Upgrading from 600mhz

[KainXS]

I wonder if a pentium 3 would outperform a core 2 cpu @200mhz
lol

 

[3870x2]

probably not, I underclocked my pd 830 from 3ghz to 1.5ghz, not too much of a performance hit.

 

[trickson]

GOD DAM IT 6 Pages for this SHIT and I only have 2 pages for some thing very constructive !! WTF are you all MAD ????

 

[farlex85]

I wonder if a pentium 3 would outperform a core 2 cpu @200mhz
lol

Not even close. The core 2 architecture is so far superior to the PIII not to mention twice the cores I wouldn't be surprised if a 200mhz core 2 easily outdid a 1.5ghz PIII.

 

[cdawall]

everyone does understand core2 is built off P3 right?

 

[ASRockIQ]

OP, please excuse the users here that say "why?" ^Guys i'm not trying to be mean or anything. just helping the guy out.

what is that you are trying to get? a new CPU?

Look HERE as i already linked some post back.

 

[farlex85]

everyone does understand core2 is built off P3 right?

In what way? I'm sure it has some things in common w/ the P3, but they are whole different beasts.

 

[cdawall]

In what way? I'm sure it has some things in common w/ the P3, but they are whole different beasts.

the entire core architecture is based off P3. core 2 is revised core which is revised P3

 

[Flyordie]

The Core Architecture was built from scratch using the "Table Based Data Speculation Circuit for Parallel Processing Computer" method by WARF (Currently, unlicensed, so idk how Intel is doing it.... since they are violating... United States Patent No. 5,781,752).

 

[ASRockIQ]

guys please get on topic. stop posting about blah blah on the i7 and Duo core...

 

[cdawall]

The Core Architecture was built from scratch using the "Table Based Data Speculation Circuit for Parallel Processing Computer." method by WARF (Currently, unlicensed, so idk how Intel is doing it....).

umm wrong

The Intel Core microarchitecture (previously known as the Intel Next-Generation Micro-Architecture, or NGMA) is a multi-core processor microarchitecture unveiled by Intel in Q1 2006. It is based around an updated version of the Yonah core and could be considered the latest iteration of the Intel P6 microarchitecture, which traces its history back to the 1995 Pentium Pro. The extreme power consumption of NetBurst-based processors and the resulting inability to effectively increase clock speed was the primary reason Intel abandoned the NetBurst architecture. The Intel Core Microarchitecture was designed by the Intel Israel (IDC) team that previously designed the Pentium M mobile processor.

source=wikipedia

 

[3870x2]

i think he means that the architecture is similar, even taken from the "blueprints" of the PIII, hes right, they are very similar, but in no way comparable in power.

 

[farlex85]

the entire core architecture is based off P3. core 2 is revised core which is revised P3

Ok......Well I know they didn't use netburst and I'm assuming core 2 wasn't conjured out of thin air so yeah that sounds about right. Still whole different beasts though.

 

[Flyordie]

umm wrong





source=wikipedia

Then why can't Intel prove that to the Patent Office? They have filed a patent request and it was DENIED by the Patent Office.

 

[cdawall]

Then why can't Intel prove that to the Patent Office? They have filed a patent request and it was DENIED by the Patent Office.

honestly dont know or care its been pretty common knowledge that core2 was a new P3 maybe they changed one to many things for the patent office or one to few.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

My Pentium 3 Is already a monster, so why not feed it

sorry, but if anything is sig quotable, that is

 

[Flyordie]

honestly dont know or care its been pretty common knowledge that core2 was a new P3 maybe they changed one to many things for the patent office or one to few.

It was a conflict with another patent, which was brought to Intel for licensing, but rejected.
That patent-
United States Patent No. 5,781,752. ;-)
It was just a simple request for $8/CPU sold based on the technology... (if Intel loses lawsuit... = $20-25/CPU Sold in damages, at least thats whats requested)...

 

[cdawall]

It was a conflict with another patent, which was brought to Intel for licensing, but rejected.
That patent-
United States Patent No. 5,781,752. ;-)
It was just a simple request for $8/CPU sold based on the technology... (if Intel loses lawsuit... = $20-25/CPU Sold in damages, at least thats whats requested)...

so its another frivolous lawsuit brought against intel pertaining to a patent that was rejected for no reason?

 

[Flyordie]

so its another frivolous lawsuit brought against intel pertaining to a patent that was rejected for no reason?

No, Intel filed for the patent in 2005. The Patent on the books has been around since 1998 I think... the patent holder approached Intel in 2001 about the technology and Intel rejected it.

 

[RadeonProVega]

But I wouldn't even call your computer low end. Its about 5x worse then low end by todays standards.

Sorry for this, but i love proving people wrong, i really don't even consider my computer low end and here is why:

SOF 3 , 1280x1024. I have to play the game at 1280x1024, because anything lower and its ugly looking , not to mention the performance decreases.

My computer is low end, but i get 15-17fps just walking around in this game, yea yea it drops to 8 at times, but speeds back up. In the second level which i am just playing in, it never dips below 13, and stays above and sometimes hits 20. But my computer is what?
I played SOF3 for 2 hours, and my temps on my card stayed at 37c.
I will do some benchmarks and videos later and post them in the screenshot thread.

Thats all i am going to say, carry on people.

 

[cdawall]

how about at that res and as high as the settings go i dont drop below 40FPS?

 

[Error 404]

Run crysis.

 

[oli_ramsay]

How many fps do you get in minesweeper?

 

[Thermopylae_480]

I think he has enough info to buy a PIII by now.

You may not like his preference, but really it is no more silly to most other people than some of you dropping a $1000 to put 2 graphics cards in your computer just so you can see an increase in a synthetic benchmark. Ooooh, look at me I spent $2000 on custom water cooling, now I can calculate 1M Pi iterations in 10 seconds while you can only do it in 12 seconds with your crappy air cooling.

We can all be rude and make others feel like crap. The true challenge is when you can tolerate others for their views, even if they seem obtuse to you.

So how about we not be rude and show people TPU! is a place anyone can come for help regardless of their hardware preferences.