SUPER werid problem with the X800 *pics* HELP [Archive]

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shoman24v

Oct 10, 2004, 08:50 AM

Ok... let me start of with the X800 is a remarkable card, I upgraded from the 9800 Pro. I have a Dell 8300 3.2 GHz HT with 1 GIG of ram. I got the X800 Pro vivo about two weeks ago and I flashed it to the X800 XT PE. After the flash I underclocked my card back to Pro Core and mem speeds (475/450) just to make sure that it would be stable. Ever since I got that card FarCry hasnt been running right. It appears that some of the shadows in the game are not correct. LOTS of textures started appearing as bright orange, yellow, red, and green colors and I was getting mad, to top that off the sound was glitchy too. I tried everything to get FarCry fixed, I unstalled Video drivers and used Drive Clean 3 to make sure everthing was gone. That didnt help... I tried uninstalling and reinstalling FarCry...nothing, tired it with patches/without patches...nothing. I finally said it must be the card. I flashed it back to Pro and took it out. I put in my 9800 Pro and tried it out, to my amazement eveything was perfect, no funky colors. I ended up narrowing it down to what I thought was the Card. I returned it, Got a new X800 Pro, reinstalled the drivers, DID NOT FLASH the card, and ran FarCry again. Everything was exactly the same as my old flashed pro. Bright colors everywhere. It wasnt the card. I tried changing my AGP Size to 256 MB from 128 MB and still nothing, it seems as if it only does it outdoors.. I dont know what to do..here are some pics of what has been going down, There is also one pic of call of duty were there are dots on the wall, those dots only appeared in that exact area no matter where I was

http://67.181.237.183/hostw/farcry1.jpg

http://67.181.237.183/hostw/farcry2.jpg

http://67.181.237.183/hostw/farcry3.jpg

http://67.181.237.183/hostw/farcry4.jpg

http://67.181.237.183/hostw/farcry5.jpg

http://67.181.237.183/hostw/cod1.jpg

ati.bob

Oct 10, 2004, 10:51 AM

Looks like a driver problem to me.. doesn't seems to be an overclocked-card effect.. or is it maybe a down-clocked effect??!?

shoman24v

Oct 10, 2004, 04:53 PM

What you are seeing is from a brand new stock pro

Ramine

Oct 10, 2004, 07:32 PM

prob drivers, check that smartshader isnt on aswell, hehe, the trpoical effect:)

shoman24v

Oct 10, 2004, 08:38 PM

Ok I've narrowed it down to this: That type of artifacting is only caused on "high" and "very high" settings. I lowerd everthing to medium and its all ok. What I am thinking is its my motherboard, maybe not enough bandwidth between the AGP slot and the card?

shoman24v

Oct 11, 2004, 04:49 PM

Ok guys i put my new card on my pc at work. its doing the same thing. the pc is a mpc 2.8 ghz 865p chipset 1 gig of ram 300w ps. Im also in a 67 degree room with the cover off the pc

:mad:

Turdhat

Oct 11, 2004, 06:03 PM

Man that looks cool. Trippy trees ! How can I make that happen on my game ! Thats how bored I am with Farcry.

cmberry20

Oct 11, 2004, 06:56 PM

Try turning off 'Fast Write' in the bios.
Also try setting card a 4x & not 8x

shoman24v

Oct 11, 2004, 07:52 PM

ya that didnt help... the only way it goes away is if the gfx settings are lower

Slayerstaps

Oct 11, 2004, 08:10 PM

get the newest patch for far cry dude...known problem that older versions give graphical errors with the newest cards...

shoman24v

Oct 11, 2004, 08:30 PM

get the newest patch for far cry dude...known problem that older versions give graphical errors with the newest cards...

the newest patch doesnt fix my problems, and the patch has been pulled because it crashes ATI cards

W1zzard

Oct 11, 2004, 09:42 PM

you tried the card in another pc and it has the same problem? -> rma it

shoman24v

Oct 11, 2004, 09:55 PM

you tried the card in another pc and it has the same problem? -> rma it

Thats so far two that have done the exact same thing. the only way it goes away is if i lower the graphics or i am indoors in the gam. im not sure but i think its affecting my sound.. it gets glitchy

shoman24v

Oct 12, 2004, 03:18 AM

hey guys someone posted this on another forum about my problem, anyone agree?

"You know, your comment that the problem seems to affect the SAME trees and the SAME textures ON those trees has got me thinking that it MIGHT be a bug in one of Far Cry's Pixel Shaders!

My reasoning here is that heat related problems would cause RANDOM texture anomalies to appear in RANDOM places, i.e. the effect would shift around randomly! However, we're seeing SPECIFIC anomalies in SPECIFIC places, which would point to a COMMON cause!

I have a theory that one of the Pixel Shaders normally applied to trees and other vegetation is, for some reason, NOT producing the expected results. Any texture that this "bugged" Pixel Shader is applied to would therefore have its colours "corrupted" in a specific way! In this case, it looks like random colours have been "projected" onto the texture!

Of course, when you drop down to Medium, THAT particular Pixel Shader is probably no longer applied, so the problem doesn't appear.

Hey, CryTek! Have I hit the nail on the head, here? "

Urlyin

Oct 12, 2004, 03:21 AM

Isn't that one of the reasons why they took their 1.2 patch or second patch off their web site? are you running the second patch?

shoman24v

Oct 12, 2004, 03:31 AM

Isn't that one of the reasons why they took their 1.2 patch or second patch off their web site? are you running the second patch?

Im not running 1.2...i believe they took it off because it crashes ATI cards...which it does

mustrum

Oct 13, 2004, 08:35 AM

Hmm. You tried in another PC right? Looks like that card is borked.
Time to RMA i fear.

Slayerstaps

Oct 13, 2004, 03:36 PM

No, It's still a problem with far cry....You don have to rma that theory of the other guy can be right...Far cry is somewhat buggy that's why they released some patches in order to try an fix those...But yeah it's true that it looks like something gone wrong with the shaders...
Try other games like doom 3 first if it has the same probs then maybe it's your vid card afterall........

shoman24v

Oct 13, 2004, 06:31 PM

Slayerstaps

Oct 14, 2004, 03:10 PM

Then i think you got to wait for some patch that fixes your problem... :D

shoman24v

Oct 14, 2004, 03:30 PM

Yeah well by the time that happends i'll be done with the game :(

Snowman

Oct 22, 2004, 03:26 AM

I have the exact same trouble.... and I have also noticed that it must have something to do with the shaders.... here is a pick of the editor and I can move the helicopter and the bright colors go with the shadow.

Snowman

Slayerstaps

Oct 22, 2004, 09:57 PM

Looks very cool and funky... :D

euhm..oh sry nvm me...sucks if it looks that way :)

Urlyin

Oct 22, 2004, 10:40 PM

Could it be you're overclocking the GPU or CPU to much? Have you tried to uninstall the video drivers and use Driver Cleaner to remove all of the files then reinstall? Just a thought :rolleyes:

shoman24v

Oct 22, 2004, 11:01 PM

Remeber i returned my card for a new one and still got the same things. FarCry is oh so buggy! and not friendly with ATI, espically the X800.

Bro, dont think your card is messed up, its not. Farcry just wont ever look good for ATI. For some reason the graphics are better in the first few levels, more towards the middle and end of the game it just runs like crap, im now forced to run everything on medium. Not to mention the sound is messed up in indoor levels :mad: Such a beautiful game and i cant enjoy it :( doom runs so sweet tho on the highest level of gfx set :o

C&C Freak 2K

Oct 23, 2004, 12:25 AM

I would also like to note that Dell cases are completely encased in plastic, which makes them excellent insulators of heat.

shoman24v

Oct 23, 2004, 02:04 AM

I would also like to note that Dell cases are completely encased in plastic, which makes them excellent insulators of heat.

umm, yeah......... its not overheating i have one fan sucking air in the the Artic cooler 4 blowing air out. EVEN if the case is open its still F'ed up

syl

Oct 23, 2004, 02:45 AM

shoman24v

Oct 23, 2004, 06:57 PM

Read somewhere this is a programming bug that Ubisoft is aware of. Simple workaround - go into Advance Options under Video Options in the game menu and change Shadow Quality setting to Medium. Hope this helps.

SYL you are the man! I am now running at 1280x1024, Very High settings (shadow on low) With no funky colors!!!!! :)

The map that really had alot of problmes was boat.cry. I loaded it up with the new settings and did a benchmark using fraps hitting the button right when i got off the boat getting to land, here are my results

Min: 45
Max: 130
Avg: 73.75

;) :D

Lozza

Oct 23, 2004, 07:46 PM

man i wish i could afford a graphics card like that :rolleyes:

Shooter_one

Oct 28, 2004, 11:01 PM

Does your new card show 16 pipes..? I run farcry with about your setup and everything on High. have had no problems. My PcMark04 is 4338 and all settings are stock..

shoman24v

Oct 30, 2004, 01:25 AM

yeah it shows 16 pipes

horvatbe

Nov 2, 2004, 10:51 PM

Please I beg you install patch 1.3 for Far Cary and the problem is solved, I had the same stuff went carzy looking for a solution since I have modded my card to an XT, but dooooooode just simply install the patch and problem solved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Qwerty

Nov 3, 2004, 06:14 AM

try turning off AA, or lowering it, but putting the patch on sounds like the best idea, espcialy since on the new patch they changed the way all the pixel shaders work.

My measly 2600xp+, 1 gig of ram 9600 runs it at full spec and full aa (10x7) with no problems yours should'nt have that type of error.

Qwerty