01:40 AM

temp gun anyone?

cdawall

Feb 12, 2010, 01:43 AM

FX 57 or FX 60 is what i had in mind.

FX55 sandy and FX57 are pretty much the same chip and the 60 dont clock to well opty 165 would be better

eidairaman1

Feb 12, 2010, 02:04 AM

A dual core AGP machine would be nice to have, I could always get 2 more gigs of Mushkin Redline and have a pretty decent Older machine (One that would actually load the videocards capabilities)

(FIH) The Don

Feb 12, 2010, 02:07 AM

this mobo maybe then? http://www.asrock.com/MB/overview.asp?Model=939Dual-VSTA

it has both agp and pci-e :roll:

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 02:13 AM

Before i go for 8+ hours sleep, here's the SuperPi 1M calculations dump with 3.6GHz (1st run was 20.xxxsec, this one - observe :)) :

http://img.techpowerup.org/100211/SuperPi_1M calculations.jpg

See you in 8+ hours from now. :toast:

cdawall

Feb 12, 2010, 02:19 AM

A dual core AGP machine would be nice to have, I could always get 2 more gigs of Mushkin Redline and have a pretty decent Older machine (One that would actually load the videocards capabilities)

from what i saw an opty is around $50 and a AGP board (NF3 style) is $40 but that would toss you up into a good gamer

oh and woot for texas snow

http://img.techpowerup.org/100211/DSCF2890.jpg

its better than a car wash :rolleyes:

exodusprime1337

Feb 12, 2010, 02:20 AM

Here's what i dug up :

That is all, i guess. Have fun using this prog. :toast:

thats because the phenom II core temps don't read individually, never have, in fact i can't remember a time when i could read each core separately lol.

eidairaman1

Feb 12, 2010, 02:22 AM

WTH, Lackland or Sheppard? PS I'm E5 Cdawall.

eidairaman1

Feb 12, 2010, 02:25 AM

from what i saw an opty is around $50 and a AGP board (NF3 style) is $40 but that would toss you up into a good gamer

oh and woot for texas snow

http://img.techpowerup.org/100211/DSCF2890.jpg

its better than a car wash :rolleyes:

I was able to play COD 4 with just a resolution adjust to the native but i would have constant lag spikes with character movement/lookaround. I was getting i believe max of 42 FPS. Also i heard there is a slight compatibility issue with the Dual Core CPus on NF3 motherboards with ATI video cards, which is very odd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NForce3

only solution would to get a Different CHipset motherboard or run a Single core, Then again a fast Single core can be as strong or even faster than a Dual core at times.

I think with this BS they pulled on NF3 and 2 users has made me decide to drop Nvidia as a Chipset maker totally.

cdawall

Feb 12, 2010, 02:28 AM

WTH, Lackland or Sheppard? PS I'm E5 Cdawall.

shep and i'm only an E3 :laugh:

I was able to play COD 4 with just a resolution adjust to the native but i would have constant lag spikes with character movement/lookaround. I was getting i believe max of 42 FPS. Also i heard there is a slight compatibility issue with the Dual Core CPus on NF3 motherboards with ATI video cards, which is very odd.

never heard of the compatibility issues on that setup thats a funky ass combo to mess up...

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 02:33 AM

It's the sensors, not the program. Speedfan is not any more accurate. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's generally less accurate than Core Temp. The sensors on Intel's Yorkfields have the similar problems.

Everest isn't any better either. It hogs a lot more resources to give you a reading no more accurate than Core Temp.
I beg to differ on that one Wile, the CH3 dont display proper temps using core temp.
Everest shows every thing from psu 12 volt which occt and aod plus other programs to monitor don't read. Core temp shows a 6c higher temp than Everest does.... Everest displays what the bios shows.

Oh and today I was talking to Acid and he commented on my temps.... I was idling at what he runs under load so i decided to see what was going on.

The D-Tek fusion block was big time con-vexed in the center. I spent all afternoon lapping it and now she's running 6c cooler and don't have the big fluctuations in temperature like before. :D

I ran Wprime 1024m and the highest the cpu hit was 32c

Before it would hit into the mid 40's
I also checked the cpu and it wasn't bad but could have used a minor lapp but I'm not giving up the warranty for a degree or two in temps.

eidairaman1

Feb 12, 2010, 02:34 AM

shep and i'm only an E3 :laugh:

never heard of the compatibility issues on that setup thats a funky ass combo to mess up...

well heres another cdawall, Heavies or Fighters? Knuckledragger or Pointy Head?

cdawall

Feb 12, 2010, 02:38 AM

well heres another cdawall, Heavies or Fighters? Knuckledragger or Pointy Head?

B1B and maintenance

eidairaman1

Feb 12, 2010, 02:41 AM

cdawall

Feb 12, 2010, 02:47 AM

Fighter Avionics Craftsman myself, but now going to become a Air Transport Apprentice (No thanks to Randolph for fucking up manning again)

Anyways back to task at hand, Id like to have a Decent 939 since AM2 doesnt support DDR1 that can OC like a SOB with a Top tier Single or Dual core CPU (Intel can suck my **** for all i care- they have been ripping people off for years like Nvidia has)

only good stuff from those days for AGP would be the NF3 boards the K8M800 VIA stuff had no bus locks. Next step would be a NF4 board DFI infinity was quite good but those are PCI-e

eidairaman1

Feb 12, 2010, 02:50 AM

ya and thats the problem, if you read the link i had it states all the problems NF3 encountered thx to NV dropping support for anything higher than XP.

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 03:19 AM

Everest is the better choice of the latter 2 bro.

I use everest as well, sometimes I have both open :laugh: Everest is a great program though :rockout:

Velvet Wafer

Feb 12, 2010, 03:21 AM

I use everest as well, sometimes I have both open :laugh: Everest is a great program though :rockout:

WHEN Everest reads the same as realtemp/coretemp, or very similar, its THE tool for me... i love the OSD sidebar,telling me each temp,without beeing annyoing,or filling up my taskbar;)

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 03:21 AM

WHEN Everest reads the same as realtemp/coretemp, or very similar, its THE tool for me... i love the OSD sidebar,telling me each temp,without beeing annyoing,or filling up my taskbar;)

Everest has nifty little gadgets. :toast:

Velvet Wafer

Feb 12, 2010, 03:23 AM

Everest has nifty little gadgets. :toast:

not all versions are the same though! some are flawed! but only a very few;)

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 03:24 AM

not all versions are the same though! some are flawed! but only a very few;)

I use the latest one I believe.

Wile E

Feb 12, 2010, 03:26 AM

I beg to differ on that one Wile, the CH3 dont display proper temps using core temp.
Everest shows every thing from psu 12 volt which occt and aod plus other programs to monitor don't read. Core temp shows a 6c higher temp than Everest does.... Everest displays what the bios shows.

Oh and today I was talking to Acid and he commented on my temps.... I was idling at what he runs under load so i decided to see what was going on.

The D-Tek fusion block was big time con-vexed in the center. I spent all afternoon lapping it and now she's running 6c cooler and don't have the big fluctuations in temperature like before. :D

I ran Wprime 1024m and the highest the cpu hit was 32c

Before it would hit into the mid 40's
I also checked the cpu and it wasn't bad but could have used a minor lapp but I'm not giving up the warranty for a degree or two in temps.
Showing temps and voltages, and the readings actually being accurate are 2 entirely different things. It doesn't matter what the bios or program shows, if the sensor is crappy to begin with.

Everest is one of the most overrated programs out there, and way too much of a resource hog for temp monitoring.

Velvet Wafer

Feb 12, 2010, 03:27 AM

I use the latest one I believe.

see: i use 1-2 versions before that, because that had a digit more, during showing voltages:)

Velvet Wafer

Feb 12, 2010, 03:28 AM

Showing temps and voltages, and the readings actually being accurate are 2 entirely different things. It doesn't matter what the bios or program shows, if the sensor is crappy to begin with.

Everest is one of the most overrated programs out there, and way too much of a resource hog for temp monitoring.

on a quadcore? naah... who cares... i find it really difficult, to lag my rig out,even during 100% crunching load, even linpack is relatively soft.:)

EDIT: sry for Double Post, didnt realized that :o

Wile E

Feb 12, 2010, 03:43 AM

I care.

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 03:43 AM

I care.

to each their own, if you care that's more than enough for you to not use it.

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 04:40 AM

Wile E

Feb 12, 2010, 04:47 AM

On a top notch mobo I highly doubt they use crappy sensors ,
I think at one time you were the one that told me to TRUST the Bios over anything else so whats up now?
as for system resources? We aren't in the ol days when it mattered lol but thanks for the input... your still one of the one's I rely on for trusted info bro :respect:

im just saying there isnt many programs that have been programed to work with this board but Everest is the one that seems to keep up to date with things.:twitch:

CPU temp sensors are in the cpu, not on the board. PSU voltage readings are never accurate. Only a multimeter is accurate for that. I trust the BIOS for vcore and vdram reading, and things like that. I never fully trust them for temps.

JrRacinFan

Feb 12, 2010, 01:36 PM

p_o_s_pc

Feb 12, 2010, 02:57 PM

Anyone here with insight and ssettings to try.
I can get the 4th core to unlock but it not boot into windows? It posts just fine @ stock and 3.2Ghz. I have even undervolted it down to 1.2v and it still posts.

try different ACC values. maybe you can get the 4th core stable. Up the volts to around 1.4v and try to get into windows.. If none of that works try NB volts (odd chance it will work but why not try) If it still isn't stable(or load into windows) then the 4th core is bad and you won't be able to unlock it

JrRacinFan

Feb 12, 2010, 03:07 PM

Positive or negative ACC? I did as a test a -6% percent on Core 3 without it set to Hybrid and gave a BSOD at windows load, so I'm thiinking possble faulty core. Did attempt 1.3v NB, 1.5v cpu core, and 1.5v vCPU/NB already.

Is a positive ACC better?

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 03:10 PM

Shaun it all depends on the CPU. My first gen Phenoms like positive ACCb
better. My 965 like negative ACC better. Just try different ACC settings.

JrRacinFan

Feb 12, 2010, 03:17 PM

Thanks man. Oh and check out my specs. I plan on going back over to 64bit with the 3rd stick on Monday when I have some time to reinstall and tweak things.

6GB Single vs 4GB Dual?
http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/Capture080.jpg

I was pulling approximately the same numbers with 3.5Ghz alongside the XMS3's.

EDIT:
For future reference, I have no pen/paper on me and noting for others to look. Acc table:

All cores - 0% makes 3.2Ghz boot into Windows @ 1.3v
All cores - +2% makes 3.2Ghz boot into Windows @ 1.26v
Per core- Core 0 thru 2 -2% & Core 3 +2% makes 3.2Ghz boot into Windows @ 1.26v

EDIT2:
Per core- Core 0 thru 2 -2% & Core 3 +2% - Unlock unsuccessful -No windows boot -posts showing a 4th core

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 04:28 PM

Have a dump & question relating to it :

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/Device Settings.jpg

Here's the question : under HT bus section (says 200MHz) there's HT multiplier; currently in this Device Settings page & BIOS it's AUTO; CPU-Z reports it @ 2000MHz freq; in BIOS & in this page setting it to x10 does any trick, or what ? Or just leave it in both @ AUTO ? Thanx alot.

JrRacinFan

Feb 12, 2010, 04:39 PM

In my experiences so far leaving HT Link @ 2Ghz or lower helps stability. Keeping it between 1900 and 2000 you won't experience any performance loss.

Kei

Feb 12, 2010, 04:49 PM

Have a dump & question relating to it :

Here's the question : under HT bus section (says 200MHz) there's HT multiplier; currently in this Device Settings page & BIOS it's AUTO; CPU-Z reports it @ 2000MHz freq; in BIOS & in this page setting it to x10 does any trick, or what ? Or just leave it in both @ AUTO ? Thanx alot.

The 10x setting in the bios is the same as 2000Mhz. The HT Link is determined by the Reference clock (stock 200Mhz), and the HT Link multiplier (stock 10x or 9x depending on processor model). In the case of those of us with AM3 processors (regardless of AM2+ or AM3 board being used) out stock multiplier is 10x * 200Mhz = 2000Mhz.

Setting this to a higher speed won't help you unless you're running some sort of ridiculous GPU setup. In truth, even if you lower this setting you will still not have bad performance from it because stock we already have MORE than enough. The stock value of 2000Mhz is actually only half the speed which is 4000MT/s.

I personally prefer not to leave the setting on AUTO in the bios, and just select the multiplier that will put me the closest to 2000Mhz depending on what the bus speed is. This can be clocked very high, but like I said don't bother because you won't gain anything meaningful and it can cause problems overclocking the rest of the system. I've tested up to 2900Mhz (5800MT/s), and you get nothing meaningful at all. :toast:

Kei

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 05:01 PM

So in both the Device Settings page & @ BIOS x10 multi is enough, you say ? And yeah, i thought as well why to leave such thing in AUTO, afterall. Thanx.

Kei

Feb 12, 2010, 05:06 PM

Yep, stock 2000Mhz is more than enough already. The reason I don't leave it set to the AUTO setting is because if you change the bus speed then you're also overclocking the HT link speed. If I use a 250Mhz bus/reference speed and the HT link is still on auto then it will be running at 2500Mhz which is not needed.

That means if I want to clock my bus speed up to get my ram to run cas6 timings, then I should drop the HT link multiplier down from the stock 10x/auto to 8x....8x * 250Mhz = 2000Mhz and all is fine in hobbit land. :)

Kei

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 05:20 PM

In BIOS it's actually says NB/HT Link speed is 2.6GHz, CPU-Z says HT Link @ 2000MHz & (BIOS again, JumperFree setting) it is not HT multi, but rather CPU-NB multiplier ! WTF ?! :laugh: It's probably CPU-to-NB, which in return is HT freq, or i forgot this ? So if going into BIOS, i need to change 2 things : NB/HT Link Speed, CPU-NB multiplier & set them correspondingly - 2GHz for NB/HT Link & x10 multi for CPU-NB multi, or something along those lines ? F***ing ASUSTek loves to play with names of this settings ! lol Thanx in advance.

*EDIT*

Got another ScD for your viewing pleasure (or not :)), this time LinX & other progs you'll see in it :

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/screendump6.jpg

Temp of CPU during this test sometimes rised to 53C, though cooled down to 50-47C after few secs. Mind you - it's stock cooling & no overvolt involved. Need that TRUE & 2x120mm fans ASAP, @most by the end of this month !!!!!

JrRacinFan

Feb 12, 2010, 06:30 PM

Give me a screenshot of your memory tab in CPUz. I have a feeling your looking at NB clock.

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 06:44 PM

Pic :

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/CPU-Z mem tab.jpg

So i guess CPU-to-NB multiplier does in return reffers to HT freq, right ? Same goes for NB/HT Link, yeah ? Also just out of curiosity : If the Ganged mode is @ AUTO setting it to disabled & setting DRAM freq to 533 (or 667 better) will report the freq @ 1066 (or 1300+) MHz correspondingly ? Just asking. :)

JrRacinFan

Feb 12, 2010, 07:03 PM

Correct on all accounts. :)

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 08:22 PM

^lol Thanx. Will tweak 'em all right after posting this. :)

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 09:00 PM

I got myself a new toy today :D

I hope it's a good clocker.
any input how I should go about clocking this c3 chip :toast:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/c3.jpg

(FIH) The Don

Feb 12, 2010, 09:06 PM

raise multi to 19-20x, volt on 1.4-1.48 and maybe nb v to 1.375,

thats about what i have on mine when i play with it

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 09:11 PM

raise multi to 19-20x, volt on 1.4-1.48 and maybe nb v to 1.375,

thats about what i have on mine when i play with it
Whoot!! im thinking about leaving the volts stock and try for x20 on the multi... I just booted up a few min ago and wanted to make sure this 965 was indead a C3 hehe...

I have a good feeling about this chip, I hope it's a 4ghz low volt 24/7 friendly chip but time will tell.
thanks Don :respect:

(FIH) The Don

Feb 12, 2010, 09:12 PM

i cant go over 3.7 with stock volts, its impossible to me, 3.8 is 1.375v 3.9 is 1.3875- 1.4

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 09:27 PM

well im out- going to try 20x stock... I'll report back soon

(FIH) The Don

Feb 12, 2010, 09:29 PM

go for it:toast:

cdawall

Feb 12, 2010, 09:32 PM

The 10x setting in the bios is the same as 2000Mhz. The HT Link is determined by the Reference clock (stock 200Mhz), and the HT Link multiplier (stock 10x or 9x depending on processor model). In the case of those of us with AM3 processors (regardless of AM2+ or AM3 board being used) out stock multiplier is 10x * 200Mhz = 2000Mhz.

Setting this to a higher speed won't help you unless you're running some sort of ridiculous GPU setup. In truth, even if you lower this setting you will still not have bad performance from it because stock we already have MORE than enough. The stock value of 2000Mhz is actually only half the speed which is 4000MT/s.

I personally prefer not to leave the setting on AUTO in the bios, and just select the multiplier that will put me the closest to 2000Mhz depending on what the bus speed is. This can be clocked very high, but like I said don't bother because you won't gain anything meaningful and it can cause problems overclocking the rest of the system. I've tested up to 2900Mhz (5800MT/s), and you get nothing meaningful at all. :toast:

Kei

the only difference is like you said in 3D setups and then only when you push more than 2 cards a pair of X2's would show some improvement with a higher bus speed.

http://img.techpowerup.org/090624/Capture031.jpg

i had 3450 (6900mt/s effective) 3d stable

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 09:32 PM

well its working at stock 1.35v @ 4GHz :rockout:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/4ghzstockvolts.jpg

(FIH) The Don

Feb 12, 2010, 09:33 PM

thats insane, try out som intel burn, 5-10runs

what are your temps?

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 09:40 PM

thats insane, try out som intel burn, 5-10runs

what are your temps?
Just did and it ran for about 20sec than got the BSOD... I just raised the voltage to 1.3750...
lets see now much it takes.:cool:

(FIH) The Don

Feb 12, 2010, 09:43 PM

lol i knew it, you might have to go above 1.4v

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 09:47 PM

well its working at stock 1.35v @ 4GHz :rockout:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/4ghzstockvolts.jpg

thats insane, try out som intel burn, 5-10runs

what are your temps?

4.0GHz @ stock volts ?!!!!! That's INDEED insane & aside of what Don asked bout temps, i add my question as well : are you running it on stock cooling or TRUE/Vendetta2/etc... HSFs ? I think i'll go for 3.8GHz if you'll say you run it on stock.

(FIH) The Don

Feb 12, 2010, 09:48 PM

look at he's system specs, it says water so i guess thats the cooling ;)

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 09:52 PM

damn Brad, that's awesome. Let's see what it takes to get that puppy stable at 4GHz :D :toast:

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 09:52 PM

2Don :

Well that is f***ed !!!!!! :laugh: BTW : TT pump like Thermaltake pump ? And no 3.8GHz OC on stock cooling for me. Though i want now to test 3.7GHz out of curiousity @ stock volts & see how it fares out. Give me few tics & i'm back to report. :)

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 09:59 PM

4.0GHz @ stock volts ?!!!!! That's INDEED insane & aside of what Don asked bout temps, i add my question as well : are you running it on stock cooling or TRUE/Vendetta2/etc... HSFs ? I think i'll go for 3.8GHz if you'll say you run it on stock.
Water cooling my friend... nothing more and nothing less :rockout:

trt740

Feb 12, 2010, 10:01 PM

Man this 955 c3 4 ghz on air small ftt stable first try. Easiest 4.0ghz I have ever reached. What a decent low voltage to shoot for

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 10:02 PM

damn Brad, that's awesome. Let's see what it takes to get that puppy stable at 4GHz :D :toast:
1.3850v passed Intel burn normal test... will try 10 runs now... 1.3750v I seen the Gflops start to drop and that was the end of it... Oh and I forgot to disable cpu spread spectrum on the 1.3750v run so Im thinking thats part of the problem...

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/1.387.jpg

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 10:05 PM

Man this 955 c3 4 ghz on air small ftt stable first try. Easiest 4.0ghz I have ever reached. What a decent low voltage to shoot for
Yeah i hear that trt, amd is starting to make it to easy for us like Intel lol

trt740

Feb 12, 2010, 10:10 PM

Yeah i hear that trt, amd is starting to make it to easy for us like Intel lol

No intel is alot harder, atleast the I7. Anyways what the average c3 need to get to 4.0ghz? core voltage wise. My first try is stable at 1.475v. Also whats the max 24/7 temp on these chips. My max temp under prime is 48c with one fan using a MEG.

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 10:12 PM

Have a dump (first of 3), Vantage is just in background, doin' nothing so far. :) After i'll post this, i'll run it @ Performance & then if nothing BSODs on me :laugh: @ High preset. If even after that nothing happens stability-wise, then i don't know what i'll have to do............. Dump then (Congrats for running successfully IntelBurnTest @ 4.0GHz fullinfusion, now only thing to remember is i'm running after you to close the gap :)) :

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/Phenom-II-@-3.7GHz

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 10:16 PM

10 runs stable :D

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/10runsstable.jpg

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 10:20 PM

No intel is alot harder, atleast the I7. Anyways what the average c3 need to get to 4.0ghz? core voltage wise. My first try is stable at 1.475v. Also whats the max 24/7 temp on these chips. My max temp under prime is 48c with one fan using a MEG.
well CP tells me I7 is so easy to O/C so im just going by what the chickin burger says lol... I wouldn't know since im AMD for life... I hate change lol.... I just ran 4ghz @ 1.3850v 10 runs of Intel burn and didn't have any major drop in Gflops so im sure its stable.... I did however see the cpu-nb on auto was running the voltage at 1.40v so I manually dropped it down to 1.1v

trt740

Feb 12, 2010, 10:23 PM

well CP tells me I7 is so easy to O/C so im just going by what the chickin burger says lol... I wouldn't know since im AMD for life... I hate change lol.... I just ran 4ghz @ 1.3850v 10 runs of Intel burn and didn't have any major drop in Gflops so im sure its stable.... I did however see the cpu-nb on auto was running the voltage at 1.40v so I manually dropped it down to 1.1v

Whats your ram at mines at ddr1600, and at higher ram speed it seems a bit more difficult. Very nice clock and I have never hit 4.0ghz on a I7 changing 3 settings, more like three pages of disabling and increasing settings and voltages.

johnnyfiive

Feb 12, 2010, 10:33 PM

1.3850v passed Intel burn normal test... will try 10 runs now... 1.3750v I seen the Gflops start to drop and that was the end of it... Oh and I forgot to disable cpu spread spectrum on the 1.3750v run so Im thinking thats part of the problem...

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/1.387.jpg

Nice! Change the threads from auto to 4. See if its stable then. :D

trt740

Feb 12, 2010, 10:38 PM

Chicken you out there. Help a brother out . I will let this prime taking my 11 year old to the lightening thief. Also you guys using prime blend or small ftt

(FIH) The Don

Feb 12, 2010, 10:39 PM

10 runs stable :D

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/10runsstable.jpg

good work man, try a 3dmark05, that is pretty hard on the cpu also

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 10:44 PM

Nice! Change the threads from auto to 4. See if its stable then. :D
Its not on auto... look again, its set to run on all 4 threads

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 10:46 PM

Chicken you out there. Help a brother out . I will let this prime taking my 11 year old to the lightening thief. Also you guys using prime blend or small ftt

I use large FFT bro. Blend is slightly less stressful on your CPU i believe but tests more RAM.

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 10:50 PM

good work man, try a 3dmark05, that is pretty hard on the cpu also
dont have mark05 cus Im on vista 64... I'll run a few passes on 06 for ya though. :pimp:

(FIH) The Don

Feb 12, 2010, 10:51 PM

would be nice, but the 05 version is harder on the cpu :P

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 11:05 PM

Suddenly i can't see my image, did i actually exceeded the limit of MBs allowed or something ? :laugh: Maybe if i'll post 'em pics as attachments will solve the prob. Next up Vantage High preset @ 3.7GHz & after it 1h run of LinX at the same clock+SuperPi 1M & 32M. Stay tuned.

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 11:11 PM

would be nice, but the 05 version is harder on the cpu :P
I hear ya but its time to start raising the bus speed to get more outta the ram and now I'm going to clock the NB up to 2600+ to find a nice blend of all worlds.... I believe like CP told me b4 that it's because im using the CH3 mobo... I think it finally welcomed it's new sibling lol

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/06stable4ghz.jpg

also I upgraded to the newest mark06 and Vantage ver.
I think im getting ripped off for a score but whatever, fair is fair :rockout:

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 11:21 PM

Let's try this...

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/letstrythis.jpg

Chicken Patty

Feb 12, 2010, 11:22 PM

Let's try this...

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/letstrythis.jpg

I'm loving your temps more than you clocks :laugh:

YautjaLord

Feb 12, 2010, 11:30 PM

Got for your viewing [dis]pleasure :laugh: jk the finishing 3DMarks, overall, CPU & GPU correspondingly (High preset). So far i don't think of raising the CPU voltage even slightly (stock HSF) til get TRUE with 2 120mm fans whatsoever. Next up SuperPi 1M/32M & after that LinX 1, no, 2h run @ 3.7GHz. Wish me luck, i think when i'll have TRUE i'll go for 4.0GHz.

P.S. Core temp was 61 degrees C, Temp1 (CPU ?) - 57-58C !!!!!

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 11:31 PM

I'm loving your temps more than you clocks :laugh:
Yeah thanks for a nice lapped fusion block, I couldn't believe how bad it was for a higher end block.... it made a huge difference.... this new 965 is about the same as the 955 was for straightness across the surface so I'm leaving it for warranty purposes....

(FIH) The Don

Feb 12, 2010, 11:45 PM

I hear ya but its time to start raising the bus speed to get more outta the ram and now I'm going to clock the NB up to 2600+ to find a nice blend of all worlds.... I believe like CP told me b4 that it's because im using the CH3 mobo... I think it finally welcomed it's new sibling lol

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/06stable4ghz.jpg

also I upgraded to the newest mark06 and Vantage ver.
I think im getting ripped off for a score but whatever, fair is fair :rockout:

is that a standard 06 run?

cause i get more from my 2 5770s than your 4890s, and that aint right

cdawall

Feb 12, 2010, 11:52 PM

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 11:52 PM

is that a standard 06 run?

cause i get more from my 2 5770s than your 4890s, and that aint right
I'm only running a single xxx 4890 atm.... my local shop has a 5970 and he's holding it for me for 2 weeks depending on if I get the miles in.... I'm stable at this now with a tiny tweak of the CPU and CPU-NB volts..

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/alittletweek.jpg

(FIH) The Don

Feb 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

aww thats pretty good imo, both my 5770s does 22k in cf

fullinfusion

Feb 12, 2010, 11:54 PM

i might be going down a little bit to some fun parts looking at getting my server up and running

asus L1N64 WS (flashed /b)
4x1GB D9xxx reg'd/ecc
32gb SSD
4870X2

dual opteron 8346HE's thats 8 cores hehe
Wow Cd that's sweet bro! but you still suck IMO lol, jj mate you rock... be sure to keep us posted on what ya unleash outta your bad of tricks :nutkick:

Velvet Wafer

Feb 12, 2010, 11:57 PM

I'm only running a single xxx 4890 atm.... my local shop has a 5970 and he's holding it for me for 2 weeks depending on if I get the miles in.... I'm stable at this now with a tiny tweak of the CPU and CPU-NB volts..

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/alittletweek.jpg

looks really good! these C3 seem to clock a lot better!
dont forget, this Guy is using X64! that betters his achievements even!;)

YautjaLord

Feb 13, 2010, 12:09 AM

Got it working, though i definetely not overvolt with stock HSF. Won't do the 2 hours LinX run, cause it'll be 5am in Israel when i'll finish it. :) Here's 2 tumbnails for SuperPi_mod (@ 3.7GHz/1.35v) :

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 12:12 AM

looks really good! these C3 seem to clock a lot better!
dont forget, this Guy is using X64! that betters his achievements even!;)
oh stop it lol... I always thought x86 had it better?

I just ran a few stresses and passed, plus YES these c3 chips are freaking sweet bro!!!

I just ran a mark06 and it went up nicely :rockout:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/4100ghzstable.jpg

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 12:13 AM

after seeing these 4ghz clocks on the PII you guys are making me want to go back to AMD :banhead: I think i am going to build a PII cruncher next wouldn't cost much more then a i3

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 12:16 AM

oh stop it lol... I always thought x86 had it better?

I just ran a few stresses and passed, plus YES these c3 chips are freaking sweet bro!!!

I just ran a mark06 and it went up nicely :rockout:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/4100ghzstable.jpg

you get better clocks, but such a clock on x64, with an AMD proc, is quite an Achievement!:)

why dont you like Intel, Pos?

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 12:20 AM

after seeing these 4ghz clocks on the PII you guys are making me want to go back to AMD :banhead: I think i am going to build a PII cruncher next wouldn't cost much more then a i3
Yeah amd has really come together ATM IMO compared to the early PII's... I'm loving these new Revision chips especially this one.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/spi.jpg

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 12:20 AM

I'm really looking at the PII X2 555(its the C3 dual core)
or maybe i just need to open a window push the voltage on the i7 and see how much i can get out of it.

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 12:23 AM

you get better clocks, but such a clock on x64, with an AMD proc, is quite an Achievement!:)

why dont you like Intel, Pos?
I always had amd just for the price bro.... i didn't know shit about computers till 2 year's ago so go figure.... i just like what works for me and i love gaming as well converting movies.... dollar for dollar IMO I'm getting the better bang for my buck but I'm sure others will differ on that lol

Chicken Patty

Feb 13, 2010, 12:25 AM

Yeah thanks for a nice lapped fusion block, I couldn't believe how bad it was for a higher end block.... it made a huge difference.... this new 965 is about the same as the 955 was for straightness across the surface so I'm leaving it for warranty purposes....

Yeah, I'm not lapping a CPU anymore :laugh:

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 12:25 AM

I'm really looking at the PII X2 555(its the C3 dual core)
or maybe i just need to open a window push the voltage on the i7 and see how much i can get out of it.
I'm just starting on this CPU lol.... i betcha I get 4.2+ outta this thing at lower than normal volts.... but it's just a thought ATM..... I'm thinking....how high is this bugger going to go under 1.5v

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 12:26 AM

you get better clocks, but such a clock on x64, with an AMD proc, is quite an Achievement!:)

why dont you like Intel, Pos?

I think i am just a fanboy at heart. I won't give up my i7 just because of how much of a cruncher it isI'm just starting on this CPU lol.... i betcha I get 4.2+ outta this thing at lower than normal volts.... but it's just a thought ATM..... I'm thinking....how high is this bugger going to go under 1.5v
on my i7 i get 4ghz stable @~1.3v keep in mind it is a C1 and that i am new to clocking Intel so i think as i learn i can get more out of it on the same volts

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 12:27 AM

I think i am just a fanboy at heart. I won't give up my i7 just because of how much of a cruncher it is
A spiting image of David lol, but it's all good mate. :respect:

I just cant wait for the 6 core AMD chip to come out to see how it runs against Intel

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 12:28 AM

I'm just starting on this CPU lol.... i betcha I get 4.2+ outta this thing at lower than normal volts.... but it's just a thought ATM..... I'm thinking....how high is this bugger going to go under 1.5v
i bet you will hit a wall over 4.2 if you get a 4.3 valid, i will be jumping across the room :p

I think i am just a fanboy at heart. I won't give up my i7 just because of how much of a cruncher it is

it wasnt made with the gamer in mind;) i love my 955 in Games!

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 12:29 AM

i bet you will hit a wall over 4.2 if you get a 4.3 valid, i will be jumping across the room :p

it wasnt made with the gamer in mind;) i love my 955 in Games!
ok bro Its your game.... you give me a setting to try and I'll try it with out any bull shit K.

lets see what it can do.

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 12:30 AM

A spiting image of David lol, but it's all good mate. :respect:

:laugh: I take that as a complement. David is a good guy(from what i know) so thank you :toast:
I think i just ditched my plan to build a i3 lan box and replaced it with a X2 555 :p should be good.
If i was to post here with board,CPU,ram etc would you guys be willing to give me your input on if it would make a good cruncher/lan box?
i bet you will hit a wall over 4.2 if you get a 4.3 valid, i will be jumping across the room :p

it wasnt made with the gamer in mind;) i love my 955 in Games!

Its true it was made more with the "pros" in mind but it still is a hell of a gamer I can't slow it down.But i still get lag in TDU but i think that is just because of a poorly coded game. It plays about the same on my current setup as it did on my x2 4600+@2.5ghz and 7900GS :wtf:

Chicken Patty

Feb 13, 2010, 12:31 AM

Brad, just for that how's this

I'm getting another i7 :p

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 12:31 AM

ok bro Its your game.... you give me a setting to try and I'll try it with out any bull shit K.

lets see what it can do.
Thats a Word!
246x17.5, no Matter what it will cost?;)
with x12 NB and HT under 2000?

A game that lags on such a fast Machine? seems to be impossible. they really must have employed amateurs to program that :D

Kei

Feb 13, 2010, 12:32 AM

Chicken Patty

Feb 13, 2010, 12:33 AM

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 12:36 AM

Brad, just for that how's this

I'm getting another i7 :p
I know you F*%#er!!!! lets play when you get it you Traitor lol jj mate

Chicken Patty

Feb 13, 2010, 12:40 AM

I know you F*%#er!!!! lets play when you get it you Traitor lol jj mate

my signature says it all, how am I a traitor? :slap:

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 12:41 AM

can i get some advice on this

starting with the board. this one seems to have caught my eye because it seems decent has nice specs layout doesn't look bad and price is about the same as what i was going to pay for the i3 board

ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131603

Now the ram is the same that is in the i7 there will be 2 sticks in the AMD build. From what i have seen from this ram and what i have got it to with the i7 i am considering buying it for the AMD build also. Now I know its only 2gb but i haven't had any problems with XP and 2gb of ram for crunching and slight gaming/everyday use like surfing the web. Any other task that are more demanding would be done on the main rig

ram X2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148196

CPU
this kinda goes without saying much. I am looking for a cheap CPU based on the C3 stepping and with a possibility of unlocking to a quad. The X2 555 seems to fit the bill perfectly
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103846

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 12:42 AM

lol of course pos! We always welcome new brothers (and sisters) into the clutches....err loving arms of the AMD brethren.

Full...what rad are you running again? You're making me go crazy (yet again), and the other rad isn't here yet. I'm gonna go check the post tomorrow since it hasn't showed up to the house yet. I'm assuming it is backed up because of all the snow we had dumped on us recently.

Kei
the 120.2 rad CP gave me.... I think that's what it is hey David?

oh and to note.... i have two 120mm fans pulling air through the rad and my custom cut thin foam air filter on the back side cuz im lazy to remove the rad to wash it clean :rockout:

Kei I sent it out by ground since money has been real tight sense x-mas but if you want I can take a photo of the receipt to show ya? It was defiantly sent to you bro...it will be there tomorrow I bet.

the main reason I got this cpu is for the fact a c2 chip wont run the memory at 1600mhz with more than 2 sticks.... I ordered another set of these nice OCZ plat 1600 tripple chan rams to have more memory. my local guy was telling me their hard to get from his supplier all of a sudden, but it'll happen in the next two weeks

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 12:43 AM

I think i am just a fanboy at heart. I won't give up my i7 just because of how much of a cruncher it is
on my i7 i get 4ghz stable @~1.3v keep in mind it is a C1 and that i am new to clocking Intel so i think as i learn i can get more out of it on the same volts

if you wanna crunch go dual AMD i managed to get all of the parts for my dual AMD for around $200 ram, cpu's and mobo

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 12:48 AM

my signature says it all, how am I a traitor? :slap:
you know I always give ya the gears about intel bro lol, its all good :toast:

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 12:49 AM

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 12:49 AM

if you wanna crunch go dual AMD i managed to get all of the parts for my dual AMD for around $200 ram, cpu's and mobo

where the hell did you find that kind of deal? If i could have found that i wouldn't have got a i7.

Chicken Patty

Feb 13, 2010, 12:50 AM

you know I always give ya the gears about intel bro lol, its all good :toast:

I know you do :D

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 12:52 AM

you f''''' i want watercooling too man :cry:
well don as nice as a person as you are..... if I knew you b4 Kei I'd gladly send the stuff out to you for free as David did for me.... who knows... maby Kei after all his testing may consider sending you a rad after he's done with it and GOES BIGGER lol....

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 12:53 AM

i have a dual 120mm rad laying around somewhere, now i just need a pump, res, block and some tubing, but that will have to wait until the money fairy comes by

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 12:58 AM

i have a dual 120mm rad laying around somewhere, now i just need a pump, res, block and some tubing, but that will have to wait until the money fairy comes by
I have about 4ft or better of the primo flex pro uv blue 3/8" Id tube left if you want it.... just PM me your addy and it's yours bro.... I can mail it off tomorrow if you are inspired togo back to H2o

oh and im at the 4.2GHz wall as Velvet said wouldnt go any further..... lets try this out now and see

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/4.2.jpg

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 12:59 AM

wow :respect::respect::respect:

that would be freakin awesome man:rockout:

you do know i live in denmark right?

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 12:59 AM

where the hell did you find that kind of deal? If i could have found that i wouldn't have got a i7.

2x opteron 8346HE (1.8ghz) $50 shipped
Asus L1N64WS $100ish
4x1GB reg'd/ECC DDR2 $20

ebay and the forums

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 01:00 AM

2x opteron 8346HE (1.8ghz) $50 shipped
Asus L1N64WS $100ish
4x1GB reg'd/ECC DDR2 $20

ebay and the forums

Do you still have them?

Chicken Patty

Feb 13, 2010, 01:01 AM

That's some hella clocking Brad :respect: i ain't jealous though! Well except for your voltage :roll:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/Capture387.jpg

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 01:02 AM

i have a dual 120mm rad laying around somewhere, now i just need a pump, res, block and some tubing, but that will have to wait until the money fairy comes by

alright! just buy you a heatkiller LC, get you a strong pond pump,or aquarium pump, put it in a 4 litres bucket,enclose it,get the tubing in the toolstore, and youre set!:D

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 01:02 AM

Do you still have them?

puttin it together when i go home in march looking at some 6 core stuff to

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 01:02 AM

wow :respect::respect::respect:

that would be freakin awesome man:rockout:

you do know i live in denmark right?

I do now lol.... I'll go to the Post office tomorrow and see how much it will be.... It wont be much as my wife is always sending her family things out in the post to Australia all the time so I don't think It be much sending it out in a bubble Envelope... just gimme your details bro and we can take it from there.

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 01:03 AM

That's some hella clocking Brad :respect: i ain't jealous though! Well except for your voltage :roll:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/Capture387.jpg
LMAO I see some one wants to play hehe....Oh and tighten up those timings pussy lol...

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 01:03 AM

I have about 4ft or better of the primo flex pro uv blue 3/8" Id tube left if you want it.... just PM me your addy and it's yours bro.... I can mail it off tomorrow if you are inspired togo back to H2o

oh and im at the 4.2GHz wall as Velvet said wouldnt go any further..... lets try this out now and see

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/4.2.jpg

it will go further, but i dont think you will get 4.3 linx stable;)

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 01:05 AM

puttin it together when i go home in march looking at some 6 core stuff to

so i take it as you don't have a interest in selling them later on then if your wanting 6 core

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 01:05 AM

I do now lol.... I'll go to the Post office tomorrow and see how much it will be.... It wont be much as my wife is always sending her family things out in the post to Australia all the time so I don't think It be much sending it out in a bubble Envelope... just gimme your details bro and we can take it from there.

YHPM :rockout:

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 01:06 AM

That's some hella clocking Brad :respect: i ain't jealous though! Well except for your voltage :roll:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/Capture387.jpg

tired of your show offiness i win

http://img.techpowerup.org/090423/Capture056245.jpg

sorry needed to post something phenom II related

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 01:07 AM

@ CP

@ FullinFusion

what are your exact settings in bios for voltage, nb HT and other things?

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 01:07 AM

tired of your show offiness i win

http://img.techpowerup.org/090423/Capture056245.jpg

sorry needed to post something phenom II related

you cant show off, cda, we know youre DICEing to achieve such high results:p

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 01:08 AM

you cant show off, cda, we know youre DICEing to achieve such high results:p

lol on a C2 chip to boot :toast:

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 01:09 AM

lol on a C2 chip to boot :toast:

you dont use k10stat much,eh?:)

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 01:10 AM

tired of your show offiness i win

http://img.techpowerup.org/090423/Capture056245.jpg

sorry needed to post something phenom II related
show off? piss that bro,,,, like you never rub the clocks in our faces.... remember were all newbies here compared to the master CD lol..... It's just a good thing we got going atm so hush lol

Chicken Patty

Feb 13, 2010, 01:11 AM

LMAO I see some one wants to play hehe....Oh and tighten up those timings pussy lol...

stay out of my biz hoe! :laugh: Too lazy to tweak bro

show off? piss that bro,,,, like you never rub the clocks in our faces.... remember were all newbies here compared to the master CD lol..... It's just a good thing we got going atm so hush lol

DICE does wonders. CDA :slap:

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 01:12 AM

awww man, i wanna try out some oc'ing to, but its unfair, i only have air:laugh:

Chicken Patty

Feb 13, 2010, 01:12 AM

awww man, i wanna try out some oc'ing to, but its unfair, i only have air:laugh:

Don what settings you looking for, for my 4.2 GHz? or my daily clocks?

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 01:13 AM

the high one :D

Chicken Patty

Feb 13, 2010, 01:13 AM

the high one :D

vcore was at 1.5 then adjusted through AOD.

everything else at default except NB which was 1.3v

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 01:13 AM

so i take it as you don't have a interest in selling them later on then if your wanting 6 core

i want them for now i might sell them in the future bit i haven't found anymore cazy deals on cpu's so not for sale as of now.

keep an eye on ebay my cpu's were OEM pulls and i can't complain bout that cpu is a cpu.

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 01:14 AM

show off? piss that bro,,,, like you never rub the clocks in our faces.... remember were all newbies here compared to the master CD lol..... It's just a good thing we got going atm so hush lol

Knowledge+ trial and error+ much time can do wonders, dont forget that:laugh:

stay out of my biz hoe! :laugh: Too lazy to tweak bro

DICE does wonders. CDA :slap:

cant we find someone with a dual stage or LN2, that will post his 5 ghz+ screenies?:p

EDIT: Don, open the windows! :P

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 01:14 AM

@ CP

@ FullinFusion

what are your exact settings in bios for voltage, nb HT and other things?
here these AOD settings match 100% what I have the bios set at.... no acc and cpu spread spectrum is set to disabled

oh I also have cpu load line calibration enabled otherwise it will ramp up the cpu and other volts higher than what I want them to run....

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 01:15 AM

Knowledge+ trial and error+ much time can do wonders, dont forget that:laugh:

cant we find someone with a dual stage or LN2, that will post his 5 ghz+ screenies?:p

EDIT: Don, open the windows! :P

trying to get LN2 for myself but its proving a little difficult

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 01:16 AM

YHPM :rockout:
Replied :rockout:

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 01:16 AM

trying to get LN2 for myself but its proving a little difficult

the dewar simply costs too much,eh? you really need money if using that,from what i recognized:)

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 01:17 AM

stay out of my biz hoe! :laugh: Too lazy to tweak bro

DICE does wonders. CDA :slap:
OMFG LMAO hahahahahahahahah

eidairaman1

Feb 13, 2010, 01:19 AM

METSU HADOUKEN Beats all!!! :D:roll:

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 01:24 AM

you dont use k10stat much,eh?:)

only every time i boot a phenom lol

show off? piss that bro,,,, like you never rub the clocks in our faces.... remember were all newbies here compared to the master CD lol..... It's just a good thing we got going atm so hush lol

lol no one said 4.2ghz on water was bad i just can't do it with what i got on me right now so i get frustrated haha

stay out of my biz hoe! :laugh: Too lazy to tweak bro

DICE does wonders. CDA :slap:

hey its not cheating to have DICE and at least i have cas 7 timings and those are loose IMO

the dewar simply costs too much,eh? you really need money if using that,from what i recognized:)

only like $300 :banghead:

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 01:27 AM

only every time i boot a phenom lol

only like $300 :banghead:

you got no CPU NB volts in bios like me?

how much does a sessions cost, if you bench with a normal amount of LN2?:)

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 01:29 AM

i want them for now i might sell them in the future bit i haven't found anymore cazy deals on cpu's so not for sale as of now.

keep an eye on ebay my cpu's were OEM pulls and i can't complain bout that cpu is a cpu.

if you want to sell CPUs and anything else PM me please :toast:

Kei

Feb 13, 2010, 01:29 AM

the 120.2 rad CP gave me.... I think that's what it is hey David?

oh and to note.... i have two 120mm fans pulling air through the rad and my custom cut thin foam air filter on the back side cuz im lazy to remove the rad to wash it clean :rockout:

Kei I sent it out by ground since money has been real tight sense x-mas but if you want I can take a photo of the receipt to show ya? It was defiantly sent to you bro...it will be there tomorrow I bet

No I'm not worried in the LEAST bit that you sent it...I was just wondering what radiator you're running now because I'm thinking crazy already and your clocks have me lusting after a bigger radiator before the first one ever got installed. :roll:

I wasn't sure what 120.2 meant, I didn't know if that was two 120's or if that was a specific model. I just ate some internet knowledge though, and now see it's two 120's. The day after you sent me the other rad I was like a kid in the candy store looking at totally ridiculous quad setups (120.4 I believe they'd be called :eek: ).

Look what you've done to me....... :shadedshu

We've been under a state of emergency (lifted last night) so I'm going to go check the post to see if the rad is there tomorrow. Hopefully it is so I can start to plan for the next one already lol ;)

Once I'm done with the first rad and get restless it'll be sent off the the next owner...always pay it forward boys and girls. :toast:

METSU HADOUKEN Beats all!!!

those words..............my how i hate those two words............lol

Kei

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 01:31 AM

you got no CPU NB volts in bios like me?

how much does a sessions cost, if you bench with a normal amount of LN2?:)

lol i have a CH3 the k10stat is for single core clocking fun you can push sp1m scores if you set it to a highly oc'd single core most phenoms have one core that clocks higher so use that one.

if you want to sell CPUs and anything else PM me please :toast:

i'll see what i wanna do with them i haven't even gotten them bootin all the way yet

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 01:33 AM

lol i have a CH3 the k10stat is for single core clocking fun you can push sp1m scores if you set it to a highly oc'd single core most phenoms have one core that clocks higher so use that one.

i'll see what i wanna do with them i haven't even gotten them bootin all the way yet

alright, if youre THAT into benching, then youre supposedly right^^

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 01:38 AM

No I'm not worried in the LEAST bit that you sent it...I was just wondering what radiator you're running now because I'm thinking crazy already and your clocks have me lusting after a bigger radiator before the first one ever got installed. :roll:

I wasn't sure what 120.2 meant, I didn't know if that was two 120's or if that was a specific model. I just ate some internet knowledge though, and now see it's two 120's. The day after you sent me the other rad I was like a kid in the candy store looking at totally ridiculous quad setups (120.4 I believe they'd be called :eek: ).

Look what you've done to me....... :shadedshu

We've been under a state of emergency (lifted last night) so I'm going to go check the post to see if the rad is there tomorrow. Hopefully it is so I can start to plan for the next one already lol ;)

Once I'm done with the first rad and get restless it'll be sent off the the next owner...always pay it forward boys and girls. :toast:

Oh and David, wheres CP now? trying to squeez a tad more MHz outta his cpu lol......here I got this now stable....

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/ilikelol.jpg

those words..............my how i hate those two words............lol

Kei
I twist your mind and you think nothing about it lol.... The rad I sent you will work close to the temp's im running now but just make sure the block you chose is nice and flat.... b4 I lapped my block i could remove the mounting screws and the block would just fall into my hands....

After I lapped i removed the screws on the block to swap out this cpu and I tell ya, I had to twist and turn the block to free it up... It's working soooo much better now I can't believe it.

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 01:40 AM

alright, if youre THAT into benching, then youre supposedly right^^

http://img.techpowerup.org/090326/Capture009168.jpg

thats how much i'm into benching haha i was looking for some pics and hound that VIN1 on hwmon is my core voltage BTW

haha 65nm can survive almost 100C anyone wanna start a highest temps on a cpu thread?

YautjaLord

Feb 13, 2010, 01:41 AM

I just had my 1st OC (or not) related BSOD. And why ? I checked if i can choose the 1920x1200 res in Crysis, ok ? I can. Here's what happened next : played one of downloaded maps in all that f***ing 1920x1200 VeryHigh glory :laugh:, watched as crabs go by in the map.... POOF !!!!! BSOD !!!!! :roll: Had to lower the clock back to 3.6GHz. Until i get TRUE i stay @ that clock.

P.S. You really doing awesome job there, fullinfusion - may your 4+GHz clock be kosher !!!!! :)

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 01:45 AM

YautjaLord

Feb 13, 2010, 01:46 AM

You welcome, overclocker. :)

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 01:48 AM

Thank you xanlord, that means allot :respect:

yeah... your OC is bleeding out:D

i dont believe you need to fake your Results,eh? ;)

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 01:54 AM

yeah... your OC is bleeding out:D

i dont believe you need to fake your Results,eh? ;)
haha I dont think so!!!! I never nor do I know how to cheat lol..... here I took a shot at the voltage to to fuck with CP..... I could probaly go a tad lower on the volts but her ya go.... 4.3GHz

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/smokethisCP.jpg

Kei

Feb 13, 2010, 01:55 AM

I twist your mind and you think nothing about it lol.... The rad I sent you will work close to the temp's im running now but just make sure the block you chose is nice and flat.... b4 I lapped my block i could remove the mounting screws and the block would just fall into my hands....

After I lapped i removed the screws on the block to swap out this cpu and I tell ya, I had to twist and turn the block to free it up... It's working soooo much better now I can't believe it.

lol, yea I think you may just have pulled me to the darkside of cpu cooling after all this time trying. :p

I'm going to start off with that enzotech block you told me about, and first thing that's gonna happen is to lap it so it matches the cpu. I don't see too much point in having a lapped processor, and then getting even better cooling without bothering to make sure it's optimized. :D

Kei

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 01:56 AM

haha I dont think so!!!! I never nor do I know how to cheat lol..... here I took a shot at the voltage to to fuck with CP..... I could probaly go a tad lower on the volts but her ya go.... 4.3GHz

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/smokethisCP.jpg

hit k10stat and see if you can squeeze one core to 4.5ghz for super pi then set affinity to it

Kei

Feb 13, 2010, 01:57 AM

... 4.3GHz

:twitch:

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 01:57 AM

hit k10stat and see if you can squeeze one core to 4.5ghz for super pi then set affinity to it
on all 4 cores bro?

im not used to Kstat but if you can tell me what to set in it Id be glad to try for ya?

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 01:58 AM

haha I dont think so!!!! I never nor do I know how to cheat lol..... here I took a shot at the voltage to to fuck with CP..... I could probaly go a tad lower on the volts but her ya go.... 4.3GHz

http://img.techpowerup.org/100212/smokethisCP.jpg

how many runs linx stable? :p

doesnt seem that the PI´s improve much... you maybe got a bottleneck there?:)

Good Job though, you now own the fastest Phenom 2 on water from what i know. ;-)

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 02:00 AM

on all 4 cores bro?

im not used to Kstat but if you can tell me what to set in it Id be glad to try for ya?

try one of the cores (ever chip i have had core2 ie the third core has been strongest) right click in the clock area of cpuz and select core whatever your clocking set your affinity and see what it can do in 1m

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 02:03 AM

how many runs linx stable? :p

doesnt seem that the PI´s improve much... you maybe got a bottleneck there?:)
wow I see all the attention is on me little shitty AMD proc hey lmao..... sorry guys for gloating but this freaking rocks and Im so proud of what i've hit so far plus Im just so grateful for all the onlookers and there great comments... thanks guys :respect:

I asked CP on MSN If he had to guess what this thing could do and he said 4.2...... well lets see if it can do a 1GHZ O/c

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 02:06 AM

try one of the cores (ever chip i have had core2 ie the third core has been strongest) right click in the clock area of cpuz and select core whatever your clocking set your affinity and see what it can do in 1m
thanks but im not into just a single core atm.... no pun intended but i've been a strong believer in clocking all cores (thats all I know).... I'll post back and Im going to run AOD for the bump....

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 02:12 AM

wow I see all the attention is on me little shitty AMD proc hey lmao..... sorry guys for gloating but this freaking rocks and Im so proud of what i've hit so far plus Im just so grateful for all the onlookers and there great comments... thanks guys :respect:

I asked CP on MSN If he had to guess what this thing could do and he said 4.2...... well lets see if it can do a 1GHZ O/c

you want to trade your shit against an old c2?:laugh: i will take it instantly :P!

4 ghz 24/7 crunching stable is really possible on amd :D

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 02:12 AM

everyone overclocked my post:(
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1762518&postcount=8622

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 02:21 AM

that seems pretty decent i'd say, but why not the 785 board?

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 02:25 AM

that seems pretty decent i'd say, but why not the 785 board?

one word cheap

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 02:27 AM

everyone overclocked my post:(
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1762518&postcount=8622

should make up a pretty decent cruncher, server, and backup rig;)

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 02:30 AM

one word cheap

well as long as it has acc then you might be lucky and unlock that little thing into a badass cpu

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 02:37 AM

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 02:39 AM

Well guys Im done trying for a 1000MHz O?C tonight.... I tried with voltage bumps and ACC enabled... I could get to the point where windows starts but would than get the dreaded BSOD... I think 4.1 stable 24/7 is good as it gets for now.... Im not saying I wont try harder but for the moment i think i should let the Thermal paste cure to get the temps even lower....

Sorry :o

you may consider to hang a second pump in your setup, the TT ones are fairly weak, they only count as "flowbooster" for me :P using mine for exactly that!;)

EDIT: also, consider a smaller heatercore from a car. like mine,just smaller. thats pretty cheap,and will bring murderous achievements :D

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 02:40 AM

should make up a pretty decent cruncher, server, and backup rig;)

i would also pair it up with a 4850 1gb(card in my specs will be put in it and will replace the 4850 thats in the i7 with something in the 5xxx) also would be packed in a Tt Lanbox Lite or some other small ass case. It would be used for crunching,backup,server,Lan box and any other odd task that i want :laugh:

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 02:43 AM

this one maybe? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163112

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 02:44 AM

i would also pair it up with a 4850 1gb(card in my specs will be put in it and will replace the 4850 thats in the i7 with something in the 5xxx) also would be packed in a Tt Lanbox Lite or some other small ass case. It would be used for crunching,backup,server,Lan box and any other odd task that i want :laugh:

i still need to design such a device, but currently ineed an matx case for that:o

p_o_s_pc

Feb 13, 2010, 02:47 AM

this one maybe? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163112

that is one of the ones i am considering and its cheaper then the Tt one i was looking at. I will look more tomorrow but i am going to bed. i still have a while before i even have the $$ to buy things.

trt740

Feb 13, 2010, 03:13 AM

Well my new 955 c3 is not as good as some i'm seeing here. When I returned from the movie my chip failed prime. It seems to need 1.5v to hit 4.0ghz prime stable small ftt. On stock voltage it will do 3.8ghz. It might be this board since it only increases voltage at .25 increments. The chip might need a bit less voltage with a few more tweaks, but this boardfs a bit limited. However, I'm still testing. Still not a bad chip compared to the old 945es C2 I had. This chip very cool running.

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 03:16 AM

Well my new 955 c3 is not as good as some i'm seeing here. When I returned from the movie my chip failed prime,.

fullinfusion grabbed a really nice Chip there. i never heard of someone beeing able to pull it to such high clocks without major problems, or a real great amount of time;)

trt740

Feb 13, 2010, 03:18 AM

fullinfusion grabbed a really nice Chip there. i never heard of someone beeing able to pull it to such high clocks without major problems, or a real great amount of time;)

It seems my chip is just average, hitting 4.0ghz stable, with ram at ddr3 1600, using 1.5v on the core seems about right, with the northbridge at 1.3v. I tried every trick I know from disabling legacy usb search, to spread spectrum, but this boards bios seems a bit limited from what I'm used to. Still it is very fast and i'm pretty happy with it so far.

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 03:28 AM

It seems my chip is just average, hitting 4.0ghz stable, with ram at ddr3 1600, using 1.5v on the core seems about right, with the northbridge at 1.3v. I tried every trick I know from disabling legacy usb search, to spread spectrum, but this boards bios seems a bit limited from what I'm used to. Still it is very fast and i'm pretty happy with it so far.

your NB speed will be your Bottleneck. no matter what people say, i believe Ram read speed has to be equal to NB read speed. over 3000mhz, you probably wont feel big improvements. your memory has to be very fast, to be in need of such high NB. i use 2800, thats really snappy, and i cant complain, even if it runs on 3.7, its still faster then 4ghz and 2400 nb, in my opinion:)

eidairaman1

Feb 13, 2010, 03:30 AM

trt740

Feb 13, 2010, 03:38 AM

i heard of some gigabyte boards requiring a keyboard command at boot up to get to the advanced user settings.

yes, ctrl f1 it's on all gigabyte boards.

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 03:40 AM

yes, ctrl f1 it's on all gigabyte boards.

really on all?

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 03:40 AM

think so

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 03:41 AM

think so

cool,maybe the board of a buddy is more capable than i thought!:)

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 03:42 AM

im not sure then:P

i think DFI boards haf F9 or something like that

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 03:57 AM

im not sure then:P

i think DFI boards haf F9 or something like that

its a gigabyte with nforce 530 if i remember right;)

trt740

Feb 13, 2010, 04:01 AM

really on all?

yes every one I have seen has hidden setting using those buttons.

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 05:30 AM

not the 4 ghz i wanted but still a win!;)

wait till my rad is fanned up, then i might see my 4 :D

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33230&d=1266042612

Chicken Patty

Feb 13, 2010, 05:51 AM

only every time i boot a phenom lol

lol no one said 4.2ghz on water was bad i just can't do it with what i got on me right now so i get frustrated haha

hey its not cheating to have DICE and at least i have cas 7 timings and those are loose IMO

only like $300 :banghead: :p
It ain't cheating, just not fair when you're comparing your clocks to someones who's on water :slap:

Kei

Feb 13, 2010, 05:58 AM

I've noticed that on Gigabyte boards Ctrl+F1 gives you the hidden options, and on ASUS boards it's just F4. If the board has hidden options (some have finally stopped hiding things) that's always been the way I've found them.

Kei

Chicken Patty

Feb 13, 2010, 06:00 AM

fullinfusion

Feb 13, 2010, 06:16 AM

not the 4 ghz i wanted but still a win!;)

wait till my rad is fanned up, then i might see my 4 :D

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33230&d=1266042612
nice bro but look at what I came up with in the past hour.... i converted 2 movies and ran OCCT for an hour with out any problems.... the volts are stock @ 1.35... I see the tpu image up-loader is down atm so I'll type what Im running,,,,

cpu clock 3.94.37GHz
cpu volts 1.35v
ht 2070
NB 2691
Dram freq 1656MHz
timings @ 7.7.6.15.25 1T

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 06:46 AM

nice bro but look at what I came up with in the past hour.... i converted 2 movies and ran OCCT for an hour with out any problems.... the volts are stock @ 1.35... I see the tpu image up-loader is down atm so I'll type what Im running,,,,

cpu clock 3.94.37GHz
cpu volts 1.35v
ht 2070
NB 2691
Dram freq 1656MHz
timings @ 7.7.6.15.25 1T

pretty nice! i need an Overkill Water Setup,to achieve this:D

YautjaLord

Feb 13, 2010, 01:33 PM

not the 4 ghz i wanted but still a win!;)

wait till my rad is fanned up, then i might see my 4 :D

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33230&d=1266042612

Aside that i had BSOD right after played Crysis on 1920x1200 - i could've reached 3.7-3.8GHz on stock AMD's HSF. Nice clock nevertheless & I ENVY YOU !!!!! Where the F*** IS MY TRUE ???!!!! :laugh: 3.6GHz @ stock 1.35volts for CPU & it's rev. C2 CPU i have. I beleive once the TRUE, ChillFactor/ChillFactor 2 & 2 120mm fans will be bought i'll be able to catch up with you. Just need to wait til the end of this month (~2 weeks left) & i'll have 'em all. :rockout:

*EDIT*

I have no f***ing idea why, but ImageHost not showing dump properly. Here is the tumbnail then - LinX 1h 5min run @ 3.6GHz, next up the 2h run (it's still running while i post this) :

YautjaLord

Feb 13, 2010, 04:12 PM

Last attachment for now (til i get TRUE & stuff), 2+ hours run of LinX @ 3.6GHz :

(FIH) The Don

Feb 13, 2010, 04:14 PM

thats is great on stock cooling man!

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 04:19 PM

:p
It ain't cheating, just not fair when you're comparing your clocks to someones who's on water :slap:

you ram isn't cooled any better than mine so whats with cas8 :slap: :laugh:

YautjaLord

Feb 13, 2010, 07:12 PM

thats is great on stock cooling man!

Thanx & i hope to achieve that 4.0GHz on TRUE. 2 questions relating to it : 1) which of 2 is better Chill Factor 1 or 2 & 2) 1.40-145v for CPU to reach 4.0GHz is enough, or what ? Thanx again. :rockout:

trt740

Feb 13, 2010, 09:45 PM

Thanx & i hope to achieve that 4.0GHz on TRUE. 2 questions relating to it : 1) which of 2 is better Chill Factor 1 or 2 & 2) 1.40-145v for CPU to reach 4.0GHz is enough, or what ? Thanx again. :rockout:

Not for mine it's not, it needs 1.5v on air, but from what I read these chips can take up to 1.55v 24/7. My meg keeps the chip below 48c on the cores 24/7 under 100 percent load, so your True should as well. I would try to hang around 1.5v or lower.

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 09:53 PM

YautjaLord

Feb 13, 2010, 11:07 PM

Not for mine it's not, it needs 1.5v on air, but from what I read these chips can take up to 1.55v 24/7. My meg keeps the chip below 48c on the cores 24/7 under 100 percent load, so your True should as well. I would try to hang around 1.5v or lower.

For F***s Sake Israel - why, OH WHY those firms not tell you anything !!!!!!!!!!!! Beleive me, no, beleive me i asked the people @ the local PC stores around where i live - they don't have a clue of what Prolimatech, let alone what Megahalem is & from what i read/saw Megahalem is praised not less than TRUE. :laugh: Yeah i know 1.55v is the max overvolt for Phenom II OC that's been advertised by AMD. Good thing israeli tech guys love Thermalright. :) 1.45-1.50v then, deal.

1.475-1.5v should be about right on air and trt is correct 1.55v is specified by AMD as the max 24/7 voltage

^And again. :) Thanx dude.

P.S. What about Chill Factor ? What better 1 or 2 ?

Velvet Wafer

Feb 13, 2010, 11:15 PM

For F***s Sake Israel - why, OH WHY those firms not tell you anything !!!!!!!!!!!! Beleive me, no, beleive me i asked the people @ the local PC stores around where i live - they don't have a clue of what Prolimatech, let alone what Megahalem is & from what i read/saw Megahalem is praised not less than TRUE. :laugh: Yeah i know 1.55v is the max overvolt for Phenom II OC that's been advertised by AMD. Good thing israeli tech guys love Thermalright. :) 1.45-1.50v then, deal.

^And again. :) Thanx dude.
No one calling himself Tech, is a Tech:laugh:
the Real masters hide themselves.
i can draw your example for German "Techs" also;)
they all seem to believe they know something relevant:laugh:
fuck them. you wont find better Guys than here, or better Information sources;)

Aside that i had BSOD right after played Crysis on 1920x1200 - i could've reached 3.7-3.8GHz on stock AMD's HSF. Nice clock nevertheless & I ENVY YOU !!!!! Where the F*** IS MY TRUE ???!!!! :laugh: 3.6GHz @ stock 1.35volts for CPU & it's rev. C2 CPU i have. I beleive once the TRUE, ChillFactor/ChillFactor 2 & 2 120mm fans will be bought i'll be able to catch up with you. Just need to wait til the end of this month (~2 weeks left) & i'll have 'em all. :rockout:

*EDIT*

I have no f***ing idea why, but ImageHost not showing dump properly. Here is the tumbnail then - LinX 1h 5min run @ 3.6GHz, next up the 2h run (it's still running while i post this) :
lol. youre trying to win against a car rad on dual pumps. Well see! you need to have a pretty decent chip, to achieve 4 on air.;)

cdawall

Feb 13, 2010, 11:18 PM

eidairaman1

Feb 14, 2010, 12:05 AM

Screw it by the time I get a machine going 890FX will be around

YautjaLord

Feb 14, 2010, 01:30 AM

No one calling himself Tech, is a Tech:laugh:

I meant tech in general, simpler name would be PC store workers. Sorry if confused you or something.

you wont find better Guys than here, or better Information sources;)

Yeah, i know. :laugh:

lol. youre trying to win against a car rad on dual pumps. Well see! you need to have a pretty decent chip, to achieve 4 on air.;)

Dude, i have bought Phenom II 955 & guess what revision is it ? A f***ing C2 !!! Now for the good part : i just hit the 3.6GHz without ever slightly overvolting it (look into my Sys Specs). I saw the default Core voltage was 1.360v in CPU-Z, recalled that when set to AUTO in BIOS it is 1.35v, changed it in BIOS to the said value & throughout entire small multiplier increases never touched it. 'Course i wouldn't reach your frequency on air, but atleast i see a great potential to hit something like 4.0GHz. And thanx for reminding me you have car rad to cool down your CPU !!! :laugh: jk Take care dude.

While @ it : need help in next subject - 2x120mm 19dBa each (20dBa each tops) 50CFM fans ? Do not feel like waking up neighbors with jet take-off sound of fans. :laugh: Noise is an issue in my neighborhood. :)

trt740

Feb 14, 2010, 02:13 AM

this is on Vista 64 with one 73cf fan on a MEG, not great voltage but still decent , ram timing is next

http://img.techpowerup.org/100213/phII4.0ghz.jpg

cdawall

Feb 14, 2010, 02:24 AM

see if you can keep that speed with cas 7 ram and NB is very low?

great clock and temps though :D

Flyordie

Feb 14, 2010, 02:58 AM

Ok, bout to post a thread in the FS/FT section which will contain my X4 920 and maybe some other goodies...

Figured I would give you guys headsup before it goes gold.

trt740

Feb 14, 2010, 03:34 AM

see if you can keep that speed with cas 7 ram and NB is very low?

great clock and temps though :D

my ram won't do it. It just not that tight runing but 1666 is decent, at these speeds ram timing makes very little difference in the real world, lots of testing on that subject and lots of reviews report the same thing.

Wile E

Feb 14, 2010, 03:39 AM

my ram won't do it. It just not that tight runing but 1666 is decent, at these speeds ram timing makes very little difference in the real world, lots of testing on that subject.

What vDimm are you running? And can they at least do CAS8? CAS 9 at that speed actually isn't all that great. That's like DDR2 running CAS5 at 925Mhz. I'd rather try for 1333Mhz CAS6 if I were you.

eidairaman1

Feb 14, 2010, 03:40 AM

I think DDR3 Timings are getting closer to DDR Timings than DDR2 ever did.

Wile E

Feb 14, 2010, 03:42 AM

I think DDR3 Timings are getting closer to DDR Timings than DDR2 ever did.

DDR2 far surpassed DDR a long time ago. Take 1200Mhz CAS5 DDR2. DDR would've had to be able to hit 600Mhz at CAS2.5 to keep up. Not gonna happen for 24/7 use.

trt740

Feb 14, 2010, 03:47 AM

What vDimm are you running? And can they at least do CAS8? CAS 9 at that speed actually isn't all that great. That's like DDR2 running CAS5 at 925Mhz. I'd rather try for 1333Mhz CAS6 if I were you.

DDR2 far surpassed DDR a long time ago. Take 1200Mhz CAS5 DDR2. DDR would've had to be able to hit 600Mhz at CAS2.5 to keep up. Not gonna happen for 24/7 use.

past drr3 1400 timing makes very little real world difference, these new chips, I7 included just cannot use all the bandwith. These are just average ddr3 Giskill nothing special.

and this is a bit better, not bad for a 80.00 motherboard.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100214/4.0ghz phenom.jpg

Wile E

Feb 14, 2010, 03:49 AM

past drr3 1400 timing makes very little real world difference, these new chips, I7 included just cannot use all the bandwith.You are absolutely correct about the bandwidth, but you are forgetting latency. 1333 cas6 would be faster overall.

trt740

Feb 14, 2010, 04:03 AM

You are absolutely correct about the bandwidth, but you are forgetting latency. 1333 cas6 would be faster overall.

Yes but this ram was 84.00 and faster than what ? Ram timing is the least important part of these new systems might make a 3 percent difference if that. I can run those speeds at ddr3 1333 7 cas no problem. Also with these quad 4.0ghz with bus at 250 is no small thing.

Wile E

Feb 14, 2010, 04:05 AM

Yes but this ram was 84.00 and faster than what ? Ram timing is the least important part of these new systems might make a 3 percent difference if that. I can run those speeds at ddr3 1333 7 cas no problem. Also with these quad 4.0ghz with bus at 250 is no small thing.

3% is still 3%, and 1333 at a tight timing would be easier on the IMC. I'm not knocking your ram, I'm just saying 1333 CAS6 would be better if you can do it.

trt740

Feb 14, 2010, 04:09 AM

3% is still 3%, and 1333 at a tight timing would be easier on the IMC. I'm not knocking your ram, I'm just saying 1333 CAS6 would be better if you can do it.

I know your not knocking it, how can ya for 84.00. It was a steal, but ram isn't important to me really. Also this is a Vista 64 overclock, with a Phenom II x4, with 250 bus speed, on a 80.00 motherboard, using a 84.00 ram. I think it's okay not stellar, but you get what you pay for, and I payed very little for this level of performance. However, even after all that it's fast as hell. Also this motherboard doesn't like a high northbridge speeds it gets goofy around 2500.

This is my ram but I got it on sale for about 20.00 less http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277&cm_re=gskill-_-20-231-277-_-Product

real fast cas 7 run and my xmp ram rating

http://img.techpowerup.org/100214/testing.jpg

cdawall

Feb 14, 2010, 05:00 AM

my ram won't do it. It just not that tight runing but 1666 is decent, at these speeds ram timing makes very little difference in the real world, lots of testing on that subject and lots of reviews report the same thing.

ram may make very little difference in real world i'll take that however your NB at 2250mhz is not as unnoticed real world thats linked in with your L3 cache and all that other good stuff and phenom's do use that L3 in encoding and all your other daily tasks. evven if you have to loose some ram speed pick up the NB speed its what sets apart benchmarks not the ram.

Velvet Wafer

Feb 14, 2010, 05:09 AM

I meant tech in general, simpler name would be PC store workers. Sorry if confused you or something.

Yeah, i know. :laugh:

Dude, i have bought Phenom II 955 & guess what revision is it ? A f***ing C2 !!! Now for the good part : i just hit the 3.6GHz without ever slightly overvolting it (look into my Sys Specs). I saw the default Core voltage was 1.360v in CPU-Z, recalled that when set to AUTO in BIOS it is 1.35v, changed it in BIOS to the said value & throughout entire small multiplier increases never touched it. 'Course i wouldn't reach your frequency on air, but atleast i see a great potential to hit something like 4.0GHz. And thanx for reminding me you have car rad to cool down your CPU !!! :laugh: jk Take care dude.

While @ it : need help in next subject - 2x120mm 19dBa each (20dBa each tops) 50CFM fans ? Do not feel like waking up neighbors with jet take-off sound of fans. :laugh: Noise is an issue in my neighborhood. :)

therefore i told you to get a c3 965, because they cant be c2;)
3.6 ghz on stock volts are decent, for a stock cooler. I admit mine never saw an air cooler in all its life, only for 5 minutes, as i tested if its DOA as it arrived;)
regarding fans: buy enermay magma. theyre quiet and powerful. and have double the air pressure of an ordinary fan.:D

Kei

Feb 14, 2010, 05:35 AM

Dude, i have bought Phenom II 955 & guess what revision is it ? A f***ing C2 !!!

lol, I wouldn't exactly be upset that you got a C2 model. Mine is a C2 as well and is awesome on air cooling...might be even better on water cooling. I've already hit 4Ghz on a budget $80 motherboard. If I'm totally honest, I'm actually afraid to get a C3 for fear that it might not be able to do the same things my C2 can do lol.

ram may make very little difference in real world i'll take that however your NB at 2250mhz is not as unnoticed real world thats linked in with your L3 cache and all that other good stuff and phenom's do use that L3 in encoding and all your other daily tasks. evven if you have to loose some ram speed pick up the NB speed its what sets apart benchmarks not the ram.

Amen, northbridge makes all the difference in the world. I'm still big on ram timings since they're still very important especially in reference to stress on the IMC. 1333Mhz cas6 is fantasticly responsive for daily usage so if you can get it then absolutely go for it. 1600Mhz cas7 just isn't the same, but if that's the best that you can get (try 1333Mhz cas6 first of course) then make sure that you can get your northbridge speed up high enough to match.

I keep my systems memory read and L3 read speed as close to equal as possible, if any one has to be marginally higher then the L3 is the one...but marginally higher. It produces a fantastic responsiveness in the system, and isn't that hard to get.

1333Mhz cas6 when paired with 2250Mhz Northbridge is a thing of beauty! Make sure that you keep the cpu speed in mind when looking for those goals. If your cpu speed is too low you'll have to run a much higher northbridge speed in order to make the memory and L3 read match...but then you're still out of whack because the system is lopsided with too high a northbridge speed and too low a cpu speed. :)

Kei

Velvet Wafer

Feb 14, 2010, 05:45 AM

lol, I wouldn't exactly be upset that you got a C2 model. Mine is a C2 as well and is awesome on air cooling...might be even better on water cooling. I've already hit 4Ghz on a budget $80 motherboard. If I'm totally honest, I'm actually afraid to get a C3 for fear that it might not be able to do the same things my C2 can do lol.

Amen, northbridge makes all the difference in the world. I'm still big on ram timings since they're still very important especially in reference to stress on the IMC. 1333Mhz cas6 is fantasticly responsive for daily usage so if you can get it then absolutely go for it. 1600Mhz cas7 just isn't the same, but if that's the best that you can get (try 1333Mhz cas6 first of course) then make sure that you can get your northbridge speed up high enough to match.

I keep my systems memory read and L3 read speed as close to equal as possible, if any one has to be marginally higher then the L3 is the one...but marginally higher. It produces a fantastic responsiveness in the system, and isn't that hard to get.

1333Mhz cas6 when paired with 2250Mhz Northbridge is a thing of beauty! Make sure that you keep the cpu speed in mind when looking for those goals. If your cpu speed is too low you'll have to run a much higher northbridge speed in order to make the memory and L3 read match...but then you're still out of whack because the system is lopsided with too high a northbridge speed and too low a cpu speed. :)

Kei

im addicted to NB speed! and to responsiveness! nothing will be as snappy on AMD as ddr3 1250+ with cas 5, and really high NB speeds, like 2600+ !!
I LOVE IT!:laugh:

erocker

Feb 14, 2010, 06:21 AM

Little did I realize, I never installed my SB driver during my last O/S install and took a couple days to remember. AMD doesn't make these easy to find, but if you have an AMD chipset and find yourself reinstalling your O/S, always remember to install these:

http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx

Select: Motherboard/Integrated Video Drivers --> Individual Drivers (Motherboard/Chipset) [select your O/S] --> South Bridge Driver.

You can also find your AHCI and RAID drivers in there.

Chicken Patty

Feb 14, 2010, 06:25 AM

crazyeyesreaper

Feb 14, 2010, 06:38 AM

i still gotta wait to install win7 jj gave me a key or 2 but arg doing the wallpaper for him is harder then expected so i cant reinstall yet -____-

trt740

Feb 14, 2010, 02:10 PM

ram may make very little difference in real world i'll take that however your NB at 2250mhz is not as unnoticed real world thats linked in with your L3 cache and all that other good stuff and phenom's do use that L3 in encoding and all your other daily tasks. evven if you have to loose some ram speed pick up the NB speed its what sets apart benchmarks not the ram.

Little did I realize, I never installed my SB driver during my last O/S install and took a couple days to remember. AMD doesn't make these easy to find, but if you have an AMD chipset and find yourself reinstalling your O/S, always remember to install these:

http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx

Select: Motherboard/Integrated Video Drivers --> Individual Drivers (Motherboard/Chipset) [select your O/S] --> South Bridge Driver.

You can also find your AHCI and RAID drivers in there.

Good one, thanks bro. I'll be doing my re install of W7 shortly, soon as I receive my SSD. :toast:

Can you guys give me some northbridge speeds and htt, that I should shoot for, my ram is lower end, but northbridge and htt can be raised. I can do 3.7 ghz at default with bothN/B / HTT at 2500 and use cas 8 at ddr3 1600 or cas 7 at ddr3 1333. I'm sure I can go higher on the core but messing with the HTT/ NB for now.

YautjaLord

Feb 14, 2010, 02:15 PM

lol, I wouldn't exactly be upset that you got a C2 model. Mine is a C2 as well and is awesome on air cooling...might be even better on water cooling. I've already hit 4Ghz on a budget $80 motherboard. If I'm totally honest, I'm actually afraid to get a C3 for fear that it might not be able to do the same things my C2 can do lol.

therefore i told you to get a c3 965, because they cant be c2;)
3.6 ghz on stock volts are decent, for a stock cooler. I admit mine never saw an air cooler in all its life, only for 5 minutes, as i tested if its DOA as it arrived;)
regarding fans: buy enermay magma. theyre quiet and powerful. and have double the air pressure of an ordinary fan.:D

See what Kei said, add me to it+better for me now to wait for Thuban (plus that GF100 DX11 card, i guess) & you'll know how happy i'm with current situation, Wafer. :laugh: To get these clocks out of rev. C2 CPU - i say, IT'S ALIVE !!!!!! :roll: This 3.6GHz is probably 24/7 (or something like that) gaming/web browsing/movie watching clock, til i get my hands on TRUE.

Enermay ? You mean Enermax maybe ? I'll check for it. Thanx. How much CFM & dBa are the best ones ? What about Thermalright's own or Scythe's S-Flex ? Thanx again. :toast:

JrRacinFan

Feb 14, 2010, 02:28 PM

Any insight on hwo I can improve this?
http://img.techpowerup.org/100214/Capture087.jpg

CL7 Isn't memtest stable, even up to 1.8v, and chip won't unlock.

Velvet Wafer

Feb 14, 2010, 02:32 PM

Any insight on hwo I can improve this?
http://img.techpowerup.org/100214/Capture087.jpg

CL7 Isn't memtest stable, even up to 1.8v, and chip won't unlock.

lower the divider maybe, some procs have a fairly weak IMC, and dont like NB clocking and Ram Timing at that Ram Speed;)
it helped very good with mine!

IF i were you, Xanlord, i would have ripped my Hair out :D Or bought me some better cooler,upon buying the Phenom.
sry for that Typo, i really meant Enermax. i really dont care about fan data, its bullshit. i hold my hand in front of it, to feel how good a fan is.
the Enermax are the Best, regarding that Test. they get REALLY cool. and look stylish too,also their blades are detachable ;-)

JrRacinFan

Feb 14, 2010, 02:36 PM

Will report back with a mem bench screenshot on the 1066 divider. :)

EDIT:

http://img.techpowerup.org/100214/Capture088.jpg

Was able to change a few timings too. Notice L1 latency went up and L3 latency dropped. Hmmmm....

cdawall

Feb 14, 2010, 03:00 PM

@jr have you tried to see if your wifes board will unlock your chip correctly?

Can you guys give me some northbridge speeds and htt, that I should shoot for, my ram is lower end, but northbridge and htt can be raised. I can do 3.7 ghz at default with bothN/B / HTT at 2500 and use cas 8 at ddr3 1600 or cas 7 at ddr3 1333. I'm sure I can go higher on the core but messing with the HTT/ NB for now.

HTT link is unimportant most chips can do over 3ghz HT link no issues shoot for a NB around 2800mhz and the ram at 1600 cas8 isn't to bad i would push that