Frustrated and Need Help!

[Ewaybevinn]

Hello, I’m really at my wits end here and could use come help. I have 1 problem and 1 recommendation that I need help with.

All of my specs will be posted at the bottom.

1st the problem: No matter how many times I try I cannot get the CCC to work on my computer. It worked when I had XP Prof x64. but after upgrading to Vista Home Premium x64 I cannot get it to work. When I do the installation there are no warnings or errors. But when I try to run it I get a message saying that CCC cannot run in basic mode and will run in advanced. When I click advanced though the box disappears but the program does not load. I’ve tried running the ATI Tool but when it comes up there is no graph displayed and the 2 slider bars are grayed out.

2nd: Recommendation. The games that I play are WOW, FS-X and Splinter Cell. But with the current setup I only get max 30FPS and min 5FPS avg 10FPS. Is this to be expected with the hardware I have? Or do I need to do something to bring out my card’s potential? I have upgraded my ram to 4gb, fully cleaned my case and cards of any dust. I do know that I need a new power supply (currently 400w) what would be my best purchase for a new card? I have about $175 to spend on a new card and am looking for the most performance for my money. I only run one monitor. I just want to be able to play the games with no issues. If I can play at high settings then it would be great.

I have the full DxDiag report if it is needed
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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/6/2008, 10:56:48
Machine name:
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_gdr.080917-1612)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MSI
System Model: MS-7250
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 1990MB used, 1948MB available
Windows Dir: D:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: Radeon X1600/X1650 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x71C2)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C2&SUBSYS_205C17AF&REV_00
Display Memory: 2045 MB
Dedicated Memory: 254 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: ACER AL1916W
Driver Name: atiumdag,atiumdva,atiumd64.dll,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.0621 (English)
DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/28/2008 21:03:13, 3955712 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-3282-11CF-7276-5600A1C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x71C2
SubSys ID: 0x205C17AF
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
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{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

 

[Asylum]

Try right clicking on the program and run as adminastrator!!

 

[Ewaybevinn]

yeah i tried that. i even logged in under the admin account. no luck

 

[Asylum]

You need a upgrade....I have a EVGA 8800 GT i will sell you for $100 shipped!! Let me know if you are intristed!! Only a 8 months old...Thinking of getting a gtx 260!!

 

[spearman914]

I can't seem the help u on the CCC part but I can give u recommendations.

For a 175 budget u can upgrade the cpu and GPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103214 4200+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121272 4850


Now this is wayyyy over kill but if u do buy an 4850 u can play almost every game with settings maxed around 30-60 fps.

 

[Ewaybevinn]

Those are some good deals. I am a little apprehensive about switching to nVidia from ATI. I have heard some horror stories. As you can tell I have limited knowledge about computers. I did build the computer I have but don't know much about the infrastructure behind it. Will switching cause problems?

Also on a side note I have 2 HD. one with Vista one with XP I do know how to boot either but I tried to wipe the drive with XP (corrupted) but I cannot. I installed another version of vista on the XP drive but it just put the XP OS into a folder that I cannot delete.

Is my current CPU that underpowered that I need to upgrade?

 

[trickson]

Those are some good deals. I am a little apprehensive about switching to nVidia from ATI. I have heard some horror stories. As you can tell I have limited knowledge about computers. I did build the computer I have but don't know much about the infrastructure behind it. Will switching cause problems?

Also on a side note I have 2 HD. one with Vista one with XP I do know how to boot either but I tried to wipe the drive with XP (corrupted) but I cannot. I installed another version of vista on the XP drive but it just put the XP OS into a folder that I cannot delete.

Is my current CPU that underpowered that I need to upgrade?

You need to upgrade yes .
Read this : http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=77968

And this : http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=76591

You can get a GTX260 for like $199 on newegg !
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127361

Just click the "see price in cart tab" .

You CPU is ok but a bit old .
OH and switching will not be a problem at all .

 

[Ewaybevinn]

Man I had no idea this was such a huge debate (nvidia/ATI) So i think i will go nvidia this time because I have so many problems getting anything ATI to work.

Asylum: this seems to be a great deal and I thank you for the offer but I try not to buy anything used so i'm going to have to pass. but thanks anyways.

Spearman: While that is a great deal on the CPU i have a winsdor socket so that wont work. But i did see a AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Processor ADX6000IAA6CZ - 3.0GHz, 1MB Cache, 1000MHz (2000 MT/s) FSB, Windsor, Dual-Core, OEM, Socket AM2, at Tiger Direct for $120 which seems like a good deal.

Trickson: After reading I see that you are way bias towards nvidia LOL but i think i am going to go that route. But that is a little pricey for me ( I know you get what you pay for) I need to bring the price down to around $175 So i'm going to keep looking.

Thanks to everyone for replying so quickly and giving your advice. It is what i'm missing when it comes to my computer. I'll click refresh ever min looking for more (not really but close)

 

[trickson]

Maybe I am bias towards Nvidia but I have my reasons .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...48 106792522 1067938081&name=GeForce 9800 GTX

Get one of these perhaps ?

 

[justinavril]

In China, catalyst driver (pure display driver) is separated from CCC. That means you need to install driver firstly, and then you can install .Net framework, and CCC at last. And the driver for Vista 64 is diff from the one for XP 64.

The current ATI driver is 8.11. Maybe you can download it and install it.

Good luck!

 

[LittleLizard]

You need to upgrade yes .
Read this : http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=77968

And this : http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=76591

You can get a GTX260 for like $199 on newegg !
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127361

Just click the "see price in cart tab" .

You CPU is ok but a bit old .
OH and switching will not be a problem at all .

but he will have a good enough psu to run a gtx 260 ?

 

[trickson]

but he will have a good enough psu to run a gtx 260 ?

I am not sure . What PSU does he have?