The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[Irony]

Whats the deal with your timings?

[catnipkiller]

set ram to what its showing in the spd this pic the fixed timings
http://img.techpowerup.org/120103/5463154631543154631.jpg

[scaminatrix]

Hmmm... guys I got a bit of a problem.

I upgraded from my old 555 BE (I had the NB frequency set to 2400/2600 on it) to this 1055t but now I can't change the NB Frequency in my BIOS to over 2000. 2000 is the highest number.
Anyone got any ideas? *looks at people with same mobo and maybe CPU*

MaxMemm shows this:

[Irony]

set ram to what its showing in the spd this pic the fixed timings
http://img.techpowerup.org/120103/5463154631543154631.jpg

Thats odd. You got better results with ridiculous timings.

Hmmm... guys I got a bit of a problem.

I upgraded from my old 555 BE (I had the NB frequency set to 2400/2600 on it) to this 1055t but now I can't change the NB Frequency in my BIOS to over 2000. 2000 is the highest number.
Anyone got any ideas? *looks at people with same mobo and maybe CPU*

MaxMemm shows this:

You might have to raise the FSB to where you want the NB and then pull other speeds back down.

[scaminatrix]

You might have to raise the FSB to where you want the NB and then pull other speeds back down.

Damn, I was hoping I could just set it like with my 555 BE. What a kafuffle :laugh:


EDIT: Thanks for the help Irony, I updated BIOS and OC'ed FSB to 240 and backed multi down to 13 and I'm getting there.
Noob question incoming: (I see different answers to this question all the time)

My RAM is at 1600 7-7-7-21 at 1.5v. What NB freq. and HT link should I aim for?

[catnipkiller]

this ram is just something to hold me over until my new ram shows up. and should i run ddr3 in t1 or t2?

[scaminatrix]

this ram is just something to hold me over until my new ram shows up. and should i run ddr3 in t1 or t2?

In the days of DDR2 I heard the phrase thrown around "the difference between 1T and 2T is massive" but these days, it's apparently not so much of a big gain.

I would say, if you can get 1T then go for it but if it's hindering your overall speeds then leave it at 2T. 1T is better.

[scaminatrix]

Sorry for double post.

Noob question incoming: (I see different answers to this question all the time)

My RAM is at 1600 7-7-7-21 at 1.5v. What NB freq. and HT link should I aim for?

[Chicken Patty]

As far as NB, you should be able to get at least 2600-2800 MHz out of it.

[Irony]

Sorry for double post.

Noob question incoming: (I see different answers to this question all the time)

My RAM is at 1600 7-7-7-21 at 1.5v. What NB freq. and HT link should I aim for?

Those are good timings. Try to get the NB as high as you can without too much voltage. It makes a great difference in RAM performance. I've heard that HT is best left a bit lower, and I've also heard that its better at the same speed as NB. I personally can't tell a big difference.

[Chicken Patty]

I usually don't click my HT and if I do not much. NB on the other hand is a must.

[scaminatrix]

Okay I'll try for more.

I haven't touched any voltages so far. I've been upping FSB and lowering multi so I don't end up OC'ing the CPU and needing more voltage (I'm a stock voltage guy). I'm aiming for highest NB possible that's suitable for my RAM but I'm also trying to keep the CPU at stock speeds-ish. This is a mini-challenge for me!


EDIT: Looking good. This is comfy for me and it seems everything's still at stock voltage. Gonna stress it and see what happens. New screenshot in attachments, plus a comparison of all 3 tests. Cheers guys, you've helped me net a 25%-ish increase from stock settings!

[scaminatrix]

Upped multi to 11x to get CPU at 3.3GHz. Maxmemm results and temps after Prime95:

(Last double post I promise)

[brandonwh64]

Ok fellas! I just picked up a M3A78-CM for 16$! It may or may not be working but I will be testing as soon as I get a CPU.

This was the first real good AMD board I ever owned and when I seen it for 16$ I snagged it up. hell if it dont work I can make a wall ornament out of it!

[catnipkiller]

good luck on your mobo ^^
played with the nb a bit but its stable like this atm
http://img.techpowerup.org/120104/MaxxMEM2_j2119.jpg

[de.das.dude]

scaminatrix the 1055t is a non BE cpu.
You need to upp the fsb to be able to do anything.

Try upping fsb to 260, and then selecting proper mem devider and cpu multiplier.
I wuld help, but i dont knw dram:fsb ratios for ddr3.

[Daigle]

Alrighty, I come to you humble in search for advice.

I bought my current computer back in summer 2010 and ever since it's been used daily and it's on pretty much 24/7. Here are my original components:

- NZXT Beta Evo case
- FSB SAGA II 500W PSU
- LG DVD
- Asus M4A785TD-EVO
- ATI HD5670
- WD 640GB HDD
- 2x 2gb 1333mhz Kingston RAM
- Logitech S520 wireless keyboard&mouse
- AMD Phenom II 555BE

Since then, during my move to Ireland, the gfx card broke during delivery but since it was decent and cheap, I got another one just like it. Then when moving back to Finland, it broke again in my luggage despite I took it off and protected as well as I could.

So I got a new gfx card last summer, ATI HD 6870 which has been wonderful and working without any problems.

Then lately I started to feel a bit uncomfortable with the CPU. So I tried finding a new one that would be sufficient to my needs (gaming, Photoshop and HD video). So I turned into Phenom II 1055T. Nice CPU... But one problem came along with it. (Also bought 8gb Kingston HyperX Genesis 1600mhz RAM)

I installed it and it's working fine performance wise, but the damn fan is sooooo noisy not to mention the temps are high as hell. This is a screenshot of my HW Monitor while typing this message:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37321822/img_2012-01-05-081627.png

All I have open is Chrome, Thunderbird, HW Monitor itself and MSN.

So the temps go down to 30-36 when I'm doing absolutely nothing and when the fan is "having a break". Like just right now it started going nuts again and temps went up to 50 + it's going round 4500 RPM.

If I start playing or anything, the temps go up to even 70 just like that. Did Prime95 yesterday, but stopped it after HW Monitor showed a whopping 98 degrees.

In BIOS the settings are set to default apart from disabling the Turbo Core setting and setting the Loadline to 0% (no disabled option available).

So... My buddy tells me that my motherboard might be the problem right now and the voltages somehow fucked up. I honestly don't have that much knowledge of the hardware side of things. Am more of a software boy myself when it comes to computers. Am just wondering if I can still do something with this or if I should just march into the closest retail store and get a new motherboard. So please help me here?

Thank you very much in advance.

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

Alrighty, I come to you humble in search for advice.

I bought my current computer back in summer 2010 and ever since it's been used daily and it's on pretty much 24/7. Here are my original components:

- NZXT Beta Evo case
- FSB SAGA II 500W PSU
- LG DVD
- Asus M4A785TD-EVO
- ATI HD5670
- WD 640GB HDD
- 2x 2gb 1333mhz Kingston RAM
- Logitech S520 wireless keyboard&mouse
- AMD Phenom II 555BE

Since then, during my move to Ireland, the gfx card broke during delivery but since it was decent and cheap, I got another one just like it. Then when moving back to Finland, it broke again in my luggage despite I took it off and protected as well as I could.

So I got a new gfx card last summer, ATI HD 6870 which has been wonderful and working without any problems.

Then lately I started to feel a bit uncomfortable with the CPU. So I tried finding a new one that would be sufficient to my needs (gaming, Photoshop and HD video). So I turned into Phenom II 1055T. Nice CPU... But one problem came along with it. (Also bought 8gb Kingston HyperX Genesis 1600mhz RAM)

I installed it and it's working fine performance wise, but the damn fan is sooooo noisy not to mention the temps are high as hell. This is a screenshot of my HW Monitor while typing this message:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37321822/img_2012-01-05-081627.png

All I have open is Chrome, Thunderbird, HW Monitor itself and MSN.

So the temps go down to 30-36 when I'm doing absolutely nothing and when the fan is "having a break". Like just right now it started going nuts again and temps went up to 50 + it's going round 4500 RPM.

If I start playing or anything, the temps go up to even 70 just like that. Did Prime95 yesterday, but stopped it after HW Monitor showed a whopping 98 degrees.

In BIOS the settings are set to default apart from disabling the Turbo Core setting and setting the Loadline to 0% (no disabled option available).

So... My buddy tells me that my motherboard might be the problem right now and the voltages somehow fucked up. I honestly don't have that much knowledge of the hardware side of things. Am more of a software boy myself when it comes to computers. Am just wondering if I can still do something with this or if I should just march into the closest retail store and get a new motherboard. So please help me here?

Thank you very much in advance.

Welcome to TPU Daigle....please feel free to click on CP and update your system spec so we can see how you are running. :P :nutkick:

[Daigle]

I've done that already ;)
Did it before posting.

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

I've done that already ;)
Did it before posting.

Well all I got is update your NB and SB chipset.

Dunno why you are running so hot on idle...anybodt else? I say MOBO!!!

[JrRacinFan]

Daigle

Set cpu volts to a constant 1.3v, that will bring down your temps at load. Idle doesnt matter its at load where your cpu can suffer.

[Daigle]

Pardon my newbieness, but how do I set the voltage? :)

If I take the voltages down, doesn't it only make the fan go slower and hence raise the temperatures? Am no electrical engineer and correct me if I'm wrong, but my logic says that the automatic voltage should make sure it's optimized and keeping the CPU safe :)

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

Pardon my newbieness, but how do I set the voltage? :)

If I take the voltages down, doesn't it only make the fan go slower and hence raise the temperatures? Am no electrical engineer and correct me if I'm wrong, but my logic says that the automatic voltage should make sure it's optimized and keeping the CPU safe :)

Daigle...first of all you do not have an aftermarket CPU cooloer. You are using the one that came with your 1055T. DON"T OVERCLOCK.

2nd we disabled Core unlocker and CPU Load Line calibration....you should be good to go at stock.

[Daigle]

Am not trying to overclock. I don't even know how to :)
And though Core unlocker and Loadline have been disabled, how am I supposed to "go good" at stock if the temps are that high? :)

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

Am not trying to overclock. I don't even know how to :)
And though Core unlocker and Loadline have been disabled, how am I supposed to "go good" at stock if the temps are that high? :)

Let's wait for some other suggestions here. Members might have some questions in order to help you.

I say it's your MOBO.

[de.das.dude]

Daigle...first of all you do not have an aftermarket CPU cooloer. You are using the one that came with your 1055T. DON"T OVERCLOCK.

2nd we disabled Core unlocker and CPU Load Line calibration....you should be good to go at stock.

amd's stock is great. My friend does 3.8.


Also dagie, the fan speed depends on temparature. More temp, more speed.
Less volts mean less temp so less fan speed. Also i think u shid have made a separate thread.

[Daigle]

Alright so if I down the volts, I might be okay then?

I went to a computer shop today and talked to a guy over there and he suggested either a new cooler or a mobo. Or both. I'm really not much of an expert with the hw side so he reckoned he could install me a new mobo (Asus M5A97 Pro) and a Zelman CNPS 10x Extreme cooler. All for 244 euros... But I'm baffled if I'm actually willing to invest another 200 euros just to make the previous 200 euros purchase to work. Or if I should go back to 555BE and just shut up.

PS: I thought about starting a new thread, but I've never been posting here and Chao directed me to this thread for posting :)

[Daigle]

Are there any risks of using lower CPU VCORE voltage? I tried 1.3 and it seemed to work a bit, but then out of curiosity went down to 1.2 and now I get 50 degrees tops even while gaming.

[YautjaLord]

^Downvolting, meaning less power to feed the overclock; find sweet spot. Mine is 1.45v for 4.1GHz; will do nicely for you as well, but also find better cooling: mine is VenomousX.

[theoneandonlymrk]

Diagle, no ones mentioned your cooler might not be seated right or if You applied fresh tim you may have done it too thick ,which is just as bad, if your on the stock cooler as i am did you fit it once or retry fitting it as the tim on it is one time only and a lift and reapply might have balked the tim on it, i say this becuase ive a stock cooler on low revs at 3.8Ghz 1.4 volts and it heats up max to 61 so yours seems a bit odd,


running low volts might induce a bit of instability but shouldnt damge the chip it may crash out more is all but then you could lower clocks , get some new tim and reappy that cooler imho as a first fix attempt its the cheapest and easiest anyway.

an aftermarket cooler is preffered but if your not ocing it isnt neccessary

[scaminatrix]

^^ This.
I would check that the CPU cooler is seated right.
Then reset CMOS (if you didn't do it when upgrading your 1055t from the 555BE)
Set Loadline to 100% and all other calibrations to 100%.
Set voltage to 1.3 and test temps with your favourite program. If stable, then lower the voltage if you like and repeat temp test. Don't make big steps though.

You shouldn't need anything better than a stock cooler when running a 1055t at stock settings so don't spend any money you don't need to spend. 244 euros is extravagant when we can hopefully fix it for free :)
I don't think it's your mobo as you would have had problems with your last CPU if it was.

[brandonwh64]

amd's stock is great. My friend does 3.8.


Also dagie, the fan speed depends on temparature. More temp, more speed.
Less volts mean less temp so less fan speed. Also i think u shid have made a separate thread.

Some stock coolers are nice like the Phenom II heatpipe one.

[theoneandonlymrk]

Some stock coolers are nice like the Phenom II heatpipe one.


did i get gyped i got the smallest shittest cooler ive yet been given with a processor, it was a bonus though as its still built on a box i didnt know you got one with it till i opened the small box and found said v small cooler:)

[Daigle]

The idea isn't to overclock. It's to make it stable with low temps and as less noise as possible.

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

amd's stock is great. My friend does 3.8.




Them dang stock coolers are loud, and your friend is lucky! :p

[theoneandonlymrk]

The idea isn't to overclock. It's to make it stable with low temps and as less noise as possible.

fine reffit the cooler with new tim(thermal paste) as previously suggested first

[scaminatrix]

The idea isn't to overclock. It's to make it stable with low temps and as less noise as possible.

That's my aim too. I wanted the lowest temps with the most optimized stock speeds. This is where voltage comes in. If you can get the voltage as low as you can but keeping your CPU at stocks speeds, the CPU will generate less heat. My last post wasn't getting you to overclock or anything, it's getting the best settings at stock speeds.

Here's the cooler that came with my 1055t, it looks quite good!

[Daigle]

Here are the latest numbers. You can see what's running in the taskbar (Explorer, Chrome, Thunderbird, Spotify, Steam, Trackmania, Football Manager 12, Speedfan, HWM, MSN + systray) :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37321822/img_2012-01-05-155215.png

[scaminatrix]

lol quite a bit running then!
Did you follow the steps in post #13781 (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2507421&postcount=13781)? The BIOS reset is very important if you didn't reset the BIOS when changing CPU.

[Daigle]

That's not even much. I usually have a couple more running :)
I reset BIOS earlier after installing the new CPU. I didn't set the 100%'s nor have I changed the voltages since it's all working very nicely and the temps are lower than ever :)
Only downside right now is the slight noise, but I can live with it.

[brandonwh64]

This is the ONLY decent stock AMD cooler. Most Phenom II's came with them.

http://computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/amd-s-redesigned-stock-heat-sink/227923-1-eng-US/amd-s-redesigned-stock-heat-sink.jpg

[JrRacinFan]

The only other suggestion I have for you if you're not liking the noise is to pickup a new cooler. The volt settings could be optimized further but if you're happy then no need to worry.

Also the drop in voltage is due to C1E and Cool n Quiet being enabled. They are power/thermal saving optimizations in bios. What was also previously stated about Turbo, you could disable it but for now those temps look much much better.

[AthlonX2]

These are my temps with 1090T, I cant say what cooler im using right now but its pretty good

http://img.techpowerup.org/120105/sceen.jpg

[MGF Derp]

Nvrmind. I see its been covered and I wasn't on the last page of the thread, lol.

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

The only other suggestion I have for you if you're not liking the noise is to pickup a new cooler. The volt settings could be optimized further but if you're happy then no need to worry.

Also the drop in voltage is due to C1E and Cool n Quiet being enabled. They are power/thermal saving optimizations in bios. What was also previously stated about Turbo, you could disable it but for now those temps look much much better.

Thx Jr, I forgot to tell him about cool n quiet .:wtf:

[JrRacinFan]

Thx Jr, I forgot to tell him about cool n quiet .:wtf:

Anytime, yeah I do have flub-ups every once in a while too!

Also cutting my reign with a Phenom II soon. Switching back to P55 with a i5 655k. Don't worry I will still have my Phenom chips around just not going to be my daily driver.

[de.das.dude]

did i get gyped i got the smallest shittest cooler ive yet been given with a processor, it was a bonus though as its still built on a box i didnt know you got one with it till i opened the small box and found said v small cooler:)

i got that aluminum crap as well. However an exmember from here called magikherbs told me to ask amd for one, and i did and email. They sent me the copper cooler in 3days.

[de.das.dude]

also i think there is someone with a john deere siggy. Can i knw who? Just saw a billboard with that name in same color in orissa, 200kms from my home :p

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

I just bought a second HD6870!!!! :rockout: Wooohooo! toys toys toys!!! :)

[AthlonX2]

also i think there is someone with a john deere siggy. Can i knw who? Just saw a billboard with that name in same color in orissa, 200kms from my home :p

im not sure who that was

[brandonwh64]

I remember my old M3A78-CM motherboard! It made my 940BE OC to 3.9Ghz 1.55V and 3.8Ghz 1.47V. Hope this board (If it works) OC's nicely!

[scaminatrix]

im not sure who that was

:roll::roll:

[brandonwh64]

Memory Lane :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/brandonwh64/newvc2.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/brandonwh64/AMDoc2.jpg

[Irony]

Somebody probably said all this, skipped a page or 2. :D

@Diagle: CPU core voltage should be at 1.325 I think, stock. Leave it alone. CPU voltage doesnt have anything to do with fan voltage or speed, so dont worry about that. Fan is controlled by Cool n Quiet, so you should probably leave it enabled if you want quiet.

Also, the real temps on these Phenom IIs is about 10c higher than software states, so keep that in mind. If it says 42 then you're at 52 +/-.

Thermal paste is massively important, Make sure your fan is seated on the CPU and that TIM is not too thick.


Edit: I have a friend that wants to spend $125 on a new Graphics card. I told him 6770 or 550ti. Does anyone know of a better card for the moneys? Also, he's upgrading from a 5450, so just about anything would change his world.

[AthlonX2]

I have a friend that wants to spend $125 on a new Graphics card. I told him 6770 or 550ti. Does anyone know of a better card for the moneys? Also, he's upgrading from a 5450, so just about anything would change his world.

if he wants to stick with DX11 a 450/550ti if not get a GTX280/285

[MGF Derp]

Somebody probably said all this, skipped a page or 2. :D

@Diagle: CPU core voltage should be at 1.325 I think, stock. Leave it alone. CPU voltage doesnt have anything to do with fan voltage or speed, so dont worry about that. Fan is controlled by Cool n Quiet, so you should probably leave it enabled if you want quiet.

Also, the real temps on these Phenom IIs is about 10c higher than software states, so keep that in mind. If it says 42 then you're at 52 +/-.

Thermal paste is massively important, Make sure your fan is seated on the CPU and that TIM is not too thick.


Edit: I have a friend that wants to spend $125 on a new Graphics card. I told him 6770 or 550ti. Does anyone know of a better card for the moneys? Also, he's upgrading from a 5450, so just about anything would change his world.

Can get used 460 1Gb and 6850 for that price. Look around and you will see.

[Irony]

Also, what board would one need to unlock a 960T? The same fiend also wants to get a 960T and wants to know how sure he can be that it will unlock.

[Norton]

Also, what board would one need to unlock a 960T? The same fiend also wants to get a 960T and wants to know how sure he can be that it will unlock.

Any board with at least a SB750 Southbridge should do it w/proper BIOS support for the CPU (not sure about SB700 or 710?)

I just picked up a 960T and will be trying to unlock it on several boards if I can find the time this weekend. I can post results when I do if anyone's interested.

My boards:

-Asus M5A99 (AM3+, 990X/SB950)
-Gigabyte 890XA-UD3 (AM3, 790X/SB850), unlocked a PII X2 555 Black w/no problem
-MSI DKA-790GX Platinum (AM2+, 790GX/SB750) unlocked PII X3 720 Black (fourth core unstable)

[theoneandonlymrk]

Also, what board would one need to unlock a 960T? The same fiend also wants to get a 960T and wants to know how sure he can be that it will unlock.

its not deffinate untill its done check my sig rig:banghead:

[Irony]

Good luck, I'll be waiting. :toast: His board is an MSI 760G with 710 sb. If it won't unlock on his board, I have an ASUS 880G to give him.

[Norton]

its not deffinate untill its done check my sig rig:banghead:

I have a good shot. 3 generations of boards, 3 different manufacturers, and 3 different southbridges :cool:

Gonna try them all so if I can't get it unlocked and stable on any of these, it's likely the chip- and not the boards

[theoneandonlymrk]

not much kip last night went bed 9 this morn but on whole worth it, ive waterblocked my 960T and after a harsh night of resets ive got it running at 4.2, needs high core volts but i may be missing something and ill be retweeking when i get it in its case ,what dya think?

pic ere45121

[PHaS3]

Hey guys! Hope you don't mind, I thought I would pitch in.

Upgraded to the Phenom II x6 1100T in December. I have it running at 3.8GHz, 2200MHz NB, all on stock voltage and cooling :D

Here are some pics::

45123

45124

[JrRacinFan]

@1 and only mrk

What's your max load temp?

[theoneandonlymrk]

What's your max load temp?

AOD says 30 on any core Asus AI says chip gets to about 54 max but I think thatll improve as it was 4am when i waterblocked it and due to it bein temperalily on box built i stupidly got baffled and put loop in wrong order gfx cpu rad res but ill sort that on final build and itll get 320 more rad then too, waiting on payday for a mobo waterblock(just nb and vrms)and a wb for the 5850


to be honest its not primed stable just stable in use and has ran all benches trulely and sweet, sandra (many times) all the main 3dmarks ciniengine etc ill prime it when cooling and pc are complete and push on for 4.5:)

[brandonwh64]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34835733/cruncher.jpg

[theoneandonlymrk]

welll i got 4.3 prime stable with a fair amount of volts all round but ive backed it off a bit till my mobo wb's fitted(and bought), lovein phenomIIs just wish id got it earlier and a six core but ah well plenty to fiddle with,love it

nice oc brandonwh64 , i didnt realise you were crunching , good on ya ill be foldin for tpu when i get it boxed

[Senupe]

Hello guys, i'm trying to overclock on this little girl in my sisters PC, but i can't even boot up at 3.6GHz with 1.4V on VCore, 1.26V on Northbridge (@2150MHz), 1.55V on RAM (8Gb 1333MHz @ 1433Mhz 9-9-9-28), the cooling it's stock but i'm not planing going too far just (3.6 or more if it's posible ;)) i tested the ram before at that speed and seemed to work, i don't know what it's the problem here.
I think i'm going to let the RAM at lower speed and the northbridge at less than 2000MHz. but really don't know if that's going to help me =/
The Processori'm using it's Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition.

[JrRacinFan]

Try running your HT link at the same speed as the CPU-NB. Might be one of those picky boards.

@Irony

See if you can get a 2nd hand hd6850, I've seen them go for around $120.

[Chicken Patty]

Hello guys, i'm trying to overclock on this little girl in my sisters PC, but i can't even boot up at 3.6GHz with 1.4V on VCore, 1.26V on Northbridge (@2150MHz), 1.55V on RAM (8Gb 1333MHz @ 1433Mhz 9-9-9-28), the cooling it's stock but i'm not planing going too far just (3.6 or more if it's posible ;)) i tested the ram before at that speed and seemed to work, i don't know what it's the problem here.
I think i'm going to let the RAM at lower speed and the northbridge at less than 2000MHz. but really don't know if that's going to help me =/
The Processori'm using it's Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition.

What voltage are you raising for the Northbridge? The Northbridge, or the CPU Northbridge voltage?

You need to raise the CPU NB voltage.

[LifeOnMars]

Sad to say (sort of) that I'll be leaving the club tomorrow as I'm recieving some new Sandy Bridge goodies. I'll miss the tweaking fun that can be had with Phenom II's but I'm sure looking forward to having some moar power.

Thanks to all the guys who helped me in the thread and contributed to the overall quality banter :)

De Das Dude, Ill miss your crazy overclocking antics LOL

[Chicken Patty]

You'll love messing with SB as well, but SB is just too easy. :laugh: However best of luck and make sure you stop by the SB Overclocking and Feedback Thread. :toast:

[Irony]

Try running your HT link at the same speed as the CPU-NB. Might be one of those picky boards.

@Irony

See if you can get a 2nd hand hd6850, I've seen them go for around $120.

He ended up getting a superclocked 550ti. He's happy; it more than doubled his framerates with skyrim, so hes good. Since thats all he plays.

[JrRacinFan]

He ended up getting a superclocked 550ti. He's happy; it more than doubled his framerates with skyrim, so hes good. Since thats all he plays.

Nice! 550ti is more than enough to push most games high settings no AA.

[Irony]

Yeah, its his first real card. It barely fit in his mini tower case, its like half an inch from the bottom of the case and an inch from the side panel.

And since I crossfired my cards a couple weeks ago, he wants to get a new board and SLI his. he hasnt even had it a week yet, lol

[brandonwh64]

Well turns out the board I got was Completely dead with no way to revive :( MTalex is supplying me a board for my HTPC and I will be using it. Oh well for the memory lane build :(

[JrRacinFan]

Well turns out the board I got was Completely dead with no way to revive :( MTalex is supplying me a board for my HTPC and I will be using it. Oh well for the memory lane build :(

Are you sure it's a dead dream!?

http://tinyurl.com/6zl8ke :D

[brandonwh64]

I doubt they will RMA it, I dont have proof of original purchase :(

[de.das.dude]

Hello guys, i'm trying to overclock on this little girl in my sisters PC, but i can't even boot up at 3.6GHz with 1.4V on VCore, 1.26V on Northbridge (@2150MHz), 1.55V on RAM (8Gb 1333MHz @ 1433Mhz 9-9-9-28), the cooling it's stock but i'm not planing going too far just (3.6 or more if it's posible ;)) i tested the ram before at that speed and seemed to work, i don't know what it's the problem here.
I think i'm going to let the RAM at lower speed and the northbridge at less than 2000MHz. but really don't know if that's going to help me =/
The Processori'm using it's Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition.

945 are poop. they are lemons. specially c3 ones like min. mine wont clock well either. :shadedshu

[JrRacinFan]

I doubt they will RMA it, I dont have proof of original purchase :(

Pretty sure Asus goes by SN.

[brandonwh64]

Pretty sure Asus goes by SN.

I may try it though im doubting I will get back another M3A78-CM

[de.das.dude]

asus goes by serial number. 100% sure. i RMA's my board 2 times already.

[brandonwh64]

I want a M3A78-CM for my memory build. It will mark the first build I ever had with quad core. It will consist of that board with a Phenom II 940BE. I went quite big at the time with my quad core build and loved it until I made the stupid decision to get a 965BE :( Waisted money and time for something that was only alittle faster and used less wattage.

[de.das.dude]

yup going from a quad phenom to another is pretty useless unless you are going from a locked to a BE.

[Athlonite]

yup going from a quad phenom to another is pretty useless unless you are going from a locked to a BE.

Yup I'd have to agree there evan if I can't afford a BD and AM3+ mobo I'd be thinking 1100t or simalar to replace my aging 940BE @ 3.4GHz

but it still runs perfectly fine for Skyrim and CF'd HD5770's

[Chicken Patty]

Let me tell you, I absolutely loved my 1090T over my 940. I know it's a different more potent CPU but it was a complete night and day difference. You'll love the 1100T if you et a hold of one. :D

[PHaS3]

Yup I'd have to agree there evan if I can't afford a BD and AM3 mobo I'd be thinking 1100t or simalar to replace my aging 940BE @ 3.4GHz

but it still runs perfectly fine for Skyrim and CF'd HD5770's

What CP said is true :) The 1100T is an awesome CPU. I'm running one now and its fantastic :D

[Chicken Patty]

What CP said is true :) The 1100T is an awesome CPU. I'm running one now and its fantastic :D

I had the 1090T, but it's prett much the same thing except for clock speed correct?

[Velvet Wafer]

Alright, yesterday i wasnt able to hold it anymore.:o

After more than 2 Years, i bought a Phenom 960T in Hope that 1-2 Cores will unlock, while providing superior ram,CPU and NB clocking capabilities,compared to my aging 955, which seems to be on its slow path to death.

It suddenly refuses many settings which were stable for years before, and that, and the best board i had run it so far (so i dont think this is the Culprit)

Paid 100€ for the 960T and now im kinda curious what it will bring me... could be anything from eternal damnation to everlasting happyness!:laugh:

[JrRacinFan]

Heya VW! Think of them as 1090t's with 2 damaged cores, overclocking is stellar on them. Don't try to unlock it, 37% good 73% bad chances of getting a good stable unlock. Also epending on which SKU you get you might get a black edition. :)

[Chicken Patty]

Congrats on the purchase VW. Looking forward to some results.

[JrRacinFan]

Heya VW! Think of them as 1090t's with 2 damaged cores, overclocking is stellar on them. Don't try to unlock it, 37% good 73% bad chances of getting a good stable unlock. Also epending on which SKU you get you might get a black edition. :)

In addition to that 37% overclocking is limited on some that have been unlocked.

[Velvet Wafer]

Heya VW! Think of them as 1090t's with 2 damaged cores, overclocking is stellar on them. Don't try to unlock it, 37% good 73% bad chances of getting a good stable unlock.
Good Info, thanks! That lightens my Heart quite much!
I have heard that many have damaged cores, so i hoped for a 5 core unlock with a good OC.
OCing the hell out of it is also an option, should the 5 core unlock also fail (i can shut off each single core except the first on this board, so searching the 2 weakest should prove easy)

Maybe finally the 4ghz on a phenom for me,stable? i would be partying! :rockout:

EDIT:
I bought it as a BE version, so its completely unlocked

[JrRacinFan]

Maybe finally the 4ghz on a phenom for me,stable? i would be partying!

Oh yeah definitely. I've seen reports of 4Ghz @ 1.35v. Must add, another reason why i switched back to P55, may end up going SLi in the near future.

[Velvet Wafer]

Oh yeah definitely. I've seen reports of 4Ghz @ 1.35v. Must add, another reason why i switched back to P55, may end up going SLi in the near future.

Would be amazing, this would be dream clocks for me with this old one here :laugh:
SLI works great when hacked, since HyperSLI was released, Nvidia has a hard timing countering it.;)

[JrRacinFan]

No hacked SLi here bro. Got a Max 3 Gene coming today.

[Velvet Wafer]

No hacked SLi here bro. Got a Max 3 Gene coming today.
Nice!:) Why no hacked SLI tho? Could have saved you lots of money!;)

[JrRacinFan]

Nice!:) Why no hacked SLI tho? Could have saved you lots of money!;)

Getting the board in trade. LOL

[scaminatrix]

It suddenly refuses many settings which were stable for years before, and that, and the best board i had run it so far (so i dont think this is the Culprit)

Hey VW :)
I recommend you try to RMA, if possible. I just RMA'd a 555 BE that I didn't even think they would accept. It used to unlock to a quad, but after a few months it started crashing so I kept it as 3 cores. Few months down the line, more crashes, so back to a stable dualie.

Then a couple of months ago it started crashing as a dual even with stock RAM settings. It would work for a whole day, then would crash all the next day and was completely random. I was worried AMD wouldn't accept the RMA because it would be fine for a whole day at a time, but yea, they accepted and were very cool about it. Even got an e-mail that wasn't a copy and paste, to check I had received the replacement and it was working okay!

Always worth a try ;)

[Velvet Wafer]

Hey VW :)
I recommend you try to RMA, if possible. I just RMA'd a 555 BE that I didn't even think they would accept. It used to unlock to a quad, but after a few months it started crashing so I kept it as 3 cores. Few months down the line, more crashes, so back to a stable dualie.

Then a couple of months ago it started crashing as a dual even with stock RAM settings. It would work for a whole day, then would crash all the next day and was completely random. I was worried AMD wouldn't accept the RMA because it would be fine for a whole day at a time, but yea, they accepted and were very cool about it. Even got an e-mail that wasn't a copy and paste, to check I had received the replacement and it was working okay!

Always worth a try ;)

Sounds about like my problem... random instabilities, especially after cold boots... i think i shall try to RMA it if it really was the problem, just need to test it in another board, luckily i have a buddy that has one.

OT, but something amazing just happened:
HYPER SLI with different GPUs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH46uLDxxHY)

[scaminatrix]

Sounds about like my problem... random instabilities, especially after cold boots... i think i shall try to RMA it if it really was the problem, just need to test it in another board, luckily i have a buddy that has one.

OT, but something amazing just happened:
HYPER SLI with different GPUs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH46uLDxxHY)

Now you mention cold boots, yea exactly the same thing with mine. AMD seem very reasonable when it comes to RMA. They didn't want the receipt or invoice, just the serial number.

Yup, that's anatolymik from TPU! He got it working (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153046) at last!

[PHaS3]

I had the 1090T, but it's prett much the same thing except for clock speed correct?

yeah same CPU, 100MHz higher clock on the 1100T. I actually ordered the 1090T when I upgraded, but I received the 1100 :P

Both are awesome processors :toast:

[de.das.dude]

Now you mention cold boots, yea exactly the same thing with mine. AMD seem very reasonable when it comes to RMA. They didn't want the receipt or invoice, just the serial number.

Yup, that's anatolymik from TPU! He got it working (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153046) at last!

yeah the serial number is all they need.

wish they gave RMAs for lemons.

[Chicken Patty]

yeah same CPU, 100MHz higher clock on the 1100T. I actually ordered the 1090T when I upgraded, but I received the 1100 :P

Both are awesome processors :toast:

I don't have it anymore but I sure as hell miss it.

[eidairaman1]

I don't have it anymore but I sure as hell miss it.

Really- your on a "superior platform" like all other jackasses of the site are on (Not talkin bout you)

[Chicken Patty]

It was more of a challenge to overclock. But I'm an AMD guy, I just have intel because of WCG. I am limited to amount of PC's I can have so I need as much output as possible from each of my rigs so going the Intel route would make more sense.

[TheMailMan78]

Ive been noticing the 1090's seems to clock a lil' better then the 1100's. Just seems to be that way. What do you guys think?

[Irony]

I can get to 4.3 with mine. I think its in my CPU-Z link.

Edit: CPU-Z validation is at 4.25.

[Chicken Patty]

Never owned a 1100T but my 1090T did 4GHz effortlessly. Never tried for higher because of cooling.

[TheMailMan78]

Never owned a 1100T but my 1090T did 4GHz effortlessly. Never tried for higher because of cooling.

Screw you Mr. Mod........:laugh: I just saw the thread today.

I can't get mine to stay stable at 4.0. But I suck at OC so.

[Irony]

Yeah, they seem to run like a dream at 4ghz. and easy to get there.

Edit: @Mailman: Looks like your volts are low, if your system specs is accurate; especially if you're trying to get to 4.0 on that. Mine runs at 4.0 with 1.40v.

[Senupe]

Thanks for the help guys, i found out that the Baord options doesn't have CPU/NB Voltaje voltaje controller, and the only thing icould do was to increase the HT Voltaje to 1.24v and take the vCore to 1.42v (1.4v with vDrop); the Load Line Calibration needed to stay at "Auto" in order to boot up and the RAM at 1066MHz (@1170MHz) to make it run under specification (1333MHz).
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition.
Just realized either wich the power supply have 2 +12v Rails and it's limited to 200W so i'm happy with my achivement xD
http://img.techpowerup.org/120117/DSCF6001.jpg

[Norton]

Alright, yesterday i wasnt able to hold it anymore.:o

After more than 2 Years, i bought a Phenom 960T in Hope that 1-2 Cores will unlock, while providing superior ram,CPU and NB clocking capabilities,compared to my aging 955, which seems to be on its slow path to death.

It suddenly refuses many settings which were stable for years before, and that, and the best board i had run it so far (so i dont think this is the Culprit)

Paid 100€ for the 960T and now im kinda curious what it will bring me... could be anything from eternal damnation to everlasting happyness!:laugh:

I got a 960T a couple of weeks ago... unlocked to 6 cores on 3 different boards but instant BSOD :(

As an X4 it's been great so far with a mild OC (3.4/3.6 Turbo, 2400 NB) and feels much smoother than my unlocked 555....running kinda like a 95W PII 965 with Turbo :rockout:

[Velvet Wafer]

I got a 960T a couple of weeks ago... unlocked to 6 cores on 3 different boards but instant BSOD :(

As an X4 it's been great so far with a mild OC (3.4/3.6 Turbo, 2400 NB) and feels much smoother than my unlocked 555....running kinda like a 95W PII 965 with Turbo :rockout:

Thanks, i cant wait to play with it... hopefully it will be here the next days :D

[de.das.dude]

I got a 960T a couple of weeks ago... unlocked to 6 cores on 3 different boards but instant BSOD :(

As an X4 it's been great so far with a mild OC (3.4/3.6 Turbo, 2400 NB) and feels much smoother than my unlocked 555....running kinda like a 95W PII 965 with Turbo :rockout:

try to find out the lemon core. or try lower clocks like 2.0ghz

[brandonwh64]

Are you sure it's a dead dream!?

http://tinyurl.com/6zl8ke :D

Well I just proved my self wrong... For giggles I put in a RMA request with ASUS on my DOA motherboard and today I get a email saying they have accepted and give me RMA details. I will ship it out tomorrow hoping I get a M3A78-CM to replace it.

[Batou1986]

Anyone got a cheatsheet in here for a 1100T+990x-UD3+1600ram setup my buddy's at 3.8 now wondering if its worth pushing further on a Khuler620?

[Chicken Patty]

I'd say go for 4GHz. Just add a tad more vcore and raise the multi. Keeping an eye on temps of course.

[de.das.dude]

4.2 should be no problem. go till 1.43

[Batou1986]

what bios is best for the thubans on that board i know theres a bunch?
Right now the Vcore is set at normal and according to cpuz its damn near 1.43 already if i remember correctly.
Kinda like how my 970 says the stock voltage for my fx4100 is 1.4125

[eidairaman1]

what board are you talking about, yours or someone elses?

[Batou1986]

His 990xa, I was just saying that my 970A board also seems to overvolt the cpu by default.

Its a Gigabyte 990XA-UD3

[eidairaman1]

motherboards have a approximation of voltage, not exact due to variances at the wall. id be worried about undervoltage more so. But they are allowed a certain percent of being under or over. Id suggest setting the voltage manually

[Chicken Patty]

If temps are good to up to whatever 1.43v allows you to.

[de.das.dude]

yeah i said 1.43 since these digital VRMs seem to kick it up to 1.45 with a little load. might be the load line caliberation too.

[eidairaman1]

and with CNQ/turbo core doesnt the voltage adjust on the fly?

[de.das.dude]

its best to disable CnQ with overclocks.

[eidairaman1]

its best to disable CnQ with overclocks.

I kind of figured as much as it would affect the overclocks.

[Chicken Patty]

I always disable it for overclocking.

[eidairaman1]

I always disable it for overclocking.

its odd i think i left it on for my bros unlocked BE 555 ("Triple 5") to B57/BE 955 (Stock Clock of 3.2GHz)

[Chicken Patty]

It could work, actually I'm pretty sure you can overclock with it on. I just rather have full control over clocks/voltages when overclocking just in case CnQ acts stupid. :laugh:

[sirbaili]

I can get to 4.3 with mine. I think its in my CPU-Z link.

Edit: CPU-Z validation is at 4.25.

I've got 4.4 Ghz with my Ancient Gigabyte 790x-ud4 board.

Only Cpu-z Validation Without any Stability at all.

I am notwilling to go past 1.475 Cpu VCore.

Cpu-z Validation: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2068152


Enjoy

[Batou1986]

I disable all the power control stuff, from what i gather CPB changes voltages just like CnQ which could lead to problems.
For good measure i disable C states as well, then renable after i know its stable.

[eidairaman1]

It could work, actually I'm pretty sure you can overclock with it on. I just rather have full control over clocks/voltages when overclocking just in case CnQ acts stupid. :laugh:

His machine is not overclocked as it dont need to be, n runs the stock cooler. That CPU i got as a gamble and i won that bet with it being a Flawless CPU as a full Quad (Everything unlocked properly and runs at the right voltage/clock speed)


For it being a middle ground i am impressed with how snappy it is. It makes me wonder if its even worth going for a 990X/FX Motherboard...

[Chicken Patty]

Of its running fine for your needs then don't upgrade for now man.

[Norton]

His machine is not overclocked as it dont need to be, n runs the stock cooler. That CPU i got as a gamble and i won that bet with it being a Flawless CPU as a full Quad (Everything unlocked properly and runs at the right voltage/clock speed)


For it being a middle ground i am impressed with how snappy it is. It makes me wonder if its even worth going for a 990X/FX Motherboard...

My 555 was on stock volts w/CnQ on as well- unlocked to X4 and bumped it to 3.4.... <1.1 volts @ idle on an Gigabyte 890xa-ud3 board :rockout:

960T definitely has a more impressive feel compared to an unlocked 555... not sure how FX will feel like but I can't complain about either of these running nearly stock :)

[eidairaman1]

Of its running fine for your needs then don't upgrade for now man.

I got the Triple 5 due to FX launch being so close, Now i know of its performance numbers not beating expectations of even the 1055 per se, I will upgrade it when the last AM3+ CPU comes into play that is supported by that motherboard. I will load it up with 32GB of ram and the fastest Radeon/ Radeons that board will support aswell in time.

Im sure it will do 200-500Mhz boosted just fine, as it seems a pal of ours that does many reviews had to drop his core 2 cpu from 4+ GHz to factory due to instability after several years of stress.

[Chicken Patty]

Yeah, I was a bit let down by BD. really don't see a point in upgrading anymore. Rather wait for pile driver or something.

[eidairaman1]

AM3+ has atleast 2 more CPU series before being Decomissioned...

[catnipkiller]

Iv ran into a problem that makes me rage/jumper my mobo. Every time I try to move my ram voltage at all or even to set it stock my system wont post. I have a 990 fx ud3 mobo with 16gb 1600 ram rated 1.65v I think. God I miss having a clear bios button. will upload pics of bios after school.

[eidairaman1]

Iv ran into a problem that makes me rage/jumper my mobo. Every time I try to move my ram voltage at all or even to set it stock my system wont post. I have a 990 fx ud3 mobo with 16gb 1600 ram rated 1.65v I think. God I miss having a clear bios button. will upload pics of bios after school.

why do your system specs state different, and you read the motherboard manual for notes/warnings?

[catnipkiller]

forgot to update^^ that is my old rig witch is now my moms rig^^ im now on a GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 making me mad even on 2 sticks i can get my nb stable past 2.7ghz where my other ddr2 mobo was holding 2.9ghz NB solid.

[Norton]

Iv ran into a problem that makes me rage/jumper my mobo. Every time I try to move my ram voltage at all or even to set it stock my system wont post. I have a 990 fx ud3 mobo with 16gb 1600 ram rated 1.65v I think. God I miss having a clear bios button. will upload pics of bios after school.

This Silverstone Clear CMOS switch works with most boards ($5.99 free shipping)

Silverstone CLEARCMOS Case Accessory (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999196&Tpk=clear%20cmos)

I have one in my case- works great :cool:

[eidairaman1]

forgot to update^^ that is my old rig witch is now my moms rig^^ im now on a GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 making me mad even on 2 sticks i can get my nb stable past 2.7ghz where my other ddr2 mobo was holding 2.9ghz NB solid.

have they revised that motherboard and what about bios updates?

[catnipkiller]

have not looked into that but it was kinda weird that stock volts even under volting wont post.

[eidairaman1]

have not looked into that but it was kinda weird that stock volts even under volting wont post.

Only thing I can really say is take the machine apart, clean it and reseat all devices, taking ESD precaution. You may want to run Memtest too. Also research to see if there are any limitations...

[TacoTown]

So, I just got my PII 955B and I can't seem to get over 3.8ghz without a ton of voltage and me idling at 40C. I'm running it at 3.2ghz and im idling at 35C. Could this just be because I'm using junk HP thermal paste? I have some IC diamond 7 in teh mail

[Chicken Patty]

So, I just got my PII 955B and I can't seem to get over 3.8ghz without a ton of voltage and me idling at 40C. I'm running it at 3.2ghz and im idling at 35C. Could this just be because I'm using junk HP thermal paste? I have some IC diamond 7 in teh mail

Apply the IC Diamond and go from there. What voltage are you using for 3.8 GHz?

[TacoTown]

Apply the IC Diamond and go from there. What voltage are you using for 3.8 GHz?

It says it's gunna need another week to get here :( For me to reach 3.8ghz and to be intelburn test stable I needed close to 1.5V and I full load at 70C

[Chicken Patty]

It says it's gunna need another week to get here :( For me to reach 3.8ghz and to be intelburn test stable I needed close to 1.5V and I full load at 70C

Hmmm, seems a bit much but possible. Definitely that's too hot though, gotta keep it under 60ºc. What's the max stable clock you can get with reasonable temps?

[TacoTown]

Hmmm, seems a bit much but possible. Definitely that's too hot though, gotta keep it under 60ºc. What's the max stable clock you can get with reasonable temps?

I can reach 3.5 with about 1.4V, but I idle at 42C. My house was kinda hot last night though, I'll try again right now.

[Chicken Patty]

I can reach 3.5 with about 1.4V, but I idle at 42C. My house was kinda hot last night though, I'll try again right now.

Keep us posted.

[TacoTown]

Keep us posted.

I'm at 3.6ghz and 1.42V but I'm idling at 40C I'm full loading at 71C now and my pc restarts (like I pressed the restart button) with no BSOD

[Chicken Patty]

I'm at 3.6ghz and 1.42V but I'm idling at 40C I'm full loading at 71C now and my pc restarts (like I pressed the restart button) with no BSOD

Those temps are really high man. Can't let it get that high, that can be why you need soo much voltage too. More heat + more voltage needed, viscous cycle.

[TacoTown]

Those temps are really high man. Can't let it get that high, that can be why you need soo much voltage too. More heat + more voltage needed, viscous cycle.

It's weird I've never reached these temps with my 925, and I used more voltage with it. I'm thinking I drop it down to 3.2ghz and 1.3V till I get my Ic diamond

[JrRacinFan]

@Kevin
Hit me up. May have something for you.

[TacoTown]

@kevin
hit me up. May have something for you.

ygpm :)

[eidairaman1]

anyone have anymore input on catnipkiller's issue?

[Chicken Patty]

anyone have anymore input on catnipkiller's issue?

Really don't have an idea. So to get it right, every time he makes a DRAM voltage adjustment no matter what it is, it won't POST?

[brandonwh64]

WOW that is high! My athlon x4 doesn't go over like 42 @ 1.45V 3.5ghz

[fullinfusion]

WOW that is high! My athlon x4 doesn't go over like 42 @ 1.45V 3.5ghz
Cool CP! Hey man can I kiss Flow?

[JrRacinFan]

ygpm :)

So so sorry I couldn't help yah dude.:ohwell: Was going to send a cooler at close to near cost of shipping alone but due to being in CA for PERSONAL CHOICE, I won't do it. Sorry man.

[de.das.dude]

Iv ran into a problem that makes me rage/jumper my mobo. Every time I try to move my ram voltage at all or even to set it stock my system wont post. I have a 990 fx ud3 mobo with 16gb 1600 ram rated 1.65v I think. God I miss having a clear bios button. will upload pics of bios after school.

forgot to update^^ that is my old rig witch is now my moms rig^^ im now on a GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 making me mad even on 2 sticks i can get my nb stable past 2.7ghz where my other ddr2 mobo was holding 2.9ghz NB solid.
i think thats poor design on your board right there. Asus doesnt even need to be jumped. even my old gen board automatically resets if it cant post.


I'm at 3.6ghz and 1.42V but I'm idling at 40C I'm full loading at 71C now and my pc restarts (like I pressed the restart button) with no BSOD
definitely overheating. are you using the stock cooler?

[TacoTown]

i think thats poor design on your board right there. Asus doesnt even need to be jumped. even my old gen board automatically resets if it cant post.



definitely overheating. are you using the stock cooler?
Nope I'm using a CNPS 9000, that was with the fans on max. I really think It's the shitty thermal paste I'm using. For my sisters rig I have a stock AMD cooler, with a Delta fan going full blast and it's idling at 22C and I'm only using the stuff that comes with CM heatsinks.
So so sorry I couldn't help yah dude.:ohwell: Was going to send a cooler at close to near cost of shipping alone but due to being in CA for PERSONAL CHOICE, I won't do it. Sorry man.

Ahh, well thanks anyway.

[Irony]

Sounds like you need to apply some real thermal paste. ;)

[de.das.dude]

Nope I'm using a CNPS 9000, that was with the fans on max. I really think It's the shitty thermal paste I'm using. For my sisters rig I have a stock AMD cooler, with a Delta fan going full blast and it's idling at 22C and I'm only using the stuff that comes with CM heatsinks.


Ahh, well thanks anyway.

get the CM cheap white one.

[anoobarak]

Hey guys, quick question off-topic: how much faster a FX4100 would be compared to my athlon? Both oc'ed and not. Thanks in advance.

[Chicken Patty]

Don't have experience with the 4100 but I suppose it should be considerably faster.

[JrRacinFan]

FX4100 is quite a bit faster when comparing stock clocks. Overclock both to same core speed the Athlon would only be a hair faster BUT here's the kicker, the FX4100 overclocks ALOT better then the Athlon part. Where the Athlon can only get to 3.8-4Ghz the fx4100 could potentially get to 4.2-4.4Ghz.

Worth switching? No, go with a 960T.

[Chicken Patty]

Jr has spoken! :respect:

[de.das.dude]

FX4100 is worse than an APU

[JrRacinFan]

FX4100 is worse than an APU

Most of the Phenom II lineup performs worse than an APU counterpart.

[eidairaman1]

Most of the Phenom II lineup performs worse than an APU counterpart.

Its expected newer arch n ram controller. Just no performance chip yet...

[anoobarak]

So is my athlon worth switching to an 960t ? I'm seriously considering it as it could potentialy be unlocked to a thuban. One's sold in my country are BE versions so even easier overclocking for me.

[de.das.dude]

yes.

[HUSKIE]

So is my athlon worth switching to an 960t ? I'm seriously considering it as it could potentialy be unlocked to a thuban. One's sold in my country are BE versions so even easier overclocking for me.

Yes! I've got my 960t this morning it's easy pretty to oc'ed currently running @4ghz stable until now with prime 95 until now still torturing..:rockout:

[TacoTown]

I was playing a hour of skyrim, and I'm idling at 33C now. I guess the TP just needed to be worked in a little?

[Chicken Patty]

That's possible, some TP's take a while to cure and set in. How long has your TP been applied as of now?

[TacoTown]

That's possible, some TP's take a while to cure and set in. How long has your TP been applied as of now?

4 days, I haven't really gamed other than skyrim tonight. I guess that's all it needed...

[Chicken Patty]

Probably. But anyways , here is to your newly acquired LOWER temps. :toast: :toast:

[de.das.dude]

my cpu is a 95W tdp so im idling at 33C too but my ambient is 27C. no CnQ

[daimonass]

Yes! I've got my 960t this morning it's easy pretty to oc'ed currently running @4ghz stable until now with prime 95 until now still torturing..:rockout:

You unluck two core?

[HUSKIE]

You unluck two core?

Nope my mobo gigabyte 880gma usb3 hasn't ACC in bios setting. I would like to unlock them but how? I had F3 BIos on my mobo. That's my one problem.

Please help me.:D

[de.das.dude]

i dont think you can unlock without ACC.

[HUSKIE]

i dont think you can unlock without ACC.

There is an option say unlock cpu when i enabled it my pc goes freeze on mobo logo. Dunno what should i do.

[de.das.dude]

shoot your mobo with a shotgun.

[HUSKIE]

shoot your mobo with a shotgun.

Very nice advice. You go first!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::nutkick::nutkick:

[brandonwh64]

Mine is at full 100% load right now at 45 deg :)

[scaminatrix]

There is an option say unlock cpu when i enabled it my pc goes freeze on mobo logo. Dunno what should i do.

Up CPU voltage by a tiny bit.

[de.das.dude]

Very nice advice. You go first!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::nutkick::nutkick:

if it werent these stupid gun laws in india that dont let the citizens own any weapon, i would have done it a long time ago. :laugh:

[redeye]

so bought a 1100t, it is in an asus 990fx, and oc'd is 4Ghz @1.39375v 3000nb (nb voltage just below "yellow" in bios). 4.1ghz crash.

is 4Ghz at this voltage standard for this chip?.

1.3625 4Ghz, prime95 runs, but reboots (BSOD)

1.375 runs but core 5 (or worker 5) bombs out "hardware error" prime95

1.38125 runs but core 6 (or worker 6) bombs out "hardware error" prime95

1.3875 prime 95 runs for a day but crashs to the desktop... program error (has never happened to me before)

1.39375 42 hours stable.

note the bios increases the voltage under load (loadline) by approx 7/160's of a volt.(1.439)

[Irony]

With my 1090T, (its the same as an 1100T but with a slightly lower stock clock) I can run 4ghz with 1.40v. It turns out to be 1.43 I think under load. Then for 4.2 I need 1.52v, which is about 1.55 under load. So if you want to go higher, I would say that you need more CPU voltage. Just dont go over 1.5 for a 24/7 clock. And make sure your temps are good.

[Norton]

Try backing down your NB frequency- too high causes instability from what I hear


so bought a 1100t, it is in an asus 990fx, and oc'd is 4Ghz @1.39375v 3000nb (nb voltage just below "yellow" in bios). 4.1ghz crash.

is 4Ghz at this voltage standard for this chip?.

1.3625 4Ghz, prime95 runs, but reboots (BSOD)

1.375 runs but core 5 (or worker 5) bombs out "hardware error" prime95

1.38125 runs but core 6 (or worker 6) bombs out "hardware error" prime95

1.3875 prime 95 runs for a day but crashs to the desktop... program error (has never happened to me before)

1.39375 42 hours stable.

note the bios increases the voltage under load (loadline) by approx 7/160's of a volt.(1.439)

[Batou1986]

Try backing down your NB frequency- too high causes instability from what I hear

This, also less is more sometimes with these chips i wouldn't go crazy with the volts right off the bat.
3.8 is easy on that setup with +.050V to CPUNB and CPU volts LLC high or max work your way up from there so you have a starting point.

Secondly use something with linpac like OCCT it seems to detect more and quicker then prime, I think this may be due to the on die northbridge becoming unstable and linpack pushing more data through the memory controller then prime does.

[TacoTown]

I got my Ic diamond in the mail today :D

Old temps
http://i.imgur.com/FcRO0.png
New temps
http://i.imgur.com/ofWsH.png

I'm thinking of putting it on my GPU :3


EDIT: Full load pic :3
http://i.imgur.com/SucbO.png
that's a 20c difference for full load!

[daimonass]

I got my Ic diamond in the mail today :D

Old temps
http://i.imgur.com/FcRO0.png
New temps
http://i.imgur.com/ofWsH.png

I'm thinking of putting it on my GPU :3


EDIT: Full load pic :3
http://i.imgur.com/SucbO.png
that's a 20c difference for full load!

New cooler ?

[Irony]

I got my Ic diamond in the mail today :D

Old temps
http://i.imgur.com/FcRO0.png
New temps
http://i.imgur.com/ofWsH.png

I'm thinking of putting it on my GPU :3


EDIT: Full load pic :3
http://i.imgur.com/SucbO.png
that's a 20c difference for full load!

Nice. That was a good investment.

[TacoTown]

New cooler ?
Nope, Ic diamond 7!

Nice. That was a good investment.

It was only $7 too!

[Irony]

Nope, Ic diamond 7!



It was only $7 too!

Nice price.

Hey, my friend is having a problem with his computer. He's getting a BSOD with an error that says "Hypertransport sync flood error." I googled it, and it seems to be fairly random and hard to diagnose. He said he got it once after an hour of skyrim, and then once just after reboot, and a couple more times under no load. Has anyone else heard of this, or fixed it?

He's got an Athlon II 635 X4 @3.1, MSI 760GM p33 mobo, EVGA 550ti, 8gigs of gskill 1333 and a rosewill 450 watt psu.

[TacoTown]

Nice price.

Hey, my friend is having a problem with his computer. He's getting a BSOD with an error that says "Hypertransport sync flood error." I googled it, and it seems to be fairly random and hard to diagnose. He said he got it once after an hour of skyrim, and then once just after reboot, and a couple more times under no load. Has anyone else heard of this, or fixed it?

He's got an Athlon II 635 X4 @3.1, MSI 760GM p33 mobo, EVGA 550ti, 8gigs of gskill 1333 and a rosewill 450 watt psu.

it makes me thing his htt speed is too high tell him to lower it a bit and see if that works

[Irony]

Its at stock speed though, is the thing. I'm gonna tell him to clear cmos.

[JrRacinFan]

HTPC Question; More cores or faster cores? Right now battling between the idea of a 555 Black @ x2 3.8Ghz or x4 @ 3.2Ghz? Trying to keep the vcore near stock or undervolted due to heat.

What you guys think? The PC does get used but barely and I very rarely ever have to encode on it.

[TacoTown]

I would say save your money and overclock that dual core.

[Norton]

Who me? :laugh:

What are you using the HTPC for gaming, other, etc...?

[JrRacinFan]

I would say save your money and overclock that dual core.

Hi Kevin!!! The x2 unlocks just fine to x4. Still keep it to a faster x2?

LOL@Norton

It's basically an all around use rig but mainly to watch AVI's and Win MCE.

edit

WELCOME BACK NORTON & KEVIN!!! XD

[TacoTown]

Hi Kevin!!! The x2 unlocks just fine to x4. Still keep it to a faster x2?

LOL@Norton

It's basically an all around use rig but mainly to watch AVI's and Win MCE.

If it's just for movies I would say keep it a dual core and have it cool and quiet and when you need the extra boost you could load up a bios setting of it at 3.8ghz and use it like that

EDIT: I never left :)

[Norton]

Probably more cores- thanks to it being an unlockable 555, you have the options

i.e. should I buy a 2 core or a 4 core... BOGO courtesy of AMD :toast:

[JrRacinFan]

LOL @ never left

Well hey I just did a 3dm06 run on it and CPU sensor shows 55C on stock @ x4 3.2Ghz. GPU shows 46C. Guess I will keep it there and start working on undervolting. But more thought into this, with very little ram in that machine, I probably wont make use of the extra cores since I cant multitask on it much....

Hmmmm

Oh also here's my 3dm06 results

http://img.techpowerup.org/120121/Capture002040.jpg

Not too too bad for a 720p gamer. just a touch slower than the wifes power hungry 3870. But that's also stock clocks with CPU @ X4 3.2Ghz.
Here's the temps
http://img.techpowerup.org/120121/Capture003146.jpg

[HUSKIE]

4.5ghz@1.648v (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2209766)

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/2209766.png

with very sweet temperature see at attached file

[TacoTown]

LOL @ never left

Well hey I just did a 3dm06 run on it and CPU sensor shows 55C on stock @ x4 3.2Ghz. GPU shows 46C. Guess I will keep it there and start working on undervolting. But more thought into this, with very little ram in that machine, I probably wont make use of the extra cores since I cant multitask on it much....

Hmmmm

Oh also here's my 3dm06 results

http://img.techpowerup.org/120121/Capture002040.jpg

Not too too bad for a 720p gamer. just a touch slower than the wifes power hungry 3870. But that's also stock clocks with CPU @ X4 3.2Ghz.
Here's the temps
http://img.techpowerup.org/120121/Capture003146.jpg

those are some low temps for a HTPC, yeah I would say keep it at a quad core then, even oc it a bit

4.5ghz@1.648v (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2209766)

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/2209766.png

with very sweet temperature see at attached file
Beaast! What kid of cooling you got on that? A 360 rad?

[HUSKIE]

those are some low temps for a HTPC, yeah I would say keep it at a quad core then, even oc it a bit


Beaast! What kid of cooling you got on that? A 360 rad?

It's a modified H50 loopy with push and pull

HERE:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u201/twenty6_2007/Image978.jpg

[TacoTown]

It's a modified H50 loopy with push and pull

HERE:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u201/twenty6_2007/Image978.jpg

OUU purty. What was the point of cutting the tubes if you're gunna use the stock parts?

[Norton]

Nice!

and you were ticked cuz it wouldn't unlock to 6 core:laugh:

[HUSKIE]

Nice!

and you were ticked cuz it wouldn't unlock to 6 core:laugh:

Yeah it wouldn't unlock. So upset!

[HUSKIE]

OUU purty. What was the point of cutting the tubes if you're gunna use the stock parts?

Want to see the water running very well on those tubes.

[TacoTown]

Want to see the water running very well on those tubes.

ahh kk what's your full load like?

[HUSKIE]

ahh kk what's your full load like?

38-40 full load on prime95, this chip is very cool rather than my previous fx-4100.

[TacoTown]

38-40 full load on prime95, this chip is very cool rather than my previous fx-4100.

... Your full load is me watching youtube... Wanna switch? :D

[Irony]

4.5ghz@1.648v (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2209766)

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/2209766.png

with very sweet temperature see at attached file

Wow, sweet temps; and awesome clock. Your voltage is make me want to scream. :eek:

[HUSKIE]

Wow, sweet temps; and awesome clock. Your voltage is make me want to scream. :eek:

That voltages made my chip stable, amd can handled that voltages, i've been searched about the highest voltages for my chip, i'm not worrying. Happy now.

[Irony]

I've run mine at 1.65 before, for benching at higher clocks. But not for 24/7; I didn't want to risk it with safe voltage for thubans at 1.55.

[scaminatrix]

Yea 24/7 don't keep it above 1.55 man, back it down for everyday use

[Chicken Patty]

@huskie, while your voltage is scary for 24/7, the clock speed makes me happy. :respect:

[HUSKIE]

I'm not using 24/7 because i have job 12hrs straight. That's good for my pc.

[Chicken Patty]

I'm not using 24/7 because i have job 12hrs straight. That's good for my pc.

So you turn it off? Or does it downclock/undervolt when not in use?

[PHaS3]

Guys I'm curious ... Do you use Ganged or Unganged mode for your RAM? I've been using Ganged since I got this CPU, and when I last tested I found no benefit to using Unganged.

Any thoughts?

[daimonass]

For gygabyte motherbord best mode Ungaged.

[JrRacinFan]

Best to use unganged, no performance hit and provides better bclk overclocking.

[Chicken Patty]

Unganged!

[HUSKIE]

So you turn it off? Or does it downclock/undervolt when not in use?

Yes absolutely turned off. Nope i didn't touch anything when my pc turning to power off.

[TacoTown]

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/2211502.png

I'm finally stable at 3.8ghz :) With the window open I'm idling at 30C full loading at 55C prime 95 has been running for 20 mins I'd call that stable

[HUSKIE]

Sweet man. Congrats!

[Chicken Patty]

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/2211502.png

I'm finally stable at 3.8ghz :) With the window open I'm idling at 30C full loading at 55C prime 95 has been running for 20 mins I'd call that stable
Finally. :rockout:

[PHaS3]

Unganged!

lol thanks CP :)

Running unganged now and it does appear better. :toast:

[cadaveca]

Clocking up the 1100T under teh FX watercooler. 4.0 GHz, 1.55v 2800 NB @ 1.3v in BIOS sees 261W pulled from the 8-pin, and 373W @ the wall for the rig (monitor not included :p ).:eek:

Using HD5450 VGA, and Gskill 2133 MHz 9-11-9-28 4GB kit seen in my recent AMD reviews.

http://img.techpowerup.org/120127/054.jpg

[AthlonX2]

seriously 1.55 for 4Ghz?

[cadaveca]

I said I had a dog CPU...when i was telling people Phenom II can pull 300W easy, and they scoffed, they didn't understand. :p


:roll:

the board won't boot with more than 1.575v, that'll get 4.2 GHz only(*droops to 1.565v real via DMM)

[AthlonX2]

thats insane my old 1090t took 1.38 for 4ghz

[cadaveca]

thats insane my old 1090t took 1.38 for 4ghz

Yeah, not the best OC'er, but really useful to push board VRMs. I did bin quite a few chips to get this one, and was binning for the worst CPU possible, too, remember.


It's kinda like my 3960X, that pulls 130W++ @ stock.

I've always kinda felt that 1090T was the better chip, especially the earlier 1090T's.

What's more funny is that 4.0 won't even boot on air.:roll:

[TacoTown]

So it seems playing BBC2+recording with fraps+ playing music crashes my pc more than prime 95 :laugh: I've been bumping up my Vcore every crash and I'm at 1.37V right now and I'm not going any higher.

EDIT: It crashed again so Im at 1.38 :c I atleast have the window open so it's at a decent temp :) woo Canada!

[Irony]

Clocking up the 1100T under teh FX watercooler. 4.0 GHz, 1.55v 2800 NB @ 1.3v in BIOS sees 261W pulled from the 8-pin, and 373W @ the wall for the rig (monitor not included :p ).:eek:

Using HD5450 VGA, and Gskill 2133 MHz 9-11-9-28 4GB kit seen in my recent AMD reviews.

http://img.techpowerup.org/120127/054.jpg

My 1090T only needs 1.40 for 4.0

So it seems playing BBC2+recording with fraps+ playing music crashes my pc more than prime 95 :laugh: I've been bumping up my Vcore every crash and I'm at 1.37V right now and I'm not going any higher.

EDIT: It crashed again so Im at 1.38 :c I atleast have the window open so it's at a decent temp :) woo Canada!

Don't fear the volts. lol

[TacoTown]

My 1090T only needs 1.40 for 4.0



Don't fear the volts. lol

Embrace the volts?

[JrRacinFan]

Kevin you may need closer to 1.4v

Prime95; were you doing small or large ft?

[TacoTown]

Kevin you may need closer to 1.4v

Prime95; were you doing small or large ft?

small, but it doesn't crash with prime 95 it crashed when recording BBC2 with fraps

[JrRacinFan]

small, but it doesn't crash with prime 95 it crashed when recording BBC2 with fraps

What's your NB frequency at? Can you run linx for me max ram for 10 runs see if it crashes.

[TacoTown]

What's your NB frequency at? Can you run linx for me max ram for 10 runs see if it crashes.

I had it at 2600, but i brought it back to stock thinking that was the problem. I can't :( the site is down

http://www.youwatched.com/datajay/linx-setup.exe

[Norton]

Hey guys

Got my 960T up to 3.4 (3.6 Turbo) @ 1.3v, NB 2400

I'm happy with the OC for now :toast:

How low do you think I can go with the CPU voltage before I start having trouble?

45489

[JrRacinFan]

@kevin

I don't get home for another 2 hesitate. It will be a while before I can get you a copy

@norton

Don't bother.

[Irony]

@Norton: Thats amazing you can OC at all with such low volts. If you wanna OC more though you'll need more voltage.

@Kevinheraiz: Yes, give the volts a hug and a juicy kiss; as long as your spit doesn't short anything

Also, Linx is in TPU downloads.
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1902/.html

[Norton]

@kevin

I don't get home for another 2 hesitate. It will be a while before I can get you a copy

@norton

Don't bother.

Why? no benefit on undervolting or too small of an OC to be concerned about it :confused:

*Note- at Auto setting on my M5A99X the voltage was running too 1.5+ at stock clocks... is this normal for an ASUS board :wtf:

*** EDIT- @ Irony- been backing it down gradually from 1.4v or so- been stable at every drop ***